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  • I was starting to see the beginnings of the Civil War mentality in Avengers by the end. I mean, we had all those interviews with people wanting to know who these mysterious people were and saying that they didn't feel safe and stuff. I don't even see it as a problem that we haven't introduced a lot of minor vigilante heroes so far. All it takes is a few scenes with some cameos of lesser known heroes beating up people who may or may not deserve to be beaten up to set the tone. It could be spread across a few of the bigger movies.

    Though I wouldn't really want Civil War as it was portrayed in the comics. It was kinda heavy handed. There's a different dynamic in the movies, of course so it could work.

  • @Alcoremortis said: I was starting to see the beginnings of the Civil War mentality in Avengers by the end. I mean, we had all those interviews with people wanting to know who these mysterious people were and saying that they didn't feel safe and stuff. I don't even see it as a problem that we haven't introduced a lot of minor vigilante heroes so far. All it takes is a few scenes with some cameos of lesser known heroes beating up people who may or may not deserve to be beaten up to set the tone. It could be spread across a few of the bigger movies.

    True. And I agree that it would be great if they themed the lead-up films of Phase 3 around it, showing how each hero copes with the problem before the big Civil War smack down. I do think the roster needs to be increased at least a little bit, though, otherwise it's, what, 3 on 3?

    I also think that Cap and Tony should switch roles in the films. I know in the comics they didn't want them to pick the expected side of the conflict but I wouldn't buy the film version of Cap going renegade and the film version of Tony siding with the government. I barely bought it from the books. ...ok, maybe I'd buy it from Cap - registration can't sit well with a guy who fought Nazis - but definitely not Tony.

  • @BlankCanvasDJ said: True. And I agree that it would be great if they themed the lead-up films of Phase 3 around it, showing how each hero copes with the problem before the big Civil War smack down. I do think the roster needs to be increased at least a little bit, though, otherwise it's, what, 3 on 3?

    I also think that Cap and Tony should switch roles in the films. I know in the comics they didn't want them to pick the expected side of the conflict but I wouldn't buy the film version of Cap going renegade and the film version of Tony siding with the government. I barely bought it from the books. ...ok, maybe I'd buy it from Cap - registration can't sit well with a guy who fought Nazis - but definitely not Tony.

    Actually, Tony siding with the government isn't a huge leap in logic. I mean, he's a contractor for them (kinda) and everyone already knows that he's Iron Man, so he doesn't have anything to lose. He only needs an extra push, such as something disastrous happening due to unregistered superheroes, and he'd be signing up.

    Meanwhile, we've already established that Cap's faith in authority is shaken in Avengers and it will probably be destabilized even more in his solo movie. Depending on how they proceed with that, we might have more reason to accept that he would be a firm believer in the idea that superheroes can't work properly if people know who they are. Widow and Hawkeye would probably also not want their identities revealed... but then again, they might not be required to register, what with having no superpowers.

    As for the others, I honestly don't think they'd care. I can't remember whether or not Thor had any opinion whatsoever and I'm pretty sure that Banner didn't even know it was going on until after it was over. But if we added Spiderman and Ant-Man, who have movies, and maybe a few X-Men and some minor heroes, I think it would work out fairly well.

  • @Alcoremortis said: Actually, Tony siding with the government isn't a huge leap in logic. I mean, he's a contractor for them (kinda) and everyone already knows that he's Iron Man, so he doesn't have anything to lose. He only needs an extra push, such as something disastrous happening due to unregistered superheroes, and he'd be signing up.

    Meanwhile, we've already established that Cap's faith in authority is shaken in Avengers and it will probably be destabilized even more in his solo movie. Depending on how they proceed with that, we might have more reason to accept that he would be a firm believer in the idea that superheroes can't work properly if people know who they are. Widow and Hawkeye would probably also not want their identities revealed... but then again, they might not be required to register, what with having no superpowers.

    As for the others, I honestly don't think they'd care. I can't remember whether or not Thor had any opinion whatsoever and I'm pretty sure that Banner didn't even know it was going on until after it was over. But if we added Spiderman and Ant-Man, who have movies, and maybe a few X-Men and some minor heroes, I think it would work out fairly well.

    I think Thor was dead during Civil War. Or as dead as Marvel superheroes ever get, at least. Sadly Spidey and the X-Men are still owned by other studios so I don't think we'd ever see a crossover with them. They need to hurry up and make that Ant Man movie though.

    It would definitely take a few movies worth of set up, and I think the seeds were planted in The Avengers. I think it'd be a good epic capper to Phase 3.

  • @BlankCanvasDJ said: I think Thor was dead during Civil War. Or as dead as Marvel superheroes ever get, at least. Sadly Spidey and the X-Men are still owned by other studios so I don't think we'd ever see a crossover with them. They need to hurry up and make that Ant Man movie though.

    It would definitely take a few movies worth of set up, and I think the seeds were planted in The Avengers. I think it'd be a good epic capper to Phase 3.

    Well, we'll have to see what direction the next few solo films take us in as well as where the TV show goes. I also wouldn't mind a completely new storyline that's completely separate from established Marvel ones.

    For instance, I always liked A.I.M. as a villainous organization (though M.O.D.O.K has always been ridiculous) and I think if they were handled correctly, they could perhaps be one of the most terrifying opponents. I mean, a coalition of incredibly smart evil people. They could cause far more havoc than they ever did in the comics.

  • Last weekend got to see the special features of The Avengers, and if the Marvel One-Shot Item 47 is any indication of the S.H.I.E.L.D. series, then count me in.

  • @GaryCXJk said: Last weekend got to see the special features of The Avengers, and if the Marvel One-Shot Item 47 is any indication of the S.H.I.E.L.D. series, then count me in.

    I just saw the one-shots from the end of Thor and Captain America. They were pretty awesome as well.

    The Captain America one involved Coulson defeating two armed gunmen with a bag of flour. I'm not even joking.

  • If the title of the thread didn't clue you in, Agent Coulson is awesome.

  • I'm kinda surprised that none of the cast from Item 47 will be in the TV show (at least I haven't seen any of them announced). That short really seemed like it was a set up for a show.

  • So, uh, here's your awesome news of the day.

    You know that new X-Men movie they're making? Days of Future Past? Yeah, it's not just got the guys from First Class, but acording to Brian Singer, Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart are on-board as well.

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