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I don't get why Kenny is calling Vernon and his friends

posted by Joshua1991 on - last edited - Viewed by 929 users

Thieves or Bad Guys in the finale. I get it they stole Kenny's last hope he had, but Vernon and his friends are good people just trying to survive in a ZA. Christa was right, they would have done the same thing. Imo I find it karma for Kenny wanting to steal from the Campman's family car in Ep 2

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  • @Joshua1991 said: Thieves or Bad Guys in the finale. I get it they stole Kenny's last hope he had, but Vernon and his friends are good people just trying to survive in a ZA. Christa was right, they would have done the same thing. Imo I find it karma for Kenny wanting to steal from the Campman's family car in Ep 2

    I'm not supporting Kenny and I agree with karma thing.

    About your question, I think there is a major difference between both situations.
    All two of them are stealing.
    But the second one is something like your neighbour robbed your own house.
    I mean, they show Vernon their boat themselves, and they trust him to get away with this info.

    In the end, I'm in complete aggreement with Christa. This is ZA, and no one is clean enough (except LeeME :P).

  • The karma angle is pretty good. Kenny (and possibly Lee) stole food from Campman's station wagon in order to survive, which ended up screwing Campman and his family over. Then the exact same thing happens when Vernon's group steals the boat from Lee an co. I think they put that in there to make the player feel like Campman must have felt when he discovered the supplies were gone, and generate a little bit more empathy toward him once you finally encountered him. That said, I still hate Vernon. Without our group he wouldn't have gotten his precious medicine, although I didn't really care because Lee was dying and I figured "Let everyone deal with it after I'm dead".

  • Two different situations. We take food from an abandoned car with door open and no gas and no sign of the owner.

    And the other guy pretends to be a friend and gives you no heads up that the city is about to overrun with walkers. Then steals your boat.

  • The car appeared abandoned and Kenny made a mistake by stealing from the car even after Lilly, Clem and Lee told him no way.

    The boat gave no appearance of being abandoned except when WE found it. Vernon knew it belonged to us, that we planned to use the boat and had to kick Kenny's ass to take it by force.

    These are two different situations as trd84 pointed out. I still think it was out of character for Vernon and his cancer group to do such a thing and they fucked us. However, I also realize that we are the ones who brought a massive herd of walkers to their little paradise so maybe it's all even up...I don't know.

  • @Kiel555 said: The car appeared abandoned and Kenny made a mistake by stealing from the car even after Lilly, Clem and Lee told him no way.

    The boat gave no appearance of being abandoned except when WE found it. Vernon knew it belonged to us, that we planned to use the boat and had to kick Kenny's ass to take it by force.

    These are two different situations as trd84 pointed out. I still think it was out of character for Vernon and his cancer group to do such a thing and they fucked us. However, I also realize that we are the ones who brought a massive herd of walkers to their little paradise so maybe it's all even up...I don't know.

    Lilly took stuff too you know.

    The situations are different. I understand Campman wanted to find his kid so he was in a hurry, but come on! Door open, lights on. Too bad for him. Vernon knew you had it, dissed your plan for it and then took it. A dirtbag at work.

  • @Kiel555 said: The car appeared abandoned and Kenny made a mistake by stealing from the car even after Lilly, Clem and Lee told him no way.

    The boat gave no appearance of being abandoned except when WE found it. Vernon knew it belonged to us, that we planned to use the boat and had to kick Kenny's ass to take it by force.

    These are two different situations as trd84 pointed out. I still think it was out of character for Vernon and his cancer group to do such a thing and they fucked us. However, I also realize that we are the ones who brought a massive herd of walkers to their little paradise so maybe it's all even up...I don't know.

    I totally agree. I believed that the boat was stolen because no one in my group stayed behind (Ben = dead) but I was kind of shocked to find out that Vernon takes the boat in EVERY situation. Not only is it implausible, I do think it's wrong. Taking from that car was not wrong though - the lights were on, the door open, THE KEYS IN THE CAR! This isn't day 2 of the apocalypse either, it's three months in. The stranger KNEW there were other people around too and was very naive. Taking from a guarded boat is completely different.

  • Actually the boat is worse since Vernon helped "us" fix it so "we" could get away.

    That's not just theft it's betrayal.

  • When I found out the cancer survivors took the boat I was momentarily upset, then greatly amused.

    From what I saw in ep 4, their group is a lot larger than five people, even without Brie. Joke's on them.

    Besides, I never really had any faith in the boat plan.

  • @aperose said: I totally agree. I believed that the boat was stolen because no one in my group stayed behind (Ben = dead) but I was kind of shocked to find out that Vernon takes the boat in EVERY situation. Not only is it implausible, I do think it's wrong. Taking from that car was not wrong though - the lights were on, the door open, THE KEYS IN THE CAR! This isn't day 2 of the apocalypse either, it's three months in. The stranger KNEW there were other people around too and was very naive. Taking from a guarded boat is completely different.

    ^This. It's a ZA, everyone's focusing on surviving. If they see an unguarded van fill with food and supplies, of course they would automatically think that the owner didnt make it. So I think it was stupid of the stranger to leave it like that and just blame everything in our group.

  • @Iyrsiiea said: When I found out the cancer survivors took the boat I was momentarily upset, then greatly amused.

    From what I saw in ep 4, their group is a lot larger than five people, even without Brie. Joke's on them.

    Besides, I never really had any faith in the boat plan.

    Seeing as the boat holds probably 4 at most.... you do make an excellent point. ;)

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