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The ZA and pets [warning]

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This topic could get very dark for some regarding our pets during an actual Zombie Apocalypse. I advise some not to read it.

The non dark part:
I wanted to start off with the fact that a huge majority of humanity has some kind of pet. Dog, Cat, hamster, fish. Whatever it may be. Now, I'm not going to focus on the lesser pets such as hamsters or fish or what can be considered the less noise producing pets.

Instead, this is going to focus on the louder pets such as dogs, cats.

From what is known, when it comes down to a ZA one of the survival aspects is to draw as little attention to yourself as possible. Which means you should not make noise as we all know that Zombies will follow a noise for miles out of instinct. (note the horde following the train in ep4)

With that in mind I have no doubt that a lot of the louder pets, mainly dogs and cats would attract a LOT of attention!

Cats:
While cats can run they can't defend themselves. They can try by hissing, or scratching or biting.. But that wouldn't deter a hungry Zombie so the cat just became dinner. In a family atmosphere they can be relatively quiet they still will be a drain on resources over time. Like many animals it doesn't take long for a house cat to become a feral cat when they are pushed into it. Some cats do like to meow or cry now and then so those types are dangerous to have around in the ZA.

Dogs:
These animals are the louder yet more protective of the two. Dogs in a protective mode against a human can overcome most and get away or hurt their attacker enough to deter them. Unfortunately a Zombie does not have the same fight or flight triggers as a normal human being. So while the dog may attack it will be putting itself in danger to being killed and eaten since the dog can't do enough damage to a Zombie to deter it from it's meal. In my opinion, dogs are the first species to be killed off.

So here we are in the Dark part:
You have a dog or a cat that make a lot of noise. It could easily encourage a Zombie horde to you and your family by barking or chasing after them and then running back to the home leading them to your family.

What is done with the pets we love? Do you kill them off in the beginning if they get loud or do you just let them bark and give away your position. Granted a lot of pets can be trained to not bark or make noise but a good portion of them are not so well trained.

I have to admit that I have a very loud dog. She just doesn't listen when she is told to be quiet. A person can walk down the street and she is barking at them. She barks at everything even if there is nothing to bark at. I have to admit here and now and say that my beloved pet would have to be killed in order to protect my family for either to prevent them from attracting Zombies to my home or to provide as an emergency food source for my family.

So there en-lies the question. What do you do with your loud pets? Do you kill them off, do you spare them, do you eat them, what do you do when your family is in danger due to the pet simply giving away your position?

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  • @Orbifold said: Let's say you are inside a burning building, and you notice a human baby in one corner, and a box containing who puppies in another. Your time is running out and you have to choose whether to grab the baby or the dogs.

    Which one do you go for?

    Baby of course, and I wouldn't kill my own pets even if they do make a racket :(

  • lol talk about random subjects...first we need to point out why we domesticated wolves in the first place. they are pack animals like we are with a better sense of smell. not to mention those little hunting runs will be easier...

    or would it preferable for a zombie or human to sneak up on you?

    so the question is. would you gut a baby because it was crying? its not useful, it puts the group in danger, it eats all your supplies...more reason to kill that than the dog. least the dog gives you warning of danger...be at least 10 years before the baby is of use to the group

  • I've been sort of writing a ZA survivor story (ha) and I wrote in my 16 pound mutt, Tara. She was a rescue (and we don't know who had her before), but, we haven't heard her bark in the three years since we've had her. She growls. But rarely. I guess if maybe she was stressed enough she would bark. But I don't think I would ever put down my dog unless she was suffering. D:
    I think she'd be a perfect ZA partner (if she didn't bark?) (hence I wrote her in as a pretty nifty sidekick). And she's in shape and listens to commands well. She can run with me without a leash and still stay close.
    As to draining supplies...one ziploc baggie (sandwich sized, filled) would feed her once a day for probably two weeks. She could possibly have scraps too?
    Eh, just ball parking the food situation.

  • Okay, I have to weigh in and I hope I'm not "Necro'ing" an old thread:

    Keeping a barking/meowing/hissing pet during a Zombie Apocalypse is like covering yourselves in bells and doing the chicken-dance at town hall's courtyard.

    You couldn't ring a louder dinner bell, and it's a two-course meal at least for the zombies!

    People keep mentioning getting muzzles for their animals during the Zombie Apocalypse but...finding a muzzle probably isn't the highest of my priorities...just sayin'.

    You know what I can find? Toilet paper. I'd eat my own dog and I look forward to eating all of yours when you get yourself made into human Happy Meals!

    I will grow fat on the flesh of your beasts!

  • [quote]These animals are the louder yet more protective of the two. Dogs in a protective mode against a human can overcome most and get away or hurt their attacker enough to deter them. Unfortunately a Zombie does not have the same fight or flight triggers as a normal human being. So while the dog may attack it will be putting itself in danger to being killed and eaten since the dog can't do enough damage to a Zombie to deter it from it's meal. In my opinion, dogs are the first species to be killed off.[/quote]

    I feel like this is a bit of an ignorant statement. Dogs can be trained quite well to do pretty much anything, so your sweeping generalization is really wrong. It's also under my impression that animals can't be turned in the walking dead universe because the z-virus is human specific.

    Also, even a relatively untrained dog can outrun some of the fastest human runners - so a trained dog could even be used to 'cull' a zombie herd to specific positions and then run back. If you had a pack of dogs you could use one to distract and train the others to attack the ones that fall behind. I think honestly though, they'd probably be better used as distractions.

    Dogs also can hear tones that the human ear cannot, so a dog whistle could be used to coordinate over short distances.

    Most domesticated dogs aren't trained for survival situations though, so yes - many probably would die off.

  • @Orbifold said: Let's say you are inside a burning building, and you notice a human baby in one corner, and a box containing who puppies in another. Your time is running out and you have to choose whether to grab the baby or the dogs.

    Which one do you go for?

    The box of puppies.

    Being human isn't a license for superiority. In fact it is the human idea that they are somehow more important than other life forms that is the reason our planet is so screwed now.

    What good does the average human do? 99% of humans are already zombies and would lie cheat and steal from you just to advance their own materialistic greed.

    Look at these animals:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOm8giTUOXs

    This is over cheap chinese slave goods. Imagine what they would do if SHTF.

    Box of puppies everytime. Box of puppies.

  • For the whole argument of releasing a problem animal during some ZA as opposed to killing it oneself, you have to put your own sanity on the table for consideration.

    It wouldn't be openly wrong to let your pet be out of sight out of mind if it means you'll be in the right mind to think about your own survival. I know if I had to put a bullet in my perfectly fine pet, I'd have a hard time dealing with the demons trying to kill me due to my weakened mental state. By having an unsure fate, one can at least reason that the pet could very well be alive, and therefore have a fact to take comfort in, allowing a much more focused and able survivor as opposed to one that is a sobbing train-wreck.

  • @Moonbaby said: The box of puppies.

    Being human isn't a license for superiority. In fact it is the human idea that they are somehow more important than other life forms that is the reason our planet is so screwed now.

    What good does the average human do? 99% of humans are already zombies and would lie cheat and steal from you just to advance their own materialistic greed.

    Look at these animals:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOm8giTUOXs

    This is over cheap chinese slave goods. Imagine what they would do if SHTF.

    Box of puppies everytime. Box of puppies.

    Humans developed penicillin, landed on the moon, invented every device you use through your day, and generally can eat any other creature on the planet.

    When your box of puppies cures cancer, then your argument will be valid.

    Until then, I'm not "pretty" sure I'm superior to animals, I know I am.

    ...man, when the ZA hits, there's going to be a LOT of hippie zombies...

    Edit: Oh, and fact: if you were to die in a contained space, your cat would start eating you within twelve hours. Fact.

    Beat the cat to the punch...

  • I'm just wondering, because I haven't read the comics, do other animals turn into zombies as well? I don't think I've seen any in the game.

  • Well would you do the same for a baby if it was crying? It is a tough choice to make.

    As far as we know (going by TWD zombies) only humans are effected by the virus that causes zombification after death. The animals are immune to the bites and quite a lot of dogs should be able to escape a human or two if they need to with the cost of getting a few injuries. Some dogs are intellegent enough to know when it's time to fight or run and I think you could probably teach a dog or it will learn on it's own that barking or growling at the dead humans has no effect and will only cause more danger so will avoid doing so and most likely stay quiet if it's owner or whoever it's protecting is staying quiet.

    I think it's possible you'd be able to have a dog with you in a ZA depending on it's breed, Chihauhuas would most likely not be all that much use even if it's trained to be quiet but a larger protective dog like a Retriever, Doberman, German Shepard or Rotweiller would not only have a more fighting chance and better odds of escaping but if it's got a close enough bond to it's group it would do just about anything to help by protecting young children or being able to alert it's owners of danger due to being able to smell or hear the dead much earlier than we'd be able to.

    I am Legend is probably the closest thing we'd see to as an example to how helpful a dog would be in a ZA, I know the creatures in I am Legend were not exactly zombies but you have the remember that the main character managed to survive in a world with (FAST) zombie like creatures for 3 years by himself with only his dog companion until sadly the diseases that caused humans to be effected started crossing the species barrier and effected his dog. So long as the animals are still immune and were smart enough to know how to survive for the sake of your group and not to make noise then theyed be useful but if I found out a new strain started to effect animals then I'd treat it like I would any human who was bitten and just end it's suffering before it turns.

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