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DoctorCello
06/22/2010, 11:43 pm
...and by that, I don't mean 'obscure' games like Ico or Um Jammer Lammy. I'm talkin' about games that everyone disliked or hated except for you. Steel your courage, boys and girls, and admit your guilty gaming pleasures. :cool:

For me, the one game that comes to mind is Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, a game that I personally loved, even in single-player mode. The graphics were absolutely gorgeous at the time, and I loved how the character designs were unique and relatively un-cliched. The game is a blast to play with multiple people, especially if you've got a full party - and I personally can't imagine it working as well without the GBA connectivity. Lastly, I have to say: this game had one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVXTJj-ra2o) of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Opp1tFYOs) the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSxVJ_JfhNM) best (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYgEPmx7vmY) game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W94OPtkThfc) soundtracks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8OT_F_J0P4) ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b6mkTELUGU). So overall, I think it's one of the Gamecube's best games.

Of course, most people would violently disagree with me on that. So what about you guys?

Lena_P
06/22/2010, 11:46 pm
No, I loved it, too. I think most of the hate was aimed at the fact that you needed to buy a relatively useless peripheral to play it. Of course that was before Rockband and Guitar Hero or even DDR became as popular as they did ...

Little Writer
06/22/2010, 11:50 pm
Mm, I think there's a thin line between actual underrated games, and truly bad games you still enjoy.

I remember that many people disliked the two "The Getaway" games and "Driver 3", yet I've always enjoyed them, even though I wish they were a little more like "GTA". I just like how they took place in real cities instead of some cartoonish made-up version slightly resembling real cities here and there. True, their controls sucked, and particularly in "The Getaway" the level of realism actually took away the fun (not to mention missing an on-screen radar). But I still find myself popping those games in once in a while to roam the cities in freestyle.

DoctorCello
06/22/2010, 11:54 pm
Mm, I think there's a thin line between actual underrated games, and truly bad games you still enjoy.

Weeeelll... they can't be truly bad games if you were able to enjoy them though, right? ;)

jp-30
06/23/2010, 02:07 am
I loved Force Commander.

Sue me.

corruptbiggins
06/23/2010, 02:22 am
Fallout 3. :p

GuruGuru214
06/23/2010, 03:07 am
...and by that, I don't mean 'obscure' games like Ico or Um Jammer Lammy. I'm talkin' about games that everyone disliked or hated except for you. Steel your courage, boys and girls, and admit your guilty gaming pleasures. :cool:

For me, the one game that comes to mind is Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles, a game that I personally loved, even in single-player mode. The graphics were absolutely gorgeous at the time, and I loved how the character designs were unique and relatively un-cliched. The game is a blast to play with multiple people, especially if you've got a full party - and I personally can't imagine it working as well without the GBA connectivity. Lastly, I have to say: this game had one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVXTJj-ra2o) of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Opp1tFYOs) the (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSxVJ_JfhNM) best (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYgEPmx7vmY) game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W94OPtkThfc) soundtracks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8OT_F_J0P4) ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b6mkTELUGU). So overall, I think it's one of the Gamecube's best games.

Of course, most people would violently disagree with me on that. So what about you guys?

I wouldn't go so far as to call it one of the best GameCube games, but it is pretty decent. I'm playing it for the second time right now, and I hope to actually finish this time. I think the problem I had the first time is the same problem I have fairly often: motivation. And I'd agree with you on the single player thing if not for the damn Moogle. Multiplayer is much more enjoyable if only because having one person carry the chalice is so much better than that useless Moogle.

But I have to give the game some credit here, the friend I enlisted to help me with the game actually went out and purchased it himself this weekend. This isn't something that's ever happened before. And this guy has been trying to cut back on buying games.

Unfortunately, I have no other games that were considered bad that I liked, so much as games that I don't consider as bad as their reputation. Mainly Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog, really. But Sonic and the Secret Rings deserves everything it gets.

Kroms
06/23/2010, 03:24 am
Brutal Legend got a lot of unfair criticism. I get they made a lot of silly and amateurish mistakes, but it was still a good game.

I remember liking Digimon World as a kid, but no-one else agreed. There was a certain tone and amount of life to that game I haven't seen much outside of games like Animal Crossing.

Darth Marsden
06/23/2010, 06:08 am
I loved Force Commander.

Sue me.I'm not alone!

I tend to enjoy a lot of average platformer movie tie-ins, like Ice Age 2 (and 3) and Ratatouille. I think it's the whole 'not particularly challenging' aspect I like, which provides a nice counterpart to games like Mario Galaxy, which are hard as nails later on.

coolsome
06/23/2010, 06:33 am
I once read on a metal gear solid vid on youtube someone though MGS was the most underrated and I laughed lots of people throw that word around now randomly

DoctorCello
06/23/2010, 08:41 am
I once read on a metal gear solid vid on youtube someone though MGS was the most underrated and I laughed lots of people throw that word around now randomly

This is very true. I guess Metal Gear Solid is underrated in that a lot of people do hate it with a passion... but I mean, the fanbase is more than large enough to counteract that. :\

Man, I wish I had more to contribute to this thread. Most of my favorite games are well-liked by most people. I guess I'm just kind of a tool that way, lol.

coolsome
06/23/2010, 08:44 am
this game I played once was underated it was about some plumbers fighting mushroom things and turtles

Icedhope
06/23/2010, 09:03 am
Shenmue&Shenmue II have been underated, and they were great games.

Nimeni
06/23/2010, 09:20 am
Simon the Sorcerer 3. I know, I am embarrassed for myself.

But if you can ignore the horrible graphics and lousy interface, the writing and acting were both pretty entertaining!

Jon NA
06/23/2010, 09:28 am
Der Clou!2 (http://web.archive.org/web/20050105094319/http://www.clou2.com/) [website is dead, link goes to WayBack Machine] and Sheep, Dog 'n' Wolf (AKA, Sheep Raider)
I loved them although they weren't very popular...

but don't think I'm a weirdo, because this guy (http://www.randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-et.html) LOVES the game that is considered the worst game ever and have became a legend for being disliked, yes, E.T the extra terrestrial game for Atari 2600! read his reasoning, it's interesting :)

Chyron8472
06/23/2010, 12:15 pm
but don't think I'm a weirdo, because this guy (http://www.randomterrain.com/atari-2600-memories-et.html) LOVES the game that is considered the worst game ever and have became a legend for being disliked, yes, E.T the extra terrestrial game for Atari 2600! read his reasoning, it's interesting :)


I played E.T. on Atari when I was a little kid, and I liked it. I thought it was hard (hey, I was a little kid), but I still liked it. I also do remember managing to beat it a few times.

Remolay
06/23/2010, 02:17 pm
I still like the Atari ET.

I'm not sure if my mom still has that. It was when I lived with her that I played it

Hassat Hunter
06/23/2010, 04:05 pm
I'm not alone!
There is no hope for you guys.

I suppose I should add Alpha Protocol. Can't explain the abuse it's getting from some people. What the...?

ShaggE
06/23/2010, 10:09 pm
I suppose I should add Alpha Protocol. Can't explain the abuse it's getting from some people. What the...?

Agreed. It's short, horrifically buggy, and EXTREMELY linear for an RPG, but it's an absolute blast to play.

Other shameful fandoms for me: Silent Hill 4, Mortal Kombat Deception and Armageddon, Quake 4, John Woo's Stranglehold, Blood 2, The Virtual Boy console. (I'm sure there's more, but there's a sampling)

Games that weren't exactly hated, but have since become "cool to hate" by a large mass of people who can't form their own opinions: GTAIV, FEAR 2, Metal Gear Solid 2, Fallout 3, Resident Evil 5.

Jon NA
06/23/2010, 10:13 pm
I played E.T. on Atari when I was a little kid, and I liked it. I thought it was hard (hey, I was a little kid), but I still liked it. I also do remember managing to beat it a few times.
I still like the Atari ET.
I hope you guys are not offended by what I said :( ...
I haven't played the game, but I do believe that it's a great game that a designer can make in 6 weeks for Atari 2600, and the idea behind the game is really innovative.
I was actually thinking that maybe someone can re-make the game with better graphics and better gameplay, maybe I will do it in far far future ... :o

GuruGuru214
06/24/2010, 12:10 am
I wouldn't mind seeing a mod of it to make it actually playable, but as the game is...

Well... (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/bt/spoonyone/reviews/5154-et)

Hassat Hunter
06/24/2010, 12:48 am
Games that weren't exactly hated, but have since become "cool to hate" by a large mass of people who can't form their own opinions: GTAIV, FEAR 2, Metal Gear Solid 2, Fallout 3, Resident Evil 5.
I hate that one. That's what you get for wrecking the most fun thing in the 3 games (driving), and shafting PC users with the worst console port I have ever seen...

VeronicanPlay
06/24/2010, 02:16 am
I don't think Bloodrayne 2 got received as well as it should and I think it was a really good game, granted the difficulty was a little to high, and the combat was a bit clunky but good thing there is cheats for that. :p

Another one was Project Altered Beast, the graphics was not that well, the controls a little stiff, and the combat was just bash the same button over and over, but I still thought it was a good game. The idea was really good but it was badly executed. But still a fun game non the less, I completed it. :)
But in an extra game, where you advance up an elevator I kept dying at the boss at the top, and I needed him for a new form, so in the end I just gave up and have never played it again.

I also like Final Fantasy X I think that was also a game few liked, or was that X-2? In that case I haven't played it and couldn't tell if I like it or not. :)

Little Writer
06/24/2010, 02:39 am
I think FFX is many people's favorite, it was FFX-2 that most didn't like, also because it completely nullifies the emotional ending of X. I have both.

That's right, many people didn't like SH4; I enjoy it as much as the others (I play through the series regularly).

VeronicanPlay
06/24/2010, 02:45 am
Well in that case I take the FFX back then, I just couldn't remember what one. :)

Chyron8472
06/24/2010, 05:13 am
I think FFX is many people's favorite, it was FFX-2 that most didn't like, also because it completely nullifies the emotional ending of X. I have both.

I'm convinced that the main reason why FFX is popular is because it was the first Final Fantasy game with voice acting and because it was the first Final Fantasy game on PS2 and therefore the first one many people played, themselves not having a PS1 and, by extension, FF7, 8 or 9.

FF7, 8 (and 12) are way better than 10.

taumel
06/24/2010, 05:23 am
Due to the minor success of the Lynx, Chuck Sommerville's Chip's Challenge wasn't this known in the rest of the world, although it had been ported to quite a number of systems. The Lynx version features wonderful chip music, okayish gfx and a lot of good level design.

Together with the also very enjoyable Gates of Zendocon, Shanghai, Klax and California Games (but only due to the surfing) it was the reason to buy a Lynx those days.

Although Sommerville lateron developed a second version, it was never released due to negotiation issues with the copyright holder (Epyx/Atari). He's now working on Chuck's Challenge if i remember things correctly.

There is a free version around in the net as well but it lacks the atmosphere. If you're interested in it, you might better use google and search for an Lynx emulator and the rom.

Chip's Challenge video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbheItMR2vg&feature=related) (badly emulated and don't watch too long if you intend to solve the puzzles on your own.)

Always wanted to work on such a puzzle game on my own.

http://www.atariage.com/Lynx/boxes/b_ChipsChallenge_front.jpg
http://cdi.isgreat.org/chips%20challenge%20atari%20lynx.jpg

Remolay
06/24/2010, 06:10 am
Oh I loved chips challenge!

I've been looking for a way to play it for the past couple of years. Gotta love the music with it, eh?

taumel
06/24/2010, 06:42 am
Yes, i also like the music a lot. I still have the original cartridges for Lynx but as i said you can google for an emulator and the game.

taumel
06/24/2010, 07:42 am
Here, i just ripped one for you: Level XXXX (http://guckmal.lurulu.de/sfx/chips_challenge_a.ogg)

banishingseraph
06/24/2010, 11:42 pm
Shenmue&Shenmue II have been underated, and they were great games.

Oh thank god. I always feel so alone on this one. So many hate these games and I don't know why because I feel they were amazing.

KuroShiro
06/25/2010, 01:30 am
My personal guilty pleasure is Gothic (and Gothic 2, but that is more well known). It is riddled with design flaws, is brutally difficult, and has one of the worst control schemes ever conceived. It also somehow manages to be one of the best RPGs ever.

DoctorCello
06/25/2010, 02:28 am
I'm convinced that the main reason why FFX is popular is because it was the first Final Fantasy game with voice acting and because it was the first Final Fantasy game on PS2 and therefore the first one many people played, themselves not having a PS1 and, by extension, FF7, 8 or 9.

FF7, 8 (and 12) are way better than 10.

Ehhhh, I think there are a lot more reasons than that. Final Fantasy X had a good, streamlined battle system that allowed for strategy without getting too complicated, and I actually really liked the sphere grid system. Plus, as per usual for a Final Fantasy game, the graphics were outstanding, and even though the plot made no sense (also a tradition for Final Fantasy, albeit not as consistent), I think it struck some emotional chords with a lot of people. Lastly, Auron is awesome. No question about it.

That said, I completely understand why some people (http://spoonyexperiment.com/category/game-reviews/final-fantasy-x/) don't like it.

thatdude98
06/25/2010, 09:10 pm
...and by that, I don't mean 'obscure' games like Ico or Um Jammer Lammy. I'm talkin' about games that everyone disliked or hated except for you. Steel your courage, boys and girls, and admit your guilty gaming pleasures. :cool:


*cough* Escape from Monkey Island *hack* *wheeze*

DON'T KILL ME AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

taumel
06/26/2010, 02:05 am
I suspect that chances are low that someone will answer this, but, who cares. :O)

To which sport (http://guckmal.lurulu.de/sfx/california_games_b.ogg) does this tune belong to?

Looking up the filename is partly clever, partly lame.

Ascovel
06/26/2010, 03:35 am
ICO is obscure!? :confused:

Anyway, I think Insecticide is awfully underrated. It was really fun to play, it had great humor, and I was very disappointed it got the very lukewarm reviews it did. While it's perhaps not as striking and sublime as Grim Fandango, a lot of the same people worked on it and it shows. (btw it's cheap on Steam right now)

From older titles I really liked both Darkseed games (you know, those 2 with H.R Giger's art). Most people consider them cheesy horror games with weak gameplay - I found them to offer lots of interesting ideas.

Milamputechture
06/26/2010, 04:55 am
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Killer7boxnew.jpg

tabstis
06/26/2010, 05:08 am
I think FFX is many people's favorite, it was FFX-2 that most didn't like, also because it completely nullifies the emotional ending of X. I have both.

People liked X a lot and most of them actually love the gameplay elements of X-2, it was just the ruining of the plot and bad lay-out that let it down. AWESOME BATTLE SYSTEM

wefeelgroove
06/26/2010, 05:53 am
You can't say the words "Thief 3" and "good game" in the same sentence around a diehard Thief series fan without getting ripped to shreds by the ensuing berserker fanboy rage, but I thought it was just as fun as the first two games. The only things I really didn't like were apparently things the developers didn't like either but had to make do with because of the game engine (water being instant death and the lack of rope arrows, for example).

And don't tell anyone, but I play Facebook games.

Brutal Legend got a lot of unfair criticism. I get they made a lot of silly and amateurish mistakes, but it was still a good game.

If loving Brutal Legend is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

Rawr
06/26/2010, 04:43 pm
Shenmue&Shenmue II have been underated, and they were great games.
Agreed 100%. Just replaying Shenmue at the moment, and going to replay Shenmue II after. Love those games so much. Shame they went under the radar due to the Dreamcasts lack of popularity.

I really wish more games like Shenmue were made.

Toast_Burner
06/27/2010, 10:05 am
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Killer7boxnew.jpg

I have never heard any one say they dont like that game. So how is it underrated?

der_ketzer
06/27/2010, 10:09 am
Tron 2.0

http://www.retrogames.it/immagini%5Cfoto%5CPC%5Ctron2.0.jpg

Scrawffler
06/27/2010, 02:46 pm
Back in the early 90s, while all my friends were having the Sonic vs Mario argument, I preferred James Pond. One of the games is Mario rip-off, another one is a Sonic rip-off, yet somehow the James Pond series just appealed to me a whole lot more!

My favourite childhood platformer was "Fire and Ice: the Daring Adventures of Cool Coyote". I wouldn't call the game "underrated" as such, as it got pretty good reviews, but it is fairly unknown. Or at least it was to most people I knew!

I also love Arcade America. Great cartoony platform game from the mid 90s that I love as much now as I did when I first played it. Another that I believe is quite unknown to many people.

Simon the Sorcerer 3. I know, I am embarrassed for myself.

But if you can ignore the horrible graphics and lousy interface, the writing and acting were both pretty entertaining!
You're not the only one! I complain about the graphics constantly, find the interface difficult to get along with, and I also don't like the uselessly gigantic scenes. But those are the only things I don't like about it really. Other than that it's a nice game (Simon's character is still as awesome as ever in that game - that's what was important to me!!).

Leak
06/27/2010, 03:02 pm
Deadly Rooms Of Death (http://caravelgames.com/Articles/Games_2/TCB.html):

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4549/drod.jpg

I've probably sunk more hours into this game in the last six or seven years than into anything else, though I've been slacking lately... :)

You could call it a turn- and tile-based hack'n'slash game, but while it's got a lot of simple mechanics the combination of all those actually result in lots and lots of neat and brain-teasing puzzles.

np: Future Sound of London - Surface Water (Environments 3)

Strong Max
06/28/2010, 06:12 pm
Sonic Adventure 2. I know a lot of people hate the 3-D Sonic games, but I love'm.

GuruGuru214
06/28/2010, 06:20 pm
I also really like the 3D Sonic games, but only the early ones. After SA2, the series started to go downhill. Sonic Heroes wasn't as bad as everyone says it is, but it didn't live up to the quality of the previous games, plus the Emerald minigame was pretty much impossible for me. And Shadow the Hedgehog didn't deserve as much criticism as it got, though I wouldn't call it a good game either.

Hassat Hunter
06/29/2010, 01:32 pm
My personal guilty pleasure is Gothic (and Gothic 2, but that is more well known). It is riddled with design flaws, is brutally difficult, and has one of the worst control schemes ever conceived. It also somehow manages to be one of the best RPGs ever.
I thought people really like Gothic 1 and 2, just not 3? Although I mostly got that on a Gothic fanforum, so that might be the reason.

Never played 1 or 2, but 3 for me blew Oblivion out of the water. Now there's an overrated game. Both can't compare at all to Morrowind though.

Forrest_GIMP
07/01/2010, 01:52 am
I thought people really like Gothic 1 and 2, just not 3? Although I mostly got that on a Gothic fanforum, so that might be the reason.

Never played 1 or 2, but 3 for me blew Oblivion out of the water. Now there's an overrated game. Both can't compare at all to Morrowind though.

It's funny, I just came into post Gothic 3 as my choice. I've heard nothing but bad things about it, but bought it in the latest steam sales anyway and patched it up with the latest community patch and have been blessed with a killer RPG. Amazing world, decent story, great upgrade system. Weapon and armor upgrades that really have an effect. It's just a great, underrated game.

Agree with Oblivion also. Massively overrated, only made half-decent with a ton of mods.

DoctorCello
07/01/2010, 03:25 pm
I have never heard any one say they dont like that game. So how is it underrated?

It's a 'love-it-or-hate-it' type of game. Some people are turned off by the fact that it's on rails.

taumel
07/02/2010, 04:00 am
@Leak
This looks like a pretty good game. I'll give the demo a try once i'll find some time.

baf
07/02/2010, 12:28 pm
Tron 2.0 had an interesting progression. As in any FPS, you got weapons of increasing power as you went along, the very first being the frisbee from the movie. But you also go removable modules that you could install in your weapons to upgrade them in various ways. The thing is, the frisbee was the weakest weapon, but also the one with the greatest number of upgrade slots. So toward the end of the game, when you had a lot of upgrade modules, you hit a tipping point where suddenly it was worthwhile to start using it as your primary weapon again.

Also, DROD is just awesome.

stemot
07/03/2010, 02:14 am
http://images.play.com/covers/6072347x.jpg

This is new out but for many is already slipping under the Radar. People need to buy and play this now, it's amazing.

OzzieMonkey
07/03/2010, 02:45 am
Well, this only counts for the area I live in. Everyone dislikes (or loaths with a passion) point and click games except me, I've found. Why, you may ask? Their opinion is either "prefer COD" or "You should grow up and stop playing childish games that you can't talk about with anyone because no one's heard of it". Damn, that frustrates me. Maybe I should just make a seperate thread for this.

Udvarnoky
07/03/2010, 09:29 am
Anyway, I think Insecticide is awfully underrated. It was really fun to play, it had great humor, and I was very disappointed it got the very lukewarm reviews it did. While it's perhaps not as striking and sublime as Grim Fandango, a lot of the same people worked on it and it shows. (btw it's cheap on Steam right now).

I also think that anyone who thought the prologue of "They Stole Max's Brain!" was awesome would probably find a lot to like about Insecticide's conceit and execution. They created a really great world with the city of Troi, and I think I'm just as disappointed that their apparent attempts to pitch the premise as an animated series were as successful as their attempt to complete the PC version of the game. ¬

taumel
07/03/2010, 04:05 pm
TRON 2 left me with different feelings, it was a nice game to some degree but i also can remember situations were i just had to force myself finishing the game which leads me to a small iPhone game where i couldn't stop playing although i already finished all the levels, just to try out new tactics or enjoy replaying it.

It's geoDefense, which meanwhile is rather old but still the best tower defense variant i have come around so far. It features a minimalistic 2d vector style, comes with good and challenging level design and is very good on the gameplay side, extremely rewarding for just $2.

http://a1.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/030/Purple/4a/ba/22/mzl.ssybikow.480x480-75.jpg

BoneFreak
07/03/2010, 07:51 pm
I think Sonic 3D Blast isn't as bad as everyone says. When I was younger I was begging for that game for Christmas, and in anticipation I was looking all over for cheat codes and stuff. And when I played it, it was pretty enjoyable! Just top down sonic basically, and it has a good difficulty. Sonic R was great too, although sometimes the game creeped me out, but I don't know why.

Secret Fawful
07/03/2010, 08:59 pm
This enough of a list for ya?

http://www.psygnosis.org/games/adventuresofalundra/covers/Alundra.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/3/586443_46781_front.jpg
(A.K.A. That SCUMM point and click adventure game no one remembers.)

http://pc-gamess.ru/_nw/13/42995836.jpg

http://grantkirkhope.com/ghoulies_cover.jpg

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/7/198727_49461_front.jpg

http://www.calshop.biz/gol_2005-2006/immagini/Psx/FICHE%20M/COVERS/Mdk%20E.jpg

http://www.nemuladores.com/imagenes/NGC/Pokemon%20Colosseum.jpg

http://i.testfreaks.com/images/products/600x400/188/disney-s-pk-out-of-the-shadows.3525820.jpg

http://bluelinepro.com/storecomics2/images/ZELDA%20TWILIGHT%20PRINCESS%20WII.jpg

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kqacbvMIfQ1qztqhqo1_400.jpg

http://www.alx2day.com/photo/call.jpg

http://www.pwned.com/gamecovers/xbox/28334b9400de34fdf1b72f22d930dcf1-Blinx__The_Time_Sweeper.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/98/237072007_9e974b16cf.jpg

http://www.pwned.com/gamecovers/xbox/7f5c8d11ebcd3cb35db31e66e33d0e75-Oddworld__Munch_s_Oddysee.jpg

http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq238/luisoman2000/Megaman_Legends.jpg

http://emuroms-galereya.vdelo.ru/partners/emuroms-galereya/images/stories/spx/megaman%20legends%202.jpg

Giant Tope
07/03/2010, 09:02 pm
Did we really need the x-bawks hueg pictures?

Captain Mickey
07/03/2010, 10:02 pm
Holy crap, Silicon Valley, I remember that game... confused the crud out of me and made me scared of nano-bots in any game...oh the memories....

Underrated game...hmm... it'd probably be The Bouncer. Too short, main character is a Sora/Squall hybrid (this game came out before KH1) and annoying camera, but I kinda liked the characters, especially Koh (Kou?). I don't know, it doesn't get a lot of heat, but it's not exactly a diamond in the rough within the Squaresoft library of games.

Hassat Hunter
07/04/2010, 07:33 am
MDK is underrated?

I think it did pretty good when it was released, and everyone liked it.
Everyone stole the sniperrifle from it to use in their games at least :p.

Leak
07/04/2010, 10:45 am
@Leak
This looks like a pretty good game. I'll give the demo a try once i'll find some time.
Actually, the demo itself isn't that great at showing off the game, but it allows you to play all user-made levels (with one set of environmental graphics instead of six) that can be downloaded from the site, so I'd recommend doing that after finishing the demo...

BoneFreak
07/04/2010, 10:57 am
http://static.flickr.com/98/237072007_9e974b16cf.jpg



They're making an HD remake of all these games soon, maybe it'll get more attention?

And also, I'm not sure if people still absolutely hate this, but:

http://cdawgownd.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/left-4-dead-2.jpg

Come on, it's not THAT bad.

Hayley the Hedgie
07/04/2010, 02:59 pm
Shadow the Hedgehog. There. I admit it.

Aaaaaand..... I dunno if this game got bad reviews, but I really really enjoyed Mario Is Missing.... XD

Also... I dunno, but Homestar Runner fans might know of a game called "Where's An Egg?" Totally addicted to that. XD

GuruGuru214
07/05/2010, 01:37 am
I don't know if I'd call Shadow the Hedgehog underrated so much as I'd say that its suck is overrated.

taumel
07/05/2010, 03:42 am
Actually, the demo itself isn't that great at showing off the game, but it allows you to play all user-made levels (with one set of environmental graphics instead of six) that can be downloaded from the site, so I'd recommend doing that after finishing the demo...
Okay, i'll most probably buy it. Btw which one would you recommend?

After playing the DROD demo for a short time i have the feeling that Death Spank could be influenced by DROD as well. I like the humour in there.

Leak
07/05/2010, 06:04 am
Okay, i'll most probably buy it. Btw which one would you recommend?

After playing the DROD demo for a short time i have the feeling that Death Spank could be influenced by DROD as well. I like the humour in there.
Weeell, DROD:RPG is a totally different barrel of fish, so not that one. The original version of DROD (called Architect's Edition, as it added the level editor) can be had for free at SourceForge (https://sourceforge.net/projects/drod/), but it's looking incredibly dated now, and it's hold is also sold as "King Dugan's Dungeon 2.0" with voice acting and improved graphics, or you can download the original (non-improved) hold file here (http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=6547) and import it into any of the demos.

The next game was "Journey to Rooted Hold", which was the first to sport improved graphics, in-game cinematics and voice acting, and it's probably the best hold of the regular ones. The (for now) last one was "The City Beneath", which has the newest engine, but probably isn't the best thing to start out on and it's levels aren't as good as the first ones IMHO.

BUT - if you buy any of the games and register them on CaravelNet (the online scoring and in-game hold and demo downloading service for 9.99 USD a year) you can download the hold files for KDD and JtRH in-game to play them in The City Beneath, giving you the best of all worlds.

Confused yet? :)

taumel
07/05/2010, 09:12 am
So let me recapture or mix things up:

1) DROD 1 is good due to good level design but outdated engine.
2) DROD 2 is even better but still comes with the same engine.
3) DROD 3 is more a RPG.
4) DROD 4 as it used to be but somehow less convincing level design but flashy engine.
5) DROD 5 is yet to come.

Okay, i only wanna buy one, for now, no subscription. Which one offers the best&enjoyable level design and humour?

I care less about the gfx, they are all more or less horrible, and don't mind if it's the RPG or not.

Leak
07/05/2010, 09:53 am
So let me recapture or mix things up:

1) DROD 1 is good due to good level design but outdated engine.
2) DROD 2 is even better but still comes with the same engine.
3) DROD 3 is more a RPG.
4) DROD 4 as it used to be but somehow less convincing level design but flashy engine.
5) DROD 5 is yet to come.

Okay, i only wanna buy one, for now, no subscription. Which one offers the best&enjoyable level design and humour?

I care less about the gfx, they are all more or less horrible, and don't mind if it's the RPG or not.
Actually it's more like Architect's Edition is DROD 1.5 (1.0 was the edition sold by Webfoot games, which is a shareware version of AE sans level editor), Journey to Rooted Hold is DROD 2.0, King Dugan's Dungeon 2.0 is DROD 1.99 (same engine as JtRH, but same levels as 1.5), The City Beneath is DROD 3.0, and DROD:RPG is something completely different set in the DROD world, re-using scaled-up versions of the TCB graphics and actually kind of a remake of Tower of the Sorcerer.

If I had to choose one game to start out on, I'd go with Journey to Rooted Hold; there's probably one joke that's referencing KDD's level 10 in the very first level you'll miss out on that way... but you can always import the free original King Dugan's Dungeon hold (aka "level set") that I linked to above into the game and play through it.

(Disclaimer: while I might have the highest amount of rank points on the DROD forums I'm still quite bad at reviewing things and giving shopping advice... :D)

np: Burger/Ink - Elvism (Las Vegas 2010)

taumel
07/05/2010, 10:42 am
I just had a quick look at The Journey to Dingsbums...

Do i always have to take care of this little fellow?

Leak
07/05/2010, 11:02 am
Do i always have to take care of this little fellow?
Nah, Halph is just another (helpful) gimmick in some of the rooms, part of the overall storyline and absent in other rooms.

np: Burger/Ink - The Jealous Guy From Memphis (Las Vegas 2010)

Hyperkinetic_Martian
07/05/2010, 11:33 am
And also, I'm not sure if people still absolutely hate this, but:

http://cdawgownd.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/left-4-dead-2.jpg

Come on, it's not THAT bad.

I don't get why people hate it so much. Yes, there are some things that still need to be fixed, but overall, it's one of the best games I've played.

http://www.rarevids.com/pictures/supernintendo/mauimallardincoldshadow.jpg

Used to play this a lot as a kid. Not sure if it was generally disliked but still very underrated in my opinion.

Remolay
07/05/2010, 11:35 am
People hate Left4Dead2?

Chyron8472
07/05/2010, 11:44 am
This enough of a list for ya?

blah blah... game boxart images... blah...

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6666/zelda20twilight20prince.jpg

...more game boxart....



wait, WHAT?


How is Twilight Princess underrated?

It's an awesome game for sure, but I was under the impression that most anybody with even the smallest affinity for action-adventure games and an ounce of sense also thought highly of it.

Sure, it has midi music and no voice acting, but who the hell cares?

taumel
07/05/2010, 12:23 pm
@Leak
Okay, thanks, i just don't want to babysit all the time.

benzelz
07/05/2010, 09:05 pm
I really like Final Fantasy 13. It has got the most EPIC storyline ever!

Leak
07/05/2010, 11:44 pm
@Leak
Okay, thanks, i just don't want to babysit all the time.
Well, there's usually no real need to babysit Halph - the monsters can't harm him unless a guard or slayer pokes him with his sword/hook or an explosion gets him...

taumel
07/06/2010, 08:03 am
Well, there's usually no real need to babysit Halph - the monsters can't harm him unless a guard or slayer pokes him with his sword/hook or an explosion gets him...
Oh well, you can kill him.

Really sad that i currently don't have a lot of time for playing as the demo of DROD 2 (the babysitting one) is just great. Nice levels and a decent humour.

NateBailey
07/06/2010, 10:48 pm
Zeus: Master of Olympus and Poseidon. I played this game for the first time almost a decade ago and I play through a couple of campaigns at least once a year. It's never gets old and I wish there were more games like it. Rome total war is fun so is black and white but nothing has the same feel as Zeus.

Secret Fawful
07/06/2010, 10:51 pm
wait, WHAT?


How is Twilight Princess underrated?

It's an awesome game for sure, but I was under the impression that most anybody with even the smallest affinity for action-adventure games and an ounce of sense also thought highly of it.

Sure, it has midi music and no voice acting, but who the hell cares?

I've never seen that many people do much more than bash the crap out of it. Especially the Zelda fans. They did the same with Wind Waker too but now Wind Waker is like the holy grail. I wonder if Twilight Princess will be better viewed after Skyward Swords fails to fandoms expectations.

GuruGuru214
07/06/2010, 11:22 pm
Of course they will. And once Zelda 17 comes out, they'll put Skyward Sword on a pedestal and bash the new game.

Chyron8472
07/09/2010, 08:35 am
Well, I personally always thought Twilight Princess is a serious contender against Ocarina of Time for best Zelda game ever made. Perhaps best video game ever made (with the exception of games from the Monkey Island franchise.)

It always seemed to me that people who complain about the midi music or no voice acting are either critics who just want to complain or newbs who haven't been around the game industry long enough to remember playing any games that are older than Halo.


And maybe when people review it for Wii, they always feel the need to say "it looks like a GameCube game." Well, IT IS a GameCube game that was ported to Wii. It was released for Wii first only because Nintendo wanted it to be a Wii launch title.

Toast_Burner
07/09/2010, 09:44 am
http://www.strategyplanet.com/evilgenius/images/general/evilgenius_eu.jpg
It's very fun, funny and a great way to pass time.
What other game lets you play as a villian that you expect to find in a James bond film?

Alcoremortis
07/09/2010, 11:21 am
That game actually looks quite fun. I think I'll keep an eye out for it. Any idea if it runs on XP?

Avistew
07/09/2010, 11:34 am
That game actually looks quite fun. I think I'll keep an eye out for it. Any idea if it runs on XP?

They have it on good old games.

roberttitus
07/09/2010, 12:22 pm
Shenmue&Shenmue II have been underated, and they were great games.

Quoted For Truth.

I can't even begin to count the number of magazines & websites that have talked unfair & idiotic crap about these games over the years.

I would also like to bring up Namco's Tales Series (at least here in America).... Another great series that the media has turn gamers off from (IE 200 character reviews & scores of 6-7).

Avistew
07/09/2010, 01:35 pm
They have it on good old games.


It's actually 30% off this weekend. (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/evil_genius)

Toast_Burner
07/09/2010, 03:52 pm
That game actually looks quite fun. I think I'll keep an eye out for it. Any idea if it runs on XP?

I have it on Steam and it works fine.
Its also on GOG.com where they test and fix all their games to make sure they work on XP and vista (soon windows 7 as well)

Debbie82
10/22/2010, 02:06 pm
I hate to bring this back, but the underrated game I like is Emo's Matchmaker, which was created by the same Tobler family who did Riddle of the Sphinx and The Omega Stone. You not only have to match hearts, but you also have to match Hemos with Shemos to score bonus points. What is unusual, though, is that the game kind of plays like a Bible game? It's true, you know? Every time you match a Hemo with a Shemo, Bible verses appear when you check on the "Words of Wisdom" in the Options menu. And when you exit the 30-minute demo version or check on the "30-Min. Limit" in the Options menu of the full version, it gives you "more to life than Emo's Matchmaker", which kind of reads like a church pamphlet on Jesus and healings and stuff. :p

Scnew
10/22/2010, 03:12 pm
I loved Force Commander.

Sue me.

Would you believe that I still have the Darth Vader recruitment poster that came with Force Commander on my wall next to my computer?

While we are on the subject of, uh, commanders, I loved the two MechCommander games, even more than their much more popular MechWarrior brothers. I even played in a short-lived MechCommander league where I lead the armed forces of the Free Rasalhague Republic and got CRUSHED by the Clans, just like in the series' fiction. Some would say my group sucked. I would say that we were just staying true to the canon.

I also have a soft spot in my heart for Discworld, even though I think a lot of the puzzles in that game completely lack in any of reasonable logic the average person would comprehend. ( I'm talking to you, butterfly in the past that somehow creates a rainstorm in the present for some reason puzzle! )

figmentPez
10/23/2010, 09:28 am
Zeno Clash

I think a lot of people got lost in the strangeness of this one. The world and the storytelling are so odd at times, combined with an odd gameplay type (first-person brawler), the audience who would appreciate it just didn't become very aware of it.

The art style is amazing, kind of a mix of Jim Henson's darker works, with Mercer Mayer and a little bit of Planescape: Torment. The game is gorgeous and the character design is distinctive. The voice acting is excellent, and really fits the world.

The story is bizarre, but well told IMO. Parts of the end are clearly telegraphed from early on, but that's only a minor mystery compared to some of the bigger questions about what's happening. There are also some truly great character moments along the way, including a boss fight that had me laughing so hard I had to stop playing and recover.

Admittedly the gameplay is flawed. The difficulty curve is uneven, but there haven't been many games in this genre and it works well enough for me to enjoy (and I the only fighting games I like are Smash Bros.)

mgrant
10/23/2010, 11:18 am
Wild Arms 3 is fantastic up to the last bit of the game. Any time I bring it up though, people sort of thrash me for liking it better than Wild Arms 2. I've yet to figure out why, specifically and no one's ever given me a good reason.

Well, I personally always thought Twilight Princess is a serious contender against Ocarina of Time for best Zelda game ever made. Perhaps best video game ever made (with the exception of games from the Monkey Island franchise.)

It always seemed to me that people who complain about the midi music or no voice acting are either critics who just want to complain or newbs who haven't been around the game industry long enough to remember playing any games that are older than Halo.


And maybe when people review it for Wii, they always feel the need to say "it looks like a GameCube game." Well, IT IS a GameCube game that was ported to Wii. It was released for Wii first only because Nintendo wanted it to be a Wii launch title.

^this

Wusel
10/24/2010, 04:01 am
I think nobody mentioned "Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines" yet.
It is definitely underrated and people keep saying that it is buggy.
But it is not (anymore)! Get the latest patch and you get one of the best RPG games ever.

http://www.coolest-vampire-art-gallery.com/image-files/vampire-games-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines.jpg

VeronicanPlay
10/24/2010, 10:54 pm
I think nobody mentioned "Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines" yet.
It is definitely underrated and people keep saying that it is buggy.
But it is not (anymore)! Get the latest patch and you get one of the best RPG games ever.

I like that game, never really got further after I got through the haunted hotel, the game is just really scary and dark. But still a good game. :)


I just remembered the games Dragon Rage and Drakan 2, The Ancients Gates.
Both great games, but not really as liked as I would think they would be.
They where both really good games, and I have completed Drakan 2 a few times.

I never really completed Dragon Rage, but I really liked the idea behind it. I think it was one of the last games 3DO made before they went bankrupt.

Hassat Hunter
10/25/2010, 03:28 am
Bloodlines is underrated?

Maybe it's because I usually frequent RPG forums that I didn't knew that... :p

JohnJohn
10/30/2010, 08:37 am
The Ship.
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/2400/0000000408.600x338.jpg?t=1285258496
http://store.steampowered.com/app/2400/

Origami
10/30/2010, 03:15 pm
From my understanding too Twilight Princess was never overrated.

Yes, a lot of people think it's slightly inferior to WW.
But the general concensus is that it's a great addition to the line of Zelda games.

To be honest, when I saw screens of the game I was put off a little because of the grim colours and dark screenshots. But I borrowed the game from a friend, played a little, gave him his copy back and purchased my own. It became obvious that these were only the twilight parts of the game.

It's a great game. Great dungeon designs, great characters, beautiful big world where you'll clock in a lot of hours. Great value for your money.

But I am more amped up for Skyward Sword. Now THAT is great use of a colour palette. =)

coolsome
10/30/2010, 03:19 pm
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/4927691250_0426330242_o.jpg

Edward VanHelgen
10/30/2010, 08:11 pm
I don't think Lost Horizon (http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/971542-lost-horizon/index.html) is underrated. :D

ShaggE
10/30/2010, 10:50 pm
The Ship.
http://cdn.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/2400/0000000408.600x338.jpg?t=1285258496
http://store.steampowered.com/app/2400/

Have you tried "Bloody Good Time" yet? Pretty decent spiritual successor.

Shame that, like almost every MP game that tries something new, it'll be barren within the next few months. If even that.

SunnyGuy
10/30/2010, 11:11 pm
Bokta-oh, underrated in the "everyone except me dislikes it" way, nevermind then.

Megaman Battle Network 4
Yeah, really short and having to go through the story a minimum of 3 times to even be able to get to the postgame content properly is annoying, but damn if the battles weren't pretty fun.

Castlevania Judgment
Most people just got stuck on the "eww, x character looks nothing like he used to" (yeah so what, Kojima's versions are pretty different too and everyone praises her) to even give the poor game a chance. Sure, it's not really a great game, but it's quite fun.

Oh, and since Sonic and the Secret Rings and Shadow have been mentioned. Shadow doesn't deserve as much hate, but it's not a good game, and Secret Rings was a really awesome game once you upgraded Sonic's speed and control (why THAT is stuff you need to upgrade still makes no sense to me).

Vainamoinen
10/30/2010, 11:29 pm
(posting one of the better Lost Horizon art pieces, refraining from using the actual cover art for good reason)

You really think that's underrated? Have I been too loud recently? :D

http://www.aeropause.com/wordpress/archives/images/2008/05/bge_art_02.jpg

Beyond Good & Evil (2003)
I replay this again and again, and have joined gog.com just to get a version that keeps running on 64bit. The press loved it, but it did not seem to sell well. In these days, Ubisoft was still a company that PC gamers could rely on. BG&E was an incredibly emotional action-adventure with a heroine for the ages. The subtle emotions on the character's faces are impressive to look at still today, and Christophe Heral's multifaceted music will run in my CD player for eternity.


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61N1HSC1WDL._SL500_.jpg

Anachronox (2001)
Struggling with its generic graphics and lackluster role-playing elements, this game absolutely scores with its quirky characters, brilliant storyline, somewhat melancholic music, superb voice acting and laugh-out-loud humor. Sales, however, obviously got in the way of a second game, which is a real shame (as Anachronox ends on a cliffhanger).

VeronicanPlay
11/01/2010, 06:04 am
http://cjmarkham.com/art/boxs/advent_rising_box.jpg
Advent Rising
I my self really love that game, it's an absolute blast. I think the graphics for it's time is astonishing and the story is really gripping. Granted there where some times where the story telling is a little lacking, events is explained badly. But overall the story is really great and leaving me on the edge of my seat.
The music score is all recorded by a live Orchestra, Adult and Child Choir.

The game have been hammered down for being to close to Star Wars or Halo, and I think the game was released at the same time, so it was lost in all the hype of those 2 other games. Which I really think is a shame, because it's a diamond in the rough that could have been expanded.

And it was supposed to be a Trilogy but because of the bad sales, and bad promotion this is something I won't see happen any time soon.
Which is also a real shame, because it ends in a huge cliffhanger.
The Mustard brothers who made the game is still trying to this day to get the rights back from Majesco, but they are not giving in and Majesco have not touched the game for almost 6 years.

Vainamoinen
11/01/2010, 09:48 am
http://cjmarkham.com/art/boxs/advent_rising_box.jpg
Advent Rising


I actually own the soundtrack, but have never played the game. Thanks for the reminder, I think I'll listen to it... right now. ;)

The game itself is up at GOG.com for 5.99$. Might be worth a shot.

coolsome
11/01/2010, 01:12 pm
I don't think Lost Horizon (http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/971542-lost-horizon/index.html) is underrated. :D

Thats made my day!:D

VeronicanPlay
11/01/2010, 01:25 pm
I actually own the soundtrack, but have never played the game. Thanks for the reminder, I think I'll listen to it... right now. ;)

The game itself is up at GOG.com for 5.99$. Might be worth a shot.

Trust me, those money wont go to waist. :)
Bought the game there myself, and I have never regret it since.

It's how I learned of the game, and see what I have missed out on. And when I looked up on it on the internet, I couldn't believe my eyes all the bad reviews it had received.

Hayden
11/02/2010, 05:49 am
Beyond Good & Evil (2003)
I replay this again and again, and have joined gog.com just to get a version that keeps running on 64bit. The press loved it, but it did not seem to sell well. In these days, Ubisoft was still a company that PC gamers could rely on. BG&E was an incredibly emotional action-adventure with a heroine for the ages. The subtle emotions on the character's faces are impressive to look at still today, and Christophe Heral's multifaceted music will run in my CD player for eternity.


Agreed/seconded! I agree with you whole-heartedly. This game deserves to be included in this thread so much! It's such an excellent game, and playing through it was one of the greatest experiences that I've had in my gaming life. It really is a shame that it sold so poorly. Hopefully sales will be given a revitalization and boost when the game's released in HD on the Playstation Network and the Xbox Live Arcade. Also, let's hope that the sequel will be met with higher sales - it would encourage a third game, and I'd love to see this franchise turn into a trilogy!

VeronicanPlay
11/02/2010, 06:07 am
Well they are trying to give it renewed life.

As Quoted from Wikipedia: It has been announced a full HD, re-mastered, version of the game will be released on PlayStation Network and Xbox Live Arcade, in 2011. It will feature improved character models, textures, and soundtrack. Achievements, trophies and online leaderboards will be also added.

So they want to have it away from underrated. :)

Hayden
11/02/2010, 06:10 am
Aye, the developers obviously understand that they created gold when they made this game, so they're trying to do all that they can to give it its much deserved success. And I think that it will be given this success through the release of the HD version, given that it's marketed properly to the public.

ShaggE
11/02/2010, 06:26 am
And I think that it will be given this success through the release of the HD version, given that it's marketed properly to the public.

Any marketing is better than packing it in with cheese.
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/sections/15496/15496.jpg

Yeah. Let that sink in. This is actually a thing that happened.

Hayden
11/02/2010, 06:30 am
Oh my. This isn't shopped?

Edit: Actually, no, now that I think about it, why would anyone actually take the time to Photoshop something like that? That's ridiculous... and sad. It's like packaging Grim Fandango with juiceboxes.

ShaggE
11/02/2010, 06:36 am
Nope. Here's a better shot, with the slipcover.

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/beyond-good-and-evil-cheese-head-promotion.jpg

I honestly don't know whether I should laugh, cry, do a tiny tiny dance, or wet myself.

Hayden
11/02/2010, 06:41 am
And I've also found the small Cinema Blend (http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Beyond-Good-Evil-Is-Free-With-Cheese-15496.html) from where you got the image from in the first place. Yeah, this is just sad. What else can I say?

I honestly don't know whether I should laugh, cry, do a tiny tiny dance, or wet myself.
Who says you can't do more than one?

ShaggE
11/02/2010, 06:51 am
Who says you can't do more than one?

The Honorable Judge Judith Sheindlin. She just waltzed right into my apartment and said "One or the other, bucko!".

Then again, I may have partaken of some mysterious substances on that day.

Hayden
11/02/2010, 07:08 am
Substances such as... cheese?

(Oh lord, someone please bring us back on topic.)

ShaggE
11/02/2010, 07:23 am
Topic?

OH! Yeah, underrated games. Ermmm... Alter Ego. Here's a free browser remake: http://www.playalterego.com/

Talk about a game that was ahead of it's time.

DoctorCello
11/02/2010, 09:14 pm
For the record, I don't consider Beyond Good & Evil an underrated game - just undersold. The majority of the gamers who played it absolutely loved it.

Hayden
11/03/2010, 12:04 am
For the record, I don't consider Beyond Good & Evil an underrated game - just undersold. The majority of the gamers who played it absolutely loved it.

Actually, yeah, you're correct. It had brilliant reviews, is constantly in top 100 lists, and I haven't heard a single person say that they haven't liked it. It's just that... practically no-one bought the damn thing. Like Grim Fandango, I guess. But I can't help but feel that those games belong here, so I guess we can consider this thread the 'Under-appreciated Games' thread?

Hassat Hunter
11/03/2010, 06:02 am
Maybe we need a new thread for that;

"Gems that sold bad"
BG&E, PS:T and Vtm:B fit right in...

Origami
11/03/2010, 07:18 am
Here comes the mother of underappreciated games.

THE LAST EXPRESS!

WinterSnowblind
11/03/2010, 11:42 am
Have you tried "Bloody Good Time" yet? Pretty decent spiritual successor.

Shame that, like almost every MP game that tries something new, it'll be barren within the next few months. If even that.

Can't say I've played it myself but the GiantBomb quick look for it was rather embarrassing and those who said they bought it, quickly regretted it, even for the cheap price point and many of them were fans of the Ship. "Trying something new" doesn't necessarily mean good.

Anyway, I'd have to highlight the entire Legacy of Kain series.
http://ak.buy.com/PI/0/500/50010455.jpg
The series does have quite a big cult following, but it definitely deserved more attention than it got. Really amazing story and probably the best voice acting in a videogame ever.

I'd also say anything made by Rare recently (with the exception of Perfect Dark Zero, which was still at least OK).. Grabbed by the Ghoulies, Nuts & Bolts, Kameo and Viva Pinata are all easily comparable to anything they made back in the N64 days, but are ignored by most gamers.

jeeno0142
11/03/2010, 11:48 am
Has Okami been mentioned? My understanding was that the game never sold that well, but I thought it was awesome. Looking forward to the sequal. :p

Remolay
11/03/2010, 12:04 pm
I've only heard good things about Okami.

Origami
11/03/2010, 01:21 pm
Okami wasn't underrated. It was however underappreciated. Indeed it was victim to mediocre sales. The game deserved to do much better. I dunno how it sold on the Wii however.

Captain Viku
11/04/2010, 05:17 pm
Does the Disgaea series count? I believe they are quite underrated yet awesome


...dood

mgrant
11/05/2010, 04:00 am
I think Disgaea suffers from the same issues as Okami. I've never heard anything all that negative about it, but it tends to undersell.

VeronicanPlay
11/05/2010, 04:42 pm
We should make a thread for that, a thread where we all recommend games.

Games that are undersold, so the sales can go up a bit. :p

SunnyGuy
11/05/2010, 04:49 pm
I think Disgaea suffers from the same issues as Okami. I've never heard anything all that negative about it, but it tends to undersell.

Well, it does well enough to have 4 main games, like 3 portable ports of some of those games, and like 3 spin offs. I don't think that it and Okami are even in the same league when you compare them like that.

coolsome
11/05/2010, 04:54 pm
Escape from Monkey Island! I love that game and dont get most of the heat it gets.

mgrant
11/06/2010, 08:10 am
Well, it does well enough to have 4 main games, like 3 portable ports of some of those games, and like 3 spin offs. I don't think that it and Okami are even in the same league when you compare them like that.


True, but Clover was re-absorbed into it's parent company of Capcom shortly after Okami's release and a good chunk of Clover employees were let go. Viewtiful Joe, another Clover product sold about as well as Okami had, and it got a sequel, so one can assume had Clover not been re-absorbed, we may have seen a sequel for Okami as well.

Disagea, on the other hand, has been put out by Nippon Ichi Software since it's conception, and though they have swapped localization companies, it's sold well enough in Japan for them to make more.

They still aren't exactly in the same league when considered in this light, but based on what I do know of both games prevalence in the states, they're games that people who have played them love, but there aren't that many who've played them.

Remolay
11/06/2010, 08:12 am
But Okami has a sequal. In fact, It comes out in march (http://ds.ign.com/objects/029/029596.html)

mgrant
11/06/2010, 08:19 am
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I...think I need to hug you for telling me this.

PecanBlue
11/06/2010, 09:23 am
Okami is something I need to replay because I enjoyed it very much, though next time I shouldn't use so many items because they practically made every boss fight a cakewalk and I couldn't even enjoy the final one. The only terrible thing about this game is that they make you fight the same boss three times.

Also, looking at the games I own, the only things I have that could possibly be considered underrated are Elebits and Alien Hominid. I can't think of any other games I enjoyed that hardly anyone else did. Maybe Are You Afraid of the Dark: Tale of Orpheo's Curse. *shrug* I want to say Sanitarium too but it seems to be well-known in these forums.

Vainamoinen
11/06/2010, 10:32 am
Also, let's hope that the sequel will be met with higher sales - it would encourage a third game, and I'd love to see this franchise turn into a trilogy!

I must admit that with its present DRM measures for their last remaining PC customers, I consider Ubisoft to be in a process of extreme customer rejection (as referenced in my BG&E art (http://needleblade.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2pbsej)), and I literally don't want them to do a second part in their present condition. I would not be able or willing to play this game. :(

mgrant
11/06/2010, 11:29 am
Sanitarium .

YESSSSSSS, fantastic game.

Botap
11/06/2010, 07:15 pm
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61N1HSC1WDL._SL500_.jpg

Anachronox (2001)
Struggling with its generic graphics and lackluster role-playing elements, this game absolutely scores with its quirky characters, brilliant storyline, somewhat melancholic music, superb voice acting and laugh-out-loud humor. Sales, however, obviously got in the way of a second game, which is a real shame (as Anachronox ends on a cliffhanger).

Oh wow, yes. I just reinstalled this a couple weeks ago, and did a bit of work to get it to run. Anachronox is one of my absolute favorite games of all time, but I've never actually spoken with anyone who's played it, let alone really liked it.

My next vote for underrated game would probably be Sanitarium, for the PC. Largely terrible voice acting, and a couple of frustrating puzzles, but a great, dark game.

taumel
11/07/2010, 01:44 pm
I think the DungeonSiege serie was kind of underrated. It should have had more roleplaying aspects, more interesting quests/level design and should have gotten rid of a few other quirks but beside of this, they still were great games which featured many wonderful new ideas, extremely pleasing backgroundloading engine and quite some epic music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ysisxLSfsg&feature=related). I hope they don't screw up part 3. Oh and i further hope that not every hack&slay has to end in some boring lava level.