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The "whatever's on your mind" thread

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One of the things that's great about this forum is its randomness. Well, this is the epitome of it: a thread for whatever random thought happens to be passing through your mind.

For example, I've just been struck by the most random craving for Taco Bell nachos.

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  • I was just having a weird thought. If God could reveal himself in multiple different ways... why not reveal himself in more than three? What if all the Greek and Norse and Egyptian gods were all the same being?

    I'm gonna stop thinking about that now. It makes my head hurt to think of the deep personal issues that such an undertaking would almost definitely involve.

  • @Chyron8472 said: I didn't belittle him for believing in ghosts. I asked a serious question that I considered to be of a reasonable explanation. I said nothing of whether or not his concern was valid.


    I'd believe that if you hadn't spent another thread talking about how unreasonable it was to believe in zombies to somebody who had already described the fear as a phobia, which is unreasonable by definition. Ultimately you're holding other peoples' superstitions to a higher standard than your own and that's condescending.

    @Chyron8472 said: Weird. I always had people telling me that I must be polytheistic most of my life. Now I wonder what church they were from.


    That's weird, because Trinitarian ideas are common among Baptists, Anglicans, Methodists, Lutherans, and just about any major US denomination.

    Major holdouts in the Nontrinitarian camp are Mormons, Jehova's Witnesses, and maybe some Pentecostals? Nontrinitarianism is actually somewhat fringe theology, relative to Chyron's which is fairly typical for his geographical region at this point in time.

    @Chyron8472 said: I was just having a weird thought. If God could reveal himself in multiple different ways... why not reveal himself in more than three? What if all the Greek and Norse and Egyptian gods were all the same being?


    God has actually revealed himself to the world as every currently worshiped major deity, several minor worshiped deities, and several deities whose various cults have long since died out. God/Jesus/Holy Ghost/Allah/Mohammed/Moronai/etc.

  • All this talk of religion has made me hungry.
    I could go with a nice smoked mackerel sandwich with a glass of red on the side...

  • @Alcoremortis said: I was just having a weird thought. If God could reveal himself in multiple different ways... why not reveal himself in more than three? What if all the Greek and Norse and Egyptian gods were all the same being?

    I'm gonna stop thinking about that now. It makes my head hurt to think of the deep personal issues that such an undertaking would almost definitely involve.


    There are different ways people look at that.

    On the one hand there is:

    John 14:5-7

    5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?”
    6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”


    On the other hand there is:

    Luke 19:40

    37 When he came near the place where the road goes down the Mount of Olives, the whole crowd of disciples began joyfully to praise God in loud voices for all the miracles they had seen:
    38 “Blessed is the king who comes in the name of the Lord!”[b]

    “Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!”

    39 Some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to Jesus, “Teacher, rebuke your disciples!”
    40 “I tell you,” he replied, “if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.”


    (incidentally, the advice that Noname can be protected from ghosts comes from John 14:14)

    12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father. 13 And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

  • When I was a kid, they told us in church that the devil could take any form he wanted. I had nightmares for weeks that he was masquerading as one or the other of my parents. Religion scared the hell out of me.

  • @dustpuffs said: When I was a kid, they told us in church that the devil could take any form he wanted. I had nightmares for weeks that he was masquerading as one or the other of my parents. Religion scared the hell out of me.

    I dunno why, but I was never really scared of the devil, even when I was a kid. I was far more terrified of the coat-people in my closet and the fact that the bedposts on my bed looked like human heads. Also vampires. I still feel uneasy going to bed without something wrapped around my neck, but now it's less because I think I'll wake up dead and more because it gets chilly.

    But the devil always seemed to be a tempter from my catechism. Like, he would try to lure you into doing bad things by making you think they were good things, not take over your body and shit like in the Exorcist. One of my teachers always said that the super good people got tempted more and if they succumbed, their fall was even greater than the regular just kinda okay people. So I decided as a kid that I'd rather just be kinda okay and just slip under the radar.

    Analyzing my actions to things when I was a kid never ceases to amuse me. I also thought that souls were like batteries that needed to be recharged every once and awhile. Like, as in they looked like batteries and everything and a confession just hooked you up to a heavenly battery recharger with the electrical current being carried by however many Hail Maries you were supposed to say.

    Yeah, I'm weird.

  • @Alcoremortis said: One of my teachers always said that the super good people got tempted more and if they succumbed, their fall was even greater than the regular just kinda okay people.


    This sounds like a simpler version of an idea C.S. Lewis wrote about in Mere Christianity, which concerns itself mostly with the mentally ill and the underprivileged.

    @Alcoremortis said: The bad psychological material is not a sin but a disease. It does not need to be repented of, but to be cured. And by the way, that is very important. Human beings judge one another by their external actions. God judges them by their moral choices. When a neurotic who has a pathological horror of cats forces himself to pick up a cat for some good reason, it is quite possible that in God's eyes he has shown more courage than a healthy man may have shown in winning the V.C. When a man who has been perverted from his youth and taught that cruelty is the right thing does some tiny little kindness, or refrains from some cruelty he might have committed, and thereby, perhaps, risks being sneered at by his companions, he may, in God's eyes, be doing more than you and I would do if we gave up life itself for a friend.

    It is as well to put this the other way round. Some of us who seem quite nice people may, in fact, have made so little use of a good heredity and good upbringing that we are really worse than those whom we regard as fiends. Can we be quite certain how we should have behaved if we had been saddled with the psychological outfit, and then with the bad upbringing, and then with the power, say, of Himmler? That is why Christians are told not to judge. We see only the results which a man's choices make out of his raw material. But God does not judge him on the raw material at all, but on what he has done with it. Most of the man's psychological makeup is probably due to his body: when his body dies all that will fall off him, and the real central man, the thing that chose, that made the best or worst out of this material, will stand naked. All sorts of nice things which we thought our own, but which were really due to a good digestion, will fall off some of us: all sorts of nasty things which were due to complexes or bad health will fall off others. We shall then, for the first time, see every one as he really was. There will be surprises.

  • @Alcoremortis said: Technically, Holy Ghost is a Catholic thing. A lot of other Christian churches got rid of it along with the saints because it smacks of polytheism.

    Personally, I always thought that the Holy Ghost was a bedsheet with lots of holes when I was a kid.

    I say Holy Ghost because Holy Spirit can mean anything.

    As for the other part, when I was a little kid, I used to think of the Holy Ghost as something like that, too.

    And also, another amazing theologian was J.R.R. Tolkien. The whole Lord of the Rings thing was meant to represent Christianity. The ring = Temptation. Sauron = The Devil.

  • Dashing jump at people with ridiculous assumptions? What a surprise. Tell me, does Chyron have a martyr complex too, Dashing?

    Want me to stop that? I'll stop when you stop.

    I'll go on record and say that I believe in God, and I think Jesus was a real person (because many don't think he even existed), but I don't know in what form this God takes or even if he's knowable. I guess I'm borderline agnostic, but I'm so far out of field on religion I don't even have a classification. I just don't know what I believe. I will say if God exists I'm terrified of him. I'm afraid of coming face to face with an omnipotent being. I'm terrified of the unknown. I'm terrified of not knowing what the experience would be like. I'm terrified of an afterlife with angels and spirits and whatever. I'm terrified of the whole concept. I'm terrified of no afterlife too. I'm scared no matter what may come, and that's a big part of why I consider existence horrifying. I have no escape.

    I was raised Christian and my parents are very fundamentalist. They aren't extremists but they're borderline. They forced a childhood on me with no holidays, no friends, and no pop culture. As I grew up they knew they had to change some of their tactics or I would have completely become unmanageable. In return I got to live all over the country, I got to appreciate what I had and time outside in the sun, and I understood commercialism early and learned that following right behind everyone else just because society says so isn't always the best option. But I've never been close to God. God has never blessed me the way Christians seem to think He would. If God exists, He doesn't like me. And don't come in here telling me bullshit about how much God loves me. Because I've always felt nothing if an incalculable sense of being completely and utterly ALONE. Inside and out. Christians have only ever judged me and treated me like an outcast and a moron while throwing their doctrines back and forth around me and parading how smart they think they are. Many of them turned out to be fakes anyway, like my abusive ex-uncle who beat the shit out of my aunt and then turned around and preached God every chance he got. My parents tried to keep me around Christian children, but I have never known a Christian my age who wasn't in some way judgmental and who I had to watch myself around ALL THE TIME in order to not end up on their radar of people to judge. In the end, I ended up with all of them abandoning me. I can only assume it's because God wanted them to. They always had everything. All the friends, all the talents, all the respect, and all the blessings. Maybe God hates me because I have envy. I don't know. It's easy to pick out something like that to blame for my shitty life, though.

    I don't want to have children. People who have them seem to rethink things a lot once they're there. I've heard a lot of people say they feel like there's more than just bags of meat there before them, due to parental affection. But to me, all I can think is that I would be creating lives who might have to experience the horror of planet-wide annihilation in their lifetime. And then what have I done? I live in fear enough that I'll experience that. How can I do that to my future children?

    I consider the world and life in general a joke. The world doesn't run how it should. It's just a faceless, uncaring, evil business. The world is a business. But humor is all I have to stay sane. Tonight I will go to bed and feel completely alone and empty inside, and tomorrow I will to.

  • You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.

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