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What's with everyone hating on Kenny?

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I don't get it.

In my playthrough of the game, he was the closest person to me besides Clem.

I don't understand why people hate him for the things he did. Lets put you guys in his situations.

1. If Clem or Shawn is in trouble, wouldn't you make sure Clem is safe before Shawn is? Especially if there's another person around to help the other.

2. If Larry would be screaming that Clem is bitten and want's to throw her out, wouldn't you get defensive and wanna punch him in the face?

3. If you looted the entire area around you and ran out of resources wouldn't you want to move on if you had your own RV? Nothing left.

4. (The most debatable one, but I will always side with Kenny here) Killing Larry. I am stunned by how many people decided to try and save him. Are you guys serious? This guy was a complete arse to you the entire time. He tried to KILL YOU in EP 1 and threatened you/blackmailed you in episode 2. He was not afraid to kill you if he had the chance. In fact by trying to kill you he put Clem's life in danger more or less the same as Ben did leaving her.

And now you're in a locked room with someone who's known to have heart issues who just dropped and stopped breathing. You and your family is in danger of getting eaten by a really strong zombie with no way out.

Are you REALLY going to try and revive someone like that? Understanding very well that if you don't get it in time you just doomed everyone in that room, you, Clem, Kenny everyone. Dead. And people seem to blame Kenny for doing what he did?

Everyone can have their own opinions on this topic, but I would never put everyone at risk to try and save some that is a complete POS and is about to turn and kill you all. Kenny was absolutely in the right state of thinking here.

5. If Clem was bitten... wouldn't YOU want to hold out on killing her? Wouldn't you want to grasp on to hope and have every last second with her? It's not like he didn't come to his sense's... He did what he had to do at the very end, if you say you forced him, that's what the group is there for. Supporting each other.

Hell if Clem was bitten I would just turn off the game because I wouldn't be able to kill her. In fact in real life I don't know how I would react to something like this. Kenny was extremely strong by the end of all this.

I'll skip a lot of the minor parts here and go to EP 4

6. Finally, if you found out that Ben took away everything you had in your life... Let's say Ben got Clem killed, caused numerous other deaths and was lying to you this entire time, wouldn't YOU want him dead in the spur of the moment? At the end of the day you all have emotions.

I can keep going on and on... but every time I hear people talk about how much Kenny was an asshole I just do not get it. What would you do so different in his position? What makes him such an asshole? Because he always faced reality and told things like they were? He was just a man trying to take care of his family. What's with all the hate on him?

In fact, by the end of the game Kenny was the only one I trusted with Clem. Not only would Clem become part of Kenny's family this way (Thus giving Kenny a reason to keep going now) but I damn well know he would do everything in his power to protect her. Whatever it is, he would do whats best for her safety.

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  • @J_Scheff said: He is only a dick if you are the dick first. He always has your back if you have his.


    Wait a minute... So refusing to help him kill Larry and Beatrice makes me a dick? Uhm, what? That was literally the only times I didn't side with Kenny and guess what? As a result of me not helping him murder people, he gave me this line at the end of episode four:

    "Lee, man... You know I care about Clementine, and I am a Christian man. But if it were me, asking you for help. Would you be there for me? Because there's been plenty of times, when you haven't been."

    Oh, well excuse me Kenny. The only times I was there for you and your family was:

    [LIST]
    [*]When Duck was being attacked by walkers at the farm
    [*]When Larry accused Duck of being bitten
    [*]When I fed you and your family at the drug store
    [*]When I was so trusting that I told you it was my parent's store
    [*]When I consoled you about letting Shawn die
    [*]When Lilly was yelling at the both of us at the beginning of episode two
    [*]When you asked me what I thought of his idea of getting a boat
    [*]When I fed you and your family, again, at the motor inn
    [*]When I saved your wife's life when David attacked her
    [*]When I reaffirmed my loyalty towards him at the dairy
    [*]When I once against saved his wife and later his son when the St. Johns attacked
    [*]When I told you the coast was a good idea, once again
    [*]When I told you the truth about my past
    [*]When I fed and watered your dying son
    [*]When I talked you down in stopping the train
    [*]When I offered to put Duck out of his misery, for him and his family
    [*]When I saved his life at the beginning of episode four
    [/LIST]

    Oh but nooo, I was totally not there for your and your family. The worst thing is how he'd leave a little girl to die over a grudge with me. Kenny really was a horrible person for most of the game. I believe he redeemed himself in episode five but even then... I understand why people hate him.

  • I hate betrayal.

    Kenny betrays you if you don't indulge his murder fetish.

    Thus, I hate Kenny.

  • I bet Katjaa would done the same thing with larry.

  • @vivec said: I bet Katjaa would done the same thing with larry.

    Actually, if Kat had been there I probably would have tried to save him.

  • @Rock114 said: Actually, if Kat had been there I probably would have tried to save him.

    No i meant if kat was there instead of kenny. she would killed larry as well

  • @vivec said: No i meant if kat was there instead of kenny. she would killed larry as well


    Doubtful, I don't even think the thought would cross her mind. She'd probably try to revive him along with Lilly (she is the group's doctor after all). Katjaa's reaction to the truth about what happened to Larry, after all, was quite grim.

    "What happened to Larry when you were trapped in the fridge?"
    "I was giving him CPR with Lilly when Kenny put an end to it.."
    "What did he do?"
    "He smashed his head in."
    *gasp*
    "... Katjaa."
    "Everything keeps changing..."

  • @CarScar said: Doubtful, I don't even think the thought would cross her mind. She'd probably try to revive him along with Lilly (she is the group's doctor after all). Katjaa's reaction to the truth about what happened to Larry, after all, was quite grim.

    "What happened to Larry when you were trapped in the fridge?"
    "I was giving him CPR with Lilly when Kenny put an end to it.."
    "What did he do?"
    "He smashed his head in."
    *gasp*
    "... Katjaa."
    "Everything keeps changing..."


    I agree. In fact, I would go a step further to say that Kenny killing Larry contributed to Katjaa opting out. Duck played a huge role in Katjaa's suicide, no doubt about that. But Kenny's decision in the meat locker seemed to have shocked Katjaa so great that she saw the ZA had changed Kenny so much to the point he was no longer the husband she knew. So when Duck died, Katjaa probably saw she had nothing left in the world. This is, of course, totally based on conjecture.

  • Kenny strikes me as being an uber-Conservative sort of guy. I don't have any real evidence to back this up, of course, but his "you're with me or you're against me" mindset reminds me of George Dubya's "you're with us or you're against us in the fight against terror."

    I don't think this necessarily makes Kenny a despicable character. It just makes him more interesting, and it definitely explains why he's so quick to turn on Lee after just one decision.

  • Just wanted to argue this one little point.

    @Advanced said:
    1. If Clem or Shawn is in trouble, wouldn't you make sure Clem is safe before Shawn is? Especially if there's another person around to help the other.

    This was NOT what happened with Shawn and Duck. Kenny saved Duck first yes and that is understandable, what he did after that was not. He got Duck to safety, then, knowing Duck was safe and that Shawn was still in danger, ran away after we were screaming for his help.

    The rest of Kenny's actions were understandable to a degree, but this, along with the fact that he is a giant baby if you disagree with him on ANYTHING, was the main reason I didn't trust him. Cowardly and immature.

  • Yeah about that..

    1. The problem is, Clem wasn't dragged into this. Kenny rescued Duck. That's fine and all, but he could just put Duck down and help Lee save Shawn. Instead, he ran away. That's a real heroic move. He does look out for his family and that's nice but he had the chance to help save Shawn and he didn't do it!

    2. Larry's not such an asshole. He warned you at the end of episode 1 to not hurt "That little girl", meaning Clementine. And again, Clem wasn't involved in anything like that.

    3. Okay, with this i agree. I may be against some moves that Kenny did but he's still my bud, i don't hate him entirely. I agreed with the RV idea as it seemed smart. They couldn't survive in the motor inn forever.

    4. I strongly disapprove of this. Alright, fine. Larry was an asshole in episode 1, i thought so too. Have you talked to Lily about him in episode 2 though, in the dairy? That changed my opinion about him.

    Larry at first seemed like a senseless prick. But, if you look deep into this, you may realize he has good intentions. He doesn't trust you, as you murdered someone in the past. Wouldn't you be just a little bit uncomfortable around a guy who killed a person recently? Because i would.

    Larry has lost everyone dear to him, except Lily, his daughter. With that, he became extra protective, hence why he acts so harsh. Larry's afraid because there's a murderer in the group, Lee might harm Lily.

    His relationship with Brenda before everything went to hell also suggests that once upon a time, he was a nice guy. His wife is more likely dead now though. That's a traumatic experience that changes a person, and Larry became way too serious. And i can't truly blame him.

    Have you ever heard of the definition of a "Jerk with a heart of gold"? His little personality he has can't be liked, but he cares about his daughter and he would do anything to protect her. He doesn't deserve to die because of that.

    Not to mention, Larry was still alive. How can i prove this, you may ask? When you try to save him, when you give him CPR, if you click enough times, Larry will start breathing, signified by him opening his mouth. You know..right before it's smashed by a salt lick in front of Clementine's eyes?

    A walker is usually recognizable by his rotten skin. David, coming back about..10-20 minutes after he dies, looked like he had just that.

    Larry didn't.

    See where i'm going here?

    Anyway, that was a pretty huge rant so i'm just gonna move on.

    5. I was nice to Duck and the information he was bitten, and in every playtrough i did, i chose the best options and holded out on the fact he would turn. Duck was annoying in episode 1 and 2 but i can't bring myself to kill a child, that would just make me look like i truly don't care about anything.


    6. Now this is truly a 50/50 kind of thing. Me myself, i despised Ben. He made a deal with the bandits and never even told the group about that problem. Not to mention how he nearly screwed the group over by removing the axe from the door handles. Didn't it look just a little bit like a barricade? See, the game WANTS you to hate him. And with that, i guess i'm gonna follow along with the game's plans when it comes to Ben.

    All in all..even though i hated Ben, i couldn't bring myself to drop him in the bell tower. I agreed with Kenny about how he's useless but i can't bring myself to kill a being that wants to mean good. I'm not a monster.

    Not to mention, try to save Larry. After that, just because you disagreed with him, he didn't help you twice and he had an attitude from there on. As a zombie apocalypse goes, a reason to turn against Lee like that is just childish and stupid.

    Anyway, that's all i got i guess. Feel free to say whatever you want about my post.

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