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Cross Statistic Analysis - Doug/Ben decision.

posted by NeonBlade on - last edited - Viewed by 647 users

So far we know that 76% of the Misandrists, Traditionalists, Feminists, and Sex Crazed Primates chose Carley in Episode 1, and only 23% chose to save Doug.

What I would love to see is the breakdown of those that saved Doug, when he died in his scenario with Ben.

How many of the those that saved Doug, chose to pull Ben up in the Bell Tower. I think that would be an interesting dynamic to analyse the psychology behind that decision.

I saved Doug and pulled Ben up....how many others did the same?

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  • I chose Carley because there was more interaction with her in the story than Doug, dont get me wrong, I liked Doug, but I chose him in my other save and he really wasn't that big in the story than Carley.

    I saved Ben, regardless of him fucking up everything, dropping him is just wrong, no matter what, you're assisting someone of suicide, and while there is a point of me letting someone kill themselves (Which is basically when they get bitten or they're too ill to survive and become a burden to the group, [Ben wasnt ill or bitten]) I would never let someone kill themselves because they think they fuck up all the time. Ben can redeem himself later on in life (Obviously that didnt happen, but if he never fell in EP. 5, I think he wouldve learned himself and become better) and not become a fuckup later on, but dropping someone to there death just because they mess up is just not right.

  • Saved Carley. Saved Ben.

    Picked Carley because she was one of the group to head outside and help Lee and co. in front of the drugstore. She also showed a great deal of trust in keeping Lee's past to herself.

    Pragmatically, she's the best shot of the group, and seems fairly level-headed.

    On Ben: He has a lot to answer for, but don't you think killing him (or letting him die, whatever) in Crawford of all places is a little bit theatrical?

    On a serious note, he never intended to hurt anyone. He's young and inexperienced. Stupid, even. But he wasn't going to die by my hand. Lee lives in a world where killing fellow human beings is not an unusual occurrence, and where the dead roam the Earth. It's no use putting another person in the ground over mistakes.

    Live Together, Die Alone.

  • I Saved Doug because she didnt know how to put batteries into a radio. And dropped Ben, because I just didnt want him to suffer more.

  • I saved carley and Ben the first time around, you interacted with carley so much more than doug in the first episode and I kind of just ended up liking her more than doug. I thought it was kind of harsh to drop Ben because I probably would have screwed up twice as much as he did in a zombie apocalypse :P

  • Saved Carley, dropped Ben.

    Also, nice to see the OP isn't biased in any way.

  • I saved Doug so really I had to pull up Ben...
    Doug sacrificed himself to save Ben I wasn't going to let the sacrifice of my favourite character be in vain

  • I saved Carley because of a number of reasons. Chief among them was that she saved my life twice beforehand, then I also figured she'd be more useful, what with her shooting skills and all, aaaaand yes, because she was an attractive female. If that makes me a feminist or a sex crazed primate or whatever, then so be it. Not that I have anything against Doug, in the time I got to know them before the choice, I liked both characters about as equally, but in the end I chose to save the girl. And I would probably do so in real life too, given a similar situation.

    Now about Ben... I didn't drop Ben, mostly because I figured that Carley's death wasn't directly his fault. He may have been indirectly responsible, but if it was Lilly, who is directly responsible, so I focused my anger over Carley's death on her (leaving her). Ben, I figured, meant well with his deal, in fact, the deal was a pretty good idea, his only fault was not sharing it with anyone else. Had the deal not been made, the bandits might have raided sooner and then who knows who'd have been killed. So no, when I was contemplating whether to drop Ben or not, the thought "he killed Carley" never crossed my mind, it was more of "we don't have space for him on the boat anyway". In the end, I decided to give him a chance.

    If I hadn't been a sex crazed primate, and picked Doug (making me, I suppose, the homosexual sex crazed primate, who fancies chubby nerds) I would have pulled Ben up without a second thought, since Doug basically sacrificed himself for Ben, so intentionally letting Ben die would make his sacrifice vain. I still would've left Lilly though.

  • I saved Doug, wasn't one of the most justified decisions I made, but he seemed to have better judgement.

    Ben was dead weight in more ways than one. I thought putting anyone else in danger for someone who never helped anyone, and couldn't fit on the boat with the people who helped fix all the problems he had caused, would have been something that very few people would have done in that situation. It just led me to believe that in a post-apocalyptic scenario, without knowledge that the original plan would fail, there was no way I should put everyone's life at risk keep him alive, especially when he couldn't defend himself and was the last person I'd want taking the space of someone who wasn't likely to get someone else killed.

    Then Molly decided she didn't want to come and I realised straight away I had to rewind it if I didn't want to bow my head in shame for the entire ending.

  • I saved Carley and pulled Ben up.

    Had Doug had more screen-time, more interaction with Lee, and invited himself with the "Rescue Glenn" mission, I would have picked him.

    I felt that the game was telling me to choose Carley, she was on the Episode 1 title cover for little reason other than hyping her appearance and Doug was nowhere in sight. All of her heroics was on-screen and Doug's heroics wasn't, and half of the time I forget that Doug's there because he doesn't show up as much on screen during cutscenes. I understand that Doug's is meant to be a passive character, but Telltale made him almost completely invisible unless spoken to, and I wasn't supposed to care about him at all.

    Seems unfair, but I had no reason to pick Doug as the time, and after wating Cryaotic's playthrough, I began to appreciate him more than Carley herself.

    And as for Ben, killing him would have meant that I agree with Crawford's ideals. Being disabled myself would mean that I will have to jump down along with Ben from the bell tower, break my legs, and get eaten alive. Seems fair since after all, that is what Crawford would have wanted.

  • Very good reason, Rickwalker, I caught on that dropping Ben is what Crawford would do, and becoming like them is the beginning of the end.

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