Epic Mickey cover doesnt look epic!

[Darkblader]

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=76063

http://i53.tinypic.com/2hp0k0l.jpg

Safe to say...I'm disappointed.

[RingmasterJ5]

Mickey does look good, but that rabbit(Oswald) just throws it off.

[Giant Tope]

I dunno, I like it. It's not like everything is shoved into a small rectangle.

[Remolay]

safe to say, it's more awesome than you think

[Rather Dashing]

Mickey does look good, but that rabbit(Oswald) just throws it off.
Are you saying you have a problem with Oswald? Because Oswald being on anything makes it about 500% more awesome.

[RingmasterJ5]

Are you saying you have a problem with Oswald? Because Oswald being on anything makes it about 500% more awesome.

No, just on this one picture. A smiling, jumping rabbit feels off compared to the other aspects of the box art.

[GuruGuru214]

I like it.

[figmentPez]

So, we're judging a game by it's box art? It's nearly two months away from release, and I've yet to see any reviewers comment on anywhere near a final version. I have read some really good things about the gameplay mechanics that are being implemented, as far as player choice efffecting storyline, but demos at tradeshows haven't been long enough to show those off.

This game could go either way. It might be the generic platformer with a Disney skin that some are saying, or it could be a story-driven game about choices and their consequences that's a shining addition to Warren Spector's already impressive portfolio.

[GuruGuru214]

No, the box art is being judged. People kind of do that around here. (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15368)

[Ashton]

I agree, not epic, but still cool.

I'm getting some kinda darker more serious vibe than from previous covers... (wonder if this carries over into the game itself...? ...nah, it's Disney, I'm sure everything inside is all fluffy clouds and unicorns that fart rainbows....)

[Giant Tope]

I agree, not epic, but still cool.

Why not?

I'm getting some kinda darker more serious vibe than from previous covers... (wonder if this carries over into the game itself...? ...nah, it's Disney, I'm sure everything inside is all fluffy clouds and unicorns that fart rainbows....)

:( i can't tell if you're serious or not.

[coolsome]

its awesome but not epic

[Spadge]

I remember the concept art... Now, that WAS epic.
http://thegamefanatics.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/epicmickeygicover.jpg

[Hayden]

No, the box art is being judged. People kind of do that around here. (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15368)

Haha! I could tell which thread you'd linked to before I even clicked onto it.

I wonder if this thread will turn into another massive collaborative photoshop? :D

[Rather Dashing]

Haha! I could tell which thread you'd linked to before I even clicked onto it.

Shush, you.

[adventureaddict]

It's just too...white.

[Hayden]

Shush, you.

Yes, sir.

[Giant Tope]

Just because something's clean/simple doesn't mean it's worse.
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/2/367472_front.jpg

http://www.gametab.com/images/ss/ps2/1396/box-l-jp.jpg

For example, which one of these is better? You better not say the first one, because that's not the right answer. >:I

[coolsome]

You better not say the first one, because that's not the right answer. >:I

but I like the first one

[Hayden]

I like the first one... but I like the second one better.

Giant Tope's right. Sometimes less is better.

Except, there are times when simplicity can just be plain boring (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31iAyEykxXL._SS500_.jpg), at times slightly dumb (http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/10WHITEALBUM.JPG), and sometimes just ridiculous (http://www.cs.rochester.edu/~ferguson/spinal-tap/smell-the-glove.gif) :D. That final one is for comedic value, though, as it was a Spinal Tap album cover. But U2 and the Beatles have no excuse!

[coolsome]

I like the first one... but I like the second one better.


Well I like the first one but I like the second one to but which is better? theres only one way to find out FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!

[Hayden]

"Why fight when you can negotiate?" - Jack Sparrow

[coolsome]

"Why fight when you can negotiate?" - Jack Sparrow

thats also the adventure game code

[wefeelgroove]

It's ok, but I think I like the mock-up with just the logo (http://progresscityusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/EpicMickeyBox_web.jpg) better. Still super excited for this, though, and seriously considering saving up for the collector's edition.

[Leplaya]

Guys
Can you guys just stop bashing it and wait for the game to come out? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN_yLCPU8Mw)

[Giant Tope]

I've played a demo of the game. It was pretty good.

[doodo!]

The concept art was epic though.

[SHODANFreeman]

I remember the concept art... Now, that WAS epic.

That concept art with some tweaks as a wraparound cover would've been amazing.

I hate how many games blast white all over their box art just to fit in with the Wii's "everything must be white" philosophy.

[Giant Tope]

I hate how many games blast white all over their box art just to fit in with the Wii's "everything must be white" philosophy.

I really don't think that's what they were going for.

[SHODANFreeman]

I really don't think that's what they were going for.

That must be why 99% of Wii games have overly white covers and entirely white spines, because they aren't intentionally trying to make everything white, it's all just one big coincidence that every publisher happens to release covers that happen to be the same exact color as every other game.

[Giant Tope]

The Wii doesn't exactly hold a monopoly on the color white. If it wanted to follow the color coding of the Wii, it would be white, grey, and blue. Which is the Wii's colors. Your speculation is honestly kinda sophomoric.

Looking at the design aesthetics, the white background allows the focus of the image to pop in contrast making for a more striking image. It shows just as much as is required without a sensory overload. As a very plain background allows, the image that they are trying to show becomes far more focused and intense. This has nothing to do with the fact that it is on the Wii.

[SHODANFreeman]

The Wii doesn't exactly hold a monopoly on the color white. If it wanted to follow the color coding of the Wii, it would be white, grey, and blue. Which is the Wii's colors. Your speculation is honestly kinda sophomoric.

Go to a store and look at the Wii section. That is all.

This has nothing to do with the fact that it is on the Wii.

Keep telling yourself that.

[Giant Tope]

...why must you make me do this?

http://goo.gl/jucx

http://www.adriatiko.com/photos/products/5/3565/PS3%20Ridge%20Racer%207.jpg

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/images/achievements/665/cover.jpg

http://www.gameexpress.com/images/product/original/813582010257F.JPG

http://www.covershut.com/covers/Final-Fantasy-XIII-ASIAN--Front-Cover-26902.jpg

http://granturismoseries.com/+gran-turismo-5-prologue.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00295/mag_32d2d182518_w40_295869t.jpg

http://enjoystick.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/prototype_cover.jpg

http://www.intkeys.com/images/Unreal-Tournament-3.jpg

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/white-knight-chronicles-international-edition-box-artwork.jpg

It has to do with design aesthetics. If it wanted to play up the fact that it's for the Wii, Mickey would be holding a Wiimote, not a paintbrush, it would have looked like this:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_d0JOXNNBVVg/TCzYt5wyFBI/AAAAAAAABD4/IiQJDXawZJE/s1600/Mario+Kart+Wii.jpg

[SHODANFreeman]

I didn't say that games on other platforms have never used white before, just that Wii games are white more frequently than not, and at least the spine is white on 99% of Wii titles.

Please read my posts more carefully before responding with nonsense that has nothing to do with anything and takes up 20 posts worth of space with gigantic images. Thanks.

[Remolay]

the spine one is Nintendo's idea.

Also, the white background thing. That is seriously one of the first things I've learned in Marketing class. Colours mean a lot.

[corruptbiggins]

...and at least the spine is white on 99% of Wii titles.

That's not limited to Wii titles as far as I can remember just about all of PS2 game boxes have the same spine design. A common spine design is used so that people can easily identity what system a game is for just by a quick glance of the spine. PS3 & 360 games generally all have the same colour case (clear for the PS3, green for 360) for much the same reason.

As for the rest of the cover, out of the 11 Wii games that I own, only two could possibly be described as having a predominantly white covers, and that's pushing it for one of them anyway.

[Giant Tope]

A quick run through of metacritic shows that Wii games (http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/wii/date) hold about the same consistency of white background games compared to PS3 games (http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps3/date) or XBox 360 games (http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/xbox360/date?view=list&num_items=100&page=0), if not even less. So I'm not sure where you're even getting the basis of "Wii games have more white background game covers, therefore that's why this game is doing it".

[BoneFreak]

I think sometimes to make something look really good it has to stand out on its own.

Can anyone say, Apple? (http://digitalangelmaster.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/ws-apple-logo-black-1440x900-thumb.jpg)

[SHODANFreeman]

That's not limited to Wii titles as far as I can remember just about all of PS2 game boxes have the same spine design. A common spine design is used so that people can easily identity what system a game is for just by a quick glance of the spine. PS3 & 360 games generally all have the same colour case (clear for the PS3, green for 360) for much the same reason.

There's a difference between reserving an inch on a spine for uniformity's sake and pretty much mandating that every spine be white. Out of the 20 Wii games I own, only 2 of them have a spine that is anything but white, and only one has a case that isn't white. (New Super Mario Bros Wii was randomly entirely red, for some reason)

A quick run through of metacritic shows that Wii games (http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/wii/date) hold about the same consistency of white background games compared to PS3 games (http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps3/date) or XBox 360 games (http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/xbox360/date?view=list&num_items=100&page=0), if not even less. So I'm not sure where you're even getting the basis of "Wii games have more white background game covers, therefore that's why this game is doing it".

Because I have eyes?

Back on topic, the cover doesn't look like "Epic Mickey", it looks like "Mickey's Learn to Paint"

[jeeno0142]

That must be why 99% of Wii games have overly white covers...

I think it's mostly Nintendo's own games (i.e wii fit) that have that whole 'white' thing going on. Even then it's not all of them.

out of the 11 Wii games that I own, only two could possibly be described as having a predominantly white covers, and that's pushing it for one of them anyway.

I checked mine, and out of the 10 that I have, only 3 have white covers.

[Giant Tope]

Because I have eyes?

Back on topic, the cover doesn't look like "Epic Mickey", it looks like "Mickey's Learn to Paint"

Good on you to avoid the subject and move to something else. If you don't like it, then cool. I don't like a lot of things either, but I don't try to make up reasons that aren't true to try to back it up.

[corruptbiggins]

There's a difference between reserving an inch on a spine for uniformity's sake and pretty much mandating that every spine be white. Out of the 20 Wii games I own, only 2 of them have a spine that is anything but white, and only one has a case that isn't white. (New Super Mario Bros Wii was randomly entirely red, for some reason)

Like I said, it's not a new thing. Look at a collection of PS2 or Dreamcast games and you'll see that nearly all of them have the same spine design (I do know that the PS2 Platinum collection games have a different design but all games in that collection use it). And why is that such a bad thing anyway?

[JedExodus]

We're getting bent out of shape about the colour palletes on game boxes now? Fun

[SHODANFreeman]

Good on you to avoid the subject and move to something else. If you don't like it, then cool. I don't like a lot of things either, but I don't try to make up reasons that aren't true to try to back it up.

Many more Wii games have had bland white covers than other consoles have had, and a cursory glance at a single page of games doesn't somehow make you "right". Go to a store and see for yourself.

PS: Just because you'd like to think yourself some kind of art connoisseur, that doesn't make the Epic Mickey cover any less underwhelming.

Like I said, it's not a new thing. Look at a collection of PS2 or Dreamcast games and you'll see that nearly all of them have the same spine design (I do know that the PS2 Platinum collection games have a different design but all games in that collection use it). And why is that such a bad thing anyway?

I didn't say consistent spine labeling was a bad thing, I said that Nintendo is forcing people to use a white spine, in most cases.

[Giant Tope]

I wouldn't give a rat's ass if someone didn't like it, if it weren't for the fact that the claim made no sense, you know?

[SHODANFreeman]

I wouldn't give a rat's ass if someone didn't like it, if it weren't for the fact that the claim made no sense, you know?

It makes perfect sense. Go to a store and look at the Wii shelf. How many times do I have to say that?

[Giant Tope]

Many more Wii games have had bland white covers than other consoles have had, and a cursory glance at a single page of games doesn't somehow make you "right". Go to a store and see for yourself.

Except I just linked to a website that has all the Wii games ever and their covers and showed that that wasn't the case. Also, I've been to many stores, thank you very much.

PS: Just because you'd like to think yourself some kind of art connoisseur, that doesn't make the Epic Mickey cover any less underwhelming.


I'm sorry that my mother was an artist and I was unvolunteerly (but not unwelcome) taught from all sorts of artists about basic design theory? Hell, this was stuff I learned in middle school art class. Like I said, if you don't like it, cool. There's a lot of opinions out there. I really don't mind.

[Comrade Pants]

TIL that minimalism apparently isn't "epic." You kids and your... blah... ness.

[SHODANFreeman]

Except I just linked to a website that has all the Wii games ever and their covers and showed that that wasn't the case. Also, I've been to many stores, thank you very much.

A random list of games isn't going to filter out ports, which have the same art regardless of platform typically, nor did many of the games on any of those pages even have final art shown, given that most of them aren't even out yet. The games that have white covers on Wii are most often "Wii exclusive" and not M-rated (though MadWorld is M-rated and the cover is predominantly white, as is most of the game itself :p), and almost every Nintendo title has a predominantly white cover.

I'm sorry that my mother was an artist and I was unvolunteerly (but not unwelcome) taught from all sorts of artists about basic design theory? Like I said, if you don't like it, cool. There's a lot of opinions out there. I really don't mind.

That still doesn't make the cover suck any less. Following "basic design theory" does not a good cover make.

[DoctorCello]

That still doesn't make the cover suck any less. Following "basic design theory" does not a good cover make.

http://i51.tinypic.com/vet1le.png

Explain yourself.

[Comrade Pants]

That still doesn't make the cover suck any less. Following "basic design theory" does not a good cover make.

That made my head hurt.

[SHODANFreeman]

...you've never heard the phrase "does not a _____ make"?

[Remolay]

It's that "Following Basic Design Theory does not" that annoys me.

[SHODANFreeman]

The sentence is perfectly valid.

[Giant Tope]

...you've never heard the phrase "does not a _____ make"?

Just like how following a time-tested recipe does not a good dish make?

..

oh wait

[SHODANFreeman]

Just like how following a time-tested recipe does not a good dish make?

..

oh wait

The cover looks terrible. Deal with it.

[Comrade Pants]

The cover looks terrible. Deal with it.

Isn't that terribly subjective?

[SHODANFreeman]

Isn't that terribly subjective?

No. Putting simple text and a bland, boring image of Mickey splashing some paint about is a bad cover. Anyone can see that.

[JedExodus]

No. Putting simple text and a bland, boring image of Mickey splashing some paint about is a bad cover. Anyone can see that.

I like it, just because you don't

But seriously, I like it

[Remolay]

I would cue Groo the Wanderer saying "I can plainly see that." but I really like this cover. It really does jump out at me. And from what I've learned from marketing class, this will likely attract many people. Your valid statement is false. Deal with it.

[SHODANFreeman]

Apparently you like bland things with way too much wasted space. And random bunnies jumping out of nowhere.

[Comrade Pants]

But seriously, I like it

See? Subjective. That's how art works. Just because I despise abstract art, that doesn't mean it's bad. Other people like it, ergo; it's perfectly valid. Art cannot be good or bad as this is the realm of opinion - something that is never objective.

[JedExodus]

Art cannot be good or bad as this is the realm of opinion - something that is never objective.

To be fair, i'd say that this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bed) is just some smelly tarts bed and devoid of merit

EDIT: Post count's at 1,234. I need to post something bloody good to break this. Nice knowing you all folks

[Giant Tope]

Apparently you like bland things with way too much wasted space. And random bunnies jumping out of nowhere.

wait, who's the pretentious one here?

[DoctorCello]

Apparently you like bland things with way too much wasted space. And random bunnies jumping out of nowhere.

That 'wasted space' is called negative space. It's there so that the cover focuses completely on the subject. If it was filled up with random stuff then Mickey wouldn't stand out as much.

Of course, that last sentence shows that you really don't care about this game, and thus you're a troll. So, uh, yeah, have fun with that.

[Comrade Pants]

To be fair, i'd say that this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bed) is just some smelly tarts bed and devoid of merit

EDIT: Post count's at 1,234. I need to post something bloody good to break this. Nice knowing you all folks

Oh, yes. It's bad art... in our opinions. Still, some brain damaged old sod somewhere probably thinks it's worth something, so it's still art by definition.


MAKE A NEW PROFILE.

[JedExodus]

MAKE A NEW PROFILE.

Good idea NOW MY POST COUNT CAN LIVE ON FOREVER!!!

[Giant Tope]

NO, JED, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooo

[Comrade Pants]

good idea now my post count can live on forever!!!

D:

Start deleting posts!

[Rather Dashing]

Oh, yes. It's bad art... in our opinions. Still, some brain damaged old sod somewhere probably thinks it's worth something, so it's still art by definition.
I like how, ever since you stopped being a troll, you've been trolling more than ever just by being you, buddy.

[Comrade Pants]

I like how, ever since you stopped being a troll, you've been trolling more than ever just by being you, buddy.

I know! Isn't it great? BOOOOORRRRNNN TO BE TROOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL!