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thin029
02/19/2010, 04:35 pm
So, what is Monkey Island called in your language? How different is its logo? Post your pics too!
This is my Brazilian Portuguese EFMI CD:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u83/Thin029/001.jpg

Macfly77
02/19/2010, 05:07 pm
Oddly, just the English name for my French version (but disappointingly, only French voices!).

http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1176&d=1266631548

thin029
02/19/2010, 05:33 pm
Oh, they didn't mind changing the logo but there was French voice acting?
It's a shame the Brazilian version doesn't have Portuguese voices, they're English with Portuguese subtitles. I actually like to hear it in my language

Also, Curse:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u83/Thin029/001-1.jpg

Avistew
02/19/2010, 05:45 pm
Yeah, the French ones had the names in English with a translation.

Like with Curse: http://www.monkeyisland.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/the-curse-of-monkey-island-234x300.jpg

You can read "La Malédiction de l'Île aux Singes" on the left side, which is the translation. But they kept the original title and logo.

In-game, Monkey Island is referred to as L'Île aux Singes (since all the voices are in French) so it's weird that just the title would be different, but I guess they didn't want to change the logo?

Uzrname
02/19/2010, 08:25 pm
I think they did the same thing with Grim Fandango in the French version, although on one of the screens while loading the second disk it says "Fandango macabre" or "Fandango lugubre" (don't remember).

Avistew
02/19/2010, 10:11 pm
I think they did the same thing with Grim Fandango in the French version, although on one of the screens while loading the second disk it says "Fandango macabre" or "Fandango lugubre" (don't remember).

I remember that in Curse they called it "Le Fandango noir". But it was released as Grim Fandango for sure.
Actually, Hit the Road, Full Throttle and DOTT have untranslated titles too. I'm not sure about the Indiana Jones games though.

(Incidentally, the French translation of DOTT is horrible. They constrantly use the wrong gender for the word "tentacle", and they call Purple tentacle "pourpre", when "pourpre" is red, not purple, most likely just because it sounds similar.)

Javi-Wan Kenobi
02/20/2010, 01:55 pm
In Spain, the three first games kept the original names and logos without any subtitle or translation, and "Escape from Monkey Island" was translated as "La Fuga de Monkey Island"
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dYajgcQZZ70/SQ4CJ3POVwI/AAAAAAAAAIo/-CnjumgRC8o/s400/La_Fuga_De_Monkey_Island___Frontal_por_makser+-+pc.jpg
In fact, it was the only Lucasarts game who had a translated title in Spain

Astro Gnocci
02/20/2010, 02:29 pm
(Incidentally, the French translation of DOTT is horrible. They constrantly use the wrong gender for the word "tentacle", and they call Purple tentacle "pourpre", when "pourpre" is red, not purple, most likely just because it sounds similar.)

Compared to a lot of the translations we get, i'd say those are pretty minor flaws.
Don't remember how DOTT's was on the whole, though, i haven't played that in ages.. Guess i should try and find it back.

Avistew
02/20/2010, 04:03 pm
Compared to a lot of the translations we get, i'd say those are pretty minor flaws.
Don't remember how DOTT's was on the whole, though, i haven't played that in ages.. Guess i should try and find it back.

Well... They irked me. The word "tentacle" is used often enough, and they didn't even check its gender? And seeing a purple tentacle and having it called red constantly is just an insult to your intelligence >.>

I couldn't say what the rest was like. After seeing these mistakes I went to play it in English instead. It's possible it was a great translation apart from these two things, I guess, but when you make mistakes on stuff like that it's hard to imagine you wouldn't make even more mistakes on the harder stuff to translate accurately.

LogicDeLuxe
02/21/2010, 06:42 pm
German:
http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1116362561-00.jpg
It's the only Monkey Island title where they changed the logo slightly.

There is one other LucasArts adventure, though:
http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1207160364-00.jpg

While they don't change titles otherwise in German versions, "Fate of Atlantis" is titled "Das Schicksal von Atlantis" in the savegame menu, and only there.

Hayden
02/21/2010, 11:18 pm
German:
http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1116362561-00.jpg
It's the only Monkey Island title where they changed the logo slightly.


Wow! I never knew that "MobyGames" meant "Monkey Island" in German!

Little Writer
02/21/2010, 11:43 pm
I strongly dislike French versions. I once bought a copy of Full Throttle on eBay: in all outward appearances it was English, until I installed it. French only! Maddening.

I feel the same about Dutch versions. There you go buying a game with English titles and everything (had this experience with "The Longest Journey" and "Experience 112") only to find out all the voices are dubbed! That's what you get for not reading the fine print on the box.

Ripcord
02/21/2010, 11:46 pm
For some reason I find stuff like this fascinating.

I think there should be a site somewhere that catalogs the box covers for each of the games from different locales. Heck, I'd donate the space/bandwidth =)

Avistew
02/22/2010, 12:00 am
I strongly dislike French versions. I once bought a copy of Full Throttle on eBay: in all outward appearances it was English, until I installed it. French only! Maddening.

Oh, I remember once I bought a DVD only to find out it was French-dub only O.O
I had never seen that before with a DVD. I always checked VHS to make sure they were subtitled and not dubbed, but DVDs normally always have the original language. I was so annoyed.
It happened to me twice, actually. Once with a James Bond movie (the one where the actor for Bond was dubbed in English, which is probably the reason) and one with a season of Dr Who.
Both were returned as fast as humanly possible.

I'm used to translated games but I like having the option. That's the good thing with European releases, you can play them in a whole variety of languages. Of course, many games are Japanese so it's a translation anyways, but at least you get to choose your favourite one. Plus I'm almost sure that they tend to translate games from a translation and not the original Japanese. It's ridiculous, they translate manga directly from Japanese, why can't they do that for games? A translation of a translation is, well, not ideal.

However, I recently discovered something weird. I had Curse of Monkey Island installed on my computer in French and my husband had the CD in English, or the opposite. We put the CD of the version that was not installed, and it worked anyways. Can't remember in which language though...

prizna
02/22/2010, 12:28 am
I want to see the irish version:

"The Secret of Monkey Ireland"

Avistew
02/22/2010, 12:51 am
I'd rather see the Secret of Monkey Iceland.

prizna
02/22/2010, 12:54 am
"The Secret of Monkey Pieland"

Little Writer
02/22/2010, 01:26 am
"The Secret of Money Island"

Astro Gnocci
02/22/2010, 02:30 am
Oh, I remember once I bought a DVD only to find out it was French-dub only O.O
I had never seen that before with a DVD. I always checked VHS to make sure they were subtitled and not dubbed, but DVDs normally always have the original language. I was so annoyed.
It happened to me twice, actually. Once with a James Bond movie (the one where the actor for Bond was dubbed in English, which is probably the reason) and one with a season of Dr Who.
Both were returned as fast as humanly possible.

Yeah, this happens, mostly on cheap editions that just don't bother. Kinda got used to that with the really bad Z-movies we find sometimes (which are even funnier due to the awful dubbing anyway).

Visstix
02/22/2010, 07:06 am
I hate dubbing.. Even on cartoons, I learned english by watching cartoons, and playing videogames. Now every cartoon is dutch. it just feels fake. And it doesn't help children to learn english. not that I still watch cartoons........:rolleyes:

Astro Gnocci
02/22/2010, 07:58 am
Well i thought you guys almost never got dubs ?
Talked to a few dutch people over the internet, all of them's english was pretty good and all of them told me they'd learned basically the way you did, and the mere idea of dubbing movies seemed crazy to them.
And i thought that was great.
Is that changing ?

apenpaap
02/22/2010, 08:13 am
Children's thing are usually dubbed (badly), but most teenage/adult things are subtitled.

LogicDeLuxe
02/22/2010, 09:57 am
I think there should be a site somewhere that catalogs the box covers for each of the games from different locales.There is: http://www.mobygames.com/home

DjNDB
02/22/2010, 10:21 am
I like the South Korean Monkey Island 2 Logo (http://lucasarts.vintagegaming.org/index.php?do=item&itemid=284&gameid=7#Monkey%20Island%202:%20LeChuck%27s%20Reve nge).

Hassat Hunter
02/22/2010, 10:56 am
Well i thought you guys almost never got dubs ?
Talked to a few dutch people over the internet, all of them's english was pretty good and all of them told me they'd learned basically the way you did, and the mere idea of dubbing movies seemed crazy to them.
And i thought that was great.
Is that changing ?
Not that I know off... then again, I never really watched cartoons.
Actually, it seems more and more disney movies are now shown on TV in english with subs unlike the dutch it was back when I was still watching TV.
I do remember there was a major outrage when they decided to dub "Black&White" and they had to make an english patch just for us. Most games that allow dutch also allow english anyway, and I see no reason why not to pick that superior option. It's nice for children when dutch is available though. I remember being like 5 and getting 2 games, Emergency (Dutch) and Lego Island (English). Being 5, I couldn't really figure out what to do in that kids game... :? (And now I am too old to care :D).

Little Writer
02/23/2010, 01:14 am
I hate dubbing.. Even on cartoons, I learned english by watching cartoons, and playing videogames. Now every cartoon is dutch. it just feels fake. And it doesn't help children to learn english. not that I still watch cartoons........:rolleyes:

Moreso because it isn't normal when something dubbed in your mother tongue actually becomes harder to understand than the original. No offense, but Dutch voice actors are masters in high, squeaky, ADHDish, all-over-the-place type voices.

Visstix
02/23/2010, 06:42 am
No offense, but Dutch voice actors are masters in high, squeaky, ADHDish, all-over-the-place type voices.

Yeah Spongebob sounds alright in dutch.

Hassat Hunter
02/23/2010, 09:34 am
No offense, but Dutch voice actors are masters in high, squeaky, ADHDish, all-over-the-place type voices.
None taken.
Maybe you guys should subtitle Dutch like we always subtitle Belgian speaking programs/people? :p

Ripcord
02/23/2010, 01:08 pm
then again, I never really watched cartoons.

What??? Maybe it's different for the Hollandaise, but to me that's like saying "as a child, I never ate breakfast" or "as a child, I didn't play games of any kind", or "as a child, I mostly spent my time preparing other people's taxes. I was especially fond of forms involving property abatements".

Hassat Hunter
02/23/2010, 02:00 pm
Meh, just some of the Disney. The rest was pretty sucky. It's only worse for today's youth. No wonder all kids are such a pain in the...

Well, actually now I am kind of wondering what the hell I was doing as a kid. Not watching TV, not playing videogames (yet), certainly not playing outside. Huh...

DjNDB
02/23/2010, 11:44 pm
Well, actually now I am kind of wondering what the hell I was doing as a kid. Not watching TV, not playing videogames (yet), certainly not playing outside. Huh...
Extended childhood amnesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood_amnesia)?

Todesreiter
02/24/2010, 12:56 pm
how about this one...

http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/DS/11547_the_secret_of_monkey_island_ds.png

Hassat Hunter
02/24/2010, 01:34 pm
Extended childhood amnesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood_amnesia)?
Pretty much. Can't remember much from before 10, wish I couldn't remember anything after that, but sadly... that ain't the case.

Avistew
02/24/2010, 06:20 pm
how about this one...

http://www.vgboxart.com/boxes/DS/11547_the_secret_of_monkey_island_ds.png

I want it!

Didero
02/24/2010, 11:45 pm
Just get a flashcart, a good sized memory card, and ScummVM DS (http://scummvm.drunkencoders.com/). It works pretty well on my DS :)

Still, if LucasArts really made a DS version, I'd still buy it. The cover should be a bit more like the original though, in my opinion.

Avistew
02/25/2010, 12:08 am
Just get a flashcart, a good sized memory card, and ScummVM DS (http://scummvm.drunkencoders.com/). It works pretty well on my DS :)

I would, but I'd need to buy one of these expensive things you use instead of a DS game. And as previously stated, they cost a lot. There isn't enough use I could get from one to justify the price unless I was to play games I don't actually own.

Didero
02/25/2010, 01:30 am
I would, but I'd need to buy one of these expensive things you use instead of a DS game. And as previously stated, they cost a lot. There isn't enough use I could get from one to justify the price unless I was to play games I don't actually own.
That's what I meant with 'flashcart' :)
And they're about as expensive as an official DS game.
It also allows you to use a lot of 'homebrew' programs on your DS. For instance, I use it sometimes as a music player (including for MI music :p). Of course, a real MP3 player works better, but I don't have a need for one frequently enough to buy one.

An official DS version of Monkey Island would work better though, I think. As long as I can carry MI around with me :p

Avistew
02/25/2010, 02:49 am
And they're about as expensive as an official DS game.

Really? So, like 30 dollars or something? When I did look at them, the only ones I found were more like 100 euros. Yikes!
Considering I tend to buy my games second hand (and around 5 bucks if I can although often it end up being more like 10), that would have taken a lot of free domain games to be worth it lol.

But if it's 30 dollars, about 5 games on it and it starts being a good investment. Of course I'd need to have a micro memory card as well but it's not like I couldn't use that for anything else.

I'll look into it. Any website you can direct me that has non-copyrighted games or applications so I can see if there is anything I'd be interested in?
(And do you know of a place that sells empty DS boxes so I'd have a place to store my card? Actually for that last one, I'd love it if you knew of a place you can puchase a DS case that's a normal size but has like 4 or 6 spots for putting a DS game in it. I love the shape and size of the DS boxes but for just one game it's too big. But I don't want to keep my game in just the small plastic thingies either, I'd love something in between).

Didero
02/25/2010, 03:50 am
Really? So, like 30 dollars or something? When I did look at them, the only ones I found were more like 100 euros. Yikes!
Considering I tend to buy my games second hand (and around 5 bucks if I can although often it end up being more like 10), that would have taken a lot of free domain games to be worth it lol.

But if it's 30 dollars, about 5 games on it and it starts being a good investment. Of course I'd need to have a micro memory card as well but it's not like I couldn't use that for anything else.

I've got an M3 Real, and looking at the list of Canadian/US sellers (http://www.m3adapter.com/global_sell_net.htm#America), they appear to be slightly under $40.
Also, I bought a 16 GB microSD card a year ago to go along with it, which was about €20 then. 16 GB is far more than you'd realistically need. I can store about 100 DS games on it. A 2 or 4 GB microSD card should be large enough for normal use, which should be cheaper.
You might want to look for a deal that includes the memory expansion pack. It's extra RAM for the DS, that goes in the GBA slot. It's useless for the DSi since it doesn't have that slot anymore, but if you've got an older model DS, you can play Full Throttle and other memory-intensive classic adventure games with ScummVM DS. It's not needed to play MI 1 and 2, but it can be useful.
I'll look into it. Any website you can direct me that has non-copyrighted games or applications so I can see if there is anything I'd be interested in?

I don't know of a clear list, but this forum (http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showforum=177) is about homebrew applications, so you're bound to find some info there.

(And do you know of a place that sells empty DS boxes so I'd have a place to store my card? Actually for that last one, I'd love it if you knew of a place you can puchase a DS case that's a normal size but has like 4 or 6 spots for putting a DS game in it. I love the shape and size of the DS boxes but for just one game it's too big. But I don't want to keep my game in just the small plastic thingies either, I'd love something in between).
You might want to look into DS cases. They're boxes or bags where you can store your DS, along with a few games.
Another benefit of a flashcart is that you can put ROMs of games you already own on it (or make them yourself, if you know how), so you only have to take along the flashcart, and not a case full of game cartridges. (I don't know how legal this is though. But you already bought the game anyway, so it's not really pirating)


*Looks up*
Holy off-topic conversation, Batman!
:p

Avistew
02/25/2010, 04:34 am
Thanks!

You might want to look into DS cases. They're boxes or bags where you can store your DS, along with a few games.

I have one, but I don't like it. It's all small and has room for the DS and to cram some games (just the games, mind you, no room for the manuals). Then there are the briefcase-like ones that I like better but they tend to look like they're made to hold one game per square meter (and still no room for the manuals. Do people throw their manuals away or something?).

I've long thought about designing my own, but it's kind of pointless since I'd never be able to actually make it.
Oh well, maybe when I'm rich and famous I can hire someone to do it for me.

(And I have a DS Lite. I don't think I'll buy a DSi, it looks too much like "we took the DS, added useless stuff and took out important stuff" to me.)

Didero
02/25/2010, 06:12 am
I have one, but I don't like it. It's all small and has room for the DS and to cram some games (just the games, mind you, no room for the manuals). Then there are the briefcase-like ones that I like better but they tend to look like they're made to hold one game per square meter (and still no room for the manuals. Do people throw their manuals away or something?).

I think most people don't take their manuals with them all the time. Most games have a tutorial anyway, so you don't always need the manual. But for some games it's useful, yeah.
I don't think I've ever seen a DS case large enough to store manuals in.
(And I have a DS Lite. I don't think I'll buy a DSi, it looks too much like "we took the DS, added useless stuff and took out important stuff" to me.)
The DSi's screen is slightly larger, but the screen of the DS Lite is by no means too small, so it's not really a necessary upgrade. And the removal of the GBA port means, among other things, that the memory pack I mentioned doesn't work with it. So I'm gonna stick to my trusty DS Lite too. :)

Avistew
02/25/2010, 08:24 am
Yeah, although I keep my GBA on hand to play gameboy games, I like being able to play GBA games on my DS. It's easier to handle, being bigger and stuff.

I don't want the manuals to use them :P But I'm looking for storage to keep the games in at home, not for traveling. And I don't want to throw the manuals away.
As it is I keep the original boxes and all, but I just feel there has to be a better way to use the space. As it is the boxes are much too big for just one game. And while they leave a GBA slot for a game, they don't have room on the cover to add the name of the game so how do you know what's inside? It's annoying having to open every boxes before you can find the GBA game you were looking for.

But I can be very weird about how I want stuff organised. That's why I'm saying if I had the money I'd have some kind of big case designed especially for that. I guess it could double as a carrying case if I wanted to take all of my games with me but really I mostly want storage that's more space-efficient.

TheHutt
02/25/2010, 10:13 am
The German logos have just the standard English titles; however, on "Curse of Monkey Island" they added a monkey with a sign "Monkey Island 3" on it. And they suddenly translated "Escape from Monkey Island" to "Flucht von Monkey Island".

http://s52.radikal.ru/i136/1002/a2/ea5de8f430d2t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s52.radikal.ru/i136/1002/a2/ea5de8f430d2.jpg)http://s39.radikal.ru/i086/1002/6f/e236bc3e7717t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s39.radikal.ru/i086/1002/6f/e236bc3e7717.jpg)
http://s60.radikal.ru/i168/1002/d8/5e83b8f8ec56t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s60.radikal.ru/i168/1002/d8/5e83b8f8ec56.jpg)http://i058.radikal.ru/1002/2a/456efd5658bdt.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i058.radikal.ru/1002/2a/456efd5658bd.jpg)

Didero
02/25/2010, 10:56 am
Yeah, although I keep my GBA on hand to play gameboy games, I like being able to play GBA games on my DS. It's easier to handle, being bigger and stuff.
I don't own any GBA games, so I don't have any experience with that. It does explain why I didn't think of them though :)
I don't want the manuals to use them :P But I'm looking for storage to keep the games in at home, not for traveling. And I don't want to throw the manuals away.
As it is I keep the original boxes and all, but I just feel there has to be a better way to use the space. As it is the boxes are much too big for just one game. And while they leave a GBA slot for a game, they don't have room on the cover to add the name of the game so how do you know what's inside? It's annoying having to open every boxes before you can find the GBA game you were looking for.
Oh, I misunderstood you then, I thought you wanted a travelling case.
Yeah, the DS boxes are rather big for such a small cartridge. I don't have too many DS games though, so it's not that much of a problem for me, but I can see how it can become one with a sizeable collection. I didn't know you could store GBA games in DS boxes though, interesting.
I don't think there are cases specifically designed to store a large collection of games and manuals, especially not GBA games. Sounds like a good idea though.


On topic, I'm glad covers here are kept in English. I'm not entirely sure about manuals though, but I'm pretty sure they never dubbed the games to Dutch, luckily.

Avistew
02/25/2010, 10:07 pm
Oh, I misunderstood you then, I thought you wanted a travelling case.
Yeah, the DS boxes are rather big for such a small cartridge. I don't have too many DS games though, so it's not that much of a problem for me, but I can see how it can become one with a sizeable collection. I didn't know you could store GBA games in DS boxes though, interesting.

If you look at the case, over where you put the DS game there is room which is perfect for a GBA game. I really liked the idea since GBA boxes are made of carboard and tend to get smashed so I don't have many left.

I don't have that many games, especially now that I've moved to Canada and took the "bare minimum" along with me. But I can be a bit weird about waste. I'd be fine with going to a fancy restaurant a spending a fortune, but if I spend 10 cents on ramen, but am sick and throw it up, I'll feel bad for days, and not eat anything for the rest of the day to make up for it.

To some extent I'm the same with room. If things were more compact there would be more room for other things, or, better yet, I could live in a smaller place and there would be more room for the outside.

You know the cases for CDs that have pockets with room for a CD and its booklet? I'd really like something of the same kind, but with room for a DS manual and a smaller pocket for the DS game or something. Or you'd have a manual, two games in the middle vertically, and another manual. Something like that. It would also allow you to turn the pages to select a game, which I think would be more practical than looking at a shelf, especially since the European version of DS games tend to have no picture on the side of the case so you can't tell at a glance which game is which.

The case wouldn't need to have room for GBA games. A similar case with room for games and manuals, but GBA instead of DS, would work fine too.

Grulien
03/07/2010, 06:10 pm
There you go buying a game with English titles and everything (had this experience with "The Longest Journey" and "Experience 112") only to find out all the voices are dubbed! That's what you get for not reading the fine print on the box.

I agree, I always prefer to play games in their original language if availaible (with appropriate subtitles if I don't understand it). Anyway, "Experience 112" is a french game with a french title (the english localization title is "The Experiment") and original french dubbing. ;)

Avistew
03/07/2010, 07:02 pm
I agree, I always prefer to play games in their original language if availaible (with appropriate subtitles if I don't understand it). Anyway, "Experience 112" is a french game with a french title (the english localization title is "The Experiment") and original french dubbing. ;)

I think "Beyond Good and Evil" is another one that has an English sounding name but was originally made in French.