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Amazonnia
08/01/2009, 03:11 am
I'm a big fan of MI but this thing about bring out the game once per month totally got me off interest of playing. When I told my friends about this, they said that it was so stupid. Now we have to wait wait and wait. August 1st and still nothing.

For the futur, I will wait until it comes out in stores.
Sorry tellgames, i'm very disapointed.

Friar
08/01/2009, 03:17 am
I'm a big fan of MI but this thing about bring out the game once per month totally got me off interest of playing. When I told my friends about this, they said that it was so stupid. Now we have to wait wait and wait. August 1st and still nothing.

For the futur, I will wait until it comes out in stores.
Sorry tellgames, i'm very disapointed.

So you aren't a fan of episodic gameplay? Quite a few people are. You aren't missing out on anything due to it being episodic, as half the game isn't finished yet. I personally find that the whole series lends itself quite well to episodic gameplay (the originals came in chapters afterall)

Toothless Gibbon
08/01/2009, 03:24 am
It's a new concept for a lot of people and I was very sceptical at first too. Have to say now though, I think it works brilliantly! Just think of it like waiting for the next episode of your favourite tv show.

Tolkoto
08/01/2009, 03:30 am
Summary

"This is stupid because its different and i hate it."

Amazonnia
08/01/2009, 03:42 am
It's a new concept for a lot of people and I was very sceptical at first too. Have to say now though, I think it works brilliantly! Just think of it like waiting for the next episode of your favourite tv show.

Thanks for the positive views. I must, I need to wait over a month to see what's going to happen on my TV shows.

PirateUnwritten
08/01/2009, 03:48 am
I have to agree with Amazonnia. I hate this episode thingy and i HATE having to wait 1 month for the next chapter of the game. I rather have the full game right now....

BUT, they have not produced the whole game yet and i rather get bits of the full game instead of having to wait 1 year for the game to be completed.

smashing
08/01/2009, 03:49 am
For the futur, I will wait until it comes out in stores.
Sorry tellgames, i'm very disapointed.

You will definitely get a much more polished product then, with no notable bugs and no needless wait in between the episodes too.

But you would also need to refrain from coming here, as there will no doubt be trolls around to complain about how imperfect the game is, talkative posters who will inevitably give the plot away, endless in-game jokes that will probably just alienate you. It will also be an endless test of your faith of you fanaticism with Monkey Island, when everyone have already progress at around the same pace into the story, while you are waiting for the polished game to come out to the stores, probably a year from now. It will be about 4 months more if you order directly from Telltale.



Look at it the other way: episode gaming bring about a new kind of possibilities not possible in the past. We are all stranded here not knowing what is coming up next, but we still keep ourselves occupied with speculations, fan-projects or even just bickering to keep the passion with MI up. And the greatest thing is that there are actual stuff in this forum that have already been integrated into the first game. The possibility that your continual contributions here may end up inside the actual game is BIG!!!

der_ketzer
08/01/2009, 04:11 am
Nobody forces you to play the games when they are released. But you already payed. It's up to you if you play every episode when it comes out or if you wait until they are all available and start playing then.

Apple24
08/01/2009, 04:33 am
Look at it the other way: episode gaming bring about a new kind of possibilities not possible in the past.

I moment of honesty here - when I first heard I'd have to wait for months for the Sam & Max episodes, I waited till the end of the season and bought the DVD.
What I then realized is that half the fun is the wait between episodes, everything smashing talked about.
I love episodic gameplay now - and most of that is due to the fantastic Telltale community.

Stay with us, speculate a little. You end up getting much more out of the game.

S@bre
08/01/2009, 04:50 am
Could be worse. You could be waiting two years between instalments, as Valve make people do with their poorly implemented episodic model.

Purple Tentacle
08/01/2009, 04:56 am
I understand your frustrations of having to wait a month for the next episode to continue the story but I hardly see it as a reason to direct disappointment at Telltale :confused:

Or even why you think episodic gaming is 'stupid'? :confused:

The last episode of ToMI will be out in November, so let's just assume that had it all been released as a 'full' game then it would have hit the shops/internet within that month.

So right now you'd still be eagerly awaiting the new Monkey Island which is set to be released in November...you could still have done that;)

I'm not suggesting that episodic content is for everyone and it's not without it's flaws. But when you're given the choice to play each episode monthly or wait for the full season to be released then you've only yourself to blame for any disappointment felt.

Amazonnia
08/01/2009, 04:57 am
The way I see it: Bring out the entire game, and if episodes can be added to it, fine with that. It's like going to see a movie, you don't see the first 15 min and must come back in a month. But once you watch the entire movie and gives you a hint about the next movie to come, that seem's more interesting.

smashing
08/01/2009, 05:10 am
The way I see it: Bring out the entire game, and if episodes can be added to it, fine with that. It's like going to see a movie, you don't see the first 15 min and must come back in a month. But once you watch the entire movie and gives you a hint about the next movie to come, that seem's more interesting.

It's really the minority that like the episodic release also. Most of us here are just as frustrated with the mode of release and to wait in between as well. It's just like getting stuck to a episodic serial on television. You will rush home just to watch it, if you are THAT interested in finding it out, often at the risk of making difficult and sometime wrong decision in your social life.

But since we are already in this situation, what can we do? We could of course wait until the whole game is completed and then get the whole game later. Or we could just play any bit of it that is available. Having a bit of Monkey Island is infinitely better than no Monkey Island. Life sucks, so what?

At the end of the day, it is still your own perception that defines it. Most of us here have manage to look through the frustrations and see the fun of interacting with other people, preferring to stay optimistic and continue the wave of fanaticism on this site and elsewhere. I bet there are people who are holding back as well, and we definitely respect them. What I really don't see is how your voiced perception here is something that is constructive. It won't change a thing anyway. So it's your decision to stick it up like the rest of us, wait for the game to complete, or don't bother with it at all. No one is holding a knife at you.




Geesh! And when I thought I could refrain from making any serious comment today... ...

Tea
08/01/2009, 05:27 am
I'm a big fan of MI but this thing about bring out the game once per month totally got me off interest of playing. When I told my friends about this, they said that it was so stupid. Now we have to wait wait and wait. August 1st and still nothing.

For the futur, I will wait until it comes out in stores.
Sorry tellgames, i'm very disapointed.

Don't you have to wait for TV shows? Didn't we have to wait a year between Lord of the Rings movies?

What makes games so different, I don't get it.

SurplusGamer
08/01/2009, 05:55 am
It's really the minority that like the episodic release also. Most of us here are just as frustrated with the mode of release and to wait in between as well.
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That's very presumptuous. Many of the people here were

a) Telltale fans before they were Monkey Island fans
b) Monkey Island fans who have followed Telltale from the beginning and grown to enjoy the episodic model (I include myself in that)
and
c) Monkey Island fans who came to Telltale for Monkey Island and are excited about this new way of playing.

Lots of people fall into the above categories and actually I haven't seen a whole lot of complaint about episodic as a release model. The occasional thread here crops up but there are lots more excitedly talking about what's going to crop up in the next episode, etc.

Hitman
08/01/2009, 05:59 am
I am FOR episodic gaming and think is the best thing that happened to adventure games. Now it's a tie. :p

But seriously now, if you didn't learn to have patience then how did you manage to survive so far? You have to wait for things all the time.

And besides, the Telltale games are like self contained episodes, not 15 minutes of a movie like you said. There's a certain plot in each episode which you do get to play for 4 hours AND see the end of it.

tomo_cjt
08/01/2009, 06:18 am
I am FOR episodic gaming and think is the best thing that happened to adventure games. Now it's a tie. :p


+1 Now we're winning :D

But seriously now, if you didn't learn to have patience then how did you manage to survive so far? You have to wait for things all the time.

And besides, the Telltale games are like self contained episodes, not 15 minutes of a movie like you said. There's a certain plot in each episode which you do get to play for 4 hours AND see the end of it.

I really like the way the episodes are self contained stories that have an overall story arc. I'm can't wait for episode 2 (although I'd rather them polish it than rush it) but I'm happy to get the episodes once a month rather than wait till the end of the year to get the game in one go.

octochan
08/01/2009, 08:10 am
This is like buying comic books. Do you buy the separate issues every month, or wait until the series ends and get the trade paperback? Except that with comics, it's more of a gamble. Some comics series don't get collected, but if it does, it generally costs a lot less than getting individual issues.
With TTG, the price is pretty much the same whether or not you get them separately or all in one go, so why wouldn't I want to find out what happens next as soon as they can release it?

Shauntron
08/01/2009, 08:27 am
It's been 9 years since the last Monkey Island... what's another month? :)

RobD
08/01/2009, 08:35 am
Now we have to wait wait and wait. August 1st and still nothing.


You do know a month is 4 weeks, not 3?;)

It's not even as if the previous games didn't use chapters in the same style. This way we get a game sooner and keep interest longer from cliffhangers/buildup between episodes. To say it's stupid and dissapointing is to me saying that you're afraid of things changing in the smallest way possible, as well as that Telltale are in fact doing exactly what they planned - keeping anticipation up between episodes to generate interest.:p

Kenif
08/01/2009, 09:11 am
I'm not particularly fond of it either but I accept it.

This is how telltale does their business.
Telltale are making the type of games I want to play.
Therefore I buy episodic games.

It's not the worst thing ever. Would you prefer if nobody were making this particular type of games (adventure) ?

Dan2593
08/01/2009, 09:30 am
Notice how Telltale don't give a release date up until a few days before?
It's because they are constantly working on it.
I read on Kotaku a week before release of TOMI:E1 that the keyboard control system still hadn't been implemented.

This also allows feedback on what works and not. By EP3 any grumbles we had should be gone. Like Murrays inclusion.

Don't look at it like an episode. Look at it like a whole game. Just a short one. It can still last you so many hours if you interect with everything like monkey island and then ends on a cliff hanger. Then you get ANOTHER one next month. Monkey Island a month is good for me.

And atleast Telltale don't say they will do monthly releases and then take 2 years and do various other games in that time instead of doing what they should be doing. I still want to know Gmans plan. I'm sure Left4Dead 1 and 2 could of waited till the Half Life episodes where bloody done.

jamiehavok
08/01/2009, 09:52 am
if you dont like episiodic gaming just wait until the whole thing to be released in november and play em all back to back, problem solved!

stemot
08/01/2009, 09:56 am
August 1st and still nothing.


Love this. You've still got the rest of the month to potentially wait. You say this as if Telltale are taking the piss by not having it ready for release on the first day of the month. Jeez.

cole
08/01/2009, 10:05 am
This is my first exposure to episodic gaming and I like it. It's fun to read all the speculation on the forum. I imagine that when episode 2 gets here I'll be pretty excited. I'll play it and then it have fun reading all the new stuff people are posting in the forums. Then it'll start all over when episode 3 comes out. I think episodic gaming really helps build the community, which is actually pretty genius. People are really starting to get antsy though, huh?

TheMandingo
08/01/2009, 01:03 pm
Amazonnia, you're looking at this wrong, dude. You should realize that episodic gaming means you've begun playing Tales of Monkey Island five months early, rather than being made to wait an extra 5 months. You'd be waiting all this time while the game was in development, as opposed to playing the finished installments one at a time. So let me ask you this: do you think that having the choice is a GOOD thing or a BAD thing?

(Hint: If you still say "bad", may God have mercy on your soul...)

doomsoth
08/01/2009, 01:15 pm
Could be worse. You could be waiting two years between instalments, as Valve make people do with their poorly implemented episodic model.

I still love Valve though; nothing beats Half-Life shooter wise, IMO. Telltale is definitely great at doing episodic content. I mean, it's not Telltale's fault people can wait for a video game to come out. I'd prefer a finished/polished product rather than a rushed one.

fire2box
08/01/2009, 01:18 pm
Could be worse. You could be waiting two years between instalments, as Valve make people do with their poorly implemented episodic model.

Asides for John Madden's Left 4 Dead.

doomsoth
08/01/2009, 01:21 pm
Asides for John Madden's Left 4 Dead.

I wouldn't exactly compare L4D to John Madden, but whatever. CoD and GH are worse.

Amazonnia
08/01/2009, 03:24 pm
Understandable, but if it's going to be a monthly thing, then devided the cost per month when it comes out. Like World of Warcraft, you pay for the month you are using an not 6-12 months to come.

For the guy that talked about Lord of the rings... yes I did have to wait for it, but at least they didn't ask me to pay 2-3 years in advance and wait it out. See what i'm trying to say?

For themandingo "dude" :) It's a good thing to play the game, all five chapters. "dude" it's like reading a book, do you buy a chapter at the time or the entire book? ...voila This is why i'm saying, i'm not a big hard core fan like you to play 1 episode at the time.. with all respect "dude" :)

Anyways, I guess I made my point. Some out there don't seem to mind paying up front months in advance but that is their choice and some of us are disapointed that we do pay in advance and a month later, still nothing.

Thanks for your opinions :)

adventureaddict
08/01/2009, 03:48 pm
Well, technically you've got 6 more days for it to be a 'month', but whatever.
I never expected the next installment on the 1st of August, or even the 7th.
Just as long as it eventually gets here, I'm good =]

Also, episodic gaming is my favourite way to game, ever. I think it might be all the suspense, coming on to the forums and talking about what's going to happen next, and all that jazz.

Amazonnia
08/01/2009, 04:11 pm
I must admit, one thing that would of been cool is to play the first new modified version of MI 1 while there is a waiting period :)

TheMandingo
08/01/2009, 04:20 pm
Hi, my name is Amazonnia. Telltale forced me to buy a game before I wanted to play it. Now I don't know what to do. Can someone acknowledge me?

Fury
08/01/2009, 04:21 pm
lol you'll have to wait longer for it to come out in stores.

Fury
08/01/2009, 04:23 pm
Hi, my name is Amazonnia. Telltale forced me to buy a game before I wanted to play it. Now I don't know what to do. Can someone acknowledge me?

Err...what?

Hitman
08/01/2009, 04:33 pm
He's just being ironic. ;)

stemot
08/01/2009, 04:39 pm
He's just being ironic. ;)

That would be sarcastic :p

Hitman
08/01/2009, 04:40 pm
Uh... yes!

Of all the reasons against episodic gaming, the "having to wait sooo long (a month)" is probably the weakest one.

SurplusGamer
08/01/2009, 07:12 pm
Sarcasm is a basic form of irony. Look it up.

pilouuuu
08/01/2009, 07:19 pm
Well, I like Lost and I have to wait until the next year for the next season. Whatever.

I don't think it's a big deal. It gives you some emotion of the anticipation and don't knowing what to expect of the new episode. And meanwhile we can spend our time putting theories about next episodes. It's part of the fun.

And has has been mentioned we already waited during 9 years for a new Monkey Island. And at least we didn't wait too long for the first episode, because it was announced just a few weeks before release.

Just try to have a little patience! OMG...What's the problem with kids these days??

bobhobbit
08/01/2009, 07:23 pm
Of all the reasons against episodic gaming, the "having to wait sooo long (a month)" is probably the weakest one.

Yes, but with only a month (-ish) between episodes, the waiting is intensified all the more, because you taste blood and want more, figuratively speaking. It's easier to wait 9 years--you forget that you've been waiting. When you're not sure how long the wait is, but it's numbered in days and not years, it makes it so much harder to be patient.

I've been replaying all the old MI games while I wait, but I think I'm gonna run out. I'm halfway through CMI now...

EMI might take a while though, I haven't played all the way through it before. I think I gave up and figured it had jumped the shark about the time I got to insult arm wrestling. Probably had homework to do around that time too.

But what will I do between episodes 2 & 3? or 3 & 4??

SHODANFreeman
08/01/2009, 07:29 pm
I agree with the numerous posts that boil down to "if you don't like it, wait for them all to be out and pretend it was released as a whole game."

Chiphead
08/01/2009, 09:08 pm
Understandable, but if it's going to be a monthly thing, then devided the cost per month when it comes out. Like World of Warcraft, you pay for the month you are using an not 6-12 months to come.
Doesn't World of Warcraft let you play for the next 6-12 months at once? And doesn't this let you pay for only one episode at a time?

If nothing else, the episodic approach gives them time to fix the framerate issues for the next episodes of the Wii version.

Toothless Gibbon
08/02/2009, 12:03 am
The general concensus is that the episodes may available individually soon, although this has not been confirmed yet by TTG.

And for all those wondering what to do while they wait - have you played TTGs other games? The ones I have played have all been superb and with free episodes and discount codes they are incredible value. e.g. W&G season 1 for $15!

Friar
08/03/2009, 01:52 am
The way I see it: Bring out the entire game, and if episodes can be added to it, fine with that. It's like going to see a movie, you don't see the first 15 min and must come back in a month. But once you watch the entire movie and gives you a hint about the next movie to come, that seem's more interesting. No it's not. It's more like lord of the rings, but on a tighter schedule. Each film was linked to the rest and you were left hanging between films as to what became of your favourite hobbits. The average playtime for TMI C1 is about 3-4 hours, not 15 minutes.

Also, as mentioned before, if you are not a fan of episodic gameplay, just buy the whole game in november.

quickfics
08/03/2009, 02:07 am
If you think this is the worst thing ever, just wait till you're forced to eat a puppy sandwich. It will destroy your soul.

ivan11111
08/03/2009, 02:09 am
If you think this is the worst thing ever, just wait till you're forced to eat a puppy sandwich. It will destroy your soul.

And it'll give you dog breath.

Zinc
08/03/2009, 03:14 am
I hate episodic releases and single releases. I hate waiting and I hate getting it early. I hate games and electricity. Why doesn't TellTale just release a tin of diarrhea and a puppy sandwich instead? Goddamn you TellTale, you make me want to die.

Novotnus
08/03/2009, 05:07 am
Goddamn you TellTale, you make me want to die.

Don't let me stop you! We have a serious problem here, because I hate tins of diarrhea and I'm alergic to puppy sandwiches.If they ever dare to sell something like that, I'll have to blow up their headquaters!