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Ending differences in ToMI Chapter 5 (Beta and Final Versions)

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I stumbled upon GameFAQs and came upon the screenshots from Tales of Monkey Island Chapter 5: Rise of the Pirate God, and I noticed some differences in the ending between the Beta and Final Versions of the game. In the Beta version, Elaine was still a demon bride when La Esponja Grande became small again, yet she turned on LeChuck and fought the skeletons. These screenshot links are proof of this:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/351/961265_20091218_screen022.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/351/961265_20091218_screen023.jpg

And yet her appearance became different in the Final version when she returned to her normal, brighter self, yet still in her black dress, as shown in the video link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LwrThKAQWo

Also, the ending is much different in the Beta version, when Elaine was still a demon bride in LeChuck's ship along with Winslow in the darkness even after Guybrush returned to life with her ring:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2009/351/961265_20091218_screen024.jpg

Yet this is much different than in the Final version, when the normal-self Elaine in her black dress is on the Screaming Narwhal with Winslow at sunrise as shown in the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDvSi122JmA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1naGEoyFV4k

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h195/angeldeb82/MonkeyIslandSeries/ToMI5RebornGuybrushandElaine.jpg

So I've been wondering how the programmers changed the ending from the Beta version to what is now in the Final version? :confused:

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  • Interesting that the demon form looks like a hybrid of Guybrush and Satan, rather then a green-skinned Guybrush with red eyes a la demon Elaine, or Guybrush with pale skin and flaming hair, like demon LeChuck.

  • The idea of Guybrush with a little flaming goatee is horribly amusing though.

  • The TT episodes are usually finished around the last couple of days prior to release

    I recall playin the "Beta" version of Abe Lincoln Must Die! during one of their opinion days or whatever it is called when they invite ppl to play for an opinion. I remember how some versions of the episode (depending which computer you were playing it on) didn't have the poll scene in one of the cutscenes.

  • About beta pictures Take Back to the future the game for example for the previews they used beta versions

    Episode 3-Marty talking to Biff outside the city gates
    George and Lorraine inside Marty's house when in the final version their house is locked up because of dust bunnys
    During the end of the preview we see Marty and First Citizen Brown talking in a dark room with just the light of the clock from the clock tower but in the final version the game they are in a different room where you see loads of stuff and this is Citizen Brown's office

    Episode 4. First we see Marty telling Jennifer about him being from a different timeline in Citizen Brown's office but in the final game he does not say this line to anyone and we never see Citizen Brown's office again.
    Then we see Citizen Brown lying down on a mat asking why? to Edna and she saying because your weak Emmett again we do not see this place in the final version. we see Emmett in the place where his rocket car was in episode 2. we see Emmett and Edna walking around the town square (again only able to go here for about 2 minutes and you can only walk from the courthouse to where Emmett is.
    Also Emmett and Edna are wearing their 1931 clothes from episodes 1 and 2 while in the final game they wear different clothes.

    So that might be why Elaine might still be in her Lechuck's Bride form and it's the same for episode 4 where Elaine and Guybrush are dancing outside of the pirate court in those pictures. it could be because those are beta pictures that Telltale used while still working on the games

  • @ryannumber1gamer said: About beta pictures Take Back to the future the game for example for the previews they used beta versions

    Episode 3-Marty talking to Marty outside the city gates
    George and Lorraine inside Marty's house when in the final version their house is locked up because of dust bunnys
    During the end of the preview we see Marty and First Citizen Brown talking in a dark room with just the light of the clock from the clock tower but in the final version the game they are in a different room where you see loads of stuff and this is Citizen Brown's office

    Episode 4. First we see Marty telling Jennifer about him being from a different timeline in Citizen Brown's office but in the final game he does not say this line to anyone and we never see Citizen Brown's office again.
    Then we see Citizen Brown lying down on a mat asking why? to Edna and she saying because your weak Emmett again we do not see this place in the final version. we see Emmett in the place where his rocket car was in episode 2. we see Emmett and Edna walking around the town square (again only able to go here for about 2 minutes and you can only walk from the courthouse to where Emmett is.
    Also Emmett and Edna are wearing their 1931 clothes from episodes 1 and 2 while in the final game they wear different clothes.

    So that might be why Elaine might still be in her Lechuck's Bride form and it's the same for episode 4 where Elaine and Guybrush are dancing outside of the pirate court in those pictures. it could be because those are beta pictures that Telltale used while still working on the games

    Don't forget about when Guybrush shows Noogie the picture of Sister Agnes while making a Pirate Face in front of him in TOMI Chapter 3. In the final version, he never shows Noogie the picture while making that face, as the nun picture is still pinned to Noogie's profile.

  • I never seen that pic the only beta pics i seen was the episode 5 ones that are posted here and that episode 4 one.

    Edit: I did see the beta pic from episode 3 i just didn't remember seeing it ;)

  • You know i was thinking but is it possible evil Guybrush concept art could be a overly poxed version of Guybrush that maybe was to show the effects of the pox getting worst on Guybrush who at the center of the blast of pox.

  • That's really interesting. I always thought that Chapter 5 would have Guybrush going through each of LeChuck's incarnations to be strong enough to fight him. So I was disappointed that we never went into demon form.

    The ending was amazing though, and it's one of my favorite Telltale games. Possibly tied with Sam and Max 3.

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