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Why didnt Larry reveal Lee's past to the group?

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Was he wanting to blackmail Lee in the future or something?

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  • Everyone was already pretty uneasy with Larry in the first place, if Larry had chose to reveal who Lee really was then just maybe everyone would stick by Larry? Who knows. Although I don't think Larry was a bad guy at all, the world had turned to crap and he was just looking out for his daughter and Clementine.

  • Larry was a father. He loves his daughter. He wasn't lost his humanity. If he revealed Lee's past to the group. Then, they could kick Lee. And Lee and Clementine could be alone.(I'm sure Clementine wants to go with him) That's why he didn't reveal Lee's past to the group. He knew this day could come.

  • @Mornai said: Lilly herself basically says Larry was like that before the apocalypse even began. "It's just his way." He treats everyone like garbage not because he hopes they'll off themselves(and have less numbers for protection, less efficient supply gathering, watchmen, etc.) but because that's his personality. It's how he was before the apocalypse and how he was afterward. Additionally with his heart condition, it seems unlikely he would put more work on himself by getting rid of survivors when they could be doing work for him.

    Actually, I think Lilly basically says that Larry became an ass as a result of the apocalypse. The whole spiel about how he was hardened because he already lost everything else, etc. We do see signs that there's an actual human being under there at times; most notably, his interactions with Brenda. Likewise, as I've mentioned elsewhere, when Kenny advocates potentially taking the Dairy by force, it's Larry that balks at the idea on the basis that the St. Johns are "good people" (he's a sucky judge of character, so there is that).

    He certainly wasn't adverse to work, either... he was the one who dragged what were presumably the bodies of Lee's parents out of the drug store office.

  • @CarScar said: No, no, no.

    [LIST=1]
    [*]Making people feel bad leads to suicide

    [*]Suicide leads to zombies

    [*]Zombies lead to death
    [/LIST]
    OR

    [LIST=1]
    [*]Making people feel bad leads to thoughts of murder

    [*]Thoughts of murder leads to murder

    [*]Murder leads to a dead Larry.
    [/LIST]

    Larry is literally one of the biggest assholes in a game I've ever seen. He's so evil that his subtitle text is RED.

    Could not agree more! :cool: I don't know why anyone would prefer to take Larrys side:confused: because there is a difference in protecting your family and being a completely massive evil asshole!

  • The way I see it: Larry just used his knowledge as a precaution in case Lee does something dangerous to him or his daughter. The whole reason for "hatred" is that Larry knew who Lee was before the apocalypse - a convicted killer, so naturally, he thought Lee was dangerous.

    I don't think that Larry wanted to blackmail Lee - he didn't even tell Lilly about Lee's past while he had a chance to do so without any possible backfire. He just said that "there's something to this guy".

    He was an asshole, but not a bad person - that's how I see him. He wasn't the smartest type, but he did his best to protect Lilly and himself. I don't think that his actions or decisions were wise and acceptable, but that's what he thought was best.

    He was always pragmatic, I can even understand some of his reasoning behind throwing Duck out in the drugstore. Emotions and morals aside, they knew nothing about the zombies or about how it all works, so potentially, I would've also been cautious about a person cowered in blood that was in a close contact with zombies before coming to me. Kid or not, it potentially could be dangerous, it could harm the group or a person I care for. It's just that he presented this in a total jackass kind of way that made it look horrible.

    In my playthrough, I tried to be nice to him, I tried to understand his intentions. He actually tried to help me with that zombie in a pickup truck, while he could easily stay aside and watch me die.

    When Mark told Larry that I said that Larry just cares for Lilly and does everything to protect her, he was out of words. Which means that he couldn't really bring himself to say something really bad to me after hearing my real thoughts about him, which means that he wasn't a bad guy after all.

    Of course, I tried to help him out in a meat locker. If things were different, I'm sure that my Lee could've changed Larry's attitude to "neutral" afterwards.

    It is obvious that developers tried to make him look like a completely negative character, hence the red font and all the stuff, but he really wasn't so bad. For a "negative" character he surprisingly never harmed anyone other than verbally.

    Now if we look at Ben, that's a complete opposite - he is not an asshole towards people, he doesn't hate you, yet he's responsible directly or indirectly for how many deaths in your group?

    There you go. I chose Larry over Ben anytime, at least Larry can be useful for something other than whining :D

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    @CarScar said: No, no, no.

    [LIST=1]
    [*]Making people feel bad leads to suicide

    [*]Suicide leads to zombies[/list]

    Suicides involving the destruction of the brain don't lead to zombies.

    RE Katja, Chuck, the dead couple on the bed in episode V & cf. Duck, Lee.

  • @JamesDMorgan said: Of course, I tried to help him out in a meat locker. If things were different, I'm sure that my Lee could've changed Larry's attitude to "neutral" afterwards.

    Yeah, because he was so grateful the first time Lee saved his life, he only tried to kill him as thanks. :p

    You're deluding yourself if you ever think Larry would ever be less of an asshole to anyone in the group. He yells at Lee for poking around the St. Johns, then yells at him for "dragging his feet". Same thing in episode one. He gives this big speech about how a single walker will make more and kill us all if any get into the store, then he yells at Carley for shooting a walker that was in the store. There was no pleasing the man.

    And at least when Ben whines, he doesn't give himself a heart attack and makes already terrible situations even worse. Larry being an asshole was literally the death of him. :D

  • @CarScar said: No, no, no.

    Larry is literally one of the biggest assholes in a game I've ever seen. He's so evil that his subtitle text is RED.

    I seriously laughed at that. Reminded me of learning of the four temperaments, and how red is hot tempered, violent etc. DUH! Why didn't any of us see this from the beginning? xD But yeah... Larry needed to die. Besides the fact Lilly was leaving, and she wouldn't without her dad... he was just a prick. If there had been an option to unload a shotgun cartridge into his face instead, that'd be awesome, cuz he's earned my death list after my first playthrough. If you wanna drop a salt lick on his head after, that'd just be an option :P

  • @JamesDMorgan said:
    I don't think that Larry wanted to blackmail Lee - he didn't even tell Lilly about Lee's past while he had a chance to do so without any possible backfire. He just said that "there's something to this guy".

    Uh... he does tell her, that is how she blabs it out to the entire group on the side of the road. Her father told her at the drugstore, and seeing how Lilly never talks of Lee almost being left to get eaten, I'd call Lilly as big an asshole as her father.


    He was an asshole, but not a bad person - that's how I see him. He wasn't the smartest type, but he did his best to protect Lilly and himself. I don't think that his actions or decisions were wise and acceptable, but that's what he thought was best.


    He only tried to protect Lilly and himself, that's the thing. But what did they REALLY do for the group besides boss everyone around and complain how they were stupid? And that was about the nicest insult. And yeah, well if I thought the best action was to put a bullet through his skull, I wouldn't win character of the year award for TWD. Maybe as being a complete dick, but not for being a good survivor. And just because you think it may be best, doesn't mean it is the best for everyone. If you only worry for yourself, then you should go survive by yourself. At least Lilly did that, after cold murder that was even worse than her father. Seriously, they both are nothing good.


    Now if we look at Ben, that's a complete opposite - he is not an asshole towards people, he doesn't hate you, yet he's responsible directly or indirectly for how many deaths in your group?

    There you go. I chose Larry over Ben anytime, at least Larry can be useful for something other than whining :D

    Ben at least tries to help. Had Larry been there, Duck would have been shot in the head immediately, and Katjaa still would have committed suicide. Kenny would have gotten into a fight with Larry, with Lilly helping Larry and Carley helping Kenny. You would either be a mediator or on one side. You really think that is a better trade? That'd of brought the death toll of episode 3 from 4(Lilly left) to like 6-7 xD. Ben was useful, he was keeping everyone safe with the supplies. Who caused the shootout? Lilly, with "her itchy trigger finger". Right as a peace agreement was being made, she goes shooting them like she has the right. She was just lucky they were stupid and caught off guard. Lilly caused the Motel to be overrun, Lilly caused Duck's bite, Lilly caused Katjaa and Carley/Doug's death, and would have tried for Ben on Doug's side. And you'd want Larry with you? He'd probably blame you and shoot you for it. Ben was a screwup, we all know that, but his intentions were good and the blame on what happened could be called stupid or a lack of communication. Seriously, when Kenny asked Ben to find something to break the door down, when there were supposed to be tools there, shouldn't someone have told him "Hey Ben! Be careful, there are walkers out there. And BY THE WAY, stay away from the doors with the hatchet closing it, and whatever you do, don't take the hatchet." Ben was a good person, and tried to do the right thing. He just happened to have flaws that matched a "non-survivor during a zombie apocalypse". Unlike Zombieland, someone who is scared of so much can only make it so far. It wasn't his fault that Telltales wanted everyone to hate him. But his character is extremely realistic as to how someone would be during a zombie apocalypse. No? Larry had a heart attack per episode. At two you really shouldn't keep him along. HE is a detriment. I'd prefer a coward to a man who can't keep his cool, stop shouting, tried to kill me, and has heart attacks every episode. Oh, and also has a relationship with a woman who kills people secretly and eats them like meat. How could you pick someone who hates your guts like Larry over someone like Ben? Ben at least unintentionally kept the group alive for awhile. Had he not made a deal with the bandits, the entire group probably'd be dead, considering Kenny hadn't yet fixed the RV. But hey, that's my opinion, and your funeral friend :D

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