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This really suprised me.

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When I completed episode 2 and I was among the small percentage of people who had killed both St. Johns Brothers.... What is wrong with people!! They would have eaten you alive lest they had the chance!!!

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  • I didn't know Clem was there and I was so caught up in the moment. When I saw Danny in the trap I kept seeing Mark and the crazy women he shot, I ran through them grabbing Clem and the rage I felt and I stabbed the shit out of him. Knowing Clem was watching with the second brother, knowing he had lost his whole family, the will to live and the means to do so I said no, you get to live with that for those short brutal moments left to you. He was already broken, completely dead inside killing him was a mercy he didn't deserve and Clem didn't need to see anyone else die today.

  • Leaving them to the walkers that were invading the farm at the time was worse than just shooting/stabbing them and having that over and done with. Going back, I'd probably kill Danny (I spared them both before) because I detested him since the beginning, but I honestly really liked Andy and Brenda.

    But Brenda turned into a walker and you saw her limping towards Andy who was making no move to run, so they probably got devoured anyway.

  • I killed Danny because that was a painful death for him, as painful as I could give. Killing Andy was a mercy I didn't give him. The son of a bitch got his face mashed up and was devoured by walkers, and I still think that wasn't enough.

  • @lucid616 said: When I completed episode 2 and I was among the small percentage of people who had killed both St. Johns Brothers.... What is wrong with people!! They would have eaten you alive lest they had the chance!!!



    I had Lee kill both St. John brothers as well, and had Lee later explain to Clem that they were dangerous and that it was done for the good of the group.

    It was a combination of rage over what they had done to Mark and what they wanted to do to Clementine, and wanting to get rid of them so that they couldn't hurt any more survivors. They had killed and eaten other 'guests,' and it is implied that the bear trap that ensnares the teacher that was with Ben was placed there by the St. John brothers to catch people to eat. I was afraid that sparing them might leave them around to kill more people.

    If you spare the St. John brothers they end up getting killed anyway, except by zombies. And getting devoured by zombies is perhaps more fitting, considering they were killing and eating other people. But the first time through there is no way of knowing that, unless you've read or watched spoilers.

  • I didn't kill them cuz i didn't want Clem to see it and they would've just get killed by walkers (i didn't really know that would happen,but i assumed,so everything worked out fine ^^)

  • I didn't kill either and I've regretted it ever since. I was naive letting them live, yes I spared clem seeing them die but what if they come back? Something tells me Andy at least is out there a remaining threat to clem. I think they are the main reason I play more ruthless now, so I don't feel that regret again :(

  • @lucid616 said: When I completed episode 2 and I was among the small percentage of people who had killed both St. Johns Brothers.... What is wrong with people!! They would have eaten you alive lest they had the chance!!!


    I would have killed Danny if Clem wasn't there but that would have just been my knee jerk reaction, on the impulse of anger like when I left Lilly on the road side on my first playthrough but then I realised that the brothers suffer far more if you don't kill them. Danny is practically goading Lee and telling him to kill him and eat him and Andy is telling Lee to finish him off. Why should I give them what they want?

    Danny wanted me to become him and abandon my humanity. By giving into his provocation I am just as bad, in his eyes as him, making him see himself as normal. By telling him I will not become him through leaving him I am showing him how wrong he is. There is no way he could get out of that Bear trap. Remember M.R Parker? One way or another he would be subject to the same fate.

    When it came to Andy, by then I knew walkers were coming because Carly took one out and I knew that the fence was damaged because I sabotaged it earlier. I knew that Brenda was bitten and it would be worse for Andy to discover the death of his mother and state of his brother. They were both as good as dead, but what made leaving them more satisfying was knowing that their fates will be worse because they were spared. They get to see that they have lost everything because they fucked with us and they get to see us walk off in the moon light without blood on our hands, with our humanity intact, making us the better men which kind of rubbishes their philosophy.

    We get the last laugh. They see us win and see us see them loose. A bullet is quick and puts them out of their misery. The fact that Clem is proud of us and respects us more is just a bonus. The rest of the group see you as a good man so they can judge you for themselves even after they learn about your past. You prove to them that you’re a good man and not the monstrous murderer the press made you out to be.

  • Ya didn't kill them... but you didn't have to save them either.

    One of them was left stuck in a bear trap and the other was left unarmed, all while a horde of walkers smashed through their fence. Killing them probably would've been the more merciful thing to do.

  • @IndigoHawk said: I didn't feel bad about killing the St Johns, and I too was surprised how few people killed them. The St Johns were a danger not only to your group but to anyone who met them.

    However, as I thought about it more, I regretted how it was done. There was no reason for Lee to decide on his own (it should have been put to a vote) and people could have decided whether they wanted to watch the executions or not. Kids didn't need to see it.

    The people who just wanted to get their group and leave the St Johns alive are pretty irresponsible. And the people who wanted the St Johns to be eaten by zombies (instead of executed) are into revenge, not justice.


    You're far more merciful than you give yourself credit for. Why did the Governor leave Merle and Milton mortally wounded in the show? So they suffer more and turn. I left the brothers for the same reason I didn't shoot the stranger after strangling him, so they suffer more. The stranger will spend the rest of his existence as a walker until he starves going from “roamer” state to the weaker “lurker” state until he has no energy left. In the brothers case they have to wait until the walkers draw closer then they suffer the pain of being eaten alive. Poetic justice at it's best. The irony of being eaten alive after their antiques is priceless.

  • @Firewallcano said: I didn't kill either and I've regretted it ever since. I was naive letting them live, yes I spared clem seeing them die but what if they come back? Something tells me Andy at least is out there a remaining threat to clem. I think they are the main reason I play more ruthless now, so I don't feel that regret again :(


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