View Full Version : MAJOR SPOILERS: The ending could mean...
Sir Pantalones
10/30/2009, 05:42 pm
Well, I thought of this earlier in one thread, and with a slightly positive response even, but that was before the release of chapter 4.
Now, regarding the ending...
We have for some time now discussed different ways of having Guybrush return to Monkey Island, as well as reasons to why he should not. Not many people would like to revisit the island, mainly because it's free of hermits, cannibals and giant monkey heads.
But with both Guybrush and Morgan getting killed, there's a possibility for the both of them to return to the island.
Does anyone out there remember the vicious mushroom-covered lands resting BENEATH Monkey Island, and what roles they played...?
thekoolaidpimp
10/30/2009, 06:16 pm
Well, I thought of this earlier in one thread, and with a slightly positive response even, but that was before the release of chapter 4.
Now, regarding the ending...
We have for some time now discussed different ways of having Guybrush return to Monkey Island, as well as reasons to why he should not. Not many people would like to revisit the island, mainly because it's free of hermits, cannibals and giant monkey heads.
But with both Guybrush and Morgan getting killed, there's a possibility for the both of them to return to the island.
Does anyone out there remember the vicious mushroom-covered lands resting BENEATH Monkey Island, and what roles they played...?
interesting thought, but i wonder what was in that chest that Elane was after in the game, also the voodoo lady talked about some of her other voodoo items in her hut being taken out before it blew up.
RMJ1984
10/30/2009, 06:28 pm
If you actully go back to his house again, you will see that Morgans body has disappered, so i wonder if she is really dead or what has happened
i must say somehow this episode really topped out for me in so many climaxs, and the humor and the sadness, god damn this is amazing episode, they better do another season else ill be very sad :(
Nachtnebel
10/30/2009, 06:38 pm
interesting thought, but i wonder what was in that chest that Elane was after in the game, also the voodoo lady talked about some of her other voodoo items in her hut being taken out before it blew up.
Judging from DeSinge's actions and everything, it's likely empty and nothing but a lure for Elaine to walk over the clamshell.
Epic Kiwi
10/30/2009, 06:53 pm
The Monkey Island cannibals will resurrect Guybrush as their replacement navigator head, and he'll have to have Elaine carry him around so he can solve puzzles.
Funny, i didn't think you could die in Lucas Arts adventure games.
hmm...
Secret Fawful
10/30/2009, 07:34 pm
The Monkey Island cannibals will resurrect Guybrush as their replacement navigator head, and he'll have to have Elaine carry him around so he can solve puzzles.
What makes you say that?
tbm1986
10/30/2009, 07:43 pm
Funny, i didn't think you could die in LucasArts adventure games. hmm...
But in a Telltale game derived from a LucasArts franchise, that's another matter :p
But I agree, it was as much a shock to the system as Morgan cutting off Guybrush's hand was, if not more (as in where do we go from here as an ongoing saga?).
tbm1986
10/30/2009, 07:45 pm
I reckon Guybrush could be resurrected using his own hand (like LeChuck was from his own beard in MI2) but Morgan can't be brought back
darknessofheart
10/30/2009, 07:49 pm
That truly had to be the most emotional scene in any monkey island game. Zero humor. Everything was so emotional, even Elaine telling LeChuck to go to hell. LeChuck was just plain out cruel in that scene with absolutely no comical undertones, perfect villain. I don't miss the human LeChuck, he was great, but they defiantly used him to the full potential. No reason to draw out that form anymore. Glad to see he was behind everything, though I'm dying to know all the steps in his plans including the one with the voodoo lady being arrested.
tbm1986
10/30/2009, 07:58 pm
That truly had to be the most emotional scene in any monkey island game. Zero humor. Everything was so emotional, even Elaine telling LeChuck to go to hell. LeChuck was just plain out cruel in that scene with absolutely no comical undertones, perfect villain.
That was a real Disney moment, as was the one with Morgan. Perfect tone, correct length, did the characters justice.
I don't miss the human LeChuck, he was great, but they definitely used him to the full potential. No reason to draw out that form anymore.
Agreed. They know how to quit when they're ahead, it would seem.
doggans
10/30/2009, 08:05 pm
That truly had to be the most emotional scene in any monkey island game. Zero humor. Everything was so emotional, even Elaine telling LeChuck to go to hell.
Personally, I would never have believed "dairy farmer"/"cow" could be used with such an emotional impact.
108 Stars
10/30/2009, 08:07 pm
The human LeChuck was very entertaining, but when all comes together in a true Monkey Island, there has to be a demon LeChuck to defeat. Who knows, maybe thefinale will be like the beginning, with LeChuck and Guybrush facing each other in front of the Rock of Gelato.
De Singe did not kill Morgan; maybe it was LeChuck.
However, with Morgan disappearing, I suppose that the monkey Jaqcues gave her some juice de vie.
Then with the plans shown with the projector maybe they can mix up some more of it after Elaine severed LeChuck´s hand. This is used to save Guybrush.
Something along those lines.
darknessofheart
10/30/2009, 08:11 pm
Well, De Singe defiantly didn't kill Morgan. No way in hell would he be able to best her in a sword fight, with or without his elixir. I want to say LeChuck, but why would he do it, aside from being a scheming psychopath who enjoys murdering people for sport. I'm sure there will be a part in the next chapter where LeChuck reveals everything and outlines the steps in his plans throughout all the chapters.
the scene at the end and when guybrush is dieing didn't make me as sad as the death of morgan... guybrush just is an immortal charakter for me and so it was though dramatic but no sad moment.
But after Morgans deathscene eaverything is so sad. I made guybrush look at the microscope on the table and he just sais something like "its broken" in a way that made me think about how this episode could have any funny moments anymore :/
great episode though
tbm1986
10/30/2009, 08:26 pm
That 'Jacques' is one important monkey in this game!
countbleck
10/30/2009, 09:28 pm
I can't believe what an effect Morgan's death had on me..... And I couldn't believe the venom in Guybrush's voice when he uttered, "DeSINGE....."
darknessofheart
10/30/2009, 10:06 pm
Did anyone try to use the hook with our mad doctor....Guybrush has a true dark side to him in this game.
GuruGuru214
10/31/2009, 01:00 am
The human LeChuck was very entertaining, but when all comes together in a true Monkey Island, there has to be a demon LeChuck to defeat. Who knows, maybe thefinale will be like the beginning, with LeChuck and Guybrush facing each other in front of the Rock of Gelato.
Technically, Monkey Island 2 didn't end that way. Yeah, you get the scene with Guybrush ripping LeChuck's leg off (and his arm falling off and the dog taking it away) and "I am your brother" and all that, but the amusement park scene shows that LeChuck is just fine, and his zombie form isn't actually defeated until three months later (according to Stan, if you ask him to be your lawyer) at the start of the third game. Really, Monkey Island 2 is fairly unique in that it ends with the villain defeating the hero.
Also, this brings something else to mind. Tales is the first Monkey Island where we don't find out how LeChuck was resurrected after his last defeat. His ghost is defeated with root beer, his beard is used to bring him back as a zombie, which is destroyed by a voodoo cannonball, which turns him into a fire demon, which is trapped under ice, only to be saved by Ozzie Mandrill. Then he possesses a giant statue and gets destroyed in a giant voodoo explosion when he breaks Ozzie's Ultimate Insult. Then what? I'm not saying that it's at all necessary to explain how he came back, just that this is the first time that no explanation has been given.
Well, De Singe defiantly didn't kill Morgan. No way in hell would he be able to best her in a sword fight, with or without his elixir. I want to say LeChuck, but why would he do it, aside from being a scheming psychopath who enjoys murdering people for sport. I'm sure there will be a part in the next chapter where LeChuck reveals everything and outlines the steps in his plans throughout all the chapters.
De Singe definitely could've done it. He had the advantage of immortality, and Morgan's skill level wouldn't matter if she did what Elaine did and dropped her sword in surprise when the Marquis didn't die. If she had done that, De Singe could've easily pulled the sword out of himself and stabbed her with it. Besides, LeChuck hadn't busted out of prison yet, plus as far as we've seen, he'd never even met Morgan, much less had any reason to kill her.
I can't believe what an effect Morgan's death had on me..... And I couldn't believe the venom in Guybrush's voice when he uttered, "DeSINGE....."
Yeah, Dominic Armato definitely deserves some credit for the emotion he put into that. He's made Guybrush sound happy, worried, nervous, flustered, even smarmy, and countless other light emotions. I believe this is the first time Guybrush has ever sounded genuinely pissed.
Olegdr
10/31/2009, 01:18 am
My theories:
De Singe didn't kill Morgan - why would he deny it if he did? Seeing as he got totally evaporated in the end and his story is finished.
LeChuck most lkely didn't kill Morgan either. He was in jail the whole time.
Morgan is probably not dead else why make a point of her body dissapearing.
My crazy theory: She might have been Lechuck's accomplice all that time and will come back next episode alive/undead.
guimero64
10/31/2009, 01:57 am
Also, this brings something else to mind. Tales is the first Monkey Island where we don't find out how LeChuck was resurrected after his last defeat. His ghost is defeated with root beer, his beard is used to bring him back as a zombie, which is destroyed by a voodoo cannonball, which turns him into a fire demon, which is trapped under ice, only to be saved by Ozzie Mandrill. Then he possesses a giant statue and gets destroyed in a giant voodoo explosion when he breaks Ozzie's Ultimate Insult. Then what? I'm not saying that it's at all necessary to explain how he came back, just that this is the first time that no explanation has been given.
They said that the beginning of Taales of Monkey Island started from the ending of the so-called Monkey island film... so we won't know how he returned to life...:(
GuruGuru214
10/31/2009, 02:26 am
My crazy theory: She might have been Lechuck's accomplice all that time and will come back next episode alive/undead.
Naw. That would be a colossal anticlimax after her immense regret in the last two scenes she was in. I think she has to come back, but not on LeChuck's side.
Planeforger
10/31/2009, 02:41 am
Hm, perhaps Guybrush and Morgan as ghosts, will have to team up to find a way to resurrect themselves? Sure, that doesn't explain her disappearing corpse, but Guybrush would get lonely if he had to wander around the land of the dead (or whatever) with only Noogie for company.
pluizig
10/31/2009, 02:55 am
Couldn't LeChuck have killed Morgan before he entered the courthouse for the first time?
Olegdr
10/31/2009, 02:57 am
Couldn't LeChuck have killed Morgan before he entered the courthouse for the first time?
Yea, that makes sense. I didn't think of it actually, because I only entered De Singe's house rather late in the game.
Friar
10/31/2009, 03:03 am
Personally, i think there may have been some significance in the fact Guybrush was executed with the formerly cursedcutlas of kaflu. and maybe Elaine killed Morgan...
Takun
10/31/2009, 04:05 am
Personally, i think there may have been some significance in the fact Guybrush was executed with the formerly cursedcutlas of kaflu. and maybe Elaine killed Morgan...
I kinda thought that too for a moment, until I remembered that you can tell Elaine in the last part that DeSinge killed Morgan; Poxed Elaine just mentions that maybe he's not that bad after all, and I can imagine with half the things she's been ranting about, she'd take credit if she ran Morgan through herself. '
Now Im giggling remembering her yelling at Morgan to stay away from Guybrush's pants. Heh.
tmsmyth4
10/31/2009, 05:25 am
The rowboat disappeared from next to the fire after her body disappeared so i assume we are to believe she made off on that? come to think of it im surprised at the number of red herrings in this game, expected the fire/oil/molten glass to come in useful
Claudio
10/31/2009, 05:32 am
My theories:
De Singe didn't kill Morgan - why would he deny it if he did? Seeing as he got totally evaporated in the end and his story is finished.
LeChuck most lkely didn't kill Morgan either. He was in jail the whole time.
Morgan is probably not dead else why make a point of her body dissapearing.
My crazy theory: She might have been Lechuck's accomplice all that time and will come back next episode alive/undead.
The things that bugs me is that she died with her own sword in the chest!
How could it possibly be?!?
thehardmenpath
10/31/2009, 06:10 am
Funny, i didn't think you could die in LucasArts adventure games. hmm...
That's a terribly wrong statement.
Think of how many possible deaths there were in the Indy games. And anyway this is not a puzzle gone wrong, this is part of the plot. There's death as a plot point in The Dig, not to mention Grim Fandango, where Death itself IS the plot.
Gryffalio
10/31/2009, 06:43 am
If you actully go back to his house again, you will see that Morgans body has disappered, so i wonder if she is really dead or what has happened
My first thought was that Morgan could have been in league with a secondary antagonist (who by that time clearly wasn't de Singe). But then, despite the death & possible resurrection, I couldn't see the character (Morgan's) being used in that way. I don't think Monkey Island will ever have the serious gravitas to attempt a story-line like that. I should think she's definitely to re-appear, given Guybrush's own death and inevitable return. It would be a pity if she didn't given the extra dimension she brings & the light relief. Even if she was a bad-badguy.
But I agree, it was as much a shock to the system as Morgan cutting off Guybrush's hand was, if not more (as in where do we go from here as an ongoing saga?).
I never found the whole hand thing shocking. The hook really suited Guybrush's new surfer-dude hair, would be fun to keep it!
LeChuck most lkely didn't kill Morgan either. He was in jail the whole time.
Although we all know how easy it is to sneak past the frankly uninspired guards!
Morgan is probably not dead else why make a point of her body dissapearing.
My crazy theory: She might have been Lechuck's accomplice all that time and will come back next episode alive/undead.
This is what I thought at first. But then, I just can't see this being the case because I don't know how the character could be redeemed from such an action. I don't think it would suit the rest of the story for la Flay to have been an enemy in disguise. For me, there would be too many questions, though in theory I suppose they could be answered by the fact that de Singe had to make his breakthroughs before she could backstab Guybrush. Still, it was kinda nice having an eager, sassy fan of Guybrush and I feel sorry for the poor guy!
FitzoliverJ
10/31/2009, 06:47 am
Technically, Monkey Island 2 didn't end that way. Yeah, you get the scene with Guybrush ripping LeChuck's leg off (and his arm falling off and the dog taking it away) and "I am your brother" and all that, but the amusement park scene shows that LeChuck is just fine, and his zombie form isn't actually defeated until three months later (according to Stan, if you ask him to be your lawyer) at the start of the third game.
Hang on.. Stan said he was in the coffin for three months, but Elaine says that she didnt see Guybrush after the end of the second game for three *years*.
Bearing in mind that Wally managed to get through twelve installments of LeChuck's monthly guide on how to be a pirate by the time he meets Guybrush again in CMI, is he a fast reader or a very slow one?!
That's a terribly wrong statement.
Think of how many possible deaths there were in the Indy games. And anyway this is not a puzzle gone wrong, this is part of the plot. There's death as a plot point in The Dig, not to mention Grim Fandango, where Death itself IS the plot.
this is not my statement! its just a quote from MI3. It's what Mort the Gravedigger says after guybrush faked his own death to get into the Goodsoup family crypt.
so go tell him! ;)
morganlaflay
10/31/2009, 08:09 am
It couldn't have been DeSinge. 1, when he ran away, he didn't have an "OMG I just killed someone" kind of look, it was a truly terrified look. 2, he was in the jungle with Elaine, so neither of them could've disposed of her body.
LeChuck couldn't have killed her either. In order to arrive right when Elaine arrived, he would've had to go straight to the courthouse, and later he couldn't have either, because he was in jail.
We always knew where Elaine was, so she's also not a probable suspect.
I think Morgan killed herself. And that she's not actually dead. I mean, her body mysteriously disappeared, I don't think anyone would've had a reason to go up to the doctor's place to remove her body, other than the characters that are known to have been doing something else. Also, she was "alive" for quite a while. She had a message from Jacques, and there were plans for DeSinge's machine in the room---I think this ties in some how. Oh well, guess we'll have to wait until the next episode to find out what happens. I think Guybrush has to come back because Elaine is in no position to save herself. Unless Morgan reappears then... But still, killing off the main character? Seems unlikely.
let's say the monkey did it!
Voodoomaster
10/31/2009, 08:18 am
However...this ending was LEGENDARY !!! (Barney Stinson's style)
it definitely was a great ending... does someone remember Morgans last words though?
LewisKerr
10/31/2009, 08:41 am
Could the Voodoo Lady have killed Morgan?
Mermaid
10/31/2009, 08:46 am
Could the Voodoo Lady have killed Morgan?
Yes. Morgan's presence was a threat to fate's development for Guybrush / Elaine / LeChuck so she was killed by her. At least, I think that would make sense.
Gryffalio
10/31/2009, 08:47 am
LeChuck couldn't have killed her either. In order to arrive right when Elaine arrived, he would've had to go straight to the courthouse, and later he couldn't have either, because he was in jail.
LeChuck isn't as smart as Guybrush. But then the guard at the prison was fairly stupid. It's possible.
Definitely funny-business in re: Morgan disappearing. She's probably in on what's happening.
darknessofheart
10/31/2009, 08:55 am
Well, it would fit if LeChuck did murder Morgan. That would mean he was in the lab and would see the plans for the wind device. That would explain how he knew to go to it at the end of the chapter. Either that or he was working with De Singe the whole time or perhaps used the voodoo lady's journal to see the future.
thehardmenpath
10/31/2009, 09:01 am
this is not my statement! its just a quote from MI3. It's what Mort the Gravedigger says after guybrush faked his own death to get into the Goodsoup family crypt.
so go tell him! ;)
Lol. Sorry!
In order to add a bit to the discussion, do you know what I would LOVE?
I would love to start next episode playing Morgan right when Guybrush leaves her. Or a bit earlier so we know what happened to her.
Mataku
10/31/2009, 09:11 am
Hang on.. Stan said he was in the coffin for three months, but Elaine says that she didnt see Guybrush after the end of the second game for three *years*.
Bearing in mind that Wally managed to get through twelve installments of LeChuck's monthly guide on how to be a pirate by the time he meets Guybrush again in CMI, is he a fast reader or a very slow one?!
This. I noticed that too.Maybe the secret of monkey island is that it's the island from LOST, hence: time differences.
sturm
10/31/2009, 09:26 am
Well maybe ... *spoiler*
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guybrush will wake up in the 9th underworld to meet glottis, and they will figure out, how to resurrect him
eskimo
10/31/2009, 09:45 am
(how do you make these fonts disguise thing, anyway?)
Use the tag [ spoiler ] and [ /spoiler ], but without the extra spaces.
johanbcn
10/31/2009, 10:48 am
The rowboat disappeared from next to the fire after her body disappeared so i assume we are to believe she made off on that? come to think of it im surprised at the number of red herrings in this game, expected the fire/oil/molten glass to come in useful
I kinda thought that too for a moment, until I remembered that you can tell Elaine in the last part that DeSinge killed Morgan; Poxed Elaine just mentions that maybe he's not that bad after all, and I can imagine with half the things she's been ranting about, she'd take credit if she ran Morgan through herself. '
Now Im giggling remembering her yelling at Morgan to stay away from Guybrush's pants. Heh.
The rowboat doesn't dissapear, it's still there but it has been 'sunk by angry pox-pirates' or so says Guybrush. Go next to the fire and look in the water.
EDIT:
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7991/tomirowboat.th.png (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/tomirowboat.png/)
munak991
10/31/2009, 10:48 am
I think De Singe trick morgan that he had kidnapped Guybrush and stabbed Morgan.
GuruGuru214
10/31/2009, 11:29 am
Hang on.. Stan said he was in the coffin for three months, but Elaine says that she didnt see Guybrush after the end of the second game for three *years*.
Bearing in mind that Wally managed to get through twelve installments of LeChuck's monthly guide on how to be a pirate by the time he meets Guybrush again in CMI, is he a fast reader or a very slow one?!
I feel like I might've seen her say that before, but I can't remember her saying anything about it other than "I thought I'd lost you forever." Besides, Guybrush gives his age as 19 in the Phatt City library, and when he has Dinghy Dog guess his age in Curse, he's 20.
Besides, if the Carnival of the Damned had been an in-game puzzle and not an in-between games event, no self-respecting adventure gamer would've taken three years to solve it.
coolsome
10/31/2009, 11:33 am
Hang on.. Stan said he was in the coffin for three months, but Elaine says that she didnt see Guybrush after the end of the second game for three *years*.
I assumed she was exaurating to get him in trouble cos of the pox
feverfew
10/31/2009, 11:53 am
I was completely shaken by this episode - in an awesome way. I never thought so much can happen in just one episode - allies become foes, the world upside down, Morgan and Guybrush dead...
Although 90% of me screams for Guybrush to be resurrected in any way possible, there's still about 10% that says.. well, dying is dying. It's final. Even LeChuck wasn't truly immortal, as he was an undead corpse, as far away from actual living as one gets. Sure, the Voodoo Lady's knick-knacks brought Rapp Scallion back from the dead, but only for a minute. And somehow, deep down, I really wouldn't like Guybrush to be revived by voodoo. It would equate him with LeChuck in a way. I would take his death, but only if Elaine REALLY kicked LeChuck's ass from Melee to Monkey and through all the islands inbetween. That way, it would be worthy.
As for the resurrection possibility, I hope it won't be his hand. La Esponja Grande sucked up all the Pox, so there is no reason for the hand to stand poxed any longer. Probably, it'll just wither away and die.
However...this ending was LEGENDARY !!! (Barney Stinson's style)
This ending was legen.. wait for it..dary!!!!
I think Morgan is on the screaming Narwahl with Winslow!
and Guybrush will be healed by his own hand whitch got a little "however desinge called it" in.
have to go
can´t wait to episode 5 :)
Deny
Mataku
10/31/2009, 12:54 pm
have you guys noticed that telltale seems to go against us? after chapter 2 everybody was talking about the pyrite parrot, and BAM, next chapter, he's gone. We loved how well Winslow's character is developing, and they practically disabled him completly (almost nowhere in ch.3 and in ch4 on TSN and unseen throughout.) We started loving Morgan and they bloody kill her! Why must they go against everything we love?
Rebirth
10/31/2009, 01:03 pm
i thnk its cool to se how the pot has involved, and they realy picked up the idea of the voodoo lady being the real villan^^
but i think its the first time a friend of the main charakter died in one of the LA/TT games.... or even the main charakter himself....but guybrush cant die he is a mighty pirate
Nimeni
10/31/2009, 01:31 pm
I'm surprised no one is talking about the jus de vie. Maybe I just have the wrong thread. It just seems that if we're using the pox to make eternal life, it could be used to resurrect fallen characters-- or perhaps even already has. I haven't ruled out the possibility that de Singe snuck away at some point to experiment on Morgan's corpse and see if she could be brought back. I also haven't ruled out that she never really died in the first place. I saw a distinct lack of checking of pulses in both deaths.
As for who killed Morgan, definitely don't think it was de Singe. There's some sort of underlying plot here involving the monkeys, perhaps, even, dare I say it . . . the secret of monkey island!!! (Apparently I do dare say it). Point is, Morgan's murder is clearly tied to that underlying plot, and not the more superficial ones of de Singe and Elaine. I'm not ruling out LeChuck, because clearly there is more going on with him than meets the eye.
Mataku
10/31/2009, 01:36 pm
^ yhea, but if le esponja cleared the pox, shouldn't the poxed hand be healed as well?
Nachtnebel
10/31/2009, 01:55 pm
^ yhea, but if le esponja cleared the pox, shouldn't the poxed hand be healed as well?
I don't think the poxed hand ever came in contact with La Esponja. Remember, it was with DeSinge by the time Guybrush found it.
Mataku
10/31/2009, 01:58 pm
^wat? The esponja cleared EVERYONE from the pox with the winds. Unless the hand had a windshield infront of it, i don't see how it wasn't affected.
Nachtnebel
10/31/2009, 01:59 pm
Didn't the hand hide behind/under the Idol? That seems to be a good place not to get hit by the winds.
Secar
10/31/2009, 02:05 pm
but i think its the first time a friend of the main charakter died in one of the LA/TT games.... or even the main charakter himself....but guybrush cant die he is a mighty pirate
The whole scene reminded me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA_FpPhgbwE
Starting from 1:44.
Sir Pantalones
10/31/2009, 02:07 pm
Maybe the hand isn't poxed the way the others were. It was in direct contact with LeChuck, rather than indirect.
vanjjmmjjels
10/31/2009, 02:08 pm
lol
sturm
10/31/2009, 02:11 pm
But there is one thing I didn`t understand. Why did the Jus de Vie lost its power, after the turban fell off? I mean it was working, when DeSinge got his finger broken by LeFlay in the Bar. And he wasn`t wearing any strange turban then.
MasterofsqueezyFurballs
10/31/2009, 02:32 pm
Lol. Sorry!
In order to add a bit to the discussion, do you know what I would LOVE?
I would love to start next episode playing Morgan right when Guybrush leaves her. Or a bit earlier so we know what happened to her.Arrr, that be an interesting twist, me fellow-swashbuckler (Vantage Point inspired?). :)
I'd love to see Guybrush's hand reviving him - single handed so to say - by performing some first aid stuff like a heart massage etc. :D
108 Stars
10/31/2009, 02:33 pm
But there is one thing I didn`t understand. Why did the Jus de Vie lost its power, after the turban fell off? I mean it was working, when DeSinge got his finger broken by LeFlay in the Bar. And he wasn`t wearing any strange turban then.
That is a great cosmic mystery. Or a logical error by Telltale Games.^^
But hey, such errors can be found in any movie or TV series too, so just let it go. :)
The Commissioner
10/31/2009, 02:35 pm
That is a great cosmic mystery. Or a logical error by Telltale Games.^^
But hey, such errors can be found in any movie or TV series too, so just let it go. :)
Didn't he extract some Jus in a cut-scene in a previous episode as a test?
coolsome
10/31/2009, 02:36 pm
But there is one thing I didn`t understand. Why did the Jus de Vie lost its power, after the turban fell off? I mean it was working, when DeSinge got his finger broken by LeFlay in the Bar. And he wasn`t wearing any strange turban then.
mabey he had enough in his system to fix a minor wound but not a big one
Tyraa Rane
10/31/2009, 02:38 pm
I'm surprised no one is talking about the jus de vie. Maybe I just have the wrong thread. It just seems that if we're using the pox to make eternal life, it could be used to resurrect fallen characters-- or perhaps even already has.
I thought about that (at least in Morgan's case), but that creates another problem: when de Singe lost his steady supply of the Jus de Vie, he started to die from his wounds. So...even if Guybrush and Morgan were resurrected, if they weren't constantly supplied with the Jus de Vie (until their wounds healed, at least?), then wouldn't they just die again?
MasterofsqueezyFurballs
10/31/2009, 02:40 pm
mabey he had enough in his system to fix a minor wound but not a big oneWOUND? I wouldn't call getting-atomized a WOUND. :D
sturm
10/31/2009, 02:46 pm
So we have to wave farewell to them both.
Goodbye.
RIP.
Hasta la vista.
Greet Calavera, when you see him.
They`ve become one with the force.
Left for good.
Meet their root beer.
They will live forever in our hearts.
Got their Double-N tickets.
Met their creator.
Good Riddance.
They are dust in the wind now.
Performing the skeleton dance.
(please add your last wishes ;-) )
coolsome
10/31/2009, 02:49 pm
WOUND? I wouldn't call getting-atomized a WOUND. :D
I ment the stab to the chest as the wound part XD cos that was coming back but if you cut his cheak it dont return.
its to bad hes the only doctor on the island cos he could really use it after getting shreaded
MasterofsqueezyFurballs
10/31/2009, 02:55 pm
I ment the stab to the chest as the wound part XD cos that was coming back but if you cut his cheak it dont return.
its to bad hes the only doctor on the island cos he could really use it after getting shreadedReminds me of a Star Trek TOS quote: "Great Doctor, heal yourself!" :DSo we have to wave farewell to them both.
Goodbye.
RIP.
Hasta la vista.
Greet Calavera, when you see him.
They`ve become one with the force.
Left for good.
Meet their root beer.
They will live forever in our hearts.
Got their Double-N tickets.
Met their creator.
Good Riddance.
They are dust in the wind now.
Performing the skeleton dance.
(please add your last wishes ;-) )
Bought Stan's last coffin.
Weared their last fine leather-jackets.
De-cursed their last ghost-zombie-pirate.
Spent their last 10 minutes below the surface.
Drank their final Grog-a-tini.
Swallowed their ultimate insult.
Kissed their monkeys-goodbye.
Lived long and (nearly) prosper!
Got flushed through their personal Chron-o-John.
Experienced their last seagull poo on their mighty-piratey-head.
Went down (without a ship).
Relived the short lifespan of a hamster in a microwave.
Enjoyed their last time on ROSEBUD.
Went where many have gone before.
Got kicked from the second biggest feet they've ever seen.
Took a long walk off a short plank.
Swam (not) with the fishes.
Saw their personal threeheaded monkey for the last time.
And still I think (and hope) they are (not) really gone. :)
sturm
10/31/2009, 03:13 pm
drank from the WRONG Holy Grail tm copyright by LucasArts and Special Effects Department
took their final ride into the sunset
have a date with the coroner
nobody was faster on the draw
johanbcn
10/31/2009, 04:41 pm
I really wouldn't like Guybrush to be revived by voodoo. It would equate him with LeChuck in a way.
Well, they're brothers after all :)
GuruGuru214
11/01/2009, 12:47 am
Well, they're brothers after all :)
You know, the "brothers" thing is probably just as much a lie as the Big Whoop Carnival/Carnival of the Damned was. Just part of a plot to trap Guybrush forever.
johanbcn
11/01/2009, 01:38 am
You know, the "brothers" thing is probably just as much a lie as the Big Whoop Carnival/Carnival of the Damned was. Just part of a plot to trap Guybrush forever.
And yet he did a functional Voodoo doll of LeChuck with his own parent's bones?
I think there will be a visual "flashback" in chapter 5 of what happened to Morgan.
And maybe Morgan and Guybrush aren't really dead, just wound and faint (the disappeared body of Morgan makes me think, where is her now? Dead or alive?).
Time will tell.
If Guybrush is dead, will chapter 5 be played as Elaine? I don't think so. But, who knows.
:)
Byakko
11/01/2009, 02:20 am
I think there will be a visual "flashback" in chapter 5 of what happened to Morgan.
And maybe Morgan and Guybrush aren't really dead, just wound and faint (the disappeared body of Morgan makes me think, where is her now? Dead or alive?).
Time will tell.
If Guybrush is dead, will chapter 5 be played as Elaine? I don't think so. But, who knows.
:)
You'll get confirmation on a couple of those questions in the recent post about the Nintendo Power article. It reveals so much about Chapter 4's cliffhangers that they barely qualify now >.>
Liam A Willetts
11/01/2009, 03:12 am
Maybee the strange machine in the voodoo ladys house was rescued and elaine has to use it to turn back time?
Irishmile
11/01/2009, 09:07 am
Maybe Guybrush's strain of virus needs direct contact with the sponge, because he had direct contact with LeChuck when he got it.
Irishmile
11/01/2009, 09:10 am
But there is one thing I didn`t understand. Why did the Jus de Vie lost its power, after the turban fell off? I mean it was working, when DeSinge got his finger broken by LeFlay in the Bar. And he wasn`t wearing any strange turban then.
maybe he was wearing it as a diaper then ::barf::
Sir Jonathan VanBradford
11/01/2009, 09:18 am
Maybe Guybrush's strain of virus needs direct contact with the sponge, because he had direct contact with LeChuck when he got it.
DeSinge said that Elaine had the same strain as Guybrush so the sponge shouldn't have worked for her as well without direct contact.
feverfew
11/01/2009, 09:29 am
Maybe we should take Esponja's immaturity into consideration. Maybe it just needed some time to grow into a powerful mojo sucker.
Hermitboy
11/01/2009, 09:46 am
DeSinge said that Elaine had the same strain as Guybrush so the sponge shouldn't have worked for her as well without direct contact.
Maybe DeSinge didn't understand that part. Elaine may have gotten the pox from being near the blast, but without actually touching LeChuck she didn't have the same strain.
So the scientist made a faulty assumption due to the lack of complete facts.
I imagine it is possible that GT's hand may still be wandering around because it needed direct contact with the sponge. Then again, it may just be a dead hand now.
Although I wanted to believe that LeChuck was good, when you tell him that the Voodoo lady gave you a menu to enlarge the sponge he just says "Great" or whatever. I would've thought that he'd warn you against her after that.
Rather Dashing
11/01/2009, 10:17 am
DeSinge said that Elaine had the same strain as Guybrush so the sponge shouldn't have worked for her as well without direct contact.
Huh? I don't think you understand how the sponge works.
The reason the sponge sucked up the voodoo all over the Caribbean was that it was being used in conjunction with the giant sucking machine. It sucked in the air, pulling in the voodoo. The Sponge gets in contact with the voodoo, starts soaking it up like crazy.
GuruGuru214
11/01/2009, 03:48 pm
And yet he did a functional Voodoo doll of LeChuck with his own parent's bones?
Well, assuming LeChuck was lying about the brothers thing and deceived him into believing he was a little kid at a carnival, it's entirely possible that those weren't Guybrush's parent's skeletons or that LeChuck was feigning being affected by the voodoo doll. The maintenance worker's reaction seems to be a pretty good demonstration that Guybrush was already under the Carnival of the Damned spell by the time he ripped LeChuck's leg off. If I had to guess, I would say that nothing after the first time LeChuck used the voodoo doll was real.
Besides, how many people do you know who would recognize two skeletons as belonging to their parents?
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