View Full Version : Nooooo! De Signe! :(
Papa Pishu
08/18/2010, 08:18 am
SPOILERS ALERT!
Was anyone else disappointed to see de Singe gone? He was one of the most ..original.. characters in Monkey Island in over a decade, and would've made an excellent addition to the series as a regular like the Threepwoods, LeChuck, Miss Voodoo, Stan and Murray.
The fact that he wasn't (or didn't think that he was) French only added to the potential for more hilarity :D
It was a serious letdown to see that annoying Morgan kept alive (when ironically her character would've been redeemed a lot much more if she stayed dead) and not de Singe who could've given old LeChuck a run for his doubloons if any of his plans succeeded, nevermind a much-needed contrast of "science" against all that voodoo that keeps coming up in the series.
I would rather be in dread of running into one of de Singe's labs again in a later game instead of having to see LeFlay's squeaking face one more time.
..besides, he reminded me of Dr. Fred Edison - where everything all began in the first place ;) if you know what I mean.
StarEye
08/18/2010, 08:44 am
I hated him. He was annoying (and not in a good way).
Papa Pishu
08/18/2010, 09:00 am
I hated him. He was annoying (and not in a good way).Hey, he wasn't any more annoying than Murray! :p
Mermaid
08/18/2010, 09:35 am
I hated him. He was annoying (and not in a good way).
You meant: "I hated him" "In my opinion, he was annoying (and not in a good way)."
A lot of people think different about this, me included!
coolsome
08/18/2010, 09:40 am
DeSinge was one of the things that made this series epic in my opinion
StarEye
08/18/2010, 09:41 am
You meant: "I hated him" "In my opinion, he was annoying (and not in a good way)."
A lot of people think different about this, me included!
Everything I say in my posts is my own opinion, unless otherwise stated.
(this post should not need to exist)
Polychrome
08/18/2010, 09:43 am
Hey, he wasn't any more annoying than Murray! :p
Heh. Well, I actually thought Murray was pretty funny. :P
Honestly, I was more than happy to see De Singe gone. He was funny, I'll give him that, but he was definitely one of those villians you "love to hate".
I'm sure they'll come up with some other amusing jerk to replace him with someday.
Bubblechan
08/18/2010, 01:01 pm
De Singe was a funny character, but I don't think there was much more for him to do in the game than he did, because he wasn't a true villain. I liked his voice though, I think Jared Emerson-Johnson is really talented being a voice actor as well as a musician.
As for Morgan, I was annoyed by her at first, but as the game went by I started liking her as she was in fact a sweet person. Personally I enjoyed when Elaine got jealous when she thought that Guybrush cheeted on her with Morgan, because I always thought Elaine took Guybrush for granted. Personally I hope she will return, maybe to help Guybrush a little.
GuruGuru214
08/18/2010, 01:09 pm
De Singe served his purpose. He worked well for what they needed him for, and he didn't overstay his welcome. Had he been made a series regular (assuming LucasArts ever allows more Monkey Island to be produced), he would've gotten old fast.
As for Morgan, I felt she was a far more compelling character than De Singe. Morgan had conflict, Morgan actually brought some emotional weight to the game. De Singe was just an ass. He was an ass because the story needed an ass, but he was an ass just the same.
And really, "all that voodoo that keeps coming up"? Voodoo is a major element of the series. Monkey Island without voodoo is like Star Wars without the Force.
Yeah, shaking up the status quo can be a good thing, but not just for its own sake. They changed things up a little bit, but not too much, and I'm very happy with where the story was at the end.
Everything I say in my posts is my own opinion, unless otherwise stated.
(this post should not need to exist)
But, you see, this is a fact!
GuruGuru214
08/18/2010, 01:50 pm
Unless it's just his opinion that all his posts are opinions, in which case someone else might be of the opinion that some of his "opinions" are facts. For example, right now.
SHODANFreeman
08/18/2010, 01:58 pm
He could come back as a ghost, and then as a zombie, etc.
StarEye
08/18/2010, 01:59 pm
In my opinion, you're all crazy. How's that for an opinion?
GuruGuru214
08/18/2010, 02:09 pm
But that's not an opinion, it's a fact. A well-established fact, in fact.
doodo!
08/18/2010, 02:20 pm
Murray is easily one of my favorite characters in the franchise. Designe is a good villain but yes a tad annoying, which is why his death made him perfect because it was the most violent death in any MI game.
Macfly77
08/18/2010, 02:21 pm
But that's not an opinion, it's a fact. A well-established fact, in fact.
Well, that's your opinion, anyway.
OzzieMonkey
08/18/2010, 03:48 pm
Desinge is awesome! I love his frenchness!
doodo!
08/18/2010, 03:56 pm
Desinge is awesome! I love his frenchness!
Yes, he was perfectly designed from a narrative point of view when he gets grinded up into french fairy dust. Best MI character ever, well written.
SHODANFreeman
08/18/2010, 04:30 pm
Well, that's your opinion, anyway.
If everyone has the same opinion, does that make it fact?
Papa Pishu
08/18/2010, 04:39 pm
And really, "all that voodoo that keeps coming up"? Voodoo is a major element of the series. Monkey Island without voodoo is like Star Wars without the Force.Yes but Star Wars still has major characters that have nothing to do with the Force. Monkey Island doesn't have enough regulars who don't dabble in Voodoo.
de Signe actually represented an opposing element that could've balanced the Voodoo theme out rather nicely, otherwise it risks losing its coolness when just about everyone uses it to do everything (like the court summons.)
Macfly77
08/18/2010, 05:14 pm
If everyone has the same opinion, does that make it fact?
That's a matter of opinion...
coolguy721
08/18/2010, 05:51 pm
hes probably still alive. no one in monkey island stays dead
Debbie82
08/18/2010, 06:12 pm
De Singe is just like the Harry Potter Muggle of Monkey Island. :D
StarEye
08/19/2010, 12:53 am
hes probably still alive. no one in monkey island stays dead
I'm sure he's everywhere in the caribbean by now.
Mermaid
08/19/2010, 06:37 am
That's a matter of opinion...
There's actually no "good" or "bad", "right" or wrong" in this world, remember.
Chyron8472
08/19/2010, 10:05 pm
There's actually no "good" or "bad", "right" or wrong" in this world, remember.
*ahem*
"...Yes there are, you just never learned them." :D
It was a serious letdown to see that annoying Morgan kept alive
ah.
...
wait, what??
Morgan was an awesome character. And hot. Morgan is hot. :D
Also, I thought the general consensus on the forums was that DeSinge was only slightly less annoying than the Soda Poppers.
Polychrome
08/19/2010, 10:42 pm
I'm sure he's everywhere in the caribbean by now.
Eeewwww. De Singe sprinkles!
(And Morgan's not alive...)
mlrockrules
08/20/2010, 04:49 am
SPOILERS ALERT!
The fact that he wasn't (or didn't think that he was) French only added to the potential for more hilarity :D
.
Where is there any evidence that De Singe is not really French?
coolsome
08/20/2010, 05:28 am
Where is there any evidence that De Singe is not really French?
De Singe says it when you ask why he isn't wearing a french beret insted of a turban
coolsome
08/20/2010, 05:30 am
*ahem*
Also, I thought the general consensus on the forums was that DeSinge was only slightly less annoying than the Soda Poppers.
but he was less in your face then them
SHODANFreeman
08/20/2010, 08:09 am
Morgan is hot. :D
I suppose if you're into digital monkeys wearing makeup, then she's totally hot.
Papa Pishu
08/20/2010, 12:14 pm
Morgan is hot. :Dpfeh you can keep her. She wasn't half as cute as my wife, I mean Elaine :3
Chyron8472
08/20/2010, 12:52 pm
I'm also married.
But Morgan is still hot. :)
By "wasn't half as cute as [...] Elaine," which version of which game? I admit Elaine from the VGA closeups in SoMI is also hot (though I just can't say which is better between VGA closeup SoMI Elaine and ToMI Morgan.)
Mermaid
08/20/2010, 01:00 pm
(though I just can't say which is better between VGA closeup SoMI Elaine and ToMI Morgan.)
But there's s a huge difference in details between those close ups! :eek:
GuruGuru214
08/20/2010, 01:22 pm
I suppose if you're into digital monkeys wearing makeup, then she's totally hot.
How dare you, sir! To the field of honor!
coolsome
08/20/2010, 01:45 pm
How dare you, sir! To the field of honor!
banjos at dawn?
SHODANFreeman
08/20/2010, 01:48 pm
How dare you, sir! To the field of honor!
I choose the banjo.
GuruGuru214
08/20/2010, 02:18 pm
Certainly.
-locks the gun pile in a chest, sticks the only key down his pants, picks up the banjo, and shreds-
And they say you never learn anything from adventure games.
Polychrome
08/20/2010, 02:37 pm
I'm surprised somebody didn't yell "JINX!"
guitarsareboring
08/20/2010, 02:44 pm
I hated him. He was annoying (and not in a good way).
This. He was like an annoying cartoon villain.
zhebrica
08/20/2010, 03:16 pm
I thought DeSinge was a good villain, but I don't particularly want him to be brought back. He ran his course and was defeated in a satisfying way.
Debbie82
08/20/2010, 06:04 pm
Don't forget the funny way when De Singe sings "Alouette" while working on the Harpsichronotron. Funny! :D
Soultaker
08/20/2010, 06:33 pm
Wow, I'm surprised at the hatred for Marquis De Singe in this topic. I loved him as a character! But I also think he fulfilled the role he had to play in the story, so I didn't mind him getting killed. He was a villain after all.
It was a serious letdown to see that annoying Morgan kept alive (when ironically her character would've been redeemed a lot much more if she stayed dead)
What are you talking about? Morgan is dead. Being a ghost pirate hunter is not the same as returning in the flesh like Guybrush did. Morgan gave literally gave up her life to allow Guybrush to save Elayne and defeat Lechuck, thereby redeeming herself.
Papa Pishu
08/20/2010, 09:03 pm
What are you talking about? Morgan is dead.You know what I mean, she is not "dead" as in "never going to plausibly reappear in another Monkey Island game" unlike .. unlike mon amour, de Singe :(
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