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mlrockrules
07/10/2010, 05:10 am
I recently realized that in order to become the captain of the Screaming Narwhal, one would have to knock the previous captain off the deck, it seems to remind of the Dread Pirate Roberts from The Princess Bride. The Dread Pirate Roberts was not just one pirate but a succession of pirate captains who would retire, and give up their name and the ship Revenge to someone who they felt was more powerful than they were. I may be overanalyzing it, but is this similarity intentional, or just a coincidence?

Udvarnoky
07/10/2010, 06:09 am
It wouldn't be Monkey Island's first Princess Bride reference, but I just took it as a reference to the playground game King of the Hill.

Emo Hoe
07/10/2010, 08:12 am
Or a reference to the fact that in virtually all Pirate related texts etc that ever existed it was always the case displace the captain = your ship.

Prime example would be Davey Jones and the Flying Dutchman one of the earliest pirate stories; which included in you killed Davey Jones you became Captain of the Flying Dutchman.

Farlander
07/10/2010, 08:20 am
Prime example would be Davey Jones and the Flying Dutchman one of the earliest pirate stories; which included in you killed Davey Jones you became Captain of the Flying Dutchman.

For the record, Davy Jones and the Flying Dutchman (and Kraken, for that matter) were never related between eachother until year 2006, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest release that is. They're all seperate legends which do not have any connection whatsoever which were brought together to make a compelling movie storie based on legends and stories.

Emo Hoe
07/10/2010, 08:34 am
I'm fairly sure Davey Jone was the captain of the Flying Dutchman in some old pirate story or the other. I know POC changed stuff about a bit, but it deffo rigns a bell of something pre-POC where davey jones captained the flying dutchman.

Farlander
07/10/2010, 09:42 am
Different Dutch people were told to be captain, in the stories. There are versions that the Flying Dutchman is the captain's nickname, not the ship's name. This is if we talk about stories.

If we talk about adaptations of these stories for media purposes (by media I mean books, opera, theatre, movies and stuff, i.e. art) then maybe Davy Jones was captain of the Flying Dutchman before PotC, somewhere. I do not know of any such representation, though.