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They added Ben into the TV Series?

posted by Joshua1991 on - last edited - Viewed by 600 users

I know this is a bit of a stretch and all, but in the mid-season 3 finale they have a new character named Ben. Is it supposed to be the Tall Tale's Ben?

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  • @Master of Aeons said: From my viewpoint, the only thing worth watching was the pilot. The rest is a heavy retooling of the original. If you're not a comic reader, watch the show. If you like the comic, avoid it. Or, you know. Just read the comic.

    You say that like a heavy retooling is a bad thing. It's the NECESSARY thing when adapting material to another medium. Watching the show will in no way lessen your comics reading experience, unless you have a preconceived and unwavering notion of what you think is the right and irrefutable way to do the series justice. Whether you enjoy the comic, hate it, or have never even heard of it, the show has something to offer any fan of GOOD television.

    As for not having AMC, I'm pretty sure they have many episodes available to watch online, on Netflix, etc. and DVD sets typically go for less than $25 each. It's incredibly easy to digest TWD across all media it's represented in.

  • @Master of Aeons said: From my viewpoint, the only thing worth watching was the pilot. The rest is a heavy retooling of the original. If you're not a comic reader, watch the show. If you like the comic, avoid it. Or, you know. Just read the comic.


    I read the comics and still enjoy the TV series. It's nice to watch the TV series because it doesn't follow the comic book series religiously, there would be no point in watching it if it did.

  • @CarScar said: I read the comics and still enjoy the TV series. It's nice to watch the TV series because it doesn't follow the comic book series religiously, there would be no point in watching it if it did.

    I applaud your common sense. It's kind of rare in this crowd.

  • Read the comics, Watch the show and play the game.

    Enjoy all of them.

    That illegal now or something :D?

  • @CarScar said: I read the comics and still enjoy the TV series. It's nice to watch the TV series because it doesn't follow the comic book series religiously, there would be no point in watching it if it did.

    Well, you have to admit, the current young adult generation might be used to comic adaptations more like how Japanese Mangas get translated into Anime. It is often not 1 on 1, but usually 90% of the original story is still in the series.

    So yeah, some people expect or want that from adaptations for TV. Personally, I like that the series is different then the comics. I havent read the comics yet, but it is pretty high on my 'to read' list at this time. And knowing it's different than the series is the main reason I still want to read them.

    To each their own really.

  • @moyermason92 said: You say that like a heavy retooling is a bad thing. It's the NECESSARY thing when adapting material to another medium.

    You don't know that, you've only accepted it as fact. The only thing a television series needs is a strong beginning and ending (episode). The arc (season) needs a big climax as well. That already exists in the comic, it's just a matter of expanding and condensing what already exists. Instead we have substitution everywhere and in most cases I think it goes against what I liked about the original series.

    I'd rather have straightforward reenactments of my favorite parts with filler and abridging, which I am used to seeing already in anime adaptation. Keeping Shane alive for another season was a good choice. The Tyreese alpha and beta models were bad choices. Changing Carl and Andrea's characters to give them an "arc" into competence was a bad idea. Killing Dale was a good move, but regrettably was only a reflex following Darabont's canning. Killing Sophia was a good move, but only done because she was getting taller. This adaptation doesn't look as well planned as the comic, which is a huge detriment. If you know where the source material goes, it should give you plenty of time to flesh out events, build things, put in new material to bring out later incidents.

  • @Master of Aeons said: You don't know that, you've only accepted it as fact. The only thing a television series needs is a strong beginning and ending (episode). The arc (season) needs a big climax as well. That already exists in the comic, it's just a matter of expanding and condensing what already exists. Instead we have substitution everywhere and in most cases I think it goes against what I liked about the original series.

    I'd rather have straightforward reenactments of my favorite parts with filler and abridging, which I am used to seeing already in anime adaptation. Keeping Shane alive for another season was a good choice. The Tyreese alpha and beta models were bad choices. Changing Carl and Andrea's characters to give them an "arc" into competence was a bad idea. Killing Dale was a good move, but regrettably was only a reflex following Darabont's canning. Killing Sophia was a good move, but only done because she was getting taller. This adaptation doesn't look as well planned as the comic, which is a huge detriment. If you know where the source material goes, it should give you plenty of time to flesh out events, build things, put in new material to bring out later incidents.

    It has to follow the comics, otherwise, it's completely pointless to use the same namesake as the comics.

    That said, it doesn't have to follow the comics 100%. I remember someone trying to spoil season 1 for me (I never read the comics at the point) by yelling "Shane dies in the forests!". Only for Shane to die at the end of next season in a field. I loved that.

    If you don't follow the comics at all, it's pointless. If you follow the comics event for event, it's pointless. You have to balance originality and familiarity so comic people are pleased and newcomers won't have everything spoiled for them. The TV show does a damn good job at balancing this. My only issue was the amount of dialogue in season 2.

  • Okay, so we could say, Rick is gonna lose his arm?

  • @Doctanian said: If you don't follow the comics at all, it's pointless. If you follow the comics event for event, it's pointless. You have to balance originality and familiarity so comic people are pleased and newcomers won't have everything spoiled for them. The TV show does a damn good job at balancing this. My only issue was the amount of dialogue in season 2.

    I agree with everything that you said except that the TV show balances the comic events with original events. None of the events of the comic have been shown since the pilot. Since then it's all been a distant adaptation. At this point it's going to be Daryl who survives being locked in the gym full of walkers.

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