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The St. johns might have caused Lee's death

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Think about it.
After listening to unused audio clips, it's proven that the St. Johns brothers planted the bear trap that grabbed David's leg. So, that means that if they HADN'T done that, we never would have heard him screaming, and we never would have met Ben.
Also, if we never met the St. Johns, Mark never would have been killed, nor Larry.
With Larry alive, Lily never would have snapped and shot Carley/Doug.
Also, Larry/Mark might have helped during the Bandit attack in episode 3 and possibly stopped duck from getting bitten.

Ben caused Carley/Doug, Katjaa, Duck, Kenny (By loss of will to live), Chuck, and Brie.
We can cross out Carley/Doug, Katjaa, Duck and Kenny, and that means that Chuck and Brie would have lived.

So, in conclusion, with all these characters alive, things might have turned out better for Lee and Clementine.

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  • @Sutinen said: If that police officer didn't turn the radio off in the beginning, he never would have crashed his car, he would have gone to the very same prison Rick's group found. It is possible that he never would have made it to the cafeteria too, he might have gotten himself in middle of a massacre.

    Naw Lee would have survived the prison, it's Lee were talking about.

  • @Yertos said: Naw Lee would have survived the prison, it's Lee were talking about.

    Prisoners in the cell were shot dead while alive. He most likely wouldn't have made it, unless he escaped through the downed wall. I wouldn't want him at the cafeteria, because I'd rather him dead than have to deal wit that shit

  • @marioluigi344 said: Think about it.
    After listening to unused audio clips, it's proven that the St. Johns brothers planted the bear trap that grabbed David's leg. So, that means that if they HADN'T done that, we never would have heard him screaming, and we never would have met Ben.
    Also, if we never met the St. Johns, Mark never would have been killed, nor Larry.
    With Larry alive, Lily never would have snapped and shot Carley/Doug.
    Also, Larry/Mark might have helped during the Bandit attack in episode 3 and possibly stopped duck from getting bitten.

    Ben caused Carley/Doug, Katjaa, Duck, Kenny (By loss of will to live), Chuck, and Brie.
    We can cross out Carley/Doug, Katjaa, Duck and Kenny, and that means that Chuck and Brie would have lived.

    So, in conclusion, with all these characters alive, things might have turned out better for Lee and Clementine.

    No, brothers themselves came to the motel for gas.

    Think about this: if a police would officer watching the road, and not talking with Lee, Lee would have had a chance to survive in prison together with Thomas, Axel, Oscar and other prisoners. (although the cop told Lee about Thomas) And perhaps Rick would kill him as Thomas and Oscar (retribution for Hershel's girls), or he would have stayed with the Rick's group But Clementine would have died like the boy in the attic in episode 4

  • Maybe
    but walker,s attack happend in just a moment so if there was 100000000 people that would not help Lee

  • Clementine killed Lee she was sad they could not look for her mom and dad and ran off.

  • @mrkareemruiz said: Clementine killed Lee she was sad they could not look for her mom and dad and ran off.

    Carley/Doug killed Lee, they gave Clementine the batteries for the walkie talkie, causing her kidnapping by the stranger. :rolleyes:

    Really, she didn't run off, or her hat wouldn't be on the ground.

  • @Mornai said: Carley/Doug killed Lee, they gave Clementine the batteries for the walkie talkie, causing her kidnapping by the stranger. :rolleyes:

    Really, she didn't run off, or her hat wouldn't be on the ground.

    I assume she contacted the stranger over the radio and went to meet him in the yard after Lee fell asleep. Then in talking to him in person either figured out he wasn't good or he didn't actually have her parents and that's when he grabbed her.

    He clearly did kidnap her but I'm pretty sure only after she went to meet him in some fashion. Otherwise her saying she was sorry after you get her back doesn't make much sense.

  • What a spanner in the works...

  • @Jaded X Gamer said: I assume she contacted the stranger over the radio and went to meet him in the yard after Lee fell asleep. Then in talking to him in person either figured out he wasn't good or he didn't actually have her parents and that's when he grabbed her.

    He clearly did kidnap her but I'm pretty sure only after she went to meet him in some fashion. Otherwise her saying she was sorry after you get her back doesn't make much sense.

    Clementine was out in the yard exploring by herself before, so she could have been doing the same thing, then the stranger appears(he already proved that he can waltz up to the gate unannounced), climbed the gate and took her away.

    She also could have been apologizing for not telling Lee about the stranger as soon as she found him, rather than waiting all the way until Savannah.

    Since the walkie-talkie is out there though, it does look like she met with him willingly.

  • @DreadMagus said: Just think... if Lee had never killed that senator he'd never of been in that police cruiser - never got in the accident, never met clem, never did (forward through chapters 1-5) and then never died.

    Lee is the master of his own fate.

    Basically this

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