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Story writer's big mistake about infection

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Ok, whoever is watching The Walking Dead series on season 5 knows that [ SPOILER ABOUT TV SHOW ] Hershel gets a big chomp out of his leg by a zombie ( yes, he bites it off with his big teeths ) inside the jail compound and after some time, Rick cuts it off like you can do it with Lee in the game when his arm gets bitten.


Now the big mistake the writers did and expected much of the players not to notice.

Hershel survives and do not turn. Lee survives but gets all the symptoms of turning, all the same that Duck had before turning as dying as well.

Well, Iam expecting good theories because I was really puzzled by this.

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  • I have a problem with the whole Hershel thing myself. The average 160 pound human will circulate blood about 2 times throughout the body every minute. That's once around in about 30 seconds. I have trouble believing an amputation would stop an infected bite wound from becomming fatal unless the body part was amputated almost simultaneous to the wound being given.

  • @oldgun said: I have a problem with the whole Hershel thing myself. The average 160 pound human will circulate blood about 2 times throughout the body every minute. That's once around in about 30 seconds. I have trouble believing an amputation would stop an infected bite wound from becomming fatal unless the body part was amputated almost simultaneous to the wound being given.

    That info's not quite accurate, but close enough to work with. :p

    As to whether or not an infected bite would invade the entire body within 30 seconds...most likely no. There are multiple factors to take into account here, such as bite location, bite depth, how long the virus takes to replicate inside of the host, the rate and adaptation of blood perfusion to and from the skin and muscles, hell, even lymphatic flow and possible obstruction. Most of these factors would allow for more than 30 seconds for amputation before the cns or other vital organs are in serious danger (again, depending on the location of the bite), but probably less than, say 3 or 5 minutes.

    I'd post more about this, but it's 12:20AM and I need to make my 8:00 class tomorrow morning.

  • @Pyrofrost said: That info's not quite accurate, but close enough to work with. :p

    As to whether or not an infected bite would invade the entire body within 30 seconds...most likely no. There are multiple factors to take into account here, such as bite location, bite depth, how long the virus takes to replicate inside of the host, the rate and adaptation of blood perfusion to and from the skin and muscles, hell, even lymphatic flow and possible obstruction. Most of these factors would allow for more than 30 seconds for amputation before the cns or other vital organs are in serious danger (again, depending on the location of the bite), but probably less than, say 3 or 5 minutes.

    I'd post more about this, but it's 12:20AM and I need to make my 8:00 class tomorrow morning.

    This person knows what they are talking about. Are you studying medicine by any chance? I'm studying to be a paramedic.

  • @AsariTears said: This person knows what they are talking about. Are you studying medicine by any chance? I'm studying to be a paramedic.

    :D Yeah, slogging through my second year of med school lol

  • Nice, I'm in my first year. It's tough. Just had exams. They were tough.

  • @Pyrofrost said: That info's not quite accurate, but close enough to work with. :p

    As to whether or not an infected bite would invade the entire body within 30 seconds...most likely no. There are multiple factors to take into account here, such as bite location, bite depth, how long the virus takes to replicate inside of the host, the rate and adaptation of blood perfusion to and from the skin and muscles, hell, even lymphatic flow and possible obstruction. Most of these factors would allow for more than 30 seconds for amputation before the cns or other vital organs are in serious danger (again, depending on the location of the bite), but probably less than, say 3 or 5 minutes.

    I'd post more about this, but it's 12:20AM and I need to make my 8:00 class tomorrow morning.

    Interesting. Would not an increased heart rate only work against Hershel? I bet my heart would beat like crazy while a flesh eating ghoul was tearing away chunks of my flesh not to mention he was just running around killing zombies ;)

    Since it is all hypothetical with no baseline to the spread of the infection it could more come down to the infection rather than the circulation. But to give a baseline lets say the infection is analogous to botulism from an open wound which is carried throughout the body through the blood. If there was no treatment for botulism and amputation was the only way to save yourself, how long would you say you had to amputate before the nerve endings and/or lungs were in danger of being damaged due to spread of the disease?

  • Did you know your eyes act as sort of a drain into your bloodstream? Had a nurse friend of mine freak out once because a patient's blood got in her eye.

    That in mind it's a wonder everyone isn't dead by now, with all the hand to hand slashing going on.

  • @Anyday said: Did you know your eyes act as sort of a drain into your bloodstream? Had a nurse friend of mine freak out once because a patient's blood got in her eye.

    That in mind it's a wonder everyone isn't dead by now, with all the hand to hand slashing going on.

    Perhaps all the people with slow reflexes like your nurse friend who didn't blink in time are already gonners? :D

  • @Kitmit13 said: I think Lee ended up dying from blood loss. He gets yellow eyes if you cut it off but if you don't they are white? Also he faints less if you cut it off.


    He doesn't die from blood loss, he ends up the same way no matter what you do. You just don't die from blood loss unless you are bleeding like hell and lee had his arm bandaged up pretty soon.

  • Didn't even try to cut off his arm. It was pointless... plus I needed my both hands in order to strangle the Stranger :D
    I had accepted my Lee's fate and I wanted to stay determined on Clem, not wondering whether I would die or not.

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