Future Sam makes me a bit sad

[Stellar Duck]

Hey guys

I just finished Chariot of the Dogs today and I enjoyed it immensely. Best idea in a long time to buy Season 2 of Sam & Max.
However, as I played the game I met the future versions of Sam & Max. After my initial laugh over the Dalek like chair Sam was in, I got hit by a wave of sadness or perhaps melancholy. He looked so... I don't know... sad, sitting there in strange clothes and losing his connection to the world, and Sam telling him people were there for his 'special day'.
It was a pretty hard thing for me to see. Especially considering it's just a game. But Sam & Max have been part of my life since I was a wee kid playing Hit the Road, so in a sense I was witnessing the twilight of an old hero. A strange sensation in a game. For me at least. But thanks to Telltale for managing that.

Did anyone else feel something along the same lines or am I just an overly emotional sap? :)

[GinnyN]

I don't know. I laugh a lot with Future Sam (Seriously!), but, at the same time, I feel sad for him. But I feel sadder for Future Max in fact. But the whole situation is so typical and the same time heartwarming and hilarious so... I don't know. It's a big bag of mixed feelings...

[Ribs]

As he would say, "This Novel could be of use!"

[Maxilyah]

I felt sad too, for both of them. But it seems that Max has grown up a bit because of it, too, so maybe it's a good thing. Still, very very sad.

[Stellar Duck]

I'm somewhat glad to see that I'm not alone. And as was mentioned, while sad it was also funny. I should perhaps have mentioned that. His random muttering are great, as are the random 'I can't use this...' of past Sam on board the ship. He's just an ass though. :P

[Woodsyblue]

I loved Future Sam. "I can't shoot Max, he's my little buddy!"

[PimPamPet]

I thought it was pretty funny.

[Shwoo]

I thought it was a little depressing too. Although Sam didn't seem too bothered about it. He didn't even mention it except for that one time in What's New, Beelzebub?.

Sam: Max, what's our situation?
Max: Peepers is making the moves on Sybil. She's totally into it.
Sam: Just making sure my dementia hadn't kicked in early.

[GinnyN]

Sam: Max, what's our situation?
Max: Peepers is making the moves on Sybil. She's totally into it.
Sam: Just making sure my dementia hadn't kicked in early.

That was a situation worth of checking!

[Fabula vir]

I thought it was a little depressing too. Although Sam didn't seem too bothered about it. He didn't even mention it except for that one time in What's New, Beelzebub?.

Sam: Max, what's our situation?
Max: Peepers is making the moves on Sybil. She's totally into it.
Sam: Just making sure my dementia hadn't kicked in early.

Hah, I never got that when I played.
Thanks.

[Barliesque]

This reminds me of an old argument I've had with my father about a movie called "The Fortune Cookie" (as well as several other films, but that's the one that started it). I said it was a comedy; he said it was too dark to be a comedy, that it must be a drama. Well, in truth, it's a mix of comedy and drama, which is what I like best of all. The mix of genuine humanity and comedy brings the concept of comedy to a deeper level.

Future Sam is sad. And funny. And full of humanity. Or doggity if you prefer.

[Stellar Duck]

This reminds me of an old argument I've had with my father about a movie called "The Fortune Cookie" (as well as several other films, but that's the one that started it). I said it was a comedy; he said it was too dark to be a comedy, that it must be a drama. Well, in truth, it's a mix of comedy and drama, which is what I like best of all. The mix of genuine humanity and comedy brings the concept of comedy to a deeper level.

Future Sam is sad. And funny. And full of humanity. Or doggity if you prefer.

Very good post! It actually sums up what I was thinking much better than I could in my OP. Thanks!

And after just completing Ep 4 of ToMI I have to say that Telltale really knows how to get under my skin. :D

[Randulf]

Adventuring does take its toll. At least future Sam seems happy and safe in his office, unlike DeCava in Tales of Monkey Island, who is demented, bitter, angry and stuck inside the belly of a beast.

[Icedhope]

Adventuring does take its toll. At least future Sam seems happy and safe in his office, unlike DeCava in Tales of Monkey Island, who is demented, bitter, angry and stuck inside the belly of a beast.

You know what, though he'll get back out.

I think Sam's in a better place, than we are right now. He's living in his past, and never truly getting younger, sure he looks sad, but he's just playing back his old adventuring days.

[Ashton]

What terrifies me... is the fact that TTG might decide to go that rout in the end of the series... after all, they have all the sprites pre-made now...

I agree it's very sad, though his mutterings are hilarious. Its touching that even in his severe demented state he wont shoot max.

[Gman5852]

Hey guys

I just finished Chariot of the Dogs today and I enjoyed it immensely. Best idea in a long time to buy Season 2 of Sam & Max.
However, as I played the game I met the future versions of Sam & Max. After my initial laugh over the Dalek like chair Sam was in, I got hit by a wave of sadness or perhaps melancholy. He looked so... I don't know... sad, sitting there in strange clothes and losing his connection to the world, and Sam telling him people were there for his 'special day'.
It was a pretty hard thing for me to see. Especially considering it's just a game. But Sam & Max have been part of my life since I was a wee kid playing Hit the Road, so in a sense I was witnessing the twilight of an old hero. A strange sensation in a game. For me at least. But thanks to Telltale for managing that.

Did anyone else feel something along the same lines or am I just an overly emotional sap? :)
It literally was Sam's "special day" that card took you to sam's birthday. Max of the furture and pedro clarify that.

[Shwoo]

I think Sam's in a better place, than we are right now. He's living in his past, and never truly getting younger, sure he looks sad, but he's just playing back his old adventuring days.
That's not better off than we are now, and I don't think Sam would agree either. Thinking of this exchange in Bright Side of the Moon:

Sam: I guess everybody on Earth is kind and generous and happy now.
Max: Isn't it wonderful?
Sam: But at what cost, Max? Free will is... ah, never mind.

I'm probably reading too much into it, Sam & Max wise, but dementia is never a good thing. My grandmother has it, and it's heartbreaking.

[GinnyN]

That's not better off than we are now, and I don't think Sam would agree either. Thinking of this exchange in Bright Side of the Moon:

Sam: I guess everybody on Earth is kind and generous and happy now.
Max: Isn't it wonderful?
Sam: But at what cost, Max? Free will is... ah, never mind.

I'm probably reading too much into it, Sam & Max wise, but dementia is never a good thing. My grandmother has it, and it's heartbreaking.

Yeah, is Heartbreaking, but they are still together, and they still care for each other. That is awesome. Really.

[MaxTheRabbitThing]

IT's very sad. S&M is basically dark humor when you think about it.

[Ashton]

IT's very sad. S&M is basically dark humor when you think about it.

It's got some of everything, including throwaways, sight-gags, groaners, etc, but yes, when It hink about it, a large portion of it is dark humor, there was even a large ammount in the TV series that had been cleaned up for a G rating....

[JedExodus]

Future Sam was kinda dark I thought, def made me a bit sad. I still laughed though, for I am a man :p

[Ashton]

IT's very sad. S&M is basically dark humor when you think about it.

Future Sam was kinda dark I thought, def made me a bit sad.


*GASP* :eek: I figured it all out, it makes so much sence now... Steve Purcell is Secretly Brittish! :p

[Shwoo]

That would explain why Sam and Max kept saying "not bloody likely" in the comics.

[Sausy Gibbon]

And it would explain why he's so funny.

[Falanca]

British people RARELY does/makes anything funny. I doubt it.

[Ashton]

British people RARELY does/makes anything funny. I doubt it.

You either dont watch much british media or you really dont understand british humor. It's rare I see anything british that ISNT funny (Best Example: "Monty Python's Flying Circus" but even a "serious" show like MI5 or Torchwood has humor hidden in it if you pay attention...)

[Secret Fawful]

British people RARELY does/makes anything funny. I doubt it.

Go watch some Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie sketches and come back.

[GinnyN]

*GASP* :eek: I figured it all out, it makes so much sence now... Steve Purcell is Secretly Brittish! :p

You doesn't have to be Brittish for have Dark Humor. Just talk with my sister. And the rest of my family.

Probably they are the masters of Dark Humor, just like I think the French are the best at slaptick. (Or at least that side of Europe...)

British people RARELY does/makes anything funny. I doubt it.

SPAM! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE) Oh sorry. That sound to me much more like a "Flame".

[Falanca]

Go watch some Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie sketches and come back.

Not my taste. I watched some that I haven't watched on Youtube, but still left no impression. It's like Mr. Bean without mimics. That must be a good thing, though...

The only funny thing I've encountered from British was Coupling, and its jokes were decent. Well, all comedy series that are based on sexual relationships are decent. I've never watched or read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy though (just saw some quotes and so far and it's promising enough), I hope this can rip a hole in my generalization.

It's rare I see anything british that ISNT funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_07mqQ9RaTk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDul9MR6BYc


SPAM! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE) Oh sorry. That sound to me much more like a "Flame".

How so? I'm pretty sure British people can do lots of things. It's just comedy ain't one of them, in my opinion.

[Ashton]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd


The IT Crowd is hilarious! It's a SITCOM - SITuation COMedy! The page you linked too infact STATES that it is!

Also the other two movie parodies I laughed hard at.

I think you just dont care for british humor, I've met quite a few that just dont "Get" it or think it's stupid. (no, that's not an insult - I for one dont "get" or understand most political jokes, so, each their own)

[GinnyN]

How so? I'm pretty sure British people can do lots of things. It's just comedy ain't one of them, in my opinion.

It just I think somebody here has to take a couple of dozen humility pills and call it a day.

And you could get some yourself.

[Falanca]

The IT Crowd is hilarious! It's a SITCOM - SITuation COMedy! The page you linked too infact STATES that it is!

Also the other two movie parodies I laughed hard at.

I think you just dont care for british humor, I've met quite a few that just dont "Get" it or think it's stupid. (no, that's not an insult - I for one dont "get" or understand most political jokes, so, each their own)

Uh... There is something under the category "comedy", and there is something that's ACTUALLY funny. The It Crowd is an attempt of series that has nerd-er main cast than those in Big Bang Theory, and mainly relies on that differences between social people and nerds when it comes to the jokes or plot. Na I couldn't like it.

Spiderplant man started a little good, but after the first minute it got even worse than the movie it parodies. Harry Potter parody... Let's just say that having Lindsay Lohan does not automaticly makes something funny. Watchable maybe, but not funny.

Britishs started sitcoms and sketches maybe, but Americans produce way better examples of those two sub-categories. I'm not American or British, so I believe I'm pretty objective on this.

[Secret Fawful]

Not my taste. I watched some that I haven't watched on Youtube, but still left no impression. It's like Mr. Bean without mimics. That must be a good thing, though...

The only funny thing I've encountered from British was Coupling, and its jokes were decent. Well, all comedy series that are based on sexual relationships are decent. I've never watched or read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy though (just saw some quotes and so far and it's promising enough), I hope this can rip a hole in my generalization.

Try reading some Pratchett novels as well. And the British have been doing comedy since before Americans even heard the word.

Wait, what do you consider "comedy"?

[Falanca]

Wait, what do you consider "comedy"?

Well, "funny" to begin with?

[Secret Fawful]

Well, "funny" to begin with?

What do you consider "funny"? For British comedy to be funny for you you have to be able to "get it". Which can be quite hard for someone who isn't British. Somehow I've managed it though it hasn't improved the quality of my own jokes or writing any.

[Falanca]

It's not about "getting it". It would be the case if I wasn't seeing the jokes.

What I consider "funny" is more of a personal question rather than examining the deep of the comedy (which I'm kinda against with, I'll explain). But to be honest I don't like how British people try to do their comedy by... writing down techniques or going into the detail of it and using those details as "footsteps" or even worse, "rules". It makes it phony. It's just as the same as using a much louder voice in the punchline part when telling a joke to some friends. They want to make us laugh, they "ruled it out", so they see us like some rubber dolls that makes weird voices and rapidly breathes when you push the big red button located on their back.

What do I consider funny? For example, what always made me laugh was the series Seinfeld, because it never felt like as if the characters tried to make us laugh. But the characters' way of thinking were so absurd but in the end, ironically some kinda true, it was that situation that made me think about my experiences about that situation the characters were in, that always made me laugh and think "why didn't I think that before?!".

[Sausy Gibbon]

i don't see how Brittish comedy has 'rules'. Brittish writers push the bondaries, where American writers will just continue to go with the mediocre to get ratings.
Brittish Comedy > American Comedy

[Falanca]

It's just my observation. Jokes always go like "set up, punchline, wait for audience to laugh, repeat the two steps before for five times". Example being; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNoS2BU6bbQ

[Secret Fawful]

It's just my observation. Jokes always go like "set up, punchline, wait for audience to laugh, repeat the two steps before for five times". Example being; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNoS2BU6bbQ

Except that that is an incredibly funny joke.

Here's an American example of the same kind of comedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqE_WmagjY

[Falanca]

Except that that is an incredibly funny joke.

Here's an American example of the same kind of comedy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qqE_WmagjY

I smiled in the first time, but after that... meh. Also it contains unneeded physical humor (not to mention it's phony), which kinda got old after Charlie Chaplin. (EDIT: I'm talking about the video I sent by the way)

Why I love American humor is that they found their kind of comedy by experimenting on what others' have started. Even in sitcoms there are more than enough examples that are better than some other British ones. The reason of this, is that instead of going through that "set-up, story, punchline" routine or cliché "I PUNCHED YOU IN THE FACE SO YOU TURN AROUND FOR ONCE AND FALL" gag, they always tried different elements to fit into that sitcom sub-category.

[Sausy Gibbon]

An American sitcom are just the same as the next American sitcom. The premise may be different but the stories are always the same. They always go through the similar routine one character goes through a inane delema, (sometimes there is another story going on, with a minor character) the actors go through their lines of stupid inuendo and catch phrases and finally the piece ends with another stupid conclusion.

[Falanca]

An American sitcom are just the same as the next American sitcom. The premise may be different but the stories are always the same. They always go through the similar routine one character goes through a inane delema, (sometimes there is another story going on, with a minor character) the actors go through their lines of stupid inuendo and catch phrases and finally the piece ends with another stupid conclusion.

Inane "dilemma"? Dilemmas are a way to thicken the main plot. It's like, the life is like that. We all choose different paths but in the end what we got is a DILEMMA after all. I mean what the hell? If you don't want a main plot and it's okay if you get cheap gags like physical humor or so, it's your choice.

British humor is the one which makes the most use of catchphrases and joke repetition, I have to say. True, American sitcoms mostly the same as they all are based on a wide family and their problems (Everybody Loves Raymond, The King of Queens, According to Jim and so on), but what American sitcoms could achieve is just... superior. Seinfeld, for instance, it's like a reality sitcom. American comedy is not composed of sitcoms either, for instance we do have My Name is Earl or Scrubs -although the storywork of the episodes of Scrubs is highly formulaic, but at least they try something fresh and funny- (coincidentally, both of them are at some points, parodied "sitcom" and its contents); NOT sitcoms, comedy and some drama here and there, and they are pretty much original yet they worth so much laughter.

[Sausy Gibbon]

What Brittish sitcoms have you actually seen?
And how can you say Scrubs and My Name is Earl are "freah and funny". Their premise is different but realy inside its just stupid clumbsy inuendo. And secondly their are heaps of Brittish shows that try new thing and they are ten times funnier than anything in America. For example in sitcoms The Mighty Boosh, Fun at the Funearal Parlour, The League of Gentleman, Extras, Blackadder, The Young Ones and Red Dwarf. And in sketchs like Monty Python and Snuffbox.

Brittish comedy intelegant and fresh where American comedy is just mediocre and vulgar.

[Icedhope]

What Brittish sitcoms have you actually seen?
And how can you say Scrubs and My Name is Earl are "freah and funny". Their premise is different but realy inside its just stupid clumbsy inuendo. And secondly their are heaps of Brittish shows that try new thing and they are ten times funnier than anything in America. For example in sitcoms The Mighty Boosh, Fun at the Funearal Parlour, The League of Gentleman, Extras, Blackadder, The Young Ones and Red Dwarf. And in sketchs like Monty Python and Snuffbox.

Brittish comedy intelegant and fresh where American comedy is just mediocre and vulgar.

I prefer most British comedies more than American. Like Monty Python, Red Dwarf.

[Zeromaeus]

I tend to find myself laughing more at British television than American television. Its just humorous to me. That's just me though...
The funny thing about this arguement is that, for one its completely off topic, and for two humor is a matter of opinion. Subjective in other words. Humor varies for different people. Different strokes for different folks and all that jazz...
To add to the arguement, most sitcoms or comedy series in general are rather similar at their core. The characters vary, but the stories tend to follow the same cliches.
Like I said, I prefer British humor. Monty Python, in my opinion, is leagues better than most American programs. Doctor Who as well, although that is mostly a SciFi thing rather than humor. Given the choice between Stargate and Doctor Who, I'd pick the Doctor. That's me, though. Not you guys. Don't sweat so much over a difference in opinion.

[Pitbull-Threepwood]

Adventuring does take its toll. At least future Sam seems happy and safe in his office, unlike DeCava in Tales of Monkey Island, who is demented, bitter, angry and stuck inside the belly of a beast.

You have a good point. Although, remember that poor senile old Sam is in the care of the rabbity-thing... and Stinky rules the world. Kind of Dystopian.

I hear ya about the funny-sad future Sam though. Probably because I have a dog... who is getting old... and I can almost hear her confusion in her old age about "things". *sniffles*.

I actually wanted to give the old-senile Sam a hug.

[Sausy Gibbon]

Sorry to go of the topic before. I said before in this thread that Max seems the exact same age as his present conterpart. Is there an explanation?

[Falanca]

Sorry to go of the topic before. I said before in this thread that Max seems the exact same age as his present conterpart. Is there an explanation?

Yes.


He's awesome that way.

[Shwoo]

He just ages well, I think. He does seem to be blind, though.

[GinnyN]

That typical, when, in a couple, someone ages bad, the other person ussually ages well. That happened with my grandparents, I guess you can apply the same thing to Sam and Max. Max probably has his own share of health problems, and, since he's using that kind of visor, maybe what Shwoo said of him been blind can been somewhat accurate.

[Falanca]

He just ages well, I think. He does seem to be blind, though.

I think his glasses are just there for referencing something that takes place in future. I... well... hope he's not blind.

Funny fact is that it was Max himself who said the life expectancy of him was very short compared to others, in Hit the Road.

[Pitbull-Threepwood]

I think his glasses are just there for referencing something that takes place in future. I... well... hope he's not blind.

Funny fact is that it was Max himself who said the life expectancy of him was very short compared to others, in Hit the Road.

I shall now reveal my uber-geekiness.

Doesn't his visor remind anyone of Geordi's headband/visor-thing from STTNG? Aaaannd... didn't Geordi have that thing because... he's blind?

Max is blind in the future. Not a bad price to pay considering the normal lifespan of rabbits (and large dogs).

[Falanca]

I shall now reveal my uber-geekiness.

Doesn't his visor remind anyone of Geordi's headband/visor-thing from STTNG? Aaaannd... didn't Geordi have that thing because... he's blind?

Max is blind in the future. Not a bad price to pay considering the normal lifespan of rabbits (and large dogs).

Duh -clash of geeknesses shall begin- I do know Geordi uses it because he's blind. But I kinda felt bad about it, so I assumed the VISOR is only used for referencing Star Trek because it's, well, future.

[Pitbull-Threepwood]

Duh -clash of geeknesses shall begin- I do know Geordi uses it because he's blind. But I kinda felt bad about it, so I assumed the VISOR is only used for referencing Star Trek because it's, well, future.

Yes... well... we can all hope... but if it's blindness or death, Max would have probably chosen blindness.. besides, if he has that Visor (girl's headband), then he can still sorta see... and they say rabbits all have good eyesight... pshaw.

[Falanca]

Well, he is a lagomorph to begin with.

[GinnyN]

Well, he is a lagomorph to begin with.

Mouses are Rodents, Rabbits are Lagomorphs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagomorpha). I mean, Rabbits are a particular kind of lagomorphs; exists 3 kinds of families of lagomorphs according to wikipedia, and those are the familiy of Rabbits and Hares, the Family of Pikas (Also known as Rock Rabbits) and the Family of the Sardinian Pika, which is extint. So, call Max rabbit is as accurate as call him lagomorph.

Sorry, when I read lagomorph the first time, I google it, and I find that page of the wiki. I don't know any more about it and I'm trusting the wiki this time ^^UUU

[Pitbull-Threepwood]

Mouses are Rodents, Rabbits are Lagomorphs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagomorpha). I mean, Rabbits are a particular kind of lagomorphs; exists 3 kinds of families of lagomorphs according to wikipedia, and those are the familiy of Rabbits and Hares, the Family of Pikas (Also known as Rock Rabbits) and the Family of the Sardinian Pika, which is extint. So, call Max rabbit is as accurate as call him lagomorph.

Sorry, when I read lagomorph the first time, I google it, and I find that page of the wiki. I don't know any more about it and I'm trusting the wiki this time ^^UUU

Hahahah... are you my geek-clone? I did the EXACT same thing the first time I heard the term "Lagomorph" (which was around the time I wanted to get a Flemish Giant... yes... the 20 pound rabbits).

I was going to go into the whole wiki thing too... but just thought I'd drop it and let Fala have the last word... she seemed rather intent on it. Understandable as none of us like to think of Sam OR Max as debilitated in any way.

[Shwoo]

I think future Max wears the visor because he needs it, like future Sam needs his wheelchair.

And Max doesn't seem to mind whether he's called a rabbit or a lagomorph. He even said he was a rabbit in Culture Shock. The only reason he corrected Sam in the comic is because Sam called him a rodent.

[Randulf]

The psychic lagomorph has presumably developed such immense power that he needs protective eyeware to prevent himself from zapping everything to the eleventh dimension.

[GinnyN]

I think future Max wears the visor because he needs it, like future Sam needs his wheelchair.

I never knew that visor actually works when you are blind. That means I actually I don't have that all those geeky levels I show off like two post ago

[Shwoo]

Well, there's different kinds of geekery. Knowing what lagomorph means is more about taxonomy, and knowing what the visor does is more Star Trek. Although I'm not really a Star Trek geek. I've never even seen The Next Generation, which I think is the series it's from. I just suck up information about shows I've never seen and games I've never played like a giant fandom sponge.

[Ashton]

I'm sitting here wondering less about max's eyes than why (and how) the heck Future Sam got him the bottom half of a Dalek battle armor to use as a wheelchair!

[Shwoo]

Same place Davros did, I guess.

[Pitbull-Threepwood]

Well, there's different kinds of geekery. Knowing what lagomorph means is more about taxonomy, and knowing what the visor does is more Star Trek. Although I'm not really a Star Trek geek. I've never even seen The Next Generation, which I think is the series it's from. I just suck up information about shows I've never seen and games I've never played like a giant fandom sponge.

So we're saying I'm the uber-geek... Biology degree AND love Star Trek... AND a gamer. THIS is why I was single all throughout University... it makes so much SENSE now...

[Pitbull-Threepwood]

I'm sitting here wondering less about max's eyes than why (and how) the heck Future Sam got him the bottom half of a Dalek battle armor to use as a wheelchair!

Hey... if you gotta have a wheel chair... get one with LOTS OF BUTTONS. :D

Admit it. You want one for your twilight years...

[Ashton]

Same place Davros did, I guess.

I doubt it, Dravos *created* the Daleks... and becides that's atleast the same universe, so far The Doctor hasnt seen any large anthro canines or rabbits walking around (and we know how hard it is to go to alternate dimentions, even in a Tardis now that the timelords are all gone)

...of course we also say Max wearing Jordi laforge's visor... so I guess the "wrong dimention" theory just went out the window...

I wanna see the fight where Sam collected the Dalek Battle Armor though! lol that would be hilarious I'm sure.

[Shwoo]

Davros made his wheelchair before he created the Daleks. Obviously Sam went back in time and to another universe and stole it, forcing Davros to come up with another idea to beat the Thals.

[Sausy Gibbon]

I don't think the wheelchair or the visor have anything to do with anything, they're just supose to be references to Sci-Fi.

[GinnyN]

I don't think the wheelchair or the visor have anything to do with anything, they're just supose to be references to Sci-Fi.

They are just references. But since they know from where that come from, we can speculate.

[Ashton]

They are just references. But since they know from where that come from, we can speculate.

I'm sure the guys at TTG are sitting there rolling their eyes saying "I cant believe how they blow every little think out of proportion! It was just a stupid joke and they're trying to turn it into a back-story long as a novel!" :D

[GinnyN]

I'm sure the guys at TTG are sitting there rolling their eyes saying "I cant believe how they blow every little think out of proportion! It was just a stupid joke and they're trying to turn it into a back-story long as a novel!" :D

Because that the fans are for

[Icedhope]

Because that the fans are for

That is diffently what we do.

[light_rises]

Because that the fans are for

A-freakin'-men. Also, it's fun. So long as we're not getting into the equivalent of fisticuffs over this stuff, s'all good to me.

And this has nothing at all to do with my irrational yet undying love for awesome crossovers. Nnnnnnnope.

[homsarthesong]

i just hope he isnt like this for season 3, which was made official at the end of tomi episode 5

[htmarly]

Hey guys

I just finished Chariot of the Dogs today and I enjoyed it immensely. Best idea in a long time to buy Season 2 of Sam & Max.
However, as I played the game I met the future versions of Sam & Max. After my initial laugh over the Dalek like chair Sam was in, I got hit by a wave of sadness or perhaps melancholy. He looked so... I don't know... sad, sitting there in strange clothes and losing his connection to the world, and Sam telling him people were there for his 'special day'.
It was a pretty hard thing for me to see. Especially considering it's just a game. But Sam & Max have been part of my life since I was a wee kid playing Hit the Road, so in a sense I was witnessing the twilight of an old hero. A strange sensation in a game. For me at least. But thanks to Telltale for managing that.

Did anyone else feel something along the same lines or am I just an overly emotional sap? :)
(mild spoilers)
i actually felt the same way it kind of reminded me of my own mortality and what could happen i felt terrible until i saw agent superball... good ol' superball.

[War Wolves]

Hey guys

I just finished Chariot of the Dogs today and I enjoyed it immensely. Best idea in a long time to buy Season 2 of Sam & Max.
However, as I played the game I met the future versions of Sam & Max. After my initial laugh over the Dalek like chair Sam was in, I got hit by a wave of sadness or perhaps melancholy. He looked so... I don't know... sad, sitting there in strange clothes and losing his connection to the world, and Sam telling him people were there for his 'special day'.
It was a pretty hard thing for me to see. Especially considering it's just a game. But Sam & Max have been part of my life since I was a wee kid playing Hit the Road, so in a sense I was witnessing the twilight of an old hero. A strange sensation in a game. For me at least. But thanks to Telltale for managing that.

Did anyone else feel something along the same lines or am I just an overly emotional sap? :)

Sam and Max, my favorate characters of anything. Seeing Sam in the future made me sad, and made my little brother Nate (who loves Sam) also very sad. But We were both happy to see Max returning to him the years Sam spent taking care of him. But we were uplifted when we heared
"Its lint from my pocket... This could come in handy for later."
We laughed hard, cried in fact it was that funny to hear David voice it so well and make it so funny. But hey, its 100 years from 2008 it happend so they are like 120/130 something, so theyve lived long after whatever happened.

[Zonino]

What you've got to remember, which is what I said in the How old is Sam and Max thread, is that most fictional universes tend to work in Comic Book Time. Sam and Max need never get old as long as the fans love them, but at the same time creators do like to sometimes envisage how a series might eventually end.

Plus even if they did keep it on a time frame, remember that that future was in 2108, that's years away! Almost 100 even!

[Ashton]

Sam and Max need never get old as long as the fans love them, but at the same time creators do like to sometimes envisage how a series might eventually end.

But if tehy fall out of popularity their creator might decide to end the series by making them grow old and die...

LET THAT BE A WARNING TO YOU ALL... NEVER STOP BUYING S+M MERCHANDISE!!! :D :D :D

[Zonino]

But if tehy fall out of popularity their creator might decide to end the series by making them grow old and die...

LET THAT BE A WARNING TO YOU ALL... NEVER STOP BUYING S+M MERCHANDISE!!! :D :D :D

But then you just invoke the other comic/cartoon trope: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BackFromTheDead

Death never lasts. As long as you are popular enough :P

[puzzlebox]

But if tehy fall out of popularity their creator might decide to end the series by making them grow old and die...

LET THAT BE A WARNING TO YOU ALL... NEVER STOP BUYING S+M MERCHANDISE!!! :D :D :D

Emotional blackmail as a marketing tool? It could work! :p

[GinnyN]

Emotional blackmail as a marketing tool? It could work! :p

Unless somebody decides blackmailing you because you are blackmailing =P