Your thoughts on surprise(!) Sam & Max Penal Zone iPad announcement? [Archive]

SlasherMan

04/02/2010, 08:56 am

Well what can I say I'm surprised, shocked maybe. Saw it first time in forums and thought it was april fools joke :rolleyes: that was before i went to iTunes and saw that listing :eek: I have an iPod touch and with no intentions on getting an iPad. I already pre ordered on PSN and I still have to wait until April 15th to get The Penal Zone and iPad guys just have to wait until April 3 :(

Rather Dashing

04/02/2010, 08:59 am

Slight annoyance, I'll have to avoid spoilers longer, but otherwise doesn't really affect me.

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 09:02 am

I think its great, while I am jealous that iPad gets it earlier, I think its a fantastic opportunity for TTG as a company to reach even more people and then grow as a company.

JedExodus

04/02/2010, 09:05 am

Apple owners have a lot of money, so it's good, particularly for launch day!

Finally Telltale will have the funds to finance "JedExodus: Sex Adventurer!"

Rather Dashing

04/02/2010, 09:12 am

Apple owners have a lot of money, so it's good, particularly for launch day!

Finally Telltale will have the funds to finance "JedExodus: Sex Adventurer!"
I'm not so sure. Your design document is pretty extensive, and the demands for that many characters on-screen at once could be really taxing on some of Telltale's release platforms.

Dangerzone

04/02/2010, 09:42 am

So already I have to wait till April 16th to play, because the managers of the playstation network are a bunch of lazy asses who never update the store before 6PM on Thursdays (I.E. 2 hours after I leave for work) ... Then I find out that my PSN pre-order does not grant me access to the Season 3 private forum

Now I find out that early iPad adapters get the game 2 weeks early, and that after tomorrow I have to avoid this site in fear of spoilers...

No, I'm not mad at all... Telltale has every right to make sure they are one of the first games available for the iPad... Yes, it's a reasonable business decision, and I'm sure the world would end if they waited 2 weeks and released it at the same time as the other platforms

Nope, I'm not mad at all...

*Kicks a trashcan across the room*

jadekitten5425

04/02/2010, 09:58 am

that's soo not right, i and many others already have you guys triple that amount and we have to wait 13 days and they don't?? i am NOT amused and i'm sure i'm not the only one

JedExodus

04/02/2010, 10:00 am

I'm not so sure. Your design document is pretty extensive, and the demands for that many characters on-screen at once could be really taxing on some of Telltale's release platforms.

Some would say extensive, I would say I just want to make the world well-realised. The characters count I may be able to compromise on, but the Mayan deity stays!!

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 10:01 am

I think some of you are being pretty darned selfish or just to not realize how big of an opportunity this was for TTG...

seson3churious

04/02/2010, 10:03 am

Nojh

04/02/2010, 10:05 am

I'm kinda mixed. I'm happy for TTG. I understand the business decision. But I also know that thanks to apple (and my current financial situation) I can't just go out tomorrow and buy an iPad, so only the people who pre-ordered it 3 months ago even have this opportunity. So its not like I ever had a chance anyway. But I still feel a little cheated especially since I pre-ordered the game as soon as I knew. Hell I may go buy the ep on the iPad even though I know I won't be able to play it for another few months... dunno.

jadekitten5425

04/02/2010, 10:06 am

I think some of you are being pretty darned selfish or just to not realize how big of an opportunity this was for TTG...
I'll admit i don't, but neither does my credit card

Chaosprower

04/02/2010, 10:06 am

Your thoughts on surprise(!) Sam & Max Penal Zone iPad announcement?

I don't mind that it is going to be on the iPad...but why does it get an early surprise release weeks after the pre-orders for the full season started?

jadekitten5425

04/02/2010, 10:09 am

I don't mind that it is going to be on the iPad...but why does it get an early surprise release weeks after the pre-orders started?

EXACTLY MY ISSUE! i don't mind the support itself at all

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 10:18 am

So what some of you are saying is that if TTG just gave you a copy of the game you would refuse to play it because it wouldn't be "fair" to the rest of us who pre-ordered?

jadekitten5425

04/02/2010, 10:25 am

well no of course i'd play it, not sure what that has to do with anything, i'm not mad at the players

Dangerzone

04/02/2010, 10:27 am

Yes its a huge opportunity... being one of the first applications for the iPad, and i am elated for them... but does waiting 2 weeks so the game can have a unified worldwide launch actually cost them anything? No, it doesn't

Normally i would not say anything, i am usually the quiet one round here. But unfair treatment always makes me want to speak out...

I am sick and tired of getting the short end of the stick when it comes to exclusivity deals, in my opinion they are killing video games as we know it... Not to mention the fact that I am NEVER part of the group that gets something early because of adopting a certain service or format... I am always one of the people being punished for my loyalty to another format and I am done with it, if I was able to cancel my PSN pre-order for S3 I would do so in a heartbeat!

Why? you ask? Because I was screwed by the GT deal when season one and two came out (anyone remember my timeless infraction-winning blowout in '07 over it?)... Because I could not get the GTA:IV expansions because I do not have an X360... Because I was screwed out of 15 bucks by Ubisoft on AC2 to buy expansions and maps I could have gotten for free if I had pre-ordered at Gamestop... Because I Had to buy a second copy of Lost Season 5 because I was unaware that Bestbuy had an exclusive edition... Because Spent over 30 bucks on little big planet add ons only to have the "game of the year edition" come out in secret a week later which offered them all for free... and now Because of this business with the iPad, shall I go on?

I am sick and tired of being screwed over and left behind by deals like this... everyone should get the same things at the same time for the same price no matter which format they use

If anyone disagrees, then you are probably always part of the group who gets something special, cheap, or early... and for that I hate you :mad:

Chaosprower

04/02/2010, 10:28 am

March: Preorders for the full season for PC and PS3 started...

Example: -"Oh My God! The preorders for the new Sam and Max started! I'm purchasing it right away!".

Me: -"Alright! I'll preorder it for PS3...I'll charge my PSN wallet...wait, why isn't it available on the EU store? What I do with my PSN wallet now?...(two weeks later) Oh! It's available on the EU store! I'm a bit angry, but I'll buy it anyway.

April: Surprise! It's available NOW for the iPad!

Example -"Oh My God! I didn't know it was going to be released on the iPad too! And two weeks in advance?! I'M PURCHASING IT AGAIN!".

Me -"...".

See my point?

Mr. Sunday Surprise

04/02/2010, 10:33 am

I gotta say, I'm happy for telltale "expanding" buisness, but seriously, is anyone actually BUYING the ipad? It's just an oversized iphone, but its an oversized iphone with sam and max (sniff, tears)

[TTG] Yare

04/02/2010, 10:36 am

I am sick and tired of getting the short end of the stick when it comes to exclusivity deals

Exclusivity deals aren't as common as you think. Gamers and gamer media have hilariously incorrect perceptions of the video game industry.

guitarsareboring

04/02/2010, 10:40 am

I don't understand why people don't see that it's essential for it to be available on the iPad at launch. Tonnes of people will be booting up their iPads for the first time this week and deciding what to buy. They might see Sam & Max and decide to give it a shot... however if it is released in two weeks time after everyone's already gone app-crazy people may be reluctant to spend any more money in the store.

I'm pretty sad that the people with the most money will be able to play before me when I've already paid for the game and they haven't yet - but I'll get over it. In two weeks time when I'm grinning like a fool I'll have forgotten all about this. Telltale is a great company who deserve extra exposure and of course extra money.

I gotta say, I'm happy for telltale "expanding" buisness, but seriously, is anyone actually BUYING the ipad? It's just an oversized iphone, but its an oversized iphone with sam and max (sniff, tears)

The fact that it can run Sam & Max surely suggests it's more than just an oversized iPhone. And as Hitler rightly pointed out, it doesn't even make calls.

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 10:41 am

I still don't see the big deal.... It would be different if TTG said "and by the way we are pushing the PC release date back"

Chaosprower

04/02/2010, 10:49 am

When the iPad was first announced, I was interested in it.

But...

-The Spanish version of the iPad comes out later than the U.S. version.
-The Spanish version of the iPad can't buy or view movies. (Not even in English).
-The Spanish version of the iPad can't buy or view TV shows. (Not even in English).
-The Spanish version of the iPad can't buy or read ebooks through the iBookstore. (Not even in English, and even if they are released in Spanish I can't buy them anyway).

GhettoLevis

04/02/2010, 11:00 am

I'm happy for all the guys and gals that can get an Ipad AND Sam and Max early. I need to wait until (at least) end of April for my Ipad here in europe.

I'm quite unhappy about all the hate, be it towards the Ipad, the Ipad version of Sam and Max, the "I'm not able to play it first" Hate, and all the other kinds of stupid and senseless negativity.

jadekitten5425

04/02/2010, 11:05 am

Rather Dashing

04/02/2010, 11:07 am

I hate everyone and everything.

puzzlebox

04/02/2010, 11:10 am

i've got no hate for anyone, TTG or otherwise, but we all gotta vent sometimes don't we? *hugs to all*

*hugs*

I hate everyone and everything.

*big hugs*

Dangerzone

04/02/2010, 11:19 am

Yare;281500']Exclusivity deals aren't as common as you think. Gamers and gamer media have hilariously incorrect perceptions of the video game industry.

Are. You. Serious?!

More than 50% of the games, movies, and TV sets released in the last 24 months have had some type of exclusive content deal with a retailer or format!

And thats not spin from some media outlet... Thats an actual percentage ratio based on both my working in retail (seeing the deals myself) and the DVD, PS3, PC, and blu-ray discs sitting on my shelves right on front of me... half of it has some "fond" memory of me being pissed off before or after buying it because I could not get something neat with it due to one reason or another

and while its true Telltale may gain some exposure and cash for being available at launch , they have also lost some things... Their integrity and one of their most loyal customers

Sorry Telltale, but its Deja-Gametap all over again... pass me over once, shame on you... do it twice, shame on me

If you wanted to release the iPad version earlier, should should have mentioned it before you started taking Pre-orders, or not started taking Pre-orders till now... Either way, you chose to hold back information on this release and did not fully disclose information about which formats were supported and the dates when all the versions would be released... forcing us to think that there were only 2 version choices and one set release date for both

You handled this situation with deception, omission, and extreme unprofessionalism... So I am standing up to it in my own small way

Who would have thought that my 1000'th post would be my last one :(

Rather Dashing

04/02/2010, 11:24 am

That's okay, it's your 999th. And you're going completely ballistic over something that at most is a minor annoyance. Unlike the Wallace and Gromit DVD issues, this means absolutely nothing for PC consumers other than a need to be careful of spoilers before PC launch.

Apple isn't paying Telltale anything extra to get the game 12 days early, so it's not an exclusivity deal. Gametap gave Telltale the money they needed to actually develop Sam and Max Seasons One and Two. By all means, Season Three is the least externally-affected season to date.

GhettoLevis

04/02/2010, 11:29 am

Are. You. Serious?!

Cue "LONG RANT ABOUT HOW BASICALLY NOTHING HAS CHANGED FOR ME BUT OTHER PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PLAY IT BEFORE ME ON A SYSTEM AND NOBODY TOLD ME BECAUSE I'M THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON AND NO ONE ELSE SHOULD HAVE THE GAME BEFORE ME".

You handled this situation with deception, omission, and extreme unprofessionalism... So I am standing up to it in my own small way

See - that's what I meant by "Senseless Hate".

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 11:30 am

LOL internet melt down is LOL

LowMoralFiber

04/02/2010, 11:36 am

If that had been the front page yesterday, I would have definitely thought it was an April Fools joke, but maybe the iPad isn't as useless as I previously imagined...

Rather Dashing

04/02/2010, 11:37 am

LOL internet melt down is LOL
I don't think that insulting a person without at the very least explaining why you're insulting them is a pretty poor move overall. I suppose it's fine if you really don't plan to make yourself look at at reasonable to the other party, but then it's just internet bashing. Fine if that's what you're going for, but it's not really discussion now, is it?

...it's weird being on the side of the "this isn't a problem" crowd.

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 11:41 am

LOL internet melt down is LOL because it made me laugh... and laughing is healthy...

better?

adventureaddict

04/02/2010, 11:46 am

I understand why TTG is doing this, but it still hurts a little. :(

PariahKing

04/02/2010, 11:51 am

I haven't pre-ordered this game but i am so mad i am going to find dangerzone we're gonna start up an army

we gonna invade ur land

rally the militias

we burn down all those in our way

and conquer all wal marts

getting the economic powah

to seize all ipads

and stop this injustice

also we will imprison grossman evil king of corproate greed

or i will cry about it in this corner

either one

...u sux telltale

Avistew

04/02/2010, 12:21 pm

My thoughts are "meh, I'm not getting an iPad so it doesn't change anything for me".

But good for them I guess.

jadekitten5425

04/02/2010, 12:26 pm

Are. You. Serious?!

More than 50% of the games, movies, and TV sets released in the last 24 months have had some type of exclusive content deal with a retailer or format!
.....
:(
calm down hun, yeah it sucks but everything's gonna be ok

MRN

04/02/2010, 12:42 pm

I'm shocked and appalled!

I would love it for they to bring the PC and PS3 date to the 3rd aswell. Too bad it isn't gonna happen :(

Will

04/02/2010, 12:47 pm

If you wanted to release the iPad version earlier, should should have mentioned it before you started taking Pre-orders, or not started taking Pre-orders till now...

To be fair, the opportunity didn't present itself until after we had already started pre-orders, and we couldn't just come out and tell everyone about it because we were contractually obliged not to.

In fact, 90% of the studio didn't even know about it until yesterday. It's been kept under extreme lock and key at Apple's bequest. I still haven't even seen the sucker, and I've got my hands in a bit of everything around here.

[TTG] Yare

04/02/2010, 12:51 pm

Are. You. Serious?!

Yes. "Exclusivity deals" are rare. Launch date discrepancies are usually due to the wildly different platform-specific hoops a developer has to jump through, limited porting resources, along with whenever a platform owner allows you to actually publish content on their service.

Money is very rarely changing hands for this stuff, but everyone on the Internet seems to think it does due to a handful of high-profile examples.

Bonus secret: If your game isn't going to help sell a ton of hardware units, the hardware maker is not going to give you money to be exclusive to their system.

Steve2000

04/02/2010, 12:59 pm

The bottom line is this:

Telltale is awesome.
Telltale makes awesome games.
Awesome games cost money.
Selling Telltale games on many different systems provides lots of ways to make money.
Telltale will take the piles of money they make and make more awesome games.
This makes Telltale even more awesome.

The End.

Remolay

04/02/2010, 01:12 pm

my thoughts: Putting it out now = bad idea for those who wont have an iPad as so many people will end up posting spoilers here in a noobish fashion before the 15th

Putting it out on iPad along with the other things on 15th = good idea for we all will get a chance then

and last

Putting it out now on all platforms = better idea because, face it, we want to play it now

Imapus Sylicker

04/02/2010, 01:16 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I like how everyone's pissed off at something that only lasts 13 days but are willing to accept a lifetime change, like "direct" control. :p

Cheers!

corruptbiggins

04/02/2010, 01:22 pm

I don't think there will be a mass influx of new posters (though I could be way off the mark). Even if there is I feel that there is a good mod presence here that will help 'control' any possible threads of spoilers. Besides, I would consider the average buyer of new technology like the iPad to be decently tech savvy and with less 'noobish' tendencies.

Fury

04/02/2010, 01:24 pm

This is fucking retarted. Ipad is the dumbest computer thing I've ever heard of, and Telltale, my (previously) favourite game company, release it two weeks early on the god damned thing!

FUCK!

Clearly the PC version is done! So you're just screwing us all over (because everyone here got it for PS3 or PC) so a bunch of Imac users (who are normally all rich tossers) can get their filthy rich hands on it two weeks early! Release the god damned PC version first guys!

Jake

04/02/2010, 01:27 pm

Clearly the PC version is done! So you're just screwing us all over (because everyone here got it for PS3 or PC) so a bunch of Imac users (who are normally all rich tossers) can get their filthy rich hands on it two weeks early! Release the god damned PC version first guys!

Living up to your username! Blarrrr! PC version is being finished up as you read this, to go into final test and send off to reviewers. It's on the same schedule it's always been in. Sorry that this release doesn't impact your life, but you are still mad about it. :(

Majus

04/02/2010, 01:28 pm

Damn, the internet shows some nasty sides of people...

Fury

04/02/2010, 01:29 pm

Living up to your username! Blarrrr! PC version is being finished up as you read this, to go into final test and send off to reviewers. It's on the same schedule it's always been in. Sorry that this release doesn't impact your life, but you are still mad about it. :(

I do have a reputation of flaming to uphold.

It just feels a bit irritating, that's all. One of the reasons I like Telltale is all it's community involvement, the forums are fantastic and the staff are great. And then it suddenly gets decided that it's going to be released on a silly platform 2 weeks before all the loyal forum members get to play it. I'd be surprised if more than 20 people here are getting an Ipad.

It just feels like being betrayed, that's all.

corruptbiggins

04/02/2010, 01:30 pm

There does seem to be a lot of possessiveness about this. I'm getting a strong Sméagol/Gollum vibe off of some posters.

Why can't we all just get along?

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 01:37 pm

Here is an idea ask for a refund and pay extra to have it on iPad... or act like an adult and get over it... and enjoy the game when it comes out on the date we all accepted when we preordered.

deadlinejon

04/02/2010, 01:40 pm

okay, im gonna cit in here for a sec.
STOP THE RAEG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx8gnLxD8TY)

you can continue.

Fury

04/02/2010, 01:44 pm

If they could release the game on the 2nd of April of Ipad, they could have done the same thing with PC. But they didn't.

Gah. All this raging is boring now. I've only just woken up and I feel a bit sick. I ate too many easter eggs yesterday. I might to play Persona 3. I've finally got up to the end boss. It killed me because it has 14 forms (the bastard!) and you can't heal inbetween. Gonna go try it again.

corruptbiggins

04/02/2010, 01:47 pm

If they could release the game on the 2nd of April of Ipad, they could have done the same thing with PC. But they didn't.

Actually I think that is erroneous. Specifically regarding control methods. The iPad only has one control method, whatever it is, whereas the PC version has at least 3 (mouse only, keyboard & mouse & controller). All of which have to work at the same time meaning you could change the way you control the game on the fly (well at least between the mouse only & keyboard/mouse combinations - not sure about the controllers).

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 01:49 pm

guitarsareboring

04/02/2010, 01:58 pm

To be fair, the opportunity didn't present itself until after we had already started pre-orders, and we couldn't just come out and tell everyone about it because we were contractually obliged not to.

In fact, 90% of the studio didn't even know about it until yesterday. It's been kept under extreme lock and key at Apple's bequest. I still haven't even seen the sucker, and I've got my hands in a bit of everything around here.

I think it's pretty damn cool but I'm uber-jealous of the people who can afford an iPad - and get one even, as the UK release date is still unknown I think.

Let's imagine a different scenario shall we? Let's say they announced all formats at the same time including iPad and today decided to release the PC version earlier. A lot of the people here would be whooping with excitement now wouldn't they? It's in their best interests to do this, everyone who pre-ordered is still getting the game on the date they thought they were getting it. What's the problem?

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 02:00 pm

Yeah life goes on, pizza hut still delivers, and my wife still thinks I'm the bees knees... heck I even found a reason to work in "bees knees" into a conversation.. even if it was with strange people who may or may not live in my computer...

Secret Fawful

04/02/2010, 02:01 pm

http://i43.tinypic.com/14d3tr8.jpg

Dankish comic on how I saw t3h rage.

Remolay

04/02/2010, 02:08 pm

seriously, I just think it's not fair

MRN

04/02/2010, 02:16 pm

http://www.148apps.com/news/ipad-game-preview-sam-max-episode-1-penal-zone/

Good for Apple :(

thatdude98

04/02/2010, 02:18 pm

Eh. I don't care either way considering I pre-ordered it just yesterday. *shrugs*

deadlinejon

04/02/2010, 02:28 pm

my reaction to the RAEG:
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww92/deadlinejon/unimpressed.jpg

Steve2911

04/02/2010, 02:31 pm

I understand why they're doing it. It is, of course, unfair as hell. And sad for the real fans who pre-ordered it on day one out of love for the series, only to see a bunch of people who just buy it on a new-hardware-whim get it weeks early.

But life moves on and the game will still be awesome when it comes.

guitarsareboring

04/02/2010, 02:36 pm

You know what'd happen if Telltale said 'alright, we'll release it on all the other formats tomorrow then'

"The sound is sooo compressed"
"I picked up the piece of cheese and used it and then I managed to pick it up again"
"Maaan this game is so buggy, did anyone else see Jimmy half in the wall?"
"I wish Telltale had spent more time testing instead of rushing it out"

Fury

04/02/2010, 02:37 pm

http://i43.tinypic.com/14d3tr8.jpg

Dankish comic on how I saw t3h rage.

That comic is wrong! There was more swearing, and I broke the television, not the computer!

Not my fault I was angry. I got up to the end boss in Persona 3, and I got it down to 5hp, I had full health, and then it cast death, which instant killed me. Even though it has a 10% chance of working. And even though the end boss has 14 forms, AND TAKES 3 HOURS TO KILL! THREE HOURS I HAVE TO REDO!

.....

hanged_man

04/02/2010, 02:43 pm

no trailer for the ipad version ? or screenshots or anything ? that's totally weird

guitarsareboring

04/02/2010, 02:44 pm

no trailer for the ipad version ? or screenshots or anything ? that's totally weird

I'm pretty sure I've seen screenshots.

Hassat Hunter

04/02/2010, 02:47 pm

I am just going to repeat what I said before:

Great for TTG, a little annoying for us, true.
But the most negative thing I can think of that this does to us is a possible mass EVAC of the forums for the following 12 days.

stemot

04/02/2010, 02:49 pm

I just think that as a person who has bought every single episodic series Telltale has made, which I am sure there are many of here on these boards, it is a little crappy to then turn around and give the first episode early on another platform that hadn't been announced on pre-order after most of us have pre ordered for one of the other platforms that had been announced.
It's a little maddening TBH that even though it's an awaited series and given that Telltales success is in no small part due quite a bit to their paying customers actually buying their amazing games and supporting the company, they then turn around and bite them on the arse.
True, it won't change my life, just makes me wonder why another platform which is just launching gets the game 2 weeks earlier than the companys dedicated customers.

Whatever, estimations gone down a little is all I'm saying.

Secret Fawful

04/02/2010, 02:52 pm

That comic is wrong! There was more swearing, and I broke the television, not the computer!

Not my fault I was angry. I got up to the end boss in Persona 3, and I got it down to 5hp, I had full health, and then it cast death, which instant killed me. Even though it has a 10% chance of working. And even though the end boss has 14 forms, AND TAKES 3 HOURS TO KILL! THREE HOURS I HAVE TO REDO!

.....

Ha ha ha! The psycho music did start playing in the air though right?

JedExodus

04/02/2010, 02:56 pm

Ha ha ha! The psycho music did start playing in the air though right?

I thought it was supposed to be Jaws, Pyscho's more "EEE EEE EEE EEE dun dunnnn dun dunnn" in my head. These are truly important matters

guitarsareboring

04/02/2010, 02:57 pm

True, it won't change my life, just makes me wonder why another platform which is just launching gets the game 2 weeks earlier than the companys dedicated customers.

Because it's a great opportunity for them to add more people to their loyal fanbase and the more people they've got buying the games, the bigger and better games they can make. As I already said, being available on launch day is much more beneficial to them than releasing it in two weeks.

Fury

04/02/2010, 02:58 pm

Ha ha ha! The psycho music did start playing in the air though right?

Yeah, it was kinda weird actually. Channel V (music channel over here) just started a countdown of "Best Horror Music of All Time", but the Jaws theme was playing when I first read the post. Psycho started soon after though, around about the time of the 3rd post.

OzzieMonkey

04/02/2010, 02:59 pm

Well, judging from the screenshots of the Ipad version in the blog, it looks like the PC/PS3 version will be better anyway. I mean just look at the jagged edges everywhere, and it also looks like the quality setting is set right down. It will be worth the wait for the PC/PS3 version, because this one just looks like it has been scaled down. It doesn't matter to me that its out early, I prefer quality. I just hope that the people who get this version aren't going to have the same problems as the Wii version of TMI.

Secret Fawful

04/02/2010, 02:59 pm

I thought it was supposed to be Jaws, Pyscho's more "EEE EEE EEE EEE dun dunnnn dun dunnn" in my head. These are truly important matters

Gah! Yes I always get them mixed up. I did mean Jaws.

That's the second greatest coincidence I've ever heard of.

Fury

04/02/2010, 03:01 pm

Well, judging from the screenshots of the Ipad version in the blog, it looks like the PC/PS3 version will be better anyway. I mean just look at the jagged edges everywhere, and it also looks like the quality setting is set right down. It will be worth the wait for the PC/PS3 version, because this one just looks like it has been scaled down.

There shouldn't be a wait. The game's done, they're just holding back so they get a few Ipad sales.

It's like Bilzzard. There reaches a point that no-matter how much money they're making, the games will still be the same. This whole thing is selling out, and it always stinks when Indie companies do that.

puzzlebox

04/02/2010, 03:02 pm

There is one group who are potentially materially affected - you might have preordered S&M3 on another platform, but now want to play it on the iPad instead. I haven't seen anyone complaining about that though.

Wapcaplet

04/02/2010, 03:05 pm

I wonder if anyone who has a problem with this would have made the decision differently than Telltale did.

Let's say you're Dan Connors. Your company has a new game coming out mid-April. You want to get your games on as many platforms as possible.

Suddenly, an opportunity arises to be part of the big launch of a new software platform from a well-respected vendor -- a vendor that you've admired for a long time. There are only three downsides:

1) The new game will be released 12 days earlier on the new platform than everywhere else, because the launch date has already been scheduled for both the platform and your new game. Neither can be changed.
2) The vendor demands that you keep quiet about it until right before launch... and even most of your own company does not know what's going on.
3) When the rabbit is pulled out of the hat, some of your current customers with entitlement issues and conspiratorial mindsets will bitch and moan like the world is coming to an end.

Gee, what a tough decision to make.

This is an absolute no-brainer for Telltale. Kudos for pulling it off.

wefeelgroove

04/02/2010, 03:05 pm

I think I know what everyone in this thread needs.

A kitten pile!

http://i40.tinypic.com/r2w9om.jpg

There, don't you all feel better now?

OzzieMonkey

04/02/2010, 03:06 pm

There shouldn't be a wait. The game's done, they're just holding back so they get a few Ipad sales.

It's like Bilzzard. There reaches a point that no-matter how much money they're making, the games will still be the same. This whole thing is selling out, and it always stinks when Indie companies do that.

Actually, Jake has already said that they are still working on the PC version.

Radogol

04/02/2010, 03:07 pm

Personally, I'm excited that TellTale got a launch title on a high-profile platform.

Having said that, I'm surprised none of the RAGE is directed at the fact that this version of the game seems to be the only one with point & "click" interface :)

nikasaur

04/02/2010, 03:08 pm

There shouldn't be a wait. The game's done, they're just holding back so they get a few Ipad sales.

Nay, sir, there ye be mistaken. I refer ye to yon Jake's post:

PC version is being finished up as you read this, to go into final test and send off to reviewers. It's on the same schedule it's always been in.

The iPad schedule was moved up as we were given the opportunity to be a launch title- iPad, PS3, PC and Mac versions of the games operate quite differently than one another, they are unique snowflakes and we need to give them the gentle care they require.

corruptbiggins

04/02/2010, 03:09 pm

Having said that, I'm surprised none of the RAGE is directed at the fact that this version of the game seems to be the only one with point & "click" interface :)

Actually I think the control method will be based around the click and drag though in this case touch and drag would be more appropriate.

Avistew

04/02/2010, 03:10 pm

But the most negative thing I can think of that this does to us is a possible mass EVAC of the forums for the following 12 days.

The most negative thing I can think of, now that I've seen it happen, is all the people complaining, which I find annoying (and to be honest, pretty unexpected).
It's just not the same when I'm not the one doing it.

light_rises

04/02/2010, 03:15 pm

First reaction: wat

Past that, acceptence. Then a paranoia of stumbling upon spoilers before the 15th. After that ... honestly, I just found it intriguing. Still do. Other than being worried about spoilers, the feeling is a nice kind of stunned. Telltale's finally going to be on a mobile platform. And have an episode available to purchase for a highly-anticipated device on/before its launch date! How neat is that?

Oh. And if anyone would like to repeat those statements about Apple product users being "hipsters" and/or "yuppies" to my face, this Apple product user will happily laugh in his/her face while spraying copious amounts of Cheetos-laced spittle.

... Actually, forget the spittle part. That's just disgusting. Even I'm not that unhip. Yuck.

Radogol

04/02/2010, 03:17 pm

Actually I think the control method will be based around the click and drag though in this case touch and drag would be more appropriate.

There's a screenshot in which touchable hotspots are shown. No exits are visible, so perhaps it will be like ToMI.

Chords of Steel

04/02/2010, 03:18 pm

I was excited for the new season. I was actually going on the site so I could pre-order it.
I've bought every single one of Telltale's games. I've bought their books, too. I've been an incredibly loyal customer, even though their game specials never applied to me, since I already had their episodes.

Remember, it wasn't that long ago that you were only on the PC.

Now... I'm not so sure.

There are lots of other games out there, especially now that I've discovered Steam, and companies besides Nintendo and Telltale.

And now that Telltale is blatantly pandering to a sub-rate "gaming" platform basically owned by the rich and senseless, I'm insulted.

Telltale, you couldn't have released the game to your best customers early? Really?

Anyway, I don't think I'll pre-order it now, seeing as I wouldn't have to if I had enough money to buy the "revolutionary" "Moses" "tablet".

Great job, Telltale. By letting some corporation have its way with you, (wonder how many sales you'll get on the iPad?) you've alienated your main customer base.

This SUCKS.

P.S. Enjoy your negative $34.95, jerks.

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 03:21 pm

I think everyone needs to stop what they are doing, browse the how to draw a boob thread, look at all the lovely, and be happy, then come right back......

now that you are back

I dream of an internet where we are not separated by apples, windows and penguins and an internet where we can come together in a united happy community of gamers, game makers and boob drawers... Except Nikasaur because she caused Yare to stray.

puzzlebox

04/02/2010, 03:22 pm

The most negative thing I can think of, now that I've seen it happen, is all the people complaining, which I find annoying (and to be honest, pretty unexpected).

It's equal parts alarming and amusing.

JedExodus

04/02/2010, 03:23 pm

Oh. And if anyone would like to repeat those statements about Apple product users being "hipsters" and/or "yuppies" to my face, this Apple product user will happily laugh in his/her face while spraying copious amounts of Cheetos-laced spittle.

You know it's true though. There's a load of clued in people who appreciate Apple products for reasons other than having them as a status symbol though

Just check out this gent here

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwsrbqJGMJ1qzprhbo1_500.jpg

Secret Fawful

04/02/2010, 03:24 pm

I think everyone needs to stop what they are doing browse the how to draw a boob thread look at all the lovely and be happy then come right back......

now that you are back

I dream of an internet where we are not separated by apples, windows and penguins and and internet where we can come together in a united happy community of gamers, game makers and boob drawers... Except Nikasaur because she caused Yare to stray.

Hear hear!

@Chords - How is two weeks "alienating" your main customers? If the delay was by a couple of months, then sure that would be a bit irritating, but look at the people who had to wait to play TOMI on Wii while PC users got it early. We're they "alienated"? Were they "cheated" out of a game. The only way you're cheated out of this game is if you throw it away over petty bitterness. You're only cheating yourselves.

corruptbiggins

04/02/2010, 03:26 pm

(I actually posted this in another thread but it's more appropriate here.)

Personally, I applaud Telltale for taking a chance on putting their latest product on a brand new piece of hardware, and a popular one at that. There's no sense in company not growing, not attempting to do things they've not done before. If you don't expand in a environment as competitive as the games industry, you die. Telltale isn't a big company (though they are bigger than they were 5 years ago) and so can't normally be at the forefront of a new piece of technology and so when they were offered (I'm guessing here with 'offered' - for all I know they were the ones who suggested the idea to Apple but anyway) the chance to have their latest game be involved right at the launch of the latest product from one of the biggest tech companies in the world, how could they refuse, even if it meant giving it to them earlier than their main customer base.

I like the path Telltale have taken in the last couple of years, expanding their platform base from just Windows PC to all current generation consoles and Macs. Now the iPad marks their first foray into what is really an unknown market especially regarding games. Of course they have to be careful when expanding to not forget where they came from but I see little to make me think that will happen, certainly not in the near future. I want them to be able to reach as many gamers as possible, how could anyone want to deny them that.

light_rises

04/02/2010, 03:29 pm

And now that Telltale is blatantly pandering to a sub-rate "gaming" platform basically owned by the rich and senseless, I'm insulted.

... Now, you see, these kinds of grand, sweeping statements about a platform that, statistically speaking, almost no one has even used themselves? Doesn't help matters. At all. Not even a little.

That "rich and senselees" comment diserves a much, much different response altogether, but I'm not going to dignify it with that.

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 03:34 pm

Yeah I'm pretty sure there wasn't even a single swastika in the press release.... I will have to look again I guess because I do not think I have the same information as some of you claiming that Telltale is in league with the devil.

Ash735

04/02/2010, 03:40 pm

Eh, the only reason I was pissed off earlier was because I red "Sam & Max Out Now" on Mobile Internet, but didn't read the article, so in my head all day whilst working I just kept thinking about how awesome it's going to be to play some Sam & Max later on.

And then of course I get home to find the early release was just for the iPad! :p

Avistew

04/02/2010, 03:40 pm

If they're really rich and senseless, maybe you can get them to buy you an iPad, too?
This way you'll get to play the game tomorrow.

Ash735

04/02/2010, 03:44 pm

Actually, thinking about it, I'm emotionally damaged! I want a written letter from Yare and Jake saying they're sorry for causing me this distress, I like, had Sam & Max on my mind all day! So I want a letter in the post! ;):D

Fury

04/02/2010, 03:50 pm

I know for sure I'm not bothering to pre-order with Telltale again. The only reason I preorder is to get the game early, I like getting up early and playing it the second it's out.

Then suddenly, out of the blue, a bunch of strangers will get to play it first. And not even a few days, but a complete 2 weeks. It completely defeats the purpose, and it is betraying and alienating the fans who paid for an "early copy".

I just thought Telltale was above this, that's all.

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 03:50 pm

all the April Fools day shenanigans and now all this blowing up... has provided me with a ton of entertainment... Thanks guys and gals.

Icedhope

04/02/2010, 03:51 pm

Okay seriously who cares, somehting gets something early does it it really matter? Are any of you not getting it on the 15th?

Think about this raging over people who get a game early on another system is retarded, and by retarded I mean it's stupid, you just make yourselves sound more like Jackass's when people over-react to things like this. So what? All I'm saying is that over reacting doesn't solve anything and it makes you look like a jackass for doing it.

I've said my voice of reason, and I'm done.

light_rises

04/02/2010, 03:53 pm

Just check out this gent here

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwsrbqJGMJ1qzprhbo1_500.jpg

Lincoln got KIRF'd! D8

Yeah I'm pretty sure there wasn't even a single swastika in the press release.... I will have to look again I guess because I do not think I have the same information as some of you claiming that Telltale is in league with the devil.

Actually, I was told Telltale's currently storing Hitler's cryogenically-preseved head in the janitor's closet. And that whatever babies they don't eat are used as an energy source to maintain the capsule the head is sealed in.

But now the Easter-themed Max in the new banner has reminded me about carrots, which I love. We have lots of carrots at home right now.

*munches*

Ah. I feel better already.

Fury

04/02/2010, 03:55 pm

Blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

This boss in Persona is annoying. It's on it's last form, and now it takes barely any damage...

Secret Fawful

04/02/2010, 03:55 pm

Just because the game came out early doesn't mean a million people will be playing it before April 15th either.

Fury

04/02/2010, 03:57 pm

Yeah. I seriously think the Ipad will be a HUGE flop. It's mainly why TTG's decision surprises me.

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 03:58 pm

Actually, I was told Telltale's currently storing Hitler's cryogenically-preseved head in the janitor's closet. And that whatever babies they don't eat are used as an energy source to maintain the capsule the head is sealed in.

Coincidentally that actually would make a good Sam & Max story....... definitely a good Hell Boy story...... OooooooH TTG should do a Hell Boy adventure game... I do not want to hear how it wouldn't translate well into an adventure game because its action orientated.... think the Indiana Jones adventure games by lucasarts.

Fury

04/02/2010, 04:00 pm

Coincidentally that actually would make a good Sam & Max story....... definitely a good Hell Boy story...... OooooooH TTG should do a Hell Boy adventure game... I do not want to hear how it wouldn't translate well into an adventure game because its action orientated.... think the Indiana Jones adventure games by lucasarts.

Now you are just being stupid.

Oh, forgot the obligatory rage comment.

IPAD SUCKS! TELLTALE IS STOOPID!

Shwoo

04/02/2010, 04:00 pm

Fury

04/02/2010, 04:02 pm

So some people will get to play the game early. I don't mind. The PC release date hasn't changed.

I don't think the forum will be flooded by spoilers over the next two weeks, but I'm a little concerned about that anyway.

Don't worry about spoilers. It won't be a problem. Ipad users won't come here, and the few people here that will buy one aren't idiots, they won't spoil it.

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 04:04 pm

spoilers is the only legit complaint I have seen so far.... but I think we will be ok.... I am guessing people that will be using the iPad for games will be mostly casual gamers and not big fans... casual gamers do not really go into forums to talk about this stuff so I think we will be good.... that probably came off a little like I am rambling... its because my wife just said dinner is ready.

Jake

04/02/2010, 04:06 pm

Actually, I was told Telltale's currently storing Hitler's cryogenically-preseved head in the janitor's closet.

In your FACE! We don't even HAVE a janitor's closet.

Wait, oh god, we do. I always forget about it because it's inside the mens room stall that is awkwardly positioned so that the crack in the door lines up perfectly with the toilet and is always in line of sight when you turn around to use the sink, so it's not used that often.

Maybe there's something to your story.

Fury

04/02/2010, 04:06 pm

I think that 99% of the people who are offended are just annoyed about the whole pre-order thing.

With TOMI, there were reviewers and reviewers friends who had played the game before everyone, and there were no spoilers, unless you went looking for them. It'll be the same with this.

splash1

04/02/2010, 04:07 pm

I think it was a mistake in doing this, although please note that I have no problem with iPad I really don't mind TDPH on it; but MY problem is that it's being released like 10 days before the official release date.

bubbledncr

04/02/2010, 04:07 pm

this must be the week for game companies to anger their community members...

HUGS to EVERYONE! Your anger is disturbing the puppy.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oUf1XDnMhc0/S7aGhy6e5PI/AAAAAAAAAJk/9jQr6V2yXnU/s1600/yoshiPuppy.jpg

Fury

04/02/2010, 04:08 pm

The puppy has made me calm.

Secret Fawful

04/02/2010, 04:11 pm

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oUf1XDnMhc0/S7aGhy6e5PI/AAAAAAAAAJk/9jQr6V2yXnU/s1600/yoshiPuppy.jpg

http://www.paranoiddelusionsinc.com/images/aboutimg.jpg

Shwoo

04/02/2010, 04:15 pm

HUGS to EVERYONE! Your anger is disturbing the puppy.
http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1303&stc=1&d=1270253666

JedExodus

04/02/2010, 04:17 pm

this must be the week for game companies to anger their community members...

Well there's you guys, Bungie (some unanswered questions about Halo Reach on the forums I hear are getting out of hand) and Infinity Ward (every day of every week)

Irishmile

04/02/2010, 04:17 pm

Im still getting what I paid for... and what I was promised.

Rather Dashing

04/02/2010, 04:18 pm

Then suddenly, out of the blue, a bunch of strangers will get to play it first.
Strangers get to play a game before you all the time. Reviewers and testers. You were willing to pay $35 to play the game on April 15th. That arrangement has not changed. If you had not come to this site or heard of the iPad launch, you would have not been affected at all. There is no change in your product.

And not even a few days, but a complete 2 weeks. It completely defeats the purpose, and it is betraying and alienating the fans who paid for an "early copy".
Wait, since when does 12 equal 14? Maybe you have a different definition of "week" than the Gregorian Calendar?

I just thought Telltale was above this, that's all.
Above taking easy money? I don't think anyone is above the idea of getting more money for their work.

I really think this whole thing is ridiculous. I of all people am generally the very first to say that a variety of opinions and community criticism are necessary and should be protected.

But this is stupid.

Hell, I feel great. I'm still getting the best deal. I get the most benefits, as a direct Telltale customer. The iPad users have to first spend half a grand on a device, and then they get to spend $15 more for the game if they want the whole thing. They don't get a DVD, they don't get a free episode. They get the worst deal. A 12 day earlier launch of episode 1 is probably the closest thing to a platform-exclusive bonus that they are going to get. Good for them.

Maybe there's something to your story.
Specifically, the parts where there is a janitor's closet, and stuff(possibly even stuff in jars) is stored in said closet.

Avistew

04/02/2010, 04:27 pm

The only thing I don't get is the "I preordered to have the game early". You don't get the game earlier when you preorder. It comes up on the 15th. Someone buying it the day it comes up isn't pre-ordering anymore and gets it at the same time you do.

Or did you want to be the very first person to play it or something? You'll still be along the first ones to play it on a computer, you know. The iPad version has to be different.

I really didn't think that would cause such a stirrup. I'm surprised. The way I see it, it doesn't take anything away from me.

Then again, I guess I don't really care about being the first one to play it or playing it on the very day it comes out or anything. So maybe I just don't get it.

puzzlebox

04/02/2010, 04:32 pm

The only thing I don't get is the "I preordered to have the game early". You don't get the game earlier when you preorder. It comes up on the 15th. Someone buying it the day it comes up isn't pre-ordering anymore and gets it at the same time you do.

You're right that the "me first, me first" argument most people are using isn't really a valid one.

However, anyone who preordered on PSN or Steam, but would prefer to play the game on iPad (in spite of it being the worst deal), would probably have a valid concern (unless they could get a refund for the preorder). That's the only scenario I can think of where there is some kind of material impact, and I haven't seen anyone raise it.

I think TTG will be pretty surprised at the level and intensity of community backlash on this, even though it's most likely coming from a very vocal minority. I'm certainly surprised. :/

Wapcaplet

04/02/2010, 04:37 pm

I think TTG will be pretty surprised at the level and intensity of community backlash on this, even though it's most likely coming from a very vocal minority. I'm certainly surprised. :/
I just hope it has no effect on their future decision-making. Ordinarily I'd advise any company to listen to its customers, but not in this case.

Ya hear that, Telltalers? Just stick your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalalala" while reading this thread.

light_rises

04/02/2010, 04:37 pm

I realize we have neglected to consult the only one whose opinion truly matters in all of this.

Hey! Buddy!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/LightRises/IMG_0421-1.jpg

Telltale's releasing the new Sam & Max season on the iPad -- and the first episode a whole twelve days before the rest of us can get our grubby hands on it! What do you think of that?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/LightRises/IMG_0422.jpg

The Family Pet has spoken made his sentiment known! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo48zzADJLE)

Wapcaplet

04/02/2010, 04:43 pm

However, anyone who preordered on PSN or Steam, but would prefer to play the game on iPad (in spite of it being the worst deal), would probably have a valid concern (unless they could get a refund for the preorder). That's the only scenario I can think of where there is some kind of material impact, and I haven't seen anyone raise it.
Good point. Steam does allow you to cancel a preorder if you cancel before the release date:

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4938-WTDF-9465

I couldn't find any policy about PSN other than the standard "no refunds" but they've never offered a preorder before. I would hope they would offer refunds in this case.

jadekitten5425

04/02/2010, 04:48 pm

as i said earlier i was just having a good initial vent and don't want to be seen negatively

puzzlebox

04/02/2010, 04:56 pm

as i said earlier i was just having a good initial vent and don't want to be seen negatively

'Course not, you gave *hugs to all*! I'm a sucker for hugs. :)

JFreeman

04/02/2010, 04:59 pm

I can see why TT did it (sweet apple money) but I can also see why people who paid for a pre order are mad that they don't get to play it first.

A friend gifted me a pre order of PZ so I don't really have any right to complain but I feel this situation could be resolved with either a release date cut, an early demo or some other neat bonus (even if it's something ridiculous like a character skin that gives Max a funny hat, bonus pc content is always good)

Chuck

04/02/2010, 05:20 pm

The only thing I don't get is the "I preordered to have the game early". You don't get the game earlier when you preorder. It comes up on the 15th. Someone buying it the day it comes up isn't pre-ordering anymore and gets it at the same time you do.
I think that people are upset because with the iPad's version, Telltale's store will run out of digital copies on the 15th, rendering their preorders worthless. Now all the copies will be picked-over and pushed to the back of the virtual shelves, instead of giving you the freshest bits possible.

Fury

04/02/2010, 05:25 pm

I think that people are upset because with the iPad's version, Telltale's store will run out of digital copies on the 15th, rendering their preorders worthless. Now all the copies will be picked-over and pushed to the back of the virtual shelves, instead of giving you the freshest bits possible.

They just won't have that new data smell that new online releases have.

ahintz

04/02/2010, 06:15 pm

I posted in the other thread, but it looks like there is some more constructive discussion going on here. Disclaimer up top - I have an iPad coming on Saturday. I was planning on purchasing Sam and Max for my PS3, but the idea of playing it on the iPad is very tempting (not so much getting it early, as being able to use the touch interface). I hope Telltale continues to release games for the iPad. However, it is too bad that it will cost an extra $15-$20 to purchase the season. It is definitely causing me to hesitate before I just click "Buy App" in iTunes. I hope in the future (assuming Telltale continues to develop for the iPad) that there is a way to bring the pricing more in line with the other platforms.

MrQuizmo

04/02/2010, 08:03 pm

Honestly, my entire issue with all this isn't Sam & Max related. I find this trend with big games (big for their companies, at least) releasing stuff exclusively early for a system, while doing that "hand over the mouth" thing to another market going "The contract will run out, and then you guys can have it."

Video game systems are too expensive for folks on budgets, like me, to own every single one. So I do feel a teensy bit put out when some game I'm super crazy about, like Fallout 3, is all "Whelp, we made this contract, so you can hear about this cool expansion, but by the time it comes out on your system, you'll be so wrapped up in new stuff, you won't even care." And then you realize how jaded you've become, so you open a window, light a cigarette, and look out on a black lake illuminated by the moon and reflect on existence and humanities place in the fabric of time.

Maybe that last part is just me.

Granted, the PC date (My system of choice) hasn't been pushed back, so I'm more jealous than anything else.

I'm not upset, and I commend TTG for moving into new markets. That's just sound business sense.

I suppose my true feeling here is just that, the Camelot Mystique of Telltale has broken for me. I suppose in my mind I always held Telltale to a different standard. I childishly thought of Telltale as a group of people making games, not as a business entity that provides paychecks to working people. It was more my fault than anyone else's.

God Speed Telltale. Of all the companies I have known, you were the most... human.

*Cue "Amazing Grace" on Bagpipes*

Jake

04/02/2010, 08:15 pm

There is no exclusive deal. The iPad's just coming out right now, and we have the game ready for it. If we hadn't hit the deadline Apple set for the iPad's release (tomorrow, Saturday), it would have come out on the 15th, but we managed to make it, so we're putting it out.

I will put it this way: You guys are attributing a lot of grandiose plans and back-room sellout deals to what is actually one of the most seat-of-the-pants operations we've pulled.

The iPad port turned out well, and we got it done super fast, surprising even ourselves. We're proud as hell of that, and our only motive was to get a cool product out in front of people as quickly as we could. We didn't see it as a sleight against our PC customer base, and I don't think anyone expected you guys to take it so personally (or personally at all!). Hopefully the enjoyment you get from playing the sleek and polished PC version will drown out your sadness that we busted our butt for a wacky port you wouldn't care about otherwise anyway!

Rather Dashing

04/02/2010, 08:17 pm

If we hadn't hit the deadline Apple set for the release, it would have come out on the 15th, but we managed to make it, so we're putting it out.
That's what she said.

Comrade Pants

04/02/2010, 08:18 pm

I think my opinion on the matter is known to an extent...

MrQuizmo

04/02/2010, 08:50 pm

Yeah, there was no "deal" in the crazy, Illuminati-Area51-Freemasons-Castro-Mafia-Pope sense. I didn't mean to say that I thought you guys were sitting around smoking Cigars, drawing pentagrams or something.

But it seriously never occurred to anyone there that at least some of the people who pre-ordered the game on a different system and can't afford to just go buy an iPad wouldn't be a bit miffed about the game coming out early on that system? You guys really were working hard if that slipped by.

I mean, I think canceling a pre-order over this is incredibly dumb. But then again, that's how Capitalism works. People don't give money to people that anger them, no matter how dumb the reason is that they're angry. In the big picture, the company here isn't losing jack, and we all know these folks will be back (unless they just start pirating, I suppose), but I don't think the emotional response is truly shocking.

A bit more vocal than one might expect, with much more anger and contempt, but fans being angry that the thing they want is available legally, but in a way that they can't get, and them being upset would only shock the truly dim-witted.

Fury

04/02/2010, 09:31 pm

[QUOTE=MrQuizmo;281957]Yeah, there was no "deal" in the crazy, Illuminati-Area51-Freemasons-Castro-Mafia-Pope sense. I didn't mean to say that I thought you guys were sitting around smoking Cigars, drawing pentagrams or something.

But it seriously never occurred to anyone there that at least some of the people who pre-ordered the game on a different system and can't afford to just go buy an iPad wouldn't be a bit miffed about the game coming out early on that system? You guys really were working hard if that slipped by. QUOTE]

It does feel like a kick in the face. It does make sense from a business position, but I also thought Telltale cared more about it's fanbase.

Still, nothing we can do about it now eh. Lets just wait until the 15th for Season 3 I suppose. And disconnect our internet connection to avoid the inevitable spoilers due to this "leak".

Bloody Eugene

04/03/2010, 12:02 am

Hey, you all, IT'S A GAME!!!!!
I think we've lost the sense of reality around us - it's not like a glass of water in the desert!!!
After all it's only to wait about 10 days more.
What's the matter to have it first? Would it be a better game if so? It's a "mine is longer" matter?
Come on, let's be adult.

I'm happy they converted it for Ipad! And if they managed to do it early, well it's great! If you care to have the game now, go buy an Ipad. I know it's a business thing but, hey, every copy sold help us to have better games, you know.

So, long life to Telltale!!!! You took a great opportunity!!! Good luck to Sam&Max!!! And bring Season 3 to XBOX too!

Hero1

04/03/2010, 12:16 am

I think it's fantastic news. It could do really well on the iPad and if it does it means Telltale get to keep making more great games for us. Well done to all involved!

Hyperkinetic_Martian

04/03/2010, 12:31 am

I'm more shocked than anything at this surprise, but at the same time, I'm happy for Telltale. I don't really see what the big deal is. It isn't much difference from the time when Season 1 was released on Gametap about a week (correct me if I'm wrong) earlier than the actual release on here. As people have said, this is also a great opportunity for Telltale to reach out to a wider audience, therefore making more moneys, therefore more products. More seasons. Maybe finally plushies *cough cough*

Still, I'll admit I'm a bit bummed I have to wait longer, as I'm too poor for an iPad. And anything with "i" at the beginning of its name it for that matter. Oh well ^_^

Paroxysm

04/03/2010, 12:34 am

If it's a once off staggered release for the iPad's launch it's no big deal(A bit shitty considering if it's a port of the PC version then the PC version is ready to go but whatever). If it's the start of things to come my loyalty will go with it.

Ender2

04/03/2010, 01:28 am

Where do I send the bill for the laptop screen my fist slipped through?

Nah, just kidding. I can't say I'm angry - I love Telltale, and do everything I can to support them as one of the only studios still brave enough to publish games in the current 'climate'. And gosh, I even understand Apples notorious reputation for confidentiality.

But if Telltale are going to support such niche platforms, I better see a Linux and Symbian port of Sam and Max 4 or I'm boycotting Jakes hairdresser!

[Edit: I don't really think a S60 port would work of course :)]

Hassat Hunter

04/03/2010, 02:49 am

I thought you guys were sitting around smoking Cigars, drawing pentagrams or something.
Wait... they aren't?

*NOW* I am dissapointed in TTG...

Junaid

04/03/2010, 03:15 am

It's a bit weird for the people who were planning to buy an iPad but still, in the end it's all about the game itself, not the release date...

I've waited nine years for another Monkey Island, surely I can wait two weeks for the next Sam & Max.

zmally

04/03/2010, 03:18 am

Whatever deal Apple and TTG have got together - it's worked.

I am officially buying a iPad. When it comes out. When I can afford it.

Also, Civilization Revolution aswell?!

Also, come on guys chill out you're still getting the Penal Zone when promised who cares if 50 people worldwide have access to it earlier than us? I'm sure this will be a one off!

GhettoLevis

04/03/2010, 06:00 am

An important bit for all you haters: The Ipad version may be out and available, but what use is that for the people OUTSIDE the US? Nothing.

We get the Ipad at least two weeks AFTER the PC release of Sam'n Max 3, so there.

If anything, we europeans should complain to Apple about not being able to play SnM3 on Ipad here. :(

Gibbeynator

04/03/2010, 06:21 am

Here's hoping that early releases for the iPad don't become a regular thing here...

wefeelgroove

04/03/2010, 08:13 am

Here's hoping that early releases for the iPad don't become a regular thing here...

Call it a hunch, but I think it has something to do with the iPad being released for the first time ever today. Just a hunch.

Jake

04/03/2010, 08:29 am

The iPad version is releasing early this one time because iPad is coming out today. With subsequent episodes its release will be lined up with the other platforms.

zmally

04/03/2010, 09:33 am

The iPad version is releasing early this one time because iPad is coming out today. With subsequent episodes its release will be lined up with the other platforms.

Long live King Jake!

Rather Dashing

04/03/2010, 09:34 am

Long live King Jake!
And Royal Vizier Chuck, and Court Jester Yare!

light_rises

04/03/2010, 09:38 am

And Royal Vizier Chuck, and Court Jester Yare!

... I thought Nikasaur was the court jester. :C

Leak

04/03/2010, 10:00 am

Well, as far as I'm concerned I don't mind TTG getting money from the iPad buyers, but even though I have an iPod and might even buy another one because it does only one thing and does it well (especially if you don't use it with the abomination that is iTunes), I still very much hope Apple finally keels over and dies a fiery, flaming death very soon for their other locked-down, overhyped, overpriced products.

Just my 0.02 EYPO...

Jayel

04/03/2010, 12:06 pm

The thought of some iPad owner guy who's never even heard of TellTale or Sam & Max playing the new season before I get to bothers me,
But at least they don't get antialiasing or realtime shadows!!! Which is all that really matters, when you think about it.

Irishmile

04/03/2010, 12:16 pm

allaboardfilms

04/03/2010, 12:26 pm

Wait, since when does 12 equal 14? Maybe you have a different definition of "week" than the Gregorian Calendar?

Whoah. Don't bash us Julian calendar users.

On the topic of Sam & Max, though, I can't say I'm the least bit phased by the whole thing. I'm still getting to play it on the 15th, come rain or shine, so I'm happy with that. I still have access to the pre-order forum, which the iPad users do not, I'm assuming, and it's going to be a seemingly more pleasant experience on the PC.

What I am angry about is having to wait until the backordered Season 2 DVDs come in for my Surfin' the Highway to ship. Grrr! :mad: :D

patters

04/03/2010, 12:31 pm

i'm boycotting jakes hairdresser!

hahahahaha

Jayel

04/03/2010, 12:31 pm

does it make you wanna punch the ipad owner guy in the monocle?

OOOOOOOooooh, the ipad owner guy! he has all the money, women, and unwrinkled cloths and now get to play Sam & Max while pointing and laughing at us poor peasant folks.
ipad owner guy, I shake my fist at thee!

Irishmile

04/03/2010, 01:01 pm

Yeah I hate Mr Peanut... that is who we are talking about yeah?

SlasherMan

04/03/2010, 03:30 pm

The iPad version is releasing early this one time because iPad is coming out today. With subsequent episodes its release will be lined up with the other platforms.

Well at least it's only this time!! :rolleyes:

GinnyN

04/03/2010, 03:45 pm

Let's me say something:

I don't really care of who play it first because I'm paying for the content. Since the content will be awesome (It's better be!) I don't care. But this is a letdown anyway.

I mean, we PRE-ORDERED. With that, comes the implicit promise of been the one of the first to play it. But, suddenly, someone else play it before me without doing the same process. And I don't care about graphics, that content is delivered to someone else before me, and I'm dissapointed because, in a way, you promise me we'll be the first people. And we aren't

This is like the Pre-order Bonus ToMI no-so-anymore-exclusive slipcover. I didn't pre-order ToMI, but that was, for me, also a punch in the face. I didn't say anything that time because I knew I was overreacting, but this is the second time.

I know it's not a big deal and I'm going to play the Season 3 anyway and it's going to be awesome, but, it's a letdown. Anyway.

(By the way, the tag welcome2overreationville just make my day. It's awesome.)

light_rises

04/03/2010, 04:12 pm

I think it's worth pointing out Will's post (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=281584&postcount=40) from earlier in the thread. Pre-orders were already underway before Telltale found out they could try for a launch-day release of The Penal Zone.

And I don't know about anyone else, but I consider a "kick to/punch in the face" something more along the lines of, say, Telltale suddenly offering the first 50 people who pre-ordered the PC/Mac version of Season 3 links to download Episode 1 right now, without ever informing everyone else that this was going to happen. Throwing those words around just seems a bit ... well, hyperbolic otherwise. At least to me. *shrug*

GinnyN

04/03/2010, 04:22 pm

And I don't know about anyone else, but I consider a "kick to/punch in the face" something more along the lines of, say, Telltale suddenly offering the first 50 people who pre-ordered the PC/Mac version of Season 3 links to download Episode 1 right now, without ever informing everyone else that this was going to happen. Throwing those words around just seems a bit ... well, hyperbolic otherwise. At least to me. *shrug*

It's not a punch in the face. It's more like, leave me without dessert today. Or tell me I'm going to have classes 5 minutes before the said class, when I supposed do not have classes that day.

Umpleaseant at best. But unpleaseant anyway. That's all I tried to say.

light_rises

04/03/2010, 04:44 pm

It's not a punch in the face. It's more like, leave me without dessert today. Or tell me I'm going to have classes 5 minutes before the said class, when I supposed do not have classes that day.

Umpleaseant at best. But unpleaseant anyway. That's all I tried to say.

I totally get that; the dessert analogy is a good one. Also, I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed that, somewhere out there, someone is playing The Penal Zone right now as opposed to the 15th, as I and the rest of the world had originally anticipated.

I just get tired of some people (not you) acting as if this was some breach of contract or trust. In the end, we're still getting exactly what we paid for -- to be among the first to play the PC/Mac/PS3/Steam version of The Devil's Playhouse, along with the goodies promised for whatever version you pre-ordered. What happened with the iPad version is ultimately incidental and reasonable (even commendable) as a business move, if not 100% ideal on all fronts.

But yes -- disappointment? Totally understandable. Fiery, unrelenting RAGE, as demonstrated so vividly in this thread and elsewhere? Not so much.

Rather Dashing

04/03/2010, 04:48 pm

I think "a kick in the face" would be more along the lines of "The Wallace and Gromit DVD".

light_rises

04/03/2010, 04:52 pm

I think "a kick in the face" would be more along the lines of "The Wallace and Gromit DVD".

Alas, you would be correct. :(

GinnyN

04/03/2010, 05:29 pm

But yes -- disappointment? Totally understandable. Fiery, unrelenting RAGE, as demonstrated so vividly in this thread and elsewhere? Not so much.

Still using the Desert analogy, it's depend of how you think about don't get the desert. Some people act more mature, and others like the end of the world.

I just get tired of some people (not you) acting as if this was some breach of contract or trust. In the end, we're still getting exactly what we paid for -- to be among the first to play the PC/Mac/PS3/Steam version of The Devil's Playhouse, along with the goodies promised for whatever version you pre-ordered. What happened with the iPad version is ultimately incidental and reasonable (even commendable) as a business move, if not 100% ideal on all fronts.

I have no idea if that is actually a good Bussiness side move. Since the Episodic Gaming is 50% awesome content, 50% trust, hurting that trust a bit is bad either way. But Telltale is the expert on that, not me.

I think "a kick in the face" would be more along the lines of "The Wallace and Gromit DVD".

I think the free time they had before become famous and start to grow backfires to Telltale. I mean, when they did the first DVDs, they had a lot of time and they could do it Awesome. But now, they don't have the time and never anticipate the impact of the Awesome quality of the first releases to the next ones.

After that, I hope the W&G DVD experience help them to understand when you do something awesome in the past, you are signing an imaginary contract with the client of doing something that awesome in the future. And I hope they will apply it in the S&M S3 dvd =P

Wapcaplet

04/03/2010, 05:38 pm

I have no idea if that is actually a good Bussiness side move. Since the Episodic Gaming is 50% awesome content, 50% trust, hurting that trust a bit is bad either way. But Telltale is the expert on that, not me.
There is no trust issue. Telltale has not broken any promises.

Really, I can't believe people feel like they've been insulted or betrayed. Guess what -- you haven't.

patters

04/03/2010, 06:17 pm

GinnyN

04/03/2010, 06:29 pm

There is no trust issue. Telltale has not broken any promises.

Really, I can't believe people feel like they've been insulted or betrayed. Guess what -- you haven't.

You can't manage consumer expectations. Telltale is still delivering exactly what they promised, but, at the same time, the consumer always expect something more, even if it's not in the contract.

Apparently, for some people, is important to play first that thing. So, in a way, they pre-order for get that and they fail at it, even if there's no where in the contract the game couldn't ship early for some reason for other platform or something. If they don't get that, even if it's not at the actual contract but it's implicit in some way, they feel betrayed.

I really think they are overreacting too, but, at the same time, I understand. I don't share the feeling, but I can understand.

Pre ordering doesn't mean that you get to play it first overall, just you should have the product by the release date on the specific platform. There was never an explicit promise that we would play it before anyone else.

No, there's no an explicit promise, but there's an implied one. Or, at least, I implied that. For a moment, I though the word "implicit" do not exists in english. I just checked just in case. Fiuuuu

Anyway, I could care less of when I play it if I'm getting it anyway the day it's released. Still bug me though. A little.

Avistew

04/03/2010, 06:37 pm

Actually, with Ginny's post I think I understand it better. I still think it's different from the preo-order slipcase: it was stated that only preorders would get it, and then that changed.
Here, it was never stated we'd be the first to play. However, I understand the fact that we've been expecting this season for a long, long time, preordered it oever two weeks ago and still can't play it, and people who might never have heard of Sam & Max get to play it first, and that might seem unfair.

With preorders, someone could preorder it now and get it at the same time I do. It's not first come, first served, but on the other hand everyone gets it at the same time. Here it can feel like "first come, last served", I guess.

I still really don't care much about that, personally. But I think I understand better why other people would.

MrQuizmo

04/03/2010, 06:56 pm

I'm insanely happy that this thread is doing what a stereotypical RAGE thread has the potential to do: Actually help people who don't understand why people are upset understand, even if they don't agree.

Also, on a better note, this thread has been a boon for the ridiculous tags industry. "iPad mypostcount" and "ttg secretly hates you" are my favorites.

I think I visited Overreationville once. They have great fresh produce.

OMA

04/03/2010, 08:15 pm

People bitterly complaining about not getting the game first, even to the point of cancelling their preorders in some cases, are really being childish, selfish and maybe just plain dumb.

First, the preorder didn't grant you playing first, even if the iPad release didn't exist. If you preorder, you still play on release day, the same as people who order the game on the day of the release. Since Telltale can't run out of digital copies of their games and preordering won't get you the games any earlier than the intended release date, preordering is just meant for people wanting to support the company (the little preorder bonuses alone are not really worth it, IMO).

Second, I don't get why the fact that someone might be playing a game before you do is troubling you so much, but anyway, maybe you people don't realize that you never play any game first, because reviewers and other people usually get the game several days or weeks ahead of the release date!

Third, Telltale has not pushed back the PC/Mac/PS3 releases because of the iPad release. The release date for those three platforms still hasn't changed (and even if the iPad version is out, they aren't holding back the other versions, they're just giving them their final touches), so you really have nothing to complain about. Having a launch title for a new platform is a great opportunity for Telltale to be "in the spotlight", which can only benefit all TTG games, even if you hate Apple, the iPad or whatever. Suggesting Telltale should delay the iPad release (or even not release it at all in that platform, like I've read in the blog comments) only so others don't play before you is, as I said above, childish and selfish.

So, long story short... Stop behaving like spoiled brats!

ObiWanThreepwood

04/03/2010, 09:11 pm

Internet rage over such trivial matters continues to baffle me...

Good job on expanding your catalogue Telltale! I'm more than happy to play your game on the 15th.

MasterTutu

04/03/2010, 10:54 pm

Even though I'm a PC guy, I think the iPAD release benefits us all. Releasing Sam&Max for iPAD on it's launch day guarantees the best chance for success. And if TTG makes a lot of money with its games, we can rest assured that they will continue making games and don't suddenly go Lucasarts on us.

tomo_cjt

04/04/2010, 03:50 am

Ender2

04/04/2010, 04:24 am

Pre ordering doesn't mean that you get to play it first overall, just you should have the product by the release date on the specific platform. There was never an explicit promise that we would play it before anyone else.

I think the issue was, despite the TTG engines awesome mega cross-platformness (except <BrokenRecord tact="on">my OS</BrokenRecord>) traditionally the PC is their launch platform.

I've no doubt this is largely due to the various delays imposed by the various console marketplace systems, rather than the build system or conscious choice. Thats my impression, but Now We Know (and knowing is half the battle!)

- Ender

MussKatt

04/04/2010, 08:08 am

Man... some of you guys are really something.

A couple of years ago, i was lamenting myself ( so did you ) that the good old adventure genre was dead as a doornail on the PC. Now thanks to TellTale, it as come back in full glory. With games like Sam and Max, Monkey Island , Wallace and Gromit, SBCG4AP et Bones, they have resurected the genre and are a highly profitable and successfull company. It means that, throught they're reputation, they have the possibility to arrive tomorrow morning and surprise you with TALES OF MANIAC MANSION, TALES OF FULLTHROTTLE, Etc etc etc... And yet some people get mad at the company for doing something like this. It is a brilliant marketing move taking advantage of the chance to be the best day 1 product on a new format, if anything, this will create even more Sam and Max fans and absolutely ASSURE us a season 4, wich is what we, as Sam and Max fans, should care about.

I don't mind waiting a few more days for this game. In fact, just knowing that it is coming out, that i have pre-ordered it, that it exists, makes me total happy. Of course, TellTale can'T expect to please everyone, but you still love them and so do i:)

MussKatt

04/04/2010, 08:10 am

Alas, you would be correct. :(

What do you mean? What's wrong with the DVD? ( i didn't ask for it yet )

SlasherMan

04/04/2010, 08:40 am

Well, TTG developing for the iPad get them ready for Apple's next big products!! :D

http://ipad.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/imat.jpg

Irishmile

04/04/2010, 08:46 am

what... no iWall, followed by iHouse?

LuigiHann

04/04/2010, 10:04 am

Come to think of it, TellTale's episodic software is actually a pretty good match for Apple's episodic hardware.

MrQuizmo

04/04/2010, 10:21 am

On another note, does anyone know if S&M have been front paged on iTunes yet? I know it wasn't when I checked last night, but I can't check it now cause I'm at work. If Telltale went crazy to do all this and then doesn't get any advertising from apple, that'd be hecka dumb.

Also, S&M was #48 I think on the list of top sellers. Anyone know if that number changed?

OMA

04/04/2010, 11:48 am

And yet some people get mad at the company for doing something like this. It is a brilliant marketing move taking advantage of the chance to be the best day 1 product on a new format, if anything, this will create even more Sam and Max fans and absolutely ASSURE us a season 4, wich is what we, as Sam and Max fans, should care about.

Exactly! :)

It will be great publicity for them, which is good whether you are an Apple user or not.

mithrandiryod

04/04/2010, 12:07 pm

My first thought when I heard that as a paying customer I would have to receive a product I've already paid for, after an inferior product (which I have no desire to purchase or even support at this time) gets an early release was to go and cancel my pre-order, kill all ties with Tell-tale, and just all around be pissed off. Then I stopped, took a deep breath and thought about it. Am I angry about this? Yes. Do I feel it's unfair that Tell-tale is shafting its true customer base for (again) an inferior product on a platform that in my opinion they should not align themselves with (For more examples look at how the Apple store deals with its products for the IPhone (their apps))? Damn right I do.

But, then I remembered, this is the studio that brought Freaking Monkey Island back from the dead. When I remember this, all is forgiven. The fact that I became a Sam and Max fan after finding out about Monkey Islands resurrection is beside the point. Tell-tale, while I may not agree with your decision, it is your business what platforms you distribute to. If you can make money with the IPad, Mac, Steam, Etc...more power to you.

What I do take a small exception with, are some of the Mods on this site, not taking some of these legitimate gripes seriously (Not you Jake) and offering weak excuses or insults to posters who are rightly upset. I realize this is the internet and we all hide behind a persona, but come on, don't insult our intelligence and show a little class.

In the end it doesn't matter, grand scheme wise. I'll wait like I was going to. Any company that handles Monkey Island as Tell Tale did gets a major pass from me. Just do me a favor and keep making more of them. *Smiles*

-mith

Ebanista

04/04/2010, 12:29 pm

Well, TTG developing for the iPad get them ready for Apple's next big products!! :D

http://ipad.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/imat.jpg

Aww thought apple's next product would be the iCar! :(

SlasherMan

04/04/2010, 12:39 pm

Also, S&M was #48 I think on the list of top sellers. Anyone know if that number changed?

Well as of posting time... I'm checking in my computers iTunes the iPad top 100 overall and The Penal Zone isn't even on the list! :( Thought it would sell more, idk... but in Games top 100 it's currently #54

Looking at some reviews some people say it's too slow and laggy, apparently

OMA

04/04/2010, 12:53 pm

What I do take a small exception with, are some of the Mods on this site, not taking some of these legitimate gripes seriously (Not you Jake) and offering weak excuses or insults to posters who are rightly upset.

Well, I didn't see any mod or TTG employee being insulting. I was (sorry about that) but I'm not a mod. I kinda overreacted at the overreacters ;) (if that makes sense).

Well as of posting time... I'm checking in my computers iTunes the iPad top 100 and The Penal Zone isn't even on the list! :( Thought it would sell more, idk...

Though being on launch day is great to make themselves more broadly known, I don't think they'll sell that much on that platform, if only because it's not really a gaming platform.

Looking at some reviews some people say it's too slow and laggy, apparently

That's what happens with these kinds of ports (like ToMI Wii).
Though the iPhone was supposed to be more powerful than Wii (http://www.google.com/search?q=iphone+more+powerful+than+wii) ;)
And the iPad is more powerful than the iPhone, but maybe is still not powerful enough for the awesomeness of Sam & Max :D

[TTG] Yare

04/04/2010, 01:51 pm

That's what happens with these kinds of ports (like ToMI Wii).
Though the iPhone was supposed to be more powerful than Wii (http://www.google.com/search?q=iphone+more+powerful+than+wii) ;)
And the iPad is more powerful than the iPhone, but maybe is still not powerful enough for the awesomeness of Sam & Max :D

Well, SM3 is far more graphically taxing than ToMI. And the iPad resolution is much, much higher than the Wii, which is higher than the iPhone. This sort of thing is easily overlooked by gaming blogs, who have no investigative or computer science knowledge.

Jake

04/04/2010, 02:06 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

http://www.meltwizard.com/stuff/ipadsmall.jpg

[TTG] Yare

04/04/2010, 02:10 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

You stood in line for hours to get this, didn't you.

flesk

04/04/2010, 02:13 pm

I don't think there's any chance of it happening, but it would be nice if whoever buys the game for the iPad aren't able to post anything on the forums the next couple of weeks. I don't trust iPad users not to spoil anything for the extreme majority of the forum users in the meantime.

Congrats Telltale. It's a pretty sweet deal for you. Like everyone else, I'm more than a bit jealous though, but it's not like I'd ever consider buying an iPad anyway.

Jake

04/04/2010, 02:14 pm

Yare;282723']You stood in line for hours to get this, didn't you.

Joel got it. He walked right into the store, bought it, and brought it in.

[TTG] Yare

04/04/2010, 02:24 pm

Joel got it. He walked right into the store, bought it, and brought it in.

Ah, good. It's not a good day to be standing around outside for long, anyway.

deadlinejon

04/04/2010, 02:45 pm

would this game work on a iPhone/PodTouch if TTG tried to go that way?
because if it would, TTG totally should. but have it released when the other versions of course.

Secret Fawful

04/04/2010, 02:47 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

http://www.meltwizard.com/stuff/ipadsmall.jpg

That picture remarkably makes a great desktop background.

Also, eh, that newspaper from the game actually exists?

guitarsareboring

04/04/2010, 03:04 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

http://www.meltwizard.com/stuff/ipadsmall.jpg

Aww that looks so good! :(

patters

04/04/2010, 03:38 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

http://www.meltwizard.com/stuff/ipadsmall.jpg

Bad Jake, tidy your desk, or no more TF2 for you. Aside: the magic mouse really looks like a glasses case there.

Jake

04/04/2010, 03:38 pm

That picture remarkably makes a great desktop background.

Also, eh, that newspaper from the game actually exists?

Remove the "small" from the filename to get a higher res one, if you really want a wallpaper :)

Secret Fawful

04/04/2010, 04:00 pm

Thanks!

Awesomepantsman

04/04/2010, 04:02 pm

Oooh, oooh! I want that Maths Kickers box in the corner!

SlasherMan

04/04/2010, 04:13 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

http://www.meltwizard.com/stuff/ipadsmall.jpg

Gotta say looks really nice! :D

Ender2

04/04/2010, 04:17 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

Screw the iPad (which isn't out in Aus until around the S&M PC release date, I believe)... I want that awesome CSS mug! (bug-mug?)

Avistew

04/04/2010, 04:51 pm

Also, eh, that newspaper from the game actually exists?

My thoughts exactly.

Rather Dashing

04/04/2010, 05:18 pm

I would REALLY love copies of those Videlectrix boxes, and the...apparently New York Interloper.

MrFerder

04/04/2010, 05:24 pm

Telltale's point-and-click games seem like the perfect fit for this kind of technology so I saw power to 'em.
I wonder how likely it actually will be for someone who isn't already a Sam and Max fan to buy the game for their ipad or bother posting spoilers, especially before the PC/Mac release.

Jake

04/04/2010, 05:40 pm

I would REALLY love copies of those Videlectrix boxes, and the...apparently New York Interloper.

Haha. There are four or five in-universe tabloids in the opening credits of Devils Playhouse. One of them is the Interloper.

splash1

04/04/2010, 05:54 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

http://www.meltwizard.com/stuff/ipadsmall.jpg

Wow you have a lot of cool stuff! Can I have that newspaper?

Avel

04/04/2010, 06:55 pm

Got a chance to play through the beginning of the episode on a retail iPad today at the office. It's fun!

Did you pose everything on your desk just for that shot? Those m&ms look a mite suspicious.

MrQuizmo

04/04/2010, 06:56 pm

I wish to purchase those items I saw there. Minus the iPad, cause every one knows you wanna wait until the 3G model comes out.

However, I want a copy of the New York Interloper. Or I wish to purchase the rights to it and start said paper in New York. We'd be a political/gossip/tech paper. Maybe have some artsy comics and a section where readers write in about weird/interesting things they saw.

I'd call that section "Interlopin'".

... I gotta go call a Intellectual Property Lawyer, have him start drawing up the contracts.

Jake

04/04/2010, 06:59 pm

Did you pose everything on your desk just for that shot? Those m&ms look a mite suspicious.

Aye, It was deliberate. The M&Ms (and that style of arrangement of weird Sam & Max junk) are a reference to, I think, the back cover of the On The Road comic. You can see the painting towards the back of Surfin the Highway.

Avistew

04/04/2010, 07:03 pm

Aye, It was deliberate. The M&Ms (and that style of arrangement of weird Sam & Max junk) are a reference to, I think, the back cover of the On The Road comic. You can see the painting towards the back of Surfin the Highway.

Oh, I was thinking you weren't eating very healthy with all the junk food on your desk lol. I guess if it was deliberate it's different (although then again, maybe not).

MrQuizmo

04/04/2010, 07:12 pm

Hey, now that I've heard about the alleged lagginess and seen the lower quality graphics, I'm totally cool with all this iPad business. Cause... they're paying more for less. So I declare myself the winner!

Also, "Cry me to the moon" is my new favorite tag.

Leak

04/04/2010, 07:14 pm

Yare;282729']Ah, good. It's not a good day to be standing around outside for long, anyway.
For fear of being stomped to death by stampeding early adopters furiously trying to adopt an iPad?

Avel

04/04/2010, 08:12 pm

Y'know what's the best part of "iPad Gate?"

The multitudes and latitudes of inane forum/blog chatter it has thusly spawned.

Pantagruel's Friend

04/05/2010, 12:11 am

What I do take a small exception with, are some of the Mods on this site, not taking some of these legitimate gripes seriously (Not you Jake) and offering weak excuses or insults to posters who are rightly upset.

But see, being rightly or not rightly upset is highly subjective. I've preordered the PC version, and I don't feel like I should be upset just because someone with a new gizmo gets the game 2 weeks earlier. I do understand that some people take minor offence at this, but if you read back, some posters went seriously overboard to express their discontent. I think making fun of some is definitely a better move than eg. censoring their post would have been.

Yare;282713']Well, SM3 is far more graphically taxing than ToMI.

Ummmm. The first statement about the relation of ToMI and SM3 was that they need roughly the same VGA power. Then, SM3 needed slightly stronger HW. Now it's far more taxing. Can you please clarify that?

Avistew

04/05/2010, 12:14 am

I think he means "we made sure Avistew can't play it because she stalked me and worse, she said she didn't like TF2".

Tjibbbe

04/05/2010, 12:46 am

Man, I would love to see a video of someone playing Sam & Max on the iPad. I don't want any spoilers or anything like that, I would just like to know how it looks and plays on that thing.

Yohmi

04/05/2010, 12:49 am

Man, I would love to see a video of someone playing Sam & Max on the iPad. I don't want any spoilers or anything like that, I would just like to know how it looks and plays on that thing.

Agreed :)

[TTG] Yare

04/05/2010, 07:50 am

For fear of being stomped to death by stampeding early adopters furiously trying to adopt an iPad?

Not sure what it was like in the bay, but in Sacramento there was a nasty storm for most of the weekend.

[TTG] Yare

04/05/2010, 07:52 am

Ummmm. The first statement about the relation of ToMI and SM3 was that they need roughly the same VGA power. Then, SM3 needed slightly stronger HW. Now it's far more taxing. Can you please clarify that?

ToMI has lower-poly models; fewer and lower-res texture passes; and no shadows.

Pantagruel's Friend

04/05/2010, 10:04 am

Yare;282967']ToMI has lower-poly models; fewer and lower-res texture passes; and no shadows.

Sounds good - and sounds obviously more demanding. Do you have a recommended VGA (nVidia / ATI) specified for the highest quality setting? :)

der_ketzer

04/05/2010, 10:56 am

Sounds good - and sounds obviously more demanding. Do you have a recommended VGA (nVidia / ATI) specified for the highest quality setting? :)

I would be more interested for the minimum GPU to run it on the lowest quality without stuttering.

OMA

04/08/2010, 11:14 am

Yare;282967']ToMI has lower-poly models; fewer and lower-res texture passes; and no shadows.

So that means ToMI's graphics were really constrained so a WiiWare version (with its own even more strict constraints) could be made out of it. A shame the PC version had to suffer because of that.

Kevin

04/08/2010, 01:05 pm

not true at all! Those features weren't ready while we were making Monkey. Wii had nothing to do with it!

corruptbiggins

04/08/2010, 01:44 pm

not true at all! Those features weren't ready while we were making Monkey. Wii had nothing to do with it!

That still won't stop people blaming the Wii for every problem in Tales. Sad fact of life.

Wapcaplet

04/08/2010, 01:53 pm

not true at all! Those features weren't ready while we were making Monkey. Wii had nothing to do with it!
Heh. I love the fact that shadows were on the to-do list for Bone (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2837&postcount=4[/url), but we're only seeing them now, almost 5 years later. :)

Avistew

04/08/2010, 04:31 pm

not true at all! Those features weren't ready while we were making Monkey. Wii had nothing to do with it!

Every time someone say "Wii", I read "Will" for some reason. But I usually realise it right away.
This time, it took me several reads before I understood you weren't defending Will out of the blue.

OMA

04/08/2010, 05:41 pm

not true at all! Those features weren't ready while we were making Monkey. Wii had nothing to do with it!

Thanks for clearing that up, Kevin!

Pantagruel's Friend

04/09/2010, 11:39 am

not true at all! Those features weren't ready while we were making Monkey. Wii had nothing to do with it!

I guess that doesn't apply to the lower polygon count, though.

Didero

04/10/2010, 09:10 am

Maybe I missed this, so sorry if it was asked already, but what exactly needs to be done to the iPad version of the game to make it ready for a PC release? If the game's released already, the story and all the puzzles are evidently finished.
I want to stress that I'm not at all angry that the iPad people got the game earlier than us, or that there's two weeks between the iPad and PC release. I'm just curious :)