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Why do people like Ben?

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I'm not saying you shouldn't like Ben. I just don't get it.

Personally, I think it's because he's so much of a woobie, people feel sorry for him no matter what. Yes, he's young and a teenager, but if Clementine and Carl can be productive, there's really no excuse. He's one of those characters that doesn't do anything right, pouts that he can't do anything right, and thus receives sympathy galore. Even if you support him, he still fucks up and fucks you over, so saying that people are too hard on him is bullshit. The only harsh criticism he got was when he told Kenny he dealt with the bandits and Kenny's response was reasonable.Before, then, he was a member of the team at the motor inn.

My problem? Has nothing to do with Carley, bandits, letting zombies in Crawford's school or his numerous other fuckups.

One main thing.

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[*]HE LEFT CLEMENTINE TO DIE. The same girl that would later defend him from being thrown off the boat.
[*]He doesn't watch her when you tell him to, instead he makes excuses. He should've brought her upstairs with him.
[*]He didn't even help you look for her when she's missing.
[*]When Lee gets bit, an option to bring him along is by making him feel guilty with Clementine. He had to be reminded that Clementine stood up for him.
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If anything, Clem should've reminded him of his sister he said he had in Episode 5.

Even Larry showed concern for Clementine. Larry even tries to save Lee if you give him the axe. Hell, the main fucking antagonist, Campman, showed more love for Clem than Ben. A fucking Hobo showed more love for Clem.

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  • Ben had an extremely depressing life when the apocalypse started. It isn't easy to have your whole group gone and been raided by bandits, joining up with another group only to have them completely hate you within a week, as well as dying miserably. The sad thing is, he never got to see his family. Ben was an alright guy.

  • I really liked Ben despite wanting him dead by the end of Episode Three for causing all that death. By Episode Four I genuinely felt his pain at wanting to die for all the times he's screwed up and despite it being entirely true, I couldn't just let him give up. I liked the arc of him and Kenny coming to terms before their deaths, and I'm glad I saved him. He's probably in my top five favorite characters of the series.

    But he also totally caused Kenny's death too... No denying that. And damned if his kill-streak isn't absolutely incredible. Not sure if anyone in the comics can measure up to that list-of-fail(win?):
    1. Travis
    2. Mr. Parker
    3. Carley
    4. Duck
    5. Katjaa
    6. Chuck
    7. Brie
    8. Kenny
    9. Ben

  • I can just imagine a deep voice screaming "GODLIKE" in the alley scene, right before Ben bites it. Although I disagree on him causing Kenny's death. Kenny chose to stay with Ben and try to save him. Sure he may ahve had to defend Ben because Ben fell, but he could just as easily have put a bullet in the kid's head and escaped with Lee.

  • @Rock114 said: I can just imagine a deep voice screaming "GODLIKE" in the alley scene, right before Ben bites it. Although I disagree on him causing Kenny's death. Kenny chose to stay with Ben and try to save him. Sure he may ahve had to defend Ben because Ben fell, but he could just as easily have put a bullet in the kid's head and escaped with Lee.

    True, but Ben is the reason Kenny felt it necessary to stay. :cool:

  • even when making friends ben (the lightning rod of bad luck) can some how indirectly cause a death.

  • @thestalkinghead said: even when making friends ben (the lightning rod of bad luck) can some how indirectly cause a death.

    tumblr_mdxwnxKtWD1rlsyx0o1_400.jpgBAD LUCK BEN

  • @darknessofheart said: Exactly and Ben was treated like a simple kid; that's why he was always seen as one. No one trusted him, put faith in him, nor trained him because everyone saw him as a burden to begin with. Clem was taught by Lee, developed relationships with him and the group, and was treated to be much more than just a girl.

    Age has nothing do with it unless that's how they were treated and that's the case with Ben; Chuck saw it the moment he met him. Had he received the proper training, was given missions to actually aid the group, and was encouraged, he would've been more than just a kid. Ben always tried to go on more dangerous missions, but he was always met with "No, you'll only slow us down."

    Ben wasn't treated like a kid. He was given pretty mature tasks, but because he botched them and was demoted to babysitting duty and he fucked that up. He was never treated like a kid, otherwise, Kenny, Lilly, and Lee wouldn't have wanted to kill him.

  • I like Ben because, like other people here, I relate to him. And I just feel people in the group haven't really treated him fairly. Most of them, at least.

    And something I don't really get is people comparing Ben to the kids. Ben isn't a kid, he's a teenager, and that's probably the worse thing to be on a zombie apocalypse. Kids seem to adapt very quickly to the situation and adults have enough life experience to try and deal with it. Teenagers don't have either of those. Generalizing, when you're a teenager, you've already gone through the part of your life where you don't really have any worries (being a kid) and you're at the point of your life where you're trying to find out who you are, what kind of person you are. And at that point, you don't really have enough experience to deal with extreme situations like an apocalypse, and you don't have the ability to adapt as easily as a kid, since you're already probably used to a lifestyle at that point... Meh, am I making sense here? :confused:

  • @reversingmemories said: I like Ben because Ben is like me. No matter how hard he tries, he always tends to mess up and everyone starts hating him for that. Which, is kind of like me ._.

    So if that's true, how can you identify with Lee, who's pure win?

  • This list shows the victims Ben has killed:

    Carley/Doug (Indirectly Caused)

    As a result of Lilly's paranoia of the supply theft that Ben was responsible for, Carley/Doug was shot dead alongside the road during a heated argument.

    Duck (Indirectly Caused)

    Ben's supply theft ultimately resulted in the raid that caused Duck to get bitten by a walker.

    Katjaa (Indirectly Caused)

    Ben's supply theft ultimately resulted in the raid that caused Duck to get bitten by a walker. Unable to cope with losing her son, Katjaa committed suicide right in front of Kenny and Duck.

    Charles (Indirectly Caused)

    As of a result of Ben's cowardice, Ben abandons Clementine, forcing Lee and Charles/Chuck to come to her rescue. Charles/Chuck is then separated from the group by walkers and his remains are later found by Lee in the sewers of Savannah.

    Molly (Possibly/Determinant/Indirectly Caused)

    After he removes the hatchet from the door handles and walkers overrun the building, Molly can get left behind if the walker she's fighting isn't shot by Lee or Clementine. While it's possible she can be devoured by walkers, her true fate is unknown.

    Kenny (Determinant/Indirectly Caused)

    After breaking through the wall in the attic of the mansion, the group proceed to jump across a small balcony over an alley, it breaks as Ben tries to jump across, and falls. When Kenny and Lee go see what happened, Ben says he's okay, but when removing objects on top of him, it is revealed the balcony arm impaled Ben in the stomach. When walkers see the three of them, Kenny pushes Lee away into a gate to protect him, telling Lee to find Clementine. As walkers start to attack, Kenny uses his last bullet to put Ben out of his misery, and then get himself eaten alive as Lee watches.

    At least two zombies (Determinant).

    Not me, the wikia.

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