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Check out Telltale's new beta site!

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Hey all! You might have noticed the shiny new banner at the top of the page... the web team here has literally just launched the public beta test for our new site.

I can't add much more instruction-wise to what's already in the blog post, so go check that out for more info. However, if you want a shortcut, here's the path to the Community section (aka the new forum).

Your feedback is welcomed and appreciated - let us know on the beta forum what you think of the new look and feel, and of course flag it up if you find any bugs we can squash! It'd be awesome if discussion of the beta forum happened ON the beta forum, but I'll leave this thread open just for anyone who might have trouble registering in the new place.

See you over there!

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UPDATE: The beta is done for now - thanks so much to all who participated! Your feedback has been well received, and the web team will be making some updates to the site functionality before the big launch. We really appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts!

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  • @corruptbiggins said: I'm with you. I really don't think I could use it regularly. And it's not easy to dip in and out of every few days while also keeping up with postings. This isn't a fear of change talking, this is my fear that the sense of community alive in this place will be irreversibly lost in the new place. I get that changes to the site need to be made but it needn't be so radical especially with the community heart of the place.

    But this is only my opinion and I doubt that it carries much weight around here.

    @corruptbiggins said: I would be alright if multiple nested comments applied to official news posts to give them that Reddit feel while either removing nested comments beyond a reply to a forum post or keeping them but having them toggled (not on by default would be nice). I made a post with more feedback on the beta forums.

    These are all the things I've been saying for the past three and a half months, and it's exactly what I hoped and expected to hear the community say when the beta went public. I don't think I'll be able to continue using the forums either, if they remain structured this way.

  • @GuruGuru214 said: These are all the things I've been saying for the past three and a half months, and it's exactly what I hoped and expected to hear the community say when the beta went public. I don't think I'll be able to continue using the forums either, if they remain structured this way.

    Likewise, sadly. I love hanging out here, but the new forum's just too cluttered to cope with.

  • Well, I'm still waiting for that verification email :/ But i did look at the fourms and while i like how they got rid of the classics part and gave each game their own box. I will say that it looks cluttered. On the bright side at least it might be harder for spambots to spam on these new fourms.

  • @GuruGuru214 said: These are all the things I've been saying for the past three and a half months, and it's exactly what I hoped and expected to hear the community say when the beta went public. I don't think I'll be able to continue using the forums either, if they remain structured this way.

    Well, I've been talking and apparently there's a very easy fix that will give the best of both worlds. Most recent comment at the last page (so we get chronological order), but it has a link back to see the rest of the nested comments. I'm assuming this would be similar to what youtube has, but nicer.

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    @Alcoremortis said: Or we could just agree as a community to always respond only to the original post. This would make our own normal forum.

    If only that could work. The new conversational paradigm goes deeper than that. Essentially, there's no option to quote people any more, neither in part nor in full, so we'd loose the opportunity to actively respond to a previous comment. The proposed protest posting would impair our communication even more.

    I must admit, after seeing nesting in actual action on the beta, I'm beginning to really loathe it.

    Youtube, reddit or, say, DeviantArt are no points of comparison for this community. Reddit's way of communication is so impaired that it mostly serves for the formation of internet mobs, people who are used to understanding only a quarter of the conversation. Youtube commenters are also famous for something all right. And DeviantArt already had to restrict critiques to their paying customers, which is possibly even connected to their nested comments.

  • @Vainamoinen said: I must admit, after seeing nesting in actual action on the beta, I'm beginning to really loathe it.

    I am enjoying it now but imagine several hundred more users and extra long topics. This will be a nightmare. for all of us. Especially the mods.

  • I can tell you right now that this new forum won't tolerate a Whatever thread. If we were to allow that thread to continue after launch, it would collapse under its own weight within a month, and that's being generous.

  • IDK if this a feature already on the new forum but a Tweet button would be good like you can retweet people's comments and link your account to twitter like youtube.

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    Hello, I'm writing here since I can't even post in the beta site, because I never receive the confirmation e-mail (not even in the spam folder).

    I feel that switching the forum software from the mature, tried and tested vBulletin to an untested (until now) custom-made proprietary forum software is a mistake. vBulletin has been working great for lots of years. Why change that to reinvent the wheel while doing a worse job overall?

    The new interface is confusing, hard to navigate, and has poor design choices. The new design is bad for both low and high resolution screens. In low resolution screens, you have too much fixed bars at the top taking screen real state. You have:

    - The top grey "telltalegames" bar (with options for "Store", "News", etc...)
    - The dark grey "ticker" bar which also contains the "Login" and "Cart" buttons
    - The animated thick beige bar that appears when scrolling down just to inform you of what forum are you in and giving options for "like", "dislike" and "flag".

    All those fixed bars make the actual forum viewport too small in a low/medium resolution monitor (I use a 1360x768 screen). Why make all those top bars fixed? It would be way better if they all just moved up when scrolling, like in the old website. No need to have all that stuff at the top of the screen at all times. When you're reading a forum, you don't need to have access to ALL those buttons at all times. You're just reading text! And while reading text, it's better to have a big viewport, rather than a small one that forces you to scroll a lot.

    In addition to the visible scrollable part of the forum being vertically small, it's also inexplicably narrow horizontally as well! Why? This makes the website worse also for high resolution monitors and also makes it look like a really old website (old websites were narrow since they were made for the low resolution monitors of the day). In my other monitor, which is 1920x1080, the whole website looks too narrow, because it's made for a width of only 1024 pixels! The old forum was made for a width of 1280 pixels, which is still narrow for a 1920 pixel width monitor, but quite better. Also, 1280 is the minimum width most people have. Who has a 1024x768 monitor nowadays? (unless browsing with an old iPad).

    So the new design manages to be bad both for low and high resolution screens...

    Also, the nested messages are ok for a comments section in a blog, but not for a forum! Also it's missing regular forum features such as attachments, subscriptions, polls, etc... which is regular fare for any standard forum.

    I can understand that implementing all those features can be time consuming, but again, why reinvent the wheel when the vBulletin forum software had those features years ago and Telltale was already using it in the old site?

    I think Telltale should only remodelate the other parts of the site, but not the forum. They can't reach in a few months the quality vBulletin and other forum software have reached in more than a decade (vBulletin started development in the year 2000!).

    Sorry if I might sound harsh but I think it makes no sense to reinvent the forum. Other sections of the website, sure, but not the forum, for the reasons stated above. Surely TTG should have other development priorities than redeveloping a forum from scratch when there is an already mature forum software such as vBulletin.

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