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How about someone like Ben as a new Protagonist?

posted by Chanut_N on - last edited - Viewed by 733 users

Ben 2.00 as a new protagonist in Season 2.

The game will force you to decide between the most moronic solutions. Which stupid way would you choose? Something like that.

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  • As long as we're on the subject of Ben, did anyone love the scene of everybody coming back to find the boat was gone and Ben was still there? Unless you bring everyone but Ben, you know that the boat gets taken no matter what, but if Ben is the only one who stayed behind, he just looks sad because he knows how bad the image of him standing in front of the empty garage must look.

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  • @CarScar said:
    Press Y to: cut off his leg
    Press X to: faint
    Press B to: run away
    Press A to: cut his stupid head off.

    well i'd give it a miss (if it was free then yeah i'd play it) but i hAtE ben so much..

    if they did that the game would be funny for the first few times but then it'll be lame, boring and dumb.

    if we know going in he/she going to be a total retard, it removes the mystery..

    and in some way i don't think it'll do ttg 'street cred' any good either..considering all the complaints people threw out of their prams about the first season.

    why go from a serious dark game and turn it into a clown show with walkers ?

  • @Milosuperspesh said: well i'd give it a miss (if it was free then yeah i'd play it) but i hAtE ben so much..

    if they did that the game would be funny for the first few times but then it'll be lame, boring and dumb.

    if we know going in he/she going to be a total retard, it removes the mystery..

    and in some way i don't think it'll do ttg 'street cred' any good either..considering all the complaints people threw out of their prams about the first season.

    why go from a serious dark game and turn it into a clown show with walkers ?

    Aw, c'mon now. I can't be the only person on this thread that liked Ben! lol I admit, he fucked up a lot, a LOT, and me and the hubby had a disagreement on the issue. (I think I actually guilted him into saving Ben on accident lol.) He was a kid in a society that told him he was a kid. The ZA hit and he was a good kid with absolutely no preparation whatsoever.
    I get that months passed and that he was a coward, but I think he was trying to find out what it was to be a man, in a group where he was still treated like a kid (through his own doing), where he felt resented and unwelcomed.
    I also saw the value (and this sounds bad and probably is bad, but it's true) in having a boy around Clem's age. Give them a few years. She's 15 and he's ...what? 24-ish? Not at all kosher nowadays, but in the ZA, finding yourself a mate is going to be difficult. It would be a lot less disturbing than say, Lee or Kenny (or someone in that age group) dating her.

    I hope for a younger character like Ben, but with balls, even if she's a chick. lmao

  • @Desmodus87 said: Aw, c'mon now. I can't be the only person on this thread that liked Ben! lol I admit, he fucked up a lot, a LOT, and me and the hubby had a disagreement on the issue. (I think I actually guilted him into saving Ben on accident lol.) He was a kid in a society that told him he was a kid. The ZA hit and he was a good kid with absolutely no preparation whatsoever.
    I get that months passed and that he was a coward, but I think he was trying to find out what it was to be a man, in a group where he was still treated like a kid (through his own doing), where he felt resented and unwelcomed.
    I also saw the value (and this sounds bad and probably is bad, but it's true) in having a boy around Clem's age. Give them a few years. She's 15 and he's ...what? 24-ish? Not at all kosher nowadays, but in the ZA, finding yourself a mate is going to be difficult. It would be a lot less disturbing than say, Lee or Kenny (or someone in that age group) dating her.

    I hope for a younger character like Ben, but with balls, even if she's a chick. lmao

    I think forum regulars know I hate Ben. ;)

    For me, the "he's just a kid" argument doesn't fly. He's seen crazy crap at the gymnasium when Jenny went walker on them, his camp raided by bandits, his teacher's leg get chopped off as walkers swarmed them, cannibals at a farm, etc. Just how much more does a person need to toughen up?

    Fact of the matter is, no one was prepared for a ZA. Sure, some would cope better than others like trained soldiers who still have to watch their own buddies turn. But in a universe where zombies don't even exist in their fiction, a lot of people are basically starting at the same spot. Heck, any sort of collapse of civilization is a new experience for pretty much anyone living in the First World. In other words, Ben isn't some special snowflake.

    I also hate Ben's whining about how he doesn't know what happened to his parents, and therefore he was allowed to be an emo-screw up. Guess what? So did others. For instance, Carley didn't know what happened to her family and she was one the most stable and valuable members of the group. When Ben snapped at Kenny at Savannah, I wanted to slap him in the face.

    And Ben ain't a little kid. If he wanted to improve himself and prove that he could be useful, maybe he could ask for help back at the motor inn. Ask Lee or Kenny for advice. Ask Carley to teach him how to shoot. He has to take some responsibility.

    And to betray the people that saved your life by giving the bandits supplies? Unforgivable.

    My final assessment of Ben is that he is an incompetent coward and a leech. He's willing to live off the group but incapable and often unwilling to give back.

    As for your comment about Clem and Ben being, um, mates...yeah, just no. I'm not gonna touch this one. :D

  • I liked Ben to an extent, and I knew how he felt. He wasn't reliable, but he was a person nonetheless. I saved his life in ep4, and it sucked he died in ep5. As for being a mate to Clem... Wtf? Just... What? Noooooooo. He nearly got her killed like twice, and let her run off many times over when he was supposed to watch her. At the very end of ep 4 is where I wanted to strangle him for letting Clem walk off. I'd have rather had Duck be in a relationship with Clem, and I hated that kid for being annoying. I didn't dislike him as much as most, but I mean the kid can get on your nerves. But I like him much more than Ben, and he was even more useful.

  • I don't want to play someone who is basically me in a Zombie apocalypse...

  • @double_u said: And to betray the people that saved your life by giving the bandits supplies? Unforgivable.

    Really? So, lemme ask you? Does that mean you didn't forgive Clementine for doing almost exactly the same thing? She betrayed an entire group of people who had been taking care of her for months because a mystery man on her radio, whom she knows nothing about, claims to have her parents (but offers no proof), so she decides to run off with him when Lee says there isn't time to look for her parents and almost everyone dies in the process of saving her from an obvious kidnapper.

    And I never get tired of Ben telling Kenny off. The man had become almost as bad as Lilly for a while. He wanted to ditch Omid after he was injured getting rid of the tanker that blocked the way. He wants to ditch Molly after she saved his life. If you don't "have his back" he'll want to ditch Lee too and by extension Clementine. For me it's always worth it to drag the kid along just because he finally helps Kenny realize he's not the only one suffering from this.

  • @Jaded X Gamer said: Really? So, lemme ask you? Does that mean you didn't forgive Clementine for doing almost exactly the same thing? She betrayed an entire group of people who had been taking care of her for months because a mystery man on her radio, whom she knows nothing about, claims to have her parents (but offers no proof), so she decides to run off with him when Lee says there isn't time to look for her parents and almost everyone dies in the process of saving her from an obvious kidnapper.

    Are you comparing the mindset of Clem and Ben? Why?

    Did I feel betrayed? Yes. Did I forgive her? Yes. Comparing Ben and Clem doesn't work, because unlike Ben, Clem is actually a child-a first grader- whose psychology hasn't reached the level of maturity to completely understand her actions.

    Just because an action is similar does not make their mentality similar.

  • @double_u said: Are you comparing the mindset of Clem and Ben? Why?

    Did I feel betrayed? Yes. Did I forgive her? Yes. Comparing Ben and Clem doesn't work, because unlike Ben, Clem is actually a child-a first grader- whose psychology hasn't reached the level of maturity to completely understand her actions.

    Just because an action is similar does not make their mentality similar.

    You're the one who said the "jut a kid argument" didn't fly for Ben because he had already seen so much fucked up shit. But it flies for Clementine because she's younger, even though she's seen and understands pretty much all the same shit Ben has and demonstrates a level of mental maturity close to if not greater than Ben?

    Their "mentality" was the same. Someone clearly not trustworthy tells them they have their loved one and they did something really stupid because their desire to save the people they care most about overwrote their common sense (albeit in Ben's case he probably didn't have a lot of that to begin with). Clementine understood what she did was wrong afterwards. I know because when you get her back she says the exact same thing Ben said after the bandit raid.

    "I'm sorry."

    As far as I'm concerned, Ben and Clem were both kids who needed protecting and a good parental figure to guide them. The biggest difference was Clem had a good guardian with Lee, Ben was mostly on his own.

  • really comparing clem to ben ? seriously ?

    but clem had a radio, she wanted her parents to be ok she did NOT steal from the group...

    as you say clem shows more maturity then ben she shows some smarts ben only showed some smarts when he rages on kenny...

    a lie with minimal consquences is nothing compared to open betrayal and stealing meds..

    yes the group or who ever is on lee's side go after clem, but did she go willingly ? why was her cap left who's blood was on the ground.. why was the walker hidden ??

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