Countdown to episode 2

[Hassat Hunter]

Still, GMT+2 would be 10PM then.

I don't see how that's "near midnight", but maybe Trica thinks 2 hours is 'near'.
(All still assuming it releases the same time as 301)

[henke37]

Can't they just set up an automatic release system and tell us the exact release time?

[OzzieMonkey]

Man, I have never been confused about the time that Telltale releases their games. I even have the second time on my watch and computer set as Pacific time, so what's the deal with people being so confuzzled about when the game's coming out? It'll be between 8am and 12 noon PST.

[Gman5852]

Probably 8PM GMT, like 301 was... (that's around middle of the day in the USA).

So lets say i can get back to my laptop at around 3:30 Pacific time would it be up then?

[tbm1986]

Just to confuse you all, the British Isles are using GMT+1 at the moment because of Daylight Saving Change for summer ;)

[Trica]

Still, GMT+2 would be 10PM then.

I don't see how that's "near midnight", but maybe Trica thinks 2 hours is 'near'.
(All still assuming it releases the same time as 301)

Well, 2 hours isn't that far from midnight now, is it? :D (and yes, when I said "somewhere near" I was thinking it would be roughly 10-11PM. )

But even if the episode came around 10PM in Finland's time, with our internet connection it would take almost an hour to download it. (+ disconnections, I had to re-download Penal Zone about 3 times because of the traffic)

So it still would be almost midnight when I get to play. :p

[Hassat Hunter]

Yeah, with 1.5 hour download time it would indeed go to "around midnight" :D
Can't they just set up an automatic release system and tell us the exact release time?
Sure... if they want to be unable to respond to last minute critical issues that need fixing/stuff going wrong.
Seeing Jake's post... they wont.

[Didero]

(+ disconnections, I had to re-download Penal Zone about 3 times because of the traffic)
You might want to consider a download manager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_manager) then. It's an application that can resume downloads if your connection fails (if the site you download from supports it, which Telltale's site does if I recall correctly).
If you've got Firefox, a good download manager addon is DownThemAll (http://www.downthemall.net), which is also useful to download multiple files at once from a site.
Another download manager I use sometimes is Free Download Manager (http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/), which, like the name says, is completely free, and pretty easy to use.

I hope that'll save you some time, bandwidth and stress :)

[teflon]

I want it now, though!
Gimme!

Honestly can't wait...

[Zeek]

We have anywhere between two to three hours left...

...and then the servers will crash as we try to download all at the same time!:D

[Hassat Hunter]

If it's like 301... the site will go into maintenance mode in... 2 minutes or so...

[tbm1986]

Like...now?

[Hassat Hunter]

Yeah.

That that hasn't happened is a sign we should now all flail about in blind panic...

[GinnyN]

The last time was about 2:00pm here. Or maybe later. Now it's 13:10 pm.

[henke37]

As for server load, you could just use torrents. If it's good enough for Blizzard...

[blahdiddy2003]

man this is just..crazy

[mathman77]

Downloading it now. Half an hour to go...

[Trica]

Woohoo! :D Just came back from school, this is awesome.

And thanks for the links, Didero! I'll try the Firefox add-on for starters, let's see how it will go :)

[Weeblerjake]

Downloading now. Should be doing that project... but, you know.

[ATMachine]

OK. Awesome. Now that I've finished the game...

Can we get the lowdown on the cut puzzle? Pretty pretty please? :D :)

[The Highway]

Downloaded, installed, now i just have to wait 10 days for my exams to be over and I can play.

[BoneFreak]

Ok, this forum is most likely dead now that ep. 2 has been released, but there's no real other place to put this.. so, I just would like to congratulate you, Telltale, on making maximus's psychic vision have ghostly hats and moustaches on everything :D

[Hassat Hunter]

Can we get the lowdown on the cut puzzle? Pretty pretty please? :D :)

Seconded.
(Here we go again :D)

[GinnyN]

thirded?

[Capn_Nacho]

Yeah, I'd love to know what the cut puzzle was, Andy.

[GinnyN]

Yeah, I'd love to know what the cut puzzle was, Andy.

You have to say "Fourthed"! Or something like that!

[aHartzell]

Okay.

In the final version of the game, Nefertiti's curse is the "Holstein Hex". In the original design, Her curse was "Embarrassing Personal Problem." This would manifest differently based on certain conditions. For instance, you might come away with halitosis or flatulence...or you might be cursed with "Male Lactation Syndrome".

You can guess the rest. I don't really blame Steve Purcell for nixing this.

We initially replaced the puzzle with a much more convoluted one involving spiked milk. Snowcone's reference to "jolly juice" in little arctic circle, and Spot the Snake's appearance on the train, are both vestigial remains of this other cut puzzle. It was nice, but it would have made the sequence a little unwieldy.

Eventually we hit upon the happy compromise of turning Max temporarily into a cow, and the rest is history.

[Hassat Hunter]

Sounds funny to me. Then again, I am twisted.

My first thought when I needed to get milk was to milk the snake. Don't ask me why I thought that though,... 0_0

[GinnyN]

Okay.

YAY!

In the final version of the game, Nefertiti's curse is the "Holstein Hex". In the original design, Her curse was "Embarrassing Personal Problem." This would manifest differently based on certain conditions. For instance, you might come away with halitosis or flatulence...or you might be cursed with "Male Lactation Syndrome".

You can guess the rest. I don't really blame Steve Purcell for nixing this.

Oh my god

We initially replaced the puzzle with a much more convoluted one involving spiked milk. Snowcone's reference to "jolly juice" in little arctic circle, and Spot the Snake's appearance on the train, are both vestigial remains of this other cut puzzle. It was nice, but it would have made the sequence a little unwieldy.

Eventually we hit upon the happy compromise of turning Max temporarily into a cow, and the rest is history.

Thanks for telling us. Really ^^!

[PressidentMax]

Just read the email, downloading now, XD!

[Harald B]

My first thought when I needed to get milk was to milk the snake. Don't ask me why I thought that though,... 0_0I actually thought that too, if by milk you mean get poison out of him. I figured you need to knock Kringle out for a while.

[Hassat Hunter]

No, I meant milk.

Isn't snake milk a delicay somewhere? Or am I just going wacko?

[Zeek]

Isn't snake milk a delicay somewhere? Or am I just going wacko?

IT is! That's why the first thing I tried was using the empty glass on Spot's cage when I was trying to milk for Kringle's Room Service Order.

Kind of was hoping for funny dialouge about anti-vemon or how neither one of them would know how to milk a snake properly, but no dice.

[Hassat Hunter]

IT is! That's why the first thing I tried was using the empty glass on Spot's cage when I was trying to milk for Kringle's Room Service Order.
Great minds think alike!

[DPB]

No, I meant milk.

Isn't snake milk a delicay somewhere? Or am I just going wacko?

The latter ;) Only mammals produce milk. You were probably thinking of snake oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil).

[Hungryfreak]

Wait... If snakes can't produce milk, then what the hell have I been drinking?

Oh, and thank you, Monsieur Hartzrell! I think it's for the better that things were changed around. The world isn't quite ready for lactating male lagomorphs, yet. Were the sequences animated at all, or was it cut before the puzzle was completed? It would be an interesting piece of content to appear on the bonus disk (at least a playthrough of the puzzle bits for those who can stomach it).

[Zeek]

I smell an Easter Egg! :D

[Zeek]

The latter ;) Only mammals produce milk. You were probably thinking of snake oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snake_oil).

With my ignorance and level of public education, I could have been thinking "Milk Snake (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_Snake)."

[Avistew]

So that's why this useless snake was in there! I thought at first that I had to put him in the sarcophagus to scare Jürgen into the next wagon, where vampire elf would be waiting for a kid.

I'm confused why anyone would think that non-mammals can produce milk. I also think the original puzzle made more sense, since although I guessed what we had to do right away, I didn't understand why Max just happened to be turned into a cow who had just had a calf. I guess it's a silly thing to wonder, I mean, why not? It's a spell, it can do whatever it wants.
Although I have to say I'm surprised it wasn't an original puzzle, what with that weird fascination with cows there seems to be in the games.

[lombre]

My original thought with the snake was that I had to do something to the snake to make Nefertiti angry enough to curse me. This was before I saw the love letter in Jurgen's room.

[Avistew]

My original thought with the snake was that I had to do something to the snake to make Nefertiti angry enough to curse me. This was before I saw the love letter in Jurgen's room.

I thought you were supposed to take the love letter to her dad so he'd think she had a crush on you and curse you, so you could send Amelia to the vampire elf.
When that didn't work, I just disregarded that solution until I thought to just ask him. Duh.

[Leak]

My first idea was having to get the asp to spit some poison into the glass of milk to make sure Mr. Kringle is out cold, but of course that didn't happen...

[corruptbiggins]

Just want to say that it was a fantastic mind bending episode and kudos to all involved in the creation of it. The quality of the episodes being delivered is getting better all the time and I cannot wait for the rest of the season.

[MalkyTop]

Still haven't really played anything yet (hoping to go on a full-on marathon after I'm done with these final projects) but I can't help but look at spoilers...and there's a vampire with the same name as me in the second episode? Oh Telltale, you make your games so flatteringly tantalizing. (Then again, I don't like vampires....hm...)

Just so that this post is made less egotistical...uh...Max turns into a cow? Oh Telltale, you make your games so intriguing.

[Didero]

there's a vampire with the same name as me in the second episode?
There's one in Season 2 too. The same, actually.

[puzzlebox]

Andy Hartzell, congratulations on episode 2 - I very much enjoyed it.

While you kick back and bask in the warm sticky glow of success, it would be lovely if you could tell us a little about how you went from writing comics to being a game designer. I guess both comics and games are about telling stories, so it isn't an enormous leap in terms of career moves, but it seems like an interesting one.

Were you a fan of adventure games before joining Telltale? Did you have any previous game-design experience? Is there anything you found particularly challenging about the change in medium? Is there much difference in the creative process (perhaps working by yourself vs working as part of a team, or integrating puzzles into the story)?

[Ray-The-Sun]

To all of you talking about "Snake Milk"- Snakes don't produce milk, you're thinking of milking a snake, which is a term used for acquiring it's poison.

[thesporkman]

http://everything2.com/title/Snake+milking

[Hungryfreak]

To all of you talking about "Snake Milk"- Snakes don't produce milk, you're thinking of milking a snake, which is a term used for acquiring it's poison.

Come on, man, have you lost sight of your inner child? What happened to your bright-eyed halcyon days of youth, when windmills were mighty dragons and reptiles could produce milk?

[Hassat Hunter]

I'm confused why anyone would think that non-mammals can produce milk.
Marsupials.

Of course, snakes aren't marsupials... Max might be one, according to one of the theories where he keeps his gun ;).

[thesporkman]

Marsupials.

Of course, snakes aren't marsupials... Max might be one, according to one of the theories where he keeps his gun ;).

Marsupials are mammals; they're just not the same type of mammal as placental mammals.

Monotremes (echidnas and platypuses) also produce milk and are also considered mammals, even though they lack nipples and lay eggs.

[Avistew]

Marsupials.

Of course, snakes aren't marsupials... Max might be one, according to one of the theories where he keeps his gun ;).

... Marsupials ARE mammals though.

[tbm1986]

Sort-of back on topic, shouldn't there be a Countdown to Episode 3 thread now? Ep2 was seriously wow and I'm still basking in the experience but I'm bored and want some info about the next episode.

Who's writing it?
Who's designing/directing it?
What style/s does it lean towards?
Which characters will we see? By the icon, I'm guessing Sal will be involved, possibly as main villain.

Any of the above and also Q&A would be nice :p please

[Hassat Hunter]

http://samandmax.net/wiki/They_Stole_Max's_Brain!

[Pantagruel's Friend]

It was an excellent episode, congratulations! (I've written a kind of review in the public forum, I wouldn't copy it here).

There's one question left unanswered, though: is the "cutting a cucumber lengthwise" joke based on something real, or is it purely Telltale's invention?

[Hungryfreak]

Who cuts a cucumber lengthwise, anyways? It's crazy, no?

[Sausy Gibbon]

Actually I don't know anyone who cuts cucumber lengthwise, it's stupid and you're more likely to cut your fingers.

[Hassat Hunter]

Not to mention you got way bigger pieces, less easy to eat...

[Avistew]

So you've never had cucumber and carrot sticks dipped in something? It's tasty.
Also, if you're going to cube it, it's more practical to do the lengthwise cutting before the widthwise one. Otherwise how do you hold all the slices together while you cut it lengthwise to cube them all?

[Hassat Hunter]

So you've never had cucumber and carrot sticks dipped in something? It's tasty.
Sure.
My parents pretty much have a cut cucumber with sauce each dinner.

They are cut in small pieces though, not vertical long pieces. Seems a lot easier to me, just take a small piece, dip it in, eat. Repeat if desired...

[Avistew]

Sure.
My parents pretty much have a cut cucumber with sauce each dinner.

They are cut in small pieces though, not vertical long pieces. Seems a lot easier to me, just take a small piece, dip it in, eat. Repeat if desired...

But with small pieces don't you end up dipping your fingers in as well?

[Hassat Hunter]

No?

[doodinthemood]

That's what makes it fun

[Avistew]

Well I like when it's sticks, it seems much easier to keep them all in a glass or something, grab one and munch on it.

[PressidentMax]

Baby Amelia stole the toy box!

[The Highway]

we need a new thread called countdown to episode 3 now, so i can talk about that

[PressidentMax]

All right, who can start it first?
I just finished The Tomb of Sammunmak a minute ago, now I have owned 301 and 302, time to wait or 303! Gruesome ending, XD!

[Power46]

we need a new thread called countdown to episode 3 now, so i can talk about that

I think it is a little early for that. 302 just came out!

Edit: Of course, I did already finish it.

[henke37]

I also kinda expected at least a witty remark about trying to milk the snake.

[Dave247]

I expected for Max to say something after you get the milk from where your supposed to.

[Hassat Hunter]

All right, who can start it first?
Only devs can make threads here.

And yes, the snake and milking max could have made great lines, but there aren't :(.

[Jake]

Episode 3 is Joe Pinney and Mike Stemmle, with Chuck Jordan presiding over all, as usual on this season. I'm not sure if we'll have a thread. It's up to those guys!

[The Highway]

can you help us convince them?

[Gman5852]

can you help us convince them?at gun point until they say yes

Please.

[The Highway]

hmm, that's funny, i dont remember writing that...

[Fury]

Episode 3 is Joe Pinney and Mike Stemmle, with Chuck Jordan presiding over all, as usual on this season. I'm not sure if we'll have a thread. It's up to those guys!

Awesome....

[GinnyN]

hmm, that's funny, i dont remember writing that...

Maybe it's a second personality.

[The Highway]

No way, I have only one personality!
that's right, me!
whatever, you two. let's go into town and burn down the bank.

[GinnyN]

I don't lose my time with second personalities. What I have is Imaginary Friends! Right Harvey?

[The Highway]

Harvey isn't real. I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but you're a moron.

What? Who typed this?

[GinnyN]

Harvey isn't real. I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but you're a moron.

What? Who typed this?

Harvey is not happy with you

[The Highway]

But I didn't do anything!

Hey, Harvey, I'm gonna twist your face and then I'm gonna turn you into a little kite. Then I'll take you to the park and have fun with you, whether you like it or not!

[GinnyN]

You are not helping!

[caeska]

http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/data/500/Derail_1.jpg

Yeah...

[Gman5852]

wait where is that puzzle too disgusting for the game. I want to know. I mean the episode is out, so why not.

[tbm1986]

wait where is that puzzle too disgusting for the game. I want to know. I mean the episode is out, so why not.

The ace TT dude answered this further up the thread.

[unknownrightnow]

You are not helping!

Harvey isn't a very helpful person anyway, he's so quiet it's like he's invisible!

[The Highway]

I'm sure I did nothing wrong!

Harvey's in a better place now, Ginny. Hehehehehehehe...

[GinnyN]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

huh?

[The Highway]

I'm sure I don't understand your random outburst of sadness...

Hey, chill, I just meant he's at the ice cream truck. Well, not really; he's under the ice cream truck. Well, not really; he's squished into the wheel of the ice cream truck! And soon, I'm gonna take over as head personality, and this total idiot that wrote "I'm sure I don't understand your random outburst of sadness..." (what a prick thing to say) will be gone forever!

[GinnyN]

You will pay, second (or third...) personality of Highway! SOMEHOW!

[The Highway]

Say hello to Ginny, Harvey!

{Harvey's mutilated corpse twitches}

[Avistew]

That double personality thing is genius! Now you can impersonate someone without having to switch accounts!

[The Highway]

Haha, very funny. I thought I explained lied about that to everybody already?

Hey, it's Steve Purcell here, and I just want to let you all know that we're going to kill off Sam & Max in episode 304 and episode 305 is just going to be a 20 minute cutscene-romantic comedy between Stinky and Sal and Skunkape

[Dave247]

Haha, very funny. I thought I explained lied about that to everybody already?

Hey, it's Steve Purcell here, and I just want to let you all know that we're going to kill off Sam & Max in episode 304 and episode 305 is just going to be a 20 minute cutscene-romantic comedy between Stinky and Sal and Skunkape

This is just getting weird now...

[The Highway]

No it's not!

[Dave247]

Nah, it's cool. All good for a laugh.

[The Highway]

No, it's not!

[MRN]

At what time do they usually update the PSN store over at the EU? Anyone know?

[MRN]

Its up, now!!!!!!!!!!

[The Highway]

And you posted both those messages on two different forums!

[Nagaoka]

This thread should now be the countdown for episode 2 of season 4.

[unknownrightnow]

Nah it should be locked so there can be a "Countdown to Episode 3"!

[The Highway]

nah well just keep talking here

[flesk]

You might want to consider a download manager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Download_manager) then. It's an application that can resume downloads if your connection fails (if the site you download from supports it, which Telltale's site does if I recall correctly).
If you've got Firefox, a good download manager addon is DownThemAll (http://www.downthemall.net), which is also useful to download multiple files at once from a site.
Another download manager I use sometimes is Free Download Manager (http://www.freedownloadmanager.org/), which, like the name says, is completely free, and pretty easy to use.

I hope that'll save you some time, bandwidth and stress :)

I'm fond of wget, as it also works well with slow connections, and I don't have to hang around in windows with nothing else to do while the file is downloading. You can run it from cygwin as well if you're using windows. It's also easier to download youtube videos with it than the more commonly used trick of copying the buffered file from the browser's cache.

[The Highway]

We must make this thread as off topic as possible before a new thread comes along!

[MRN]

Peanuts!

[The Highway]

Super contra!

[Nagaoka]

Extremely controversial remark presented as fact!

[tbm1986]

I like boobs

[MRN]

^^ Who doesn't??

[The Highway]

gay peoples? but they might too... not i have anything against gays, btw

[Tor]

I hope everyone is able to appreciate the aesthetic beauty of boobs, regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

[caeska]

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of having a thread like this if it's just gonna be full of innuendo and off-topic crap?

[MRN]

^^ delete this post imediatlly!!!!!

[tbm1986]

Just out of curiosity, what's the point of having a thread like this if it's just gonna be full of innuendo and off-topic crap?

Where else would we barely contain excitement for the time being?

[The Highway]

Inside ourselves? Don't make me laugh!

[MRN]

So... how's the weather?

[The Highway]

wrong spelling

[MRN]

Not anymore :rolleyes:

[Dave247]

If someone cared enough they could just rename the topic by just changing the 2 to a 3...

[The Highway]

If someone cared enough they could just rename the topic by just changing the 2 to a 3...

but then it would have posts in it that dont relate to 3...

[Dave247]

but then it would have posts in it that dont relate to 3...

Oh yeah, didn't think of that...
How about just adding the 3 on?
"Countdown to episode 2 & 3"?
ANd when the next one come out it can be:
"Countdown to episode 2,3,4"?
Or something like that.

[The Highway]

maybe, but it would have to be chosen by the designers i think

[Dave247]

maybe, but it would have to be chosen by the designers i think

Yeah, but it's worth suggesting.

[The Highway]

maybe... i wouldnt mind if there wasnt one really...

[Nagaoka]

Episode two was actually the finale. They wanted to put the other three fake episode titles up there so it wouldn't give that fact away. This thread was purely to countdown to the most exciting moment of our lives. Now that it's over with, we have no more reason to live. Sorry guys. I had to tell you.

[caeska]

Episode two was actually the finale. They wanted to put the other three fake episode titles up there so it wouldn't give that fact away. This thread was purely to countdown to the most exciting moment of our lives. Now that it's over with, we have no more reason to live. Sorry guys. I had to tell you.

I saw it coming. Oh well, it was a good run.

[MRN]

Yep, too bad its over....

Well, who wants cookies????

[tbm1986]

Yep, too bad its over....

Well, who wants cookies????

I do!!!

Oh wait, I'm on a diet...:(

[MRN]

Nevermind that, I've got diet cookies!

http://www.faqs.org/photo-dict/photofiles/list/7107/9490diet_cookies.jpg

[caeska]

Arrgh, you made me drive to the store to buy cookies.

[tbm1986]

I think they're concentrating on Puzzle Agent right now, which will be great when I can spare the dosh...

[The Highway]

puzzle agent!

[PimPamPet]

Nevermind that, I've got diet cookies!

http://www.faqs.org/photo-dict/photofiles/list/7107/9490diet_cookies.jpg

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~cema/courses/FIT3084/images/lect20/cookieMonster.jpg

[The Highway]

COOKIE omnomnomnom...

[tbm1986]

*eyelids disappear* COOOOOOO-KIIIIIIEEEEEES!

[Nagaoka]

Just don't drink the milk that came with them. You don't wanna know where it came from.

[PressidentMax]

I think they're concentrating on Puzzle Agent right now, which will be great when I can spare the dosh...
What!? I want 303! I want 303! I want 303! I want 303! I want 303!
They promised us Devil's playhouse before Puzzle Agent.

[The Highway]

What!? I want 303! I want 303! I want 303! I want 303! I want 303!
They promised us Devil's playhouse before Puzzle Agent.

Tell you what... I'll tell you EVERYTHING that happens in 303 the night before its release, K?

[NeatNit]

Deal!!