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Copyright claim from "Scale Lab" (?)

posted by The_Kzin on - Viewed by 4.5K users

With Season 2 just a few weeks(?) away, I thought it would be fun to do something like a "Let's Play". I am no "pro" in making videos ... I thought, I'll give it a try. Just for fun. ;-) So I uploaded the first part ... and got a copyright claim from "Scale Lab" a few hours later. It reads: "Visual content administered by: Scale Lab".

My questions now are: Who are those people? Do I have to be worried about my channel? And if i dispute it ... what can I put as my reasons for the dispute?

Sincerely, Kzin.

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    Glad things have worked out OK for you guys.

    Still, it's pretty absurd that this situation arose in the first place, isn't it?

    • I still don't understand what Scale Lab has to do with Youtube and policing gameplay uploads. They sound like a bunch of scam artists, regardless of how "nice" their replies are.

      • Agreed, somehow a lot of (business) people go crazy when they can get their hands on money and will do absurd things to obtain it.. I´m just glad it went the easy way this time. It could have gotten a lot worse and then it´s just you against a big business...

    • It only seems to have happened recently though to The play-through for season 1 I have a feeling they were trying to get the copyright so that they can claim the one for any Season 2 play-through and focus the search results only onto channels from their network because anyone NOT with them will be facing copyright claims.

      Making money by stacking search results well that is one way to do it. Honestly it is kind of a good strategy to use youtube to make money.

      However I don't really agree with what they have done it is kind of Mafia like by only directing results to channels under their network and tie up any independent channels with stupid copyright claims which means they get the views and ad revenue first.

      And when they get challenged they send a polite message saying "O sorry.... blah blah because of how youtube works... blah blah.... we will sort it out don't worry."

  • Hello all, i got this match too today, what do I have to do now? Just revise it? Or ignore? Where should I write the email?

  • So here's some clarification on these Content ID fraudsters: http://kotaku.com/youtube-copyright-chaos-continues-game-publishers-to-t-1481517758

    Yup, Scale Lab is full of shit and they're not alone.

  • So did anyone get the claim from Scale Lab removed yet? They put a claim on my first walking dead video and I contacted them two days ago. They said that they would take care of it, but still. Two days with no response? Should I just contact Telltale? And see if they will give me permission to upload videos? That way if this ever happens again I can just dispute them. Also I'm not monetizing any of my videos.

  • Tell Scale Lab to fuck off because only Telltale owns the Walking Dead not them so, also if they continue to harass you, report them to Youtube or something?

  • Well Scale Lab finally got back to me and they said that they did remove the claim and that it's now on YouTube to remove it. But so far nothing. So I decided to just dispute the claim. But now it says "Your dispute awaiting response by 01/11/14" WTF! Are you saying that I'm going to have to wait until 01/11/14 before they will review my dispute?! This is just getting annoying!

  • Alright, Some Youtubers have figured out A way of overcoming this, If you have your Mic Louder then the Gameplay Audio Youtubes crap system never picks it up, also remember to make your videos private before uploading.

  • you might want to get in contact with telltale to get clearance for the video game numerous reports state a number of home made walkthroughs video has been taken down and some of the big developers support home made video as long as you don;t profit from the video you should be fine

  • To clarify for some people, this is a largely automated system put in place very recently. Youtube bots are searching the videos and automatically flagging them based on whatever obscure copyright connection can be made. Asking telltale, or scale labs for that matter will most likely be unproductive as this is a system put in place and automated by youtube, and publishers have little control over it at the moment so even videos they are perfectly fine with are being flagged without any publisher approval. I am unsure how Scale Labs is related to TWD vids, but a number of other seemingly random companies have also been included in the automated flagging system. Its a common, far-reaching problem and I doubt a personal email to telltale will resolve this issue quickly, though I could be wrong.

  • After I send Scale Lab an email I got a reply that they would fix it. Only part 01 of my let's play had the claim and that disappeared after a while. Part 02 & 03 didn't get any claims so I guess they put me on some 'white list' in a CMS program (I'm thinking, do not know for sure). Today I uploaded part 04 and that got claimed by a MCN called Studio71. Send them an email today but it's not just Scale Lab anymore.. A week ago I send Telltale Games an email asking for permission. No reply yet. I'm not gonna dispute the claim on Youtube atm. I waited as well with scale lab. There's to much risk if your dispute fails. Try to mail the company and wait for a reply. If they don´t reply you can always dispute the claim but I believe you need some form of permission from Telltale Games to win that.

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