User Avatar Image

Is this racist?

posted by Doctanian on - last edited - Viewed by 2.1K users

Is it racist to wish that the season 2 protagonist will be another minority?

I mean, with Lee, the game broke so many unfortunate traditions in gaming. And with the Walking Dead in general. After that travesty that was T-Dog's character, I was glad to have Lee. But now that he's gone, I fear TellTale will go the typical cut and paste brown-haired white male route.

I know it shouldn't matter, but on a certain level, it does. Especially when it comes to video games and the representation of diversity. I mean, majority of video game protagonists look like this:

video-game-protagonists-kids-love-brown-

We have enough Nathan Drakes. Your thoughts?

118 Comments - Linear Discussion: Classic Style
  • @8Bit_System said: A mother figure? Good Lord, please don't listen to the misleaded DreadMagus. I'd make a terrible mother, 'twas hard enough being a "father". :D

    Oh come on, you can do it. :p

    :D

  • @Eric Northman said: Travesty??? I loved T-Dog. I don't know what you mean when you call his character a travesty. T-Dog didn't get to develop as much as some on the show, but I still thought he was a great character.

    I love me some T-Dog, but that was my problem: No character development. Characters introduced in seasons 2 and 3 got more development than him, and he was on the show since season 1. When characters talked the camera went to him... looking at another character speak.

    That's why I called it a travesty, lol.

  • @DreadMagus said: In defense of Frank West on that picture.... I think Capcom's devs think all NA males look that like.

    He's covered wars, you know.

  • @plaqueconspiracy said: Don't forget that "white" and "black" isn't just skin color every time. What I think OP said is about culture too.

    @plaqueconspiracy said: Shepard is white in all the promotional materials, even as a female. Niko does have a extremely different culture, but he's still white and therefore still appeals to the most common demographic.

    Oh really? ;)

  • @Doctanian said: He's covered wars, you know.

    rofl. :D true true

  • @MsLox said: Oh really? ;)

    Lol at you cherrypicking. Niko is still a white character, absorbed in American culture, so he appeals to the American white male demographic.

  • @JabbaDaHuttX7 said: Absorbed in American culture? He starts the game fresh off the boat... literally.

    This. OP, what you call "cherrypicking" is actually using real facts and quotes instead of randomly spouting some 'pity me' arguments.

  • @DreadMagus said: Oh come on, you can do it. :p

    :D


    I'll give my best... so now, where was this dress and the curlers I kept hiding in the closet for so long?

    @DreadMagus said: Same here. Wow, some of you guys would hate the BioWare forums. All those guys talk about is minority representation.

    I do think race and ethnicity are important when creating a character and their meaning shouldn't be immediately discared. (For example, I like TT's choice of making Lee black, even if I wouldn't have hated the idea of playing as a different race.)


    I'd hate to be forced to play as a dog, or a donkey, but why should I have a problem "being" an Asian (or whatever race) if it fits the story?

  • Race/culture are important, but shouldn't be chosen just to choose them.

    Take Prototype - they had a white lead in the first game and a black lead in the second. When asked "why did you choose a black male for a main character." they replied "We didn't, we chose James Heller." (i.e. one character they had crafted from a pool of potential lead characters - he was just the best one they had crafted)

  • @JabbaDaHuttX7 said: Absorbed in American culture? He starts the game fresh off the boat... literally.

    I know, but other than emails, a few missions revolving around the his past, and the occasional Serbian phrase, Niko doesn't expel much of his culture, instead the player adopts the American culture in Liberty City. From the clothes, to the cars, women, TV, food, radio, nightlife, etc, etc. His Eastern European roots are tossed out the window for the most part. There's really no hard time transitioning, at least, none we see on camera.

    So, basically, even if Niko was an average American character coming to Liberty City from San Andreas, the experience would be pretty much the same.

This discussion has been closed.