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Molly was the one character where Telltale stumbled

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Overall I loved TWD and most of the characters in it. In fact I'd go so far as to say that The Walking Dead is one of the most memorable games I've ever played.

But I think Telltale stumbled a bit with Molly. The great thing about all the other characters in TWD is that they are entirely believable. They seem like real people just caught up in extraordinary circumstances. The one exception to that is Molly.

The ninja acrobatics and the ability to apparently vanish killed immersion a bit. They should have toned that down a bit and made her bad@ssery a bit more grounded in reality. No acrobatics that a real person couldn't pull off, no Houdini disappearing acts, and no using a claw hammer like a superhero grappling hook.

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  • @double_u said: One part I never found believable was when kenny and lee went to ambush molly at the new stand. We had her in our line of sight during the approach, but by the time lee got up there, she vanished and was behind lee. Parkour or not it seems a bit far fetched.



    It's very believable. You need to take some art classes, and and study perception. It's easy for her to have just walked around in the time Lee looked down, front and center.

    The italicized words are a hint. ;)

  • @watertommyz said: It's very believable. You need to take some art classes, and and study perception. It's easy for her to have just walked around in the time Lee looked down, front and center.

    The italicized words are a hint. ;)



    Do you mean perspective?

  • Too bad we never saw if she's dead or not after the horde.

    Perhaps a season 2 cameo? :D

  • In an interview on of the developers said she was meant to bring hope to the player. i.e. Everything starts going right when she appears, e.e. finding the boat and so forth; and when she leaves, Clem gets kidnapped and lee gets bit.

  • @Demopan said: If you were rehearsing it, it would be in a particular location in a specific sequence. Not wherever you please. Learn your words and stop making forum accounts just to agree with you.



    I'm glad someone understood what I meant by 'rehearsed.'


    @Demopan said: One part I never found believable was when kenny and lee went to ambush molly at the new stand. We had her in our line of sight during the approach, but by the time lee got up there, she vanished and was behind lee. Parkour or not it seems a bit far fetched.

    That was probably Molly's most over-the-top scene. She was cornered in a newstand from which she had no where to go without either Lee or Kenny observing her movements. Yet she somehow vanishes and reappears behind Lee.

  • Since no one has brought it up yet and quite a few people seem to think what Molly does is unrealistic:

    Parkour and freerunning in general:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX7QNWEGcNI
    Mostly simple moves in this one but it has it's moments.

    John Morrison (former WWE star):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR4iiunIZGs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1-JaBBI2vc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x3K9NkUlEs
    First two vids are Morrison training/practicing. Third video is him actually using basic parkour as well as capoeira in his matches.

    Casino Royale parkour chase:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJubOZLpp4A
    Here's the opening chase scene from Casino Royale. The stuntman/actor that Bond is chasing is one of the actual creators of the sport and does a good job at showing off a few pretty risky moves during this chase.

    Honestly if anything I'd say Molly was LESS over the top compared to typical parkour stunts. Granted I'll give you guys the scene when we first meet her where she seemingly disappears and gets the drop on Lee. Everything else however that involved parkour and her climbing axe could be done if you had the training, strength and reflexes for it.

  • Like gymnastics, parkour is rehearsed.

    If you took a parkour athlete into an unfamiliar urban enviroment, and told them 'go,' the chances of them getting injured are rather high.

  • @Scaeva said: Like gymnastics, parkour is rehearsed.

    If you took a parkour athlete into an unfamiliar urban enviroment, and told them 'go,' the chances of them getting injured are rather high.



    We discussed this on the previous page, and again, rehearsed is just another word for practice.

    @Scaeva said: Do you mean perspective?

    Of course.

  • @watertommyz said: We discussed this on the previous page, and again, rehearsed is just another word for practice.



    Parkour is rehearsed in a static location.

    A person who is into parkour couldn't just drop blind into any location and run through a routine without running a great risk of injury.

    There is a reason why parkour has only gotten limited attention from militaries. The practicable applications of parkour beyong physical fitness, are just as limited.

  • Well, Molly's had three and a half months to learn her way around the rooftops of Savannah. She even says that she's pretty much stuck in the city, so she really doesn't have anything else to do. Sides, I thought the parkour was kinda neat. The one thing I don't like is how she goes to take on the entire horde that Ben lets into Crawford. Sure she gets royally fucked, and gets left behind if Clem isn't there and Lee sucks at shooting, but she took on those initial walkers like it was zero problem.

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