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Play as Lily in the upcoming interquel?

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Telltale stated that they would release something to help tide us over until season 2 is released. If that something is a game, then I think Lily should be the main character.

Like her or hate her, Lily was a pretty interesting character with both assets and flaws to her personality, which make her complex, which make her easy to relate to. Even if you hated her actions, we all can understand where she was coming from when she did it. it would be a true shame for Telltale to let this character fall to the wayside when her story is practically begging to be told.

The interquel could began where Lily's story ended in season 1. This could lead to her being one of the two characters Clementine see's in the distance at the end of season 1.

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  • @zev_zev said: Wow, so brutality, do you want to vengeance for Vernon so much as you want retribution to Lilly? Bacause for me what Vernon did is too much worse then what Lilly did. I'm really ready to forgive Lilly, but Vernon goes too far.

    How is what Vernon did worse? Lilly directly killed someone for no good reason. Vernon stole a boat to protect his own group of people. Not having a boat did not kill Lee's group. A bullet in the face did kill Carley/Doug. At worst, Vernon took away a pipe dream that Kenny more or less forced the group to go along with.

  • @BlackBoxx said: How is what Vernon did worse? Lilly directly killed someone for no good reason. Vernon stole a boat to protect his own group of people. Not having a boat did not kill Lee's group. A bullet in the face did kill Carley/Doug. At worst, Vernon took away a pipe dream that Kenny more or less forced the group to go along with.


    I am sure that Vernon would have killed those who were left to guard the boat if Vernon was armed, and if those who guarded the boat resisted too much.

  • @Mark$man said:
    You say she shows guilt. Does she? Or does she show shock she did it and was upset because she knew what was coming next. Did you see Carley's face? Doug's? Ben's, Kenny's, and especially Lee's? She wasn't feeling guilty, she was scared because of what'd she'd done. It wasn't okay about Lee's past, which she will reveal in everyone's faces no matter how you acted to her. Even if you defended her. She leaves them all to die in the middle of nowhere without a mode of transportation. lol She really feels guilty huh?


    Both, and she left for surivival. She didn't want to die.

    And again, as I've said multiple times, if she was indeed crazy which she knew she was losing it, why was she still leading the group? Why was she handling a firearm? When you are in distress, you sit back and get your act together. Yes, it is an apocalypse; I know there will be little time to rest and relax, but it had to be done.


    So your argument is that you expect someone losing their mind to make rational decisions?

    It was pre-meditated.


    There wasn't enough time for that to be a pre-meditated murder.

    It's inhuman to leave her? That's true. They should have shot her. A 'death penalty'. To let her simply leave after killing someone wouldn't be fair would it?
    You can't send her to a mental institution, nor can you take her to a prison. You can't just tie her up and drag her with you. But letting her go could cause problems later on. What if she became a danger to the group? What if she became a walker and got another person killed? So leaving her would be considered a service to Lilly. Lee was allowed to have a second chance, but it wasn't with his family nor his wife. Same with Lilly, she must find her own way. Consider me inhumane or bloodthirsty, but I consider it right. There is a certain line for redemption, which she crossed by far.


    The way I saw it, Lily was the group's responsibility. She might have been paranoid but she'd worked to keep the group alive. She only started to lose it after the group murdered her father. You can argue it was for survival but her decline was a result of our decision so whatever she did next was on us. That's the way I saw it.

    And saying she wouldn't go around killing people is a ridiculous statement as pertaining to before the apocalypse. She was in the Air Force. You don't know her past, and her future was set to kill even more innocent people. She was linked to the comics(not anymore) and killed a mother and child. Her father was an Army Commander, and undoubtedly killed many people. Lilly carries the same characteristics of her father, moreso his temper.


    I've only just read that comic. I got the first compendium second arrived this morning. The woodbury citizens were conned by the governor into attacking the prison. They thought the people in the prison had murdered their people. When that Lily shot that mother she was under the impression she was an enemy assailant and when she saw that woman was holding a baby she flipped out and executed the governor for his manipulation.

    If Kenny did survive for me the most interesting scenario would be that it's him and Lilly on that mountain. At this point they've both lost everything and argubably as a result of each other. That dynamic would be interesting and I could see them both wanting to protect Clementine as the only surviving member of their original group. I think it could be cool playing things from both their perspectives with both playable.

  • @zev_zev said: I am sure that Vernon would have killed those who were left to guard the boat if Vernon was armed, and if those who guarded the boat resisted too much.

    Vernon was armed. That's how his people were able to take the boat, even if Kenny, Ben, Christa and Omid are there to defend it. The weapons were simply a deterrent. Vernon could have easily killed one of them, but didn't. All he wanted was the boat.

    Even if there was a fight and someone did get killed, Vernon had a valid reason. He knew there was a boat. He knew it worked, thanks to Kenny working on it. He saw it as a chance of survival for his entire group, so he went for it. Losing it meant that Lee's group would have to carry on same as they have been. No better, no worse. That's not to say I'm not angry at Vernon for his double-cross, but he wasn't in the wrong for doing it.

    On the other hand, Lilly actually steals the one thing that saved the group's life earlier that day; the RV. Without it, the group is stranded. They had no idea that they could operate a train at that point. She placed her own safety (which wasn't even at risk) over the rest of the group after she had been given a chance to make up for the atrocity she just committed. That is worse than a man (who risked his life and lost a close friend while trying to help a stranger get his own group supplies) taking a vehicle that neither group has a full claim of while making sure to avoid causing any lasting harm to the opposition.

  • If telltale really wants to be lazy they could do the months between ep 1 and 2 which I believe they said at one point they started planning to show how Mark was picked up but then scratched it. I personally would not mind seeing what happened to Lilly because I actually liked her. People only irrationally hate her because she killed Carley. I imagine if there were no other adult female they would feel differently. Yes, she killed her OR Doug but I do feel she was in a really bad place and Carley was being very antagonistic.

  • @blanchett said: If Kenny did survive for me the most interesting scenario would be that it's him and Lilly on that mountain. At this point they've both lost everything and argubably as a result of each other. That dynamic would be interesting and I could see them both wanting to protect Clementine as the only surviving member of their original group. I think it could be cool playing things from both their perspectives with both playable.

    I don't know. Kenny's pretty impulsive. When he found out Ben was responsible for Katjaa and Duck's deaths, he attacked him outright. As for Lilly...they didn't exactly part on the best of terms either. To make Kenny not do the same to Lilly, she'd have to be in really bad shape by the time he finds her. (The chances of this happening are awfully slim, anyway. Lilly was far away from Savannah at the time she left the group, and Telltale might think having them reunite would be too much of a coincidence.)

    I don't think there's any force on Earth that could stop Kenny from tearing Vernon apart if he saw him again.

  • @aperose said: If telltale really wants to be lazy they could do the months between ep 1 and 2 which I believe they said at one point they started planning to show how Mark was picked up but then scratched it. I personally would not mind seeing what happened to Lilly because I actually liked her. People only irrationally hate her because she killed Carley. I imagine if there were no other adult female they would feel differently. Yes, she killed her OR Doug but I do feel she was in a really bad place and Carley was being very antagonistic.

    I don't know for other people, but I've never 'liked' Lilly. She's just not a likeable character. She tries to be a leader and yet cares more over her father than the group(which I'd be okay with if she wasn't leader). She always takes a more aggresive approach to solving matters, such as the attack on the bandits and the violent outbursts on others. She is also very defensive of her father(which I understand somewhat) but when Larry threatens others and starts his temper isn't she partially responsible to calm him down? That would have stopped his heart attack, right? I disliked the fact that no matter what you do for her she is angry at you, blames you for situations you had no control over, and leaves you and the group to die if you forgive her and let her back in the RV. She kills another group member in cold blood and causes paranoia and stress to the others. I feel like she treats the people who have helped her and her father like shit for little reason. I understand her grief and sorrow, and I forgave some of her outbursts toward other people, but isn't there a certain limit?

    I know I prefered Carley over Doug, but does it really matter about the sexuality of it? She was a female, yeah, and I admit I hoped Lee would have a relationship in the game. Doesn't mean I saved Carley for those reasons. I tried to save them both, and after playing both sides, Carley's is much better, and frankly you get closer to her as a person. Doug's a cool guy though. Shame either of them die.

    Carley pressured her, yes. But didn't Lilly first? She was just trying to defend herself. Same as Ben. Lilly was being antagonistic toward her/Ben since the moment she stepped in the RV(or close to it). Carley and/or Ben never pull a gun out on her.

    I can't say I liked her for killing Carley, but that wasn't why I hate her as a character. And hate is a strong word. I don't know if I'd like to see her in a interqual, but I wouldn't want her as a playable character. And now that she is an 'original' character, if she returns in season 2 I MIGHT be able to forgive what she did, just as I forgave Ben's actions, and liked him till his end.
    I'd like to see episode 1.5 just because I liked Mark. I liked him more than Doug, really. But I think other choices of storyline'd be preferable.

  • @blanchett said: If Kenny did survive for me the most interesting scenario would be that it's him and Lilly on that mountain. At this point they've both lost everything and argubably as a result of each other. That dynamic would be interesting and I could see them both wanting to protect Clementine as the only surviving member of their original group. I think it could be cool playing things from both their perspectives with both playable.

    First off, it's nice to meet a fellow Lily supporter. Second, I too suggested this earlier. Kenny and Lily play pretty well off each other, and that makes them both entertaining and realistic. Kenny will most likely want to protect Clem to honor his fallen friend Lee. As for Lily, she know's she killed Carly/Doug, and she most likely feels guilty for what just may be the biggest mistake of her life. However, even though she made that mistake, Lee chose not to kill her. He either left her on the side of the road, or brought her back in the RV, but again, Lee chose not to kill her despite the fact that most people would have, and I think Lily realizes that. To honor Lee, she would protect Clem with her life. At least that's how I see it, and that's if the two people walking in the distance at the end of season one are Kenny and Lily. Fingers crossed.

  • I would have liked Lilly a lot more if he apologized for what she had done. Instead she said:

    "She couldn't be trusted. Lee, please."

    Trying to rationalize what she had done. Damnit Lilly...

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