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TWD TV - That Season 3 ending...

posted by Phil_TWD on - last edited - Viewed by 727 users

I honestly was expecting the governor (Philip) to be killed but nope, Andrea, that kid, the crew who was with him pretty much were all dead because of him or his actions.

It was unsatisfying and this is Andrea's fault mainly, because if she had slit his throat while he was asleep only he would have died.

Oh yeah, since they were awaiting them at the prison they could've locked them down and shot them all like a bunch of walkers, and/or throw grenades to blow them up if they had any left.

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  • @JakeSt123 said: So... over the course of the season we lost potential-fueled characters who could have helped the group in various ways(Axel, Oscar, Merle, Allen, Ben, Milton) and gained a school bus full of liabilities (Fat kid, guy-with-sort-of-Dale-looking-hat etc.)
    I was kind of hoping the group would become a series of hardcore soldiers, not a freakin' daycare service.



    Well, Ben didn't have any real potential; nobody named Ben in the Walking Dead does. I mean, seriously, the only notable thing Ben did was to use his face to block a bullet with the governor's name on it.

    Everybody else though, yeah. I mean, I didn't see Milton exactly becoming a hardass anytime soon, but I could see him certainly being useful. Not everyone can be Rambo (nor should they).

    Hell, I'd be really surprised if the old people and kids were there for anything other than fodder for a future massacre (whether it be caused by the governor, walkers, whatever).

  • @Rommel49 said: Well, Ben didn't have any real potential; nobody named Ben in the Walking Dead does. I mean, seriously, the only notable thing Ben did was to use his face to block a bullet with the governor's name on it.


    At least he knew how to use a gun, though, huh?

    @Rommel49 said: Everybody else though, yeah. I mean, I didn't see Milton exactly becoming a hardass anytime soon, but I could see him certainly being useful. Not everyone can be Rambo (nor should they).

    I like how they hinted at a friendship between Hershel and Milton, and it amounted to nothing. Aborted arc, much? XD

  • @8Bit_System said: If it was the right decision... Do you truely want to tell me that the decision to kill a man should be made by a ten year old and not by Hershel standing right next to him?



    If Hershel's unwilling to shoot the kid (for whatever reason), why not? It doesn't matter who makes the decision to shoot the kid. Likewise, Carl's age is irrelevant to it being the right call.

    The only thing that is relevant is the decision itself and whether it's justifiable based on the evidence (and again, it was). That's it, not who makes that decision, not the age of the person who makes it, etc. all that's logically fallacious, it's chaff; a distraction.

  • @corruptbiggins said: So the problem was over hyping by AMC.

    Well, there's a surprise. A network trying to get more viewers by bigging up an episode.

    Don't believe network/corporate spiel.



    Well to some extent yes, but a lot of the hype for this episode was within the show itself, not just in it's advertising.

    I should stress it wasn't that it was a bad episode, there was good emotion/character development, anywhere else in the season i would have really liked it, but for the big moment that that the better part of 15 episodes had been building up to, to last about 15 seconds, with an effortless victory for the prison, makes it a bad finale. It had a very "that was it?" feeling to it.

  • @The Fallen said: Well to some extent yes, but a lot of the hype for this episode was within the show itself, not just in it's advertising.

    I should stress it wasn't that it was a bad episode, there was good emotion/character development, anywhere else in the season i would have really liked it, but for the big moment that that the better part of 15 episodes had been building up to, to last about 15 seconds, with an effortless victory for the prison, makes it a bad finale. It had a very "that was it?" feeling to it.



    I was hoping it would go on like it had for the first 15 minutes, with Martinez blowing shiz up, Allen and Shupert on the mounted guns as well as the Governor going into the prison and getting into a direct battle with Rick and/or Daryl.

    Rick Vs Governor knife fight would have been amazing.

    By the way, a S4 character by the name of Roy Stark is being cast as a series regular. He seems a bit like Abraham Ford.

  • I'm hoping for the next season that we might seeing a trouble storyline with Tyrese, Michonne & Sasha. Tyrese & Michonne start some flirting but Sasha doesn't like it since her brother do more love instead caring for the group.

    On the other hand a love triangle story involving Glenn, Maggie & a yet unknown woman. The woman start to flirt with Glenn, but Maggie start to piss it off... the 3 argue the whole time and since Beth is close to her sister & also take care of Judith (baby) she could step up here & show finally a little bit of personality. Beth try to solve the problem but it does escalate since Beth do a "Carley" speech and get shot by the woman. Now we would have a "Lilly" situation where the group does have to decide where this lead to, if they throw her out of the group or let her in, making it for Rick a hard decision.

    We would have Hershel/Glenn/Maggie & Carl for sure beeing on the negative side and since Carl seems to try for having more balls like his father he is the 1st one for saying she should be throwed out.

  • The finale was a underwhelming experience to say the least.

  • @Rommel49 said: If Hershel's unwilling to shoot the kid (for whatever reason), why not? It doesn't matter who makes the decision to shoot the kid. Likewise, Carl's age is irrelevant to it being the right call.

    The only thing that is relevant is the decision itself and whether it's justifiable based on the evidence (and again, it was). That's it, not who makes that decision, not the age of the person who makes it, etc. all that's logically fallacious, it's chaff; a distraction.


    We could probably go on forever and never get to an agreement...

    In my eyes Carl killed that kid in cold blood, basing and justifing his decision based on childish conclusions, saying that people the group left alive earlier would always come back and kill someone. I see his point (from a childs point of view), still I don't agree... neither to his, nor to your points of view. Murder will never be the right way to go - not now, not in an apocalyptic scenario.

    I guess I'll rest it there... ;)

  • @8Bit_System said: We could probably go on forever and never get to an agreement...

    In my eyes Carl killed that kid in cold blood, basing and justifing his decision based on childish conclusions, saying that people the group left alive earlier would always come back and kill someone. I see his point (from a childs point of view), still I don't agree... neither to his, nor to your points of view. Murder will never be the right way to go - not now, not in an apocalyptic scenario.

    I guess I'll rest it there... ;)



    Even Carl's justification after the fact doesn't matter to it being the right call (though, given his experience, he's not exactly wrong); that's why I just look at the decision itself on its merits based on the evidence.

    Did shotgun kid have a loaded weapon in hand with his finger near the trigger? Yes. Did he demonstrate hostile intent? Yes, he had just taken part in the attack on the prison group. Did he refuse to comply with instructions when given the chance to surrender? Again, yes.

    Nobody's offered evidence to the contrary of those three points... Even today, if someone were acting like shotgun kid during a surrender? I wouldn't just be permitted to shoot him, I would be expected to shoot him.

  • @Clemmy1 said: I agree,it was really bad and hard to watch and spend 40 minutes watching.I invested in watching this series because of how well written it was,the finale episode summed up how bad season 3 was,and by the looks of things season 4 will be more of the same...



    From the looks of what? Have you seen any previews of S4 yet? Wait, there aren't any. They have a new showrunner crying out loud.

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