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The ZA and pets [warning]

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This topic could get very dark for some regarding our pets during an actual Zombie Apocalypse. I advise some not to read it.

The non dark part:
I wanted to start off with the fact that a huge majority of humanity has some kind of pet. Dog, Cat, hamster, fish. Whatever it may be. Now, I'm not going to focus on the lesser pets such as hamsters or fish or what can be considered the less noise producing pets.

Instead, this is going to focus on the louder pets such as dogs, cats.

From what is known, when it comes down to a ZA one of the survival aspects is to draw as little attention to yourself as possible. Which means you should not make noise as we all know that Zombies will follow a noise for miles out of instinct. (note the horde following the train in ep4)

With that in mind I have no doubt that a lot of the louder pets, mainly dogs and cats would attract a LOT of attention!

Cats:
While cats can run they can't defend themselves. They can try by hissing, or scratching or biting.. But that wouldn't deter a hungry Zombie so the cat just became dinner. In a family atmosphere they can be relatively quiet they still will be a drain on resources over time. Like many animals it doesn't take long for a house cat to become a feral cat when they are pushed into it. Some cats do like to meow or cry now and then so those types are dangerous to have around in the ZA.

Dogs:
These animals are the louder yet more protective of the two. Dogs in a protective mode against a human can overcome most and get away or hurt their attacker enough to deter them. Unfortunately a Zombie does not have the same fight or flight triggers as a normal human being. So while the dog may attack it will be putting itself in danger to being killed and eaten since the dog can't do enough damage to a Zombie to deter it from it's meal. In my opinion, dogs are the first species to be killed off.

So here we are in the Dark part:
You have a dog or a cat that make a lot of noise. It could easily encourage a Zombie horde to you and your family by barking or chasing after them and then running back to the home leading them to your family.

What is done with the pets we love? Do you kill them off in the beginning if they get loud or do you just let them bark and give away your position. Granted a lot of pets can be trained to not bark or make noise but a good portion of them are not so well trained.

I have to admit that I have a very loud dog. She just doesn't listen when she is told to be quiet. A person can walk down the street and she is barking at them. She barks at everything even if there is nothing to bark at. I have to admit here and now and say that my beloved pet would have to be killed in order to protect my family for either to prevent them from attracting Zombies to my home or to provide as an emergency food source for my family.

So there en-lies the question. What do you do with your loud pets? Do you kill them off, do you spare them, do you eat them, what do you do when your family is in danger due to the pet simply giving away your position?

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  • There are plenty of dogs that are quiet and only bark out of necessity, such as Bull Mastiffs. The problem with larger dogs is having the extra mouth to feed. Large breeds like German Sheppards, Rottweillers, or Pit Bulls can easily take out a single zombie. The problem is that close proximity attacks make them prone to being bitten/infected.

    My vote would be to keep a large quiet breed of dog, even if it means taking a friendly neighbor's dog. In the beginning of the ZA, food and water will be plentiful, so feeding is less problematic. The protection and companionship more than outweighs any downsides.

  • I'm kind of surprised at the reaction to killing your pet to survive. As hard as it may be a pet is not a human being, and despite however attached I would be to him or her I would kill them if it was the only way to survive.

    To me killing an animal, pet or not, is different than a human -- hunters kill animals all the time and as one I have to keep to the mindset that animals are not people. Even if my family would hate me for doing what needed to be done, at least I would know I did the right thing to keep them alive.

    EDIT: Doing that to my dog would break my heart, and if I was on my own or in a group of four or less I would keep him alive despite whatever issues it would bring on.

  • I would kills my pet the neighbors pet and any other non human that I lay my eyes upon.

    to hell with PETA and humane society. In the hierarchy humans are on top and all others must bend to our needs and will.

  • I had honestly thought of this two weeks ago and was asking a buddy of mine who is into zombie stuff. I sounded rash at first, but if I was forced to go on the run, I would put my cat down. I have three pets, a small dog and two cats. None can fight, none are easily trained to help out, and they would become a burden that I cannot reasonably control. If I need to go forage for food, where do I put my cat, on a leash by the door? Do I leave her in a house I'm spotting? That's assuming I can even find a house to stay at.

    I couldn't set my pet free, they are house animals, no front claws, incapable of killing a lot of things and I would never want a zombie to grab them and rip them to shreds. It's just an extremely difficult burden, and I don't want to force them into a cold world where they slowly starve to death...

    The proper big dog might be workable however, or if you're able to quickly find a safety zone that is capable of harboring animals (but we all know how often that works out...)

  • @Noble said: I'm kind of surprised at the reaction to killing your pet to survive. As hard as it may be a pet is not a human being, and despite however attached I would be to him or her I would kill them if it was the only way to survive.

    To me killing an animal, pet or not, is different than a human -- hunters kill animals all the time and as one I have to keep to the mindset that animals are not people. Even if my family would hate me for doing what needed to be done, at least I would know I did the right thing to keep them alive.

    EDIT: Doing that to my dog would break my heart, and if I was on my own or in a group of four or less I would keep him alive despite whatever issues it would bring on.


    Why should pets be treated any differently to humans? It's a bit disgraceful that anybody would think a dogs life isn't worth as much as a human being's.
    Tbh I am shocked that so many people would slaughter their own pet.

  • @bdawgnit1785 said: If you have kids killing and eating your family pet isn't good for your (or kids) mental health. I would do it if we were starved but then eating the fucking dog will only help for about a day with food then what??? kids next? I mean I know it's a dog and not a person but I AM A PERSON and eating your dog IS just as bad as eating some survivor thats a stranger. Tell the military you killed and ate your dog...they will proly put you down with the walkers cuz it's not ok....NOT! whatever I'm dumb and would proly die but at least I would still have my humanity....jesus.

    This is my last post on these forums. what the fuck. Not having fun talking about killing my dog...gave me fucking nightmares. Hope you all enjoy the 5th episode and have a happy thanksgiving. Peace out;)

    OK first off, provide proof of your first sentence. That's a statement that absolutely requires evidence to back it up. Provide peer reviewed studies, show that you're not just being reactionary and talking out of your arse.

    Also really nice to know that you consider your fellow Humans as little more than dogs. Great showing of that "Humanity" you mentioned.

    @bdawgnit1785 said: There is a big difference here. A dog is a household pet...part of the family. You can't compare it to a farm. I can't believe that anybody would consider killing and eating their dog.. that's sick. Zombie apocalypse or not, if you have a loud dog, then buy a muzzle or something.

    When I was eight my step dad brought home two calves. Over the next twelve months I fed them, I talked to them, I played with them, I got into trouble with them. I remember after we weened them off their bottles the way each one would drink from their buckets, one did it fine but the other would always practically drown himself in the milk, head all the way in until he'd drunk it all. They were more pets to me than the two pups we had at that time. After those twelve months my step dad slit their throats, gutted them, skinned them and hung their carcasses up right next to my swings behind the chicken shed.

    I thought I'd put this out there so others can see where I'm coming from. Growing up on a farm that's just one of many animal deaths I witnessed. I learnt to get over the initial shock horror and knee jerk reaction that people here are displaying, as a child.

    Don't mistake my ability to put my dogs down to anything less than necessity. A little over five years ago I watched my pet dog, one that I got soon after the two pups I mentioned (they drowned in a sewage pit BTW) get very sick. She was 17 so it was getting to the time where quality of life starts going down hill. I was in tears when I took her to the vet to get put down, but we'd already had her checked up and the vet told us it was that or watch her slowly die. As much as it hurt to see her eyes close that last time I couldn't bare the thought of putting her through all that pain and suffering just so I could selfishly have some more time with her.


    Now, given the choice between killing a loud dog or letting it go I'd kill it. I want those of you who have outright condemned that decision to stay up there on your moral high horses for this next bit. Consider this, your dog is more than likely domesticated. You let the dog go and you've justified your highly moral actions and are still living in a happy-go-lucky zombie apocalypse. You kept your warm moral feelings so that dog could then run out, suffer and starve before it's unable to run from a group of zombies and spends the last ten or so minutes of life yelping and whimpering in pure incomprehensible agony as they angrily tear it limb from limb and eat it alive. Would that thought wake you in the night, or would your morals be happy with "out of sight, out of mind"?

    I don't know about you, but this "sick, disgraceful, inhuman, thoughtless bastard" as you "moral" people all labelled me, couldn't sleep with the mere thought of that happening to them.

  • This is a really good post... The choices is 50% 50% ... I really wouldn't know what to do...

  • @cormoran said:

    When I was eight my step dad brought home two calves. Over the next twelve months I fed them, I talked to them, I played with them, I got into trouble with them. I remember after we weened them off their bottles the way each one would drink from their buckets, one did it fine but the other would always practically drown himself in the milk, head all the way in until he'd drunk it all. They were more pets to me than the two pups we had at that time. After those twelve months my step dad slit their throats, gutted them, skinned them and hung their carcasses up right next to my swings behind the chicken shed.

    I thought I'd put this out there so others can see where I'm coming from. Growing up on a farm that's just one of many animal deaths I witnessed. I learnt to get over the initial shock horror and knee jerk reaction that people here are displaying, as a child.

    Don't mistake my ability to put my dogs down to anything less than necessity. A little over five years ago I watched my pet dog, one that I got soon after the two pups I mentioned (they drowned in a sewage pit BTW) get very sick. She was 17 so it was getting to the time where quality of life starts going down hill. I was in tears when I took her to the vet to get put down, but we'd already had her checked up and the vet told us it was that or watch her slowly die. As much as it hurt to see her eyes close that last time I couldn't bare the thought of putting her through all that pain and suffering just so I could selfishly have some more time with her.


    Now, given the choice between killing a loud dog or letting it go I'd kill it. I want those of you who have outright condemned that decision to stay up there on your moral high horses for this next bit. Consider this, your dog is more than likely domesticated. You let the dog go and you've justified your highly moral actions and are still living in a happy-go-lucky zombie apocalypse. You kept your warm moral feelings so that dog could then run out, suffer and starve before it's unable to run from a group of zombies and spends the last ten or so minutes of life yelping and whimpering in pure incomprehensible agony as they angrily tear it limb from limb and eat it alive. Would that thought wake you in the night, or would your morals be happy with "out of sight, out of mind"?

    I don't know about you, but this "sick, disgraceful, inhuman, thoughtless bastard" as you "moral" people all labelled me, couldn't sleep with the mere thought of that happening to them.


    Okay you make a good point. Maybe it was wrong to imply that farm animals are different to a dog/cat. Companionship is the big deal here, and I know that if I was faced with a decision, I couldn't bring myself to kill my pet. It was hard enough to lose my dog last year (was 15 btw). I know how upsetting it is lose someone you care about.
    Although I couldn't even comprehend having to kill a healthy dog for the sake of survival. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. In my eyes, killing a dog is the same as killing a member of your family. I understand your reasons for wanting to kill it, but there must be another way surely. I couldn't live with myself if I had to take the life of my own dog.

  • My point wasn't that killing the dog was bad but if you read the original poster it then goes on to say eating the meat. If my dog was a danger then some poison and a burial. My disgust wasn't that people would kill their dog but at the start of ZA if you still got gas/electricity and such and you decide to kill cook and eat your dog then you aren't human. I mean zombies eat people not food, go to a store before you resort to killing things in home for food.

    This is my 2yr old labrador who is my 7yr olds first dog, we got him at 9 weeks old and his name Christian(but if you look at the pic you will see his true identity:p)[ATTACH]3514[/ATTACH]

    Wasn't trying to be so harsh but turning cannibal to survive zombies is hardly surviving at all IMO

    Sorry if I offended anyone but I took offense to people eating their pups;)

  • i got 2 blind poodles that cant do shit but bark at ppl.
    NOT dying for them

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