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Choices you changed on a replay

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So, as the title says.

Which choices did you make the first time around that you later changed on your second or third play through of the game?

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My example would probably be handing out the food in the motel during episode II.

First time around:

First to receive food was Clem, for obvious reasons

Next was Ducky, because, as much as I wasn't a huge fan, he was still just a kid and I thought it'd win Kenny's approval (it did)

After this, I fed Carley, as I liked her

Finally, I decided to feed Larry. This wasn't out of any sense of liking him so much as it was keeping my enemies close. Mark didn't seem best pleased (he was standing right next to him). The game rewarded me with a 'you made a difficult decision'. I thought it would win Lily's approval, but it didn't seem to.

Mark received nothing as, although he complained the most and was introduced a little earlier, I had no idea who he was. Same with Ben. Kenny and Katjaa would understand me giving food to the kids, I felt, and thus would be OK without being fed.

Next time around:

Once again, Clem and Duck will be first.

After this will be Kenny. This is simply because I knew he'll be sticking around for a long time, and has a tendency to remember everything.

Finally will be Ben as, once again, I know he's in it for the long haul.

I'll be interested in seeing how people react to me feeding the newcomer before them.

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  • @Rock114 said: I always take the supplies from the car now, because Episode 5 doesn't make any goddamn sense to me if I don't, which I didn't on my original save. Funny story though, I got my saves wiped when Episode 5 came out, and when I got to that point in my replay, I almost decided to take them. "What the hell, it's not like this will ever matter beyond Clem looking cool with the hoodie" I said to myself. Boy was I glad I left them like I did originally, even if it didn't make much sense for him to question every single thing I did simply because my bro took his food.

    Other than that, I don't really change up many things unless I'm trying to see what happens differently. I like the way my original game went very much, and it's kind of weird to play with more than a couple choices changed.

    He knows what you did because Clem told him (makes you be careful around Clemmy lol). It is a way to show there is no right way to do things. You can only do so much, and terrible experiences show the worst in people. While Stranger can say how many mistakes and bad judgement you made, you have to realize he's a lunatic that will say he isn't a man of revenge just before talking about killing you and taking Clem from you... as revenge. lol.

  • On my second playthrough, I took a hard line against Lilly since I know siding with her would not help me down the road, back Kenny up on EVERYTHING, and made sure Ben was swimming with the fishes.

  • @Mark$man said: He knows what you did because Clem told you (makes you be careful around Clemmy lol). It is a way to show there is no right way to do things. You can only do so much, and terrible experiences show the worst in people. While Stranger can say how many mistakes and bad judgement you made, you have to realize he's a lunatic that will say he isn't a man of revenge just before talking about killing you and taking Clem from you... as revenge. lol.

    I know he's a lunatic, but I still hate him trying to murder me for something I didn't even do. I will never tell him I would have done something differently. I said that I "protected her in that place" when he called me out for killing Danny St John, and told him that "he wasn't there" when he called me on abandoning Lilly. Didn't make much sense since I hadn't done anything to him, so I decided to MAKE it make sense.

  • @Rock114 said: I know he's a lunatic, but I still hate him trying to murder me for something I didn't even do. I will never tell him I would have done something differently. I said that I "protected her in that place" when he called me out for killing Danny St John, and told him that "he wasn't there" when he called me on abandoning Lilly. Didn't make much sense since I hadn't done anything to him, so I decided to MAKE it make sense.

    You're acting like crazy people should always be calm and rational. :p

    Seriously though, the Stranger is grief stricken man who lost his entire family. At first he probably just wanted revenge against the people who took from him, like he said. But once he talked to Clementine over the radio enough times he changed his mind. She obviously made him think about his own daughter and how badly he wanted a family again.

    Somewhere along the line he decided he wanted Clementine, and once he made that decision he had to justify it to himself. He had to rationalize things so he could feel confident in what he was going to do, because what he was doing was horrible. So the only way he could go through with it was to paint Lee or anyone as a monster, irregardless of who those people really were.

    A lot of the stuff he says about Lee he's really saying about himself. He's projecting his own failures onto Lee as a way to cope with the guilt of his own mistakes. To say "Maybe I made a mistake, but I didn't do this like you did!" But he wanted to kill people who hurt him purely for revenge, he lies to Clementine and takes her away from her family, he failed to protect his loved ones, he blames others for the loss of his family to make it easier to forget that he lost his son before anyone ever stole from him.

    Part of him probably realized this, which is why he was so desperate to call Lee he a monster. He NEEDED for him to be a monster so he wouldn't feel like one by comparison. He couldn't accept responsibility for his own mistakes so he painted someone else as a greater evil. Then he could look at that person and say to himself "I'm not that guy! I didn't do that! I'm not like him!" to satisfy his warped lingering sense of morality. It's also why he mentions being a dad and coaching little league, anything to distract himself from his own misdeeds.

    It's also why he brings up Clementine's birthday. He can't really accept the reality of the situation he's in so he grasps as straws. "Forgetting a kid's birthday is unforgivable!" Ignoring that six days ago Clementine was probably worried about bandits coming out of the forest and killing her. It's for that same reason he even wanted Clementine, so he could think he's a family again and delude himself into thinking everything was normal.

    And his desire for that comforting delusion was stronger than anything else. That's why there's no reasoning with him, he wants to escape the horrors of the world so bad he'll do anything, and he sees that escape in adopting Clementine. And since he's convinced himself he isn't a bad guy, it means anyone who'd stop him from achieving that must be wrong. Because if that wasn't the case, then that would mean he really is a monster, and there's no way that could be...

  • @Jaded X Gamer said: And since he's convinced himself he isn't a bad guy, it means anyone who'd stop him from achieving that must be wrong. Because if that wasn't the case, then that would mean he really is a monster, and there's no way that could be...

    :O Plot twisssssssst.

  • Well my first playthrough: I saved Duck, helped Lilly with Larry, spared the St. John's and save Ben. I was satisfied with my ending, although Kenny pissed me off for abandoning my ass =.=

    I went pro-Kenny on my 2nd playthrough: saved Duck, kill Larry, killed both the brothers and dropped Ben.. Felt like sh*t after playing it, Kenny took so much pride in me joining him with all his horrible choices =.= loved the bro speech though, they were both assholes together x)

  • You didn't ALWAYS have to side with Kenny, and if at first he doesn't want to go with you, the "Clem is all I have left, she's my family" reponse will almost always get him to go with you. I don't drop Ben, even though he is nothing but a liability. I don't help Lilly at all though, sorry to her. And I don't kill the St. John's for moral reasons and because it upsets Clem.

  • If you piss Kenny off too much he will refuse to go with you no matter what you say. If you say "Clem is my family now" he'll threaten to kick your ass for even mentioning family in his presence. :p

    I think the meat locker decision is guaranteed to always place him in a neutral side, i.e. you'll never get the bro speech if you try to save Larry. Well, maybe if you side with him on everything else....

  • I never changed my first choice because in my opinion is my real choice. It's not fun for me if you change your FIRST choice. Sometimes you don't know what will happen if you do some choice and it could be a mistake that you can't solve without change it later, that's why it's the real choice. Sometimes you don't realize the consequences of a choice that's why some people change them later, but I don't because it's not fun in games like this.

  • @Mornai said: If you piss Kenny off too much he will refuse to go with you no matter what you say. If you say "Clem is my family now" he'll threaten to kick your ass for even mentioning family in his presence. :p

    I think the meat locker decision is guaranteed to always place him in a neutral side, i.e. you'll never get the bro speech if you try to save Larry. Well, maybe if you side with him on everything else....

    Actually I've seen one playthrough where someone got the bro speech after trying to save Larry. He dropped Ben though and I think sided with Kenny on most everything else.

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