Dat Roar....

[Tiranno]

So telltale....why use the knockoff when you have rights to the original? The Tyrannosaur shouldn't sound like chewbacca. I watched the recent Xbox demo and that horrendous roar is still in the game. Please tell me its temporary.

[waroftheworlds01]

I wouldn't call the roar horrendous. It sounded just fine in Dino Crisis and it sounds just fine now. However, this isn't Dino Crisis. So the real T-Rex roar would be great.

[Jawmuncher]

There might have been a issue with the sound to use it or something we'll see.
I don't mind it and will love the game regardless, but if they could put the original roar that would be a nice treat

[Irishmile]

To me the T-Rex roar is iconic... its like if they made a Jaws game and didn't use the Jaws theme when the shark was on the hunt.... Or if James Bond ordered a drink and stirred it XD

[Sisyphus]

Right now I'm keeping the faith that that...roar...was either a mistake or a "temp track" of sorts.

May not turn out that way, but darn it I gotta believe! Especially since, as someone pointed out earlier, in the earlier teaser clip they actually did use the right roar.

[Icedhope]

I've seen two gameplay video's where the roar is used...

[Sisyphus]

I've seen two gameplay video's where the roar is used...

Do you have links to either gameplay video? I'm sure they'd be appreciated. :)

[Captain_Jack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QByEE_0QY_s
featuring everyone's favourite T-REX style roar

http://www.giantbomb.com/quick-look-road-show-jurassic-park/17-3818/
the other "not-so-wonderful" roar occurs towards the end of this otherwise amazing gameplay vid

[Irishmile]

They have to change it.... its so early ... they have no good reason not too... its not like they have to hire Earl Boen or something to perform it.... don't they have access to universal's sound effects library?

I mean really?

This is bone chilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V595oWP5tSE&feature=related

This is just silly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq0ULaWpfQ4#t=00m52s

[Captain_Jack]

Check this out Irishmile...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKiJ6YC33E&feature=related

now THAT is silly... :)

[Pacificsun0481]

I just watched a YouTube teaser for the first time. My partner and our buddy Megan was over and such. They were watching the Scream 4 trailer. Being fans of Jurassic Park, I asked them if they wanted to see something more epic...

Well, I unknowingly watched the teaser with them (and they both commented) that the tyrannosaurus sounded like Chewbacca or a cracked out Wookie.

I hope they use a more majestic sound in the actual game, fitting for a Tyrannosaur.

[Tiranno]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwlDW8qFGFA&feature=related

Pick one, any one!

[Frode798]

It sounded TERRIBLE. They are doing a big mistake picking that crappy roar over the iconic and epic roar from the movie.

[guitarsareboring]

There's still time to change it and hopefully they will. When I read people's complaints about the roar I thought 'oh dear, he we go again' but it really does sound limp.

[Burnwurscht]

Yeah i agree with everybody. I watched the trailer and it is excellent, but the roaarr from the T-Rex really killed any immersion....give the T-Rex his iconic audio back from the movie ASAP...

[Sadonicus]

LOL, how could TT fuck something important like this up. Not good PR...

[RexMaster]

Unless any of you can design a better game instead of sitting at home and playing all of TT's games and complaining, why dont you enjoy it and look for the good side. THis is the first Jurassic Park game since 2003 and other than JPOG and Trespasser, this looks like itll be the best developed game ever for Jurassic Park! They're just testing the waters, if its successful, season 2 or 3 could be reproductions of ur fave JP games so just enjoy it for once cuz that trailer was epic!
What I would still like to know is if TTG is just putting that roar to get ppl complaining and when the game comes out they'll change it and ppl will put great reviews just cuz of that or if they're gonna keep this crappy one. I do not like it but I will not complain because this is the greatest work in the Jurassic Park franchise since the first or second movie, or the 3 years we waited for the Trespasser of our dreams.
If anyone from the team can confirm that this is just a temporary one I will be fine, although I will be fine either way. The one minor complaint i might have is the way the raptor curls its arms after it jumps as apposed to standing up straight again, then charging, but they still look great and more than I would've ever dreamed!
Anyway, Telltale, it looks like your gonna take care of us, atleast on the first episode, so don't mess up because I really wanna continue buying non-JP games from this company if BTTF and JP pay off at the end. A little advice though, work hard on 4 and 5 so they don't look crappy just incase theres complaints on ep 3 for example, then you can make a comback to make a series 2. The only reason I say that is because like with the recent Jurassic Park: Redemption comics, It got pretty bad by issue 3 and ppl thought it would still improve but it got so bad in the following episodes, people were hesitant to buy the next series, which is WAAAYYYY better btw. Anyway, just trying to help. Thanks again to the Jurassic Park Team of Telltale Games! :D

[Irishmile]

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/878/dnaz.jpg

[RexMaster]

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/878/dnaz.jpg

Very nice! lol
And I wasnt talking about you, you actually gave an alternative to a better roar if i remember right, a few posts back, but i was talkinga bout all the ppl that just complain and dont offer any help on making it better except saying "that sucks, use the real roar"
lol

[Irishmile]

Ok here is the deal... I think the Roar could be fine if they slowed it down, lowered the pitch just a little, and added a touch of bass... Quick someone with video editing skills slow that down and lower it so we can hear how that sounds.

[Icedhope]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QByEE_0QY_s this is what confuses me, they use the roar in the E3 Trailer...

[Kraven]

Very nice! lol
And I wasnt talking about you, you actually gave an alternative to a better roar if i remember right, a few posts back, but i was talkinga bout all the ppl that just complain and dont offer any help on making it better except saying "that sucks, use the real roar"
lol

What everyone is getting at is that Telltale have the actual rights to almost everything Universal Studios has in regards to JP, most of us would think that would mean the right to use sound clips and so on to give the game more Depth, because honestly.. does Universal Studios really want another failure of a JP game on their hands?

[shamuboy]

Ok here is the deal... I think the Roar could be fine if they slowed it down, lowered the pitch just a little, and added a touch of bass... Quick someone with video editing skills slow that down and lower it so we can hear how that sounds.

I can agree with you on that. I actually just did it in Sony Vegas. It sounds SO much better.

But the original T-Rex roar would be... best.

[Shadowknight1]

Ok here is the deal... I think the Roar could be fine if they slowed it down, lowered the pitch just a little, and added a touch of bass... Quick someone with video editing skills slow that down and lower it so we can hear how that sounds.

Not the best quality, but I tried it for ya Irish.

http://www.mediafire.com/?e88py7yd3ub182d

What gets me is that the trailer has the music from the movie, the Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor growls from the movie, and then this stock T-rex roar that sounds like it came from one of those Combat of Giants Dinosaurs games.

[shamuboy]

Not the best quality, but I tried it for ya Irish.

http://www.mediafire.com/?e88py7yd3ub182d

What gets me is that the trailer has the music from the movie, the Dilophosaurus and Velociraptor growls from the movie, and then this stock T-rex roar that sounds like it came from one of those Combat of Giants Dinosaurs games.

Yea! I've noticed that the Dilopho and the Raptors each have the same squeals and roars. I heard from somebody that the T-Rex Roar was trademarked and copyighted... I dunno. -Shrugs- That already sounds better then the first one though!

[Icedhope]

Yea! I've noticed that the Dilopho and the Raptors each have the same squeals and roars. I heard from somebody that the T-Rex Roar was trademarked and copyighted... I dunno. -Shrugs- That already sounds better then the first one though!

It's trademarked and copyrighted by universal, and they have the license from universal.

[Irishmile]

This just in... I found some sound bites that will be used for the raptors.
Here
(http://kessels.com/CatSounds/Rudy.wav)
Ok obviously I am just teasing..

[Tiranno]

Kind of an update

Tyrannosaur over at JPlegacy wrote his thoughts on the front page. He says this:

"I did inform them though about the obvious mistake of using the T. rex roar from the Carnivores/Dino-Crisis series of games."

Hopefully they will fix this! It is a major issue on my part.

[Icedhope]

Hopefully they will fix this! It is a major issue on my part.

It is for me too....it's like replacing the tie fighter sound effects, with an ordinary car...or a Light saber sound effects of a squeaky toy.

[Sadonicus]

It is for me too....it's like replacing the tie fighter sound effects, with an ordinary car...or a Light saber sound effects of a squeaky toy.

I totally second that!

[hallis]

It is for me too....it's like replacing the tie fighter sound effects, with an ordinary car...or a Light saber sound effects of a squeaky toy.

Agreed

[SpielbergFan]

It's like replacing Herman's score during the "Psycho" shower scene with the theme from "I know what you did last summer part 3".

[Shadowknight1]

It is for me too....it's like replacing the tie fighter sound effects, with an ordinary car...or a Light saber sound effects of a squeaky toy.

I normally wouldn't have a problem with sound effects being changed. I didn't gripe about BttF's incorrect use of the plutonium chamber refill noise instead of the sounds for refilling Mr. Fusion(which are almost non-existant anyways) among others. But the Tyrannosaur roar in Jurassic Park is so iconic that I actually get disappointed any time I see a Rex in a movie/show/video game and they give it some boring stock roar.

[Irishmile]

Its like if George Jefferson moved on down to the west side

Its like if He-man didn't secretly have a crush on Skeletor

Its like if Harry never met Sally

Its like if Sarah Palin understood politics

Its like if MC Hammer was OK with people touchin this.

Its like if William Wallace just said "LEEROY JENKINS!!!!" before battle.

its like if the ghostbusters WERE afraid of some ghost.

Its like if Rick Astley give you up, let you down, ran around and deserted you

[hallis]

Could we get an official answer from the telltale team to confirm that this crappy rex roar is just a placeholder? Please?

[Captain_Jack]

Naturally, I won't share it with the world because it would probably breach some form of legality (and I respect Telltale a lot), but recutting the trailer to use the "iconic" T-Rex roar sounds amazing!!!! With the footage of that charging Tyrannosaur, the build up to it, the roar lingering over the title!! Ah man...

[Irishmile]

its the weekend they are probably all busy having BBQs, avoiding calls from their mothers, or stealing their neighbors newspaper... You know typical weekend stuff.

[Trenchfoot]

Ty at JP-Legacy said he informed TellTale about the roar and they told him they were going to correct it. So no worries there :)

[Captain_Jack]

Thats great news Trenchfoot, thanks for that info. :)

[Sisyphus]

There's really no reason not to fix it. :D

[Icedhope]

Ty at JP-Legacy said he informed TellTale about the roar and they told him they were going to correct it. So no worries there :)

Well good...trench you a member over there too?

[Woodsyblue]

With the sheer volume of people complaining about the roar I'd be surprised if they didn't change it. My only worry would be if they can find an official roar that goes for the length they want.

Do the dinosaurs use the Telltale Tools lip-syncing technology?

[Giupy]

As shown in the E3 teaser, the sound symbol of Jurassic Park is T-Rex roar.

Enjoy it guys! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAfz9v34qWg&feature=related

[Trenchfoot]

Well good...trench you a member over there too?

Yeah, I'm Microceratops over there. And what about you?

[shamuboy]

Ahh. The T-Rex roar still gives me goosebumps!

[Irishmile]

I have been doing a lot of teasing in this thread... and I know the kids at TTG have a sense of humor and can take it... but I would like to say I do honestly think they will work on it... I also have faith that I will enjoy their JP game.

[Icedhope]

Yeah, I'm Microceratops over there. And what about you?

it's the same name I have here.


Yeah, I think they'll fix it too, because well..telltale has always listened to their community.

[OMA]

There's really no reason not to fix it. :D

Yeah, "can't think of a reason not to" ;)

Actually, I can't think of a reason for why they used that sound for the trailer, which is supposed to drive sales. That weak sound effect alone must have put a lot of people off preordering.

[Trenchfoot]

Ahem....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k80uU3GZkfs&feature=player_embedded

[waroftheworlds01]

Just in case TellTale needs a reminder of what the roar sounds like. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQWvJGY3qyc&feature=player_embedded

[Trenchfoot]

I just posted that on the post above you XD

[waroftheworlds01]

yeah, but your video was removed for some reason.

[Masta23]

So telltale....why use the knockoff when you have rights to the original? The Tyrannosaur shouldn't sound like chewbacca. I watched the recent Xbox demo and that horrendous roar is still in the game. Please tell me its temporary.
I would imagine that we wil get the real T-Rex roar once the game is released. I expect the other roar is just a placeholder.

[LuigiHann]

I might not be the first to point this out, but I think the roars should sound like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prgm4eKq6d4

[doodo!]

To the people complaining about the roar. It is clearly part of a soundboard of different T-Rex roars. Even in the original films it didn't sound exactly the same every time.


Now shut up...

[Tiranno]

To the people complaining about the roar. It is clearly part of a soundboard of different T-Rex roars. Even in the original films it didn't sound exactly the same every time.


Now shut up...

To the uninformed simpleton.

The roar used is the obvious knockoff from "Dino Crisis" and takes the menace away from the Tyrannosaur who is the icon of this franchise. It would be the equivalent to using a ostrich for the Raptors.

Now shut up...

[RexMaster]

Just in case TellTale needs a reminder of what the roar sounds like. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQWvJGY3qyc&feature=player_embedded

I believe the phrase is legit...

[Sisyphus]

Just in case TellTale needs a reminder of what the roar sounds like. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQWvJGY3qyc&feature=player_embedded

So much better.

[Giupy]

just in case telltale needs a reminder of what the roar sounds like. Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqwvjgy3qyc&feature=player_embedded

great!

[doodo!]

To the uninformed simpleton.

The roar used is the obvious knockoff from "Dino Crisis" and takes the menace away from the Tyrannosaur who is the icon of this franchise. It would be the equivalent to using a ostrich for the Raptors.

Now shut up...

Uniformed simplteon, haha. Do you have a clue? At all?

I've been around entertainment my entire life. Do you know that video games/ movies have been using the same sounds for DECADES? Do you have even the tiniest clue!?

1000s of movies and video games re use the same sound effects...

It would be stupid to use one sound effect for the dino in every scene if not laughable.

Only a fool would believe that they would reuse the same sound over and over again, especially in the same scene...:p

Obviously you never actually had the sophication to actually listen to your movies, video games, tv shows, if you had you'd hear many many MAN MANY MANY MANY of the same sounds....
But, if it's not a B movie, or a comedy, it's not likely the be the same sound over and over again...

You're just whining, for no reason, you haven't seen more than one scene with a Rex and you're bitching because it's not the same exact roar, and it's actually some what close to the roar you're expecting...

You obviously are closed minded and jump to conclusions far too soon...I think it sounds fine...

You're all hot air. When you'e playing the game and hear the roar, that you want so badly, your silly thread will be appropiately closed. Tell me, genius, as I'm the simpleton, do you really think that TTG didn't add the famous dino roar to the games sound files? Do you honestly believe that it's going to be the same sound effects over and over again?

I highly, highly doubt that they aren't going to use the roar or atleast something similiar to it, maybe TTG is a bunch of simpletons too but I think they're likely to agree that you got to mix things up a little.

Maybe they felt it wasn't appropiate for the trailer, for that scene to use that Dino roar. I think it's fair to say that's a subjective issue.

I'm not a wet fan boy, but I have watched the movies and I do enjoy them. I was born in 87. I had no idea how many things fan boys would find to complain about. Like stretched out images of raptors...

When making a game you have SEVERAL sound effects, they must of thought it was appropiate to mix things up a little. Obviously they didn't know you and so many other wet blankets were going to cry over the trailer. And it's your right, it's not the dino roar that you are so affectionate about...But, there are no intelligent implications or arguments that it's the only roar in the game. But I think it's atleast tolerable to see people who think it shouldn't have been the choice for the trailer.

But if anyone had(s) a clue how video games work they won't complain that a sound effect is resused from other material...it works that way in the industry.

It's your opinion it sounds horrible, to me it sounds fine, it just doesn't sound like the original sound they used. It even sounds some what close to me...

[Sadonicus]

...way too much emotions...

God, calm down!

The T-Rex roar should be bone chilling and menacing, this is just weak an limp!

If you would be a JP-Fan, you would think the same. And as you might noticed, anyone on this forum and EVERY other forum or comment section in the internet say the same, soooo maybe its not that pointless like you are trying to express.

Telltale just made an epic fail on this one, this is simply a fact, not even a complaint.

Now shut up...

[doodo!]

God, calm down!

The T-Rex roar should be bone chilling and menacing, this is just weak an limp!

If you would be a JP-Fan, you would think the same. And as you might noticed, anyone on this forum and EVERY other forum or comment section in the internet say the same, soooo maybe its not that pointless like you are trying to express.

Telltale just made an epic fail on this one, this is simply a fact, not even a complaint.

Now shut up...

The whiney fan boy explained, perhaps...
http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23073

What you're doing is socially acceptable. As you're acting as part of a in crowd, a in voice.

The most common, natural, way for human beings to grow is some sort of conflict, because it challenges them and in certain areas they believe they earn respect, authority, knoweldge, power.
You, as a fan boy, feel like you're in power over some one like me, who has no problem with the Rex sounding different at times. When in reality, most people don't live in reality by the way...it's just that simple conflict that you lean on to build your character, indentity, personal interests. It gives you a sense of security and comfort and a feeling of satistifcation that you are able to understand content and there for appreciate it. Then after comes purely objective forms of information, trivial facts, everything dotted and crossed.

It's the easiest, simpliest way for human beings to functional socially, and it's in your nature, with wars, and fights, ego, strives to be a individual, etc etc. Their are no true indivudals.

You are baising everything on social standards, coming together to whine about a Tex roar, last I heard a real one was millions if not billions of years ago...

I watch puppets, all on the same strings, come together and whine, I'm not surprised. Hell, even I'm doing the same thing for myself. You can't escape the nature of the beast.

Ironic, I've become a hypocrite.

The reality is that as a form of entertainment you draw a subjective connection to the content in the movie, it's to entertain. When that content is altered, challenged, changed, after it's in your nature to start conflicts yourself because it's in your nature to fight, challenge, argue, cause wars...

It's how you believe you grow and reinforce most of your interests, personalities. No one is reserved. Some one always has to be wrong or right...in a failing race that will soon destroy itself in just a few 100 years, it's how you all try to perserve your selves through conflict.

[Sadonicus]

...more emotions...

Yeah, yeah, everybody is stupid and your the hero :rolleyes:

You are using the words "whining" and "fan-boy" a bit too much, and yes, I AM a fan-boy, so what? Is there anything wrong with it? When someone is complaining here, he does it cause he LOVES Jurassic Park

Go on any gaming site that posted the trailer and look in the comments, these aint just a few fan-boys complaing. This Roar is just bad, live with it, its not bad because its different but because its WEAK. When... wait! Now I understand!!! God, how could I be so blind:
http://www.pr0gramm.com/data/images/2010/07/trollface.png

Edit: lol, you edited your whole post. Should have kept the real quote, just to see the difference...

[doodo!]

You are using the words "whining" and "fan-boy" a bit too much, and yes, I AM a fan-boy, so what? Is there anything wrong with it? When someone is complaining here, he does it cause he LOVES Jurassic Park

Go on any gaming site that posted the trailer and look in the comments, these aint just a few fan-boys complaing. This Roar is just bad, live with it, its not bad because its different but because its WEAK. When... wait! Now I understand!!! God, how could I be so blind:
http://www.pr0gramm.com/data/images/2010/07/trollface.png
Using images for a argument that are subjective and artistic is a lack of personal communication skills and intelligence...;)
I AM a fan-boy, so what? Is there anything wrong with it? When someone is complaining here, he does it cause he LOVES Jurassic Park


Exactly, I already told you exactly what you are, I provided a link. Don't need to tell me, at the most I might be humored at your attempt. I already said that about you and so many others. Petty...

You bore me...

[Irishmile]

I don't like the roar because its not what has been established AND because it sounds goofy.. it sort of sounds like a Muppet trying to hit a high note for comedic effect.. Not really the image you want popping into your head when a T-Rex is gonna chomp on your legs and head and stuff..

[doodo!]

I don't like the roar because its not what has been established AND because it sounds goofy.. it sort of sounds like a Muppet trying to hit a high note for comedic effect.. Not really the image you want popping into your head when a T-Rex is gonna chomp on your legs and head and stuff..

*sighs* I've whined enough myself. I apologize.
I don't plan on posting here anymore.(This thread)

I apologize if I've been rude, offensive, I'm sorry. Let me exit the thread, so that you can go on enjoying it without this extra conflict. I've failed to take my own insights into consideration for myself.

This isn't a place to preach. I'm sorry, something got to me, under my skin as the expression goes.

Nothing is certain, I shouldn't judge others without being open to the other side of things. I apologize...

Thanks for that bit of humor Irishmile and not attacking me, even though it may be deserved. It helped bring me out of it. I'm sorry I came off this way.

[Irishmile]

Nah take a page from dashing's book stick to what you think no matter the outcome.. You're entitled to your opinion... But all sides should remain respectful.

[mannyguy1]

If I may give my two cents.

I think part of the reason why people are "confused" and "baffled" because of the t-rex roar is this: The way the makers of the trailer intentionally added that last shot of the t-rex coming forwards to establish an "omg the rex is coming and he's mad moment"...yet the roar is just not what we've come to know for this situation. If it was just the t-rex yelping in pain, or just a growl it would'nt be so noticeable. But because its the t-rex actually making a loud roar it sounds silly.

Also another thing that's confusing is why the trailer doesn't use the JP roar in the first place. Even if that roar is part of the many t-rex roars and sound used in the game, they should have really thought to use the appropriate sound. Its like having a big lion coming at you and instead of roaring its meowing.

They clearly know what the dinos sound like ie the Dilophosaurus.

I'm also confused as to why no one at tell tale has come forth to say anything? or maybe they have i just dont' know about it

[Davies]

Its like having a big lion coming at you and instead of roaring its meowing.

Brilliant!

[EvilDeadFan]

I love how he insults anyone that wants the JP roar back a narcissistic fanboy, I understand what you meant, many sounds are sued over and over again in movies and other media, my personal favorite being the wihelm scream. However when you have a license to use everything from a series for a spin off, you should to stay true to the source material. Heck, if the chewbacca roar was the original JP roar, I'm sure there would be people arguing for it for consistency's sake. Lighten up pal, we came here to discuss what we're fans off, not diss each other. If you're going ot do that, just get out of here.

[doodo!]

Even when I spell it out and show it in my own faults, there is still that conflict. Why can't you find the alternative? Must we prove the ugly concept, again and again?

[Shadowknight1]

I mainly have a problem with it because I know TellTale can do better. Plus, they used the growls for the Dilo and Raptor from the movies, why not the Rex?

Still, that said, I plan on getting this game if it comes to consoles or if a demo proves that my laptop can handle it without blue-screening.

[Davies]

Lighten up pal, we came here to discuss what we're fans off, not diss each other. If you're going ot do that, just get out of here.

Um, did you forget to put a quote in there or was that (bizarrely) directed at myself (being that I was the previous poster to yourself)?

[doodo!]

Um, did you forget to put a quote in there or was that (bizarrely) directed at myself (being that I was the previous poster to yourself)?

Allow me, person observer. I think best bet he was referring to me, but I could be wrong. Again, we're fooled. Some things may be socially acceptable over others, but we all bear sins and errors in this thread. Alienating me for my weaknesses and faults is just one way to handle this.

I, myself, admitted to my own faults. I do not need to be lectured further, but I welcome friendly consul.

In fact, I wanted this thread to get back to your own topic. I'm sorry it was ever derailed.
No one in here is without fault.

Peace.

[Shadowknight1]

Allow me, person observer. I think best bet he was referring to me, but I could be wrong. Again, we're fooled. Some things may be socially acceptable over others, but we all bear sins and errors in this thread. Alienating me for my weaknesses and faults is just one way to handle this.

I, myself, admitted to my own faults. I do not need to be lectured further, but I welcome friendly consul.

You were right, of course, about sound effects being used outside of their original source. I don't know how many times I've watched an anime and heard the turbolift doors for the U.S.S. Enterprise from the original Star Trek(oftentimes not even associated with a door), the lightsaber sound effects from Star Wars(most often associated with an energy sword of some kind), or the activation sound effect for the Ghostbusters proton pack. Not to mention that I KNOW I heard the T-rex roar come from one of the creatures in James Cameron's Avatar.

[Alan Johnson]

I think it's time for some people in this thread to take a step back and take a breath before posting again.

Cough::thatmeanschillout::Cough

[doodo!]

Again, I'm sorry my mind, and my heart. Some times they aren't willed for good, aren't open to others.

I think it could be a fun thread, elsewhere, to discuss re-used sound effects. On the blunt side of things, looking down at the un-sheeved-sword, you can simply see a reflection of thought over that shadow of doubt. Fans expect and believe that the game should have the same roar, and they doubt that it might because they've once not heard it in the game.

It's when you start thrusting the sword into others that you begin to realize a whole new world. Most ideas are static, defined, but I believe only socially, once in motion they are boundless.

I struggle to understand my brothers, my sisters, my fathers, my mother, my associates.Most people don't struggle as I do as they are certain in objectivity and certain of how they restrict information and subjectivity. I'm not entirely sure myself.

I am concealed by my own philosophy, I see this as another example of social programming, rather than self programming. I'm just off in my own little lost world..

Every one is entitled to express their selves, a trailer is meant to get people talking.
I apologize, I can't stop the flow, my mind and heart is lost in a maze.

EDIT: Posted while after A.Johnson.

I apologize A Johnson for posting more of my selfish tirade. I only had the same intents as you, to make peace here. I plan to take that breather.

[RexMaster]

Telltale? i got a question, for Alan or anyone else from teh team and its totally honest... Why don't you just change the roar on the JP site, even if its not a temporary roar just for the trailer,cuz It seems you may be losing customers because of it. Im sorry I am just wondering because the edit with teh JP Rex roar sounds great and would totally make you a ton more customers just by changing the sound file in the trailer.

[EvilDeadFan]

I apologize doodo, I did not see your previous post my bad, but yes, my ideas so coming here to a relaxing chat still stands, as Alan reminded us :D

[Icedhope]

What alan said...guys we need to chil and remember to respect one another, no one is a fanboy of the other.

[Stronzo]

the t-rex roar should be perfect! if not please don't call it jurassic park

[Irishmile]

Yeah call it crustaceous park

[Davies]

The T-rex roar was and is what defines Jurassic Park. Actually, you don't even need dinosaurs or any other kind of other visual stimuli. You just need to present the player with a blank screen and have that roar on a never ending loop.

Seriously TellTale, stop trying to create assets for the upcoming game and just source the original roar. At the very least couldn't you just rename the game 'Dino Park Gone Wrong' or something? After all, you owe us. You must make the game we demand. It is our right! We are entitled to everything, you are our slaves. You are nothing without us, we made you. The way you treat us is a disgrace. Sort it out!

Sometimes, I'm ashamed to be human.

[RexMaster]

Yeah call it crustaceous park

The age of crabs?

The T-rex roar was and is what defines Jurassic Park. Actually, you don't even need dinosaurs or any other kind of other visual stimuli. You just need to present the player with a blank screen and have that roar on a never ending loop.

Seriously TellTale, stop trying to create assets for the upcoming game and just source the original roar. At the very least couldn't you just rename the game 'Dino Park Gone Wrong' or something? After all, you owe us. You must make the game we demand. It is our right! We are entitled to everything, you are our slaves. You are nothing without us, we made you. The way you treat us is a disgrace. Sort it out!

Sometimes, I'm ashamed to be human.

Uh, actually, its up to them. Dr. Wu and John Hammond customized their creations, the dinosaurs of Jurassic Park, to thier liking. They made featherless raptors that were huge instead of what they shouldve been. Wu wanted to make slow raptors even though they werent what people wanted to see. My point is, they can make the game the way they want and have the successful results either way, if you dont want a whole 5 months worth of Jurassic Park because of one sound file, dont buy it.

[Davies]

The age of crabs?



Uh, actually, its up to them. Dr. Wu and John Hammond customized their creations, the dinosaurs of Jurassic Park, to thier liking. They made featherless raptors that were huge instead of what they shouldve been. Wu wanted to make slow raptors even though they werent what people wanted to see. My point is, they can make the game the way they want and have the successful results either way, if you dont want a whole 5 months worth of Jurassic Park because of one sound file, dont buy it.

Um, have you ever heard the word sarcasm before?! My post was in support of TellTale! Hence my ending statement of "sometimes I'm ashamed to be human".

[RexMaster]

Um, have you ever heard the word sarcasm before?! My post was in support of TellTale! Hence my ending statement of "sometimes I'm ashamed to be human".

Oh, right. Sorry man, I was going to say that all of ur posts are soooo true and it seems out of your style of posting from what ive collected. I'm in 100% support for telltale all the way (as long as the game runs on my PC because some games i try to play have horrible lag from steam), so thats why i got so defensive. I missd the end part so it seemed like u were just another whiny, complaining "fan"! PLEASE FORGIVE ME! :p

[Davies]

...it seemed like u were just another whiny, complaining "fan"! PLEASE FORGIVE ME! :p

Oh, I complain and whine about a great many things but it's usually justified ;)

Anyway, there's nothing to forgive, it's hard to communicate sarcasm through the Internet! Actually, why isn't there a sarcasm tag for when people are composing their posts. After all, Internet users and sarcasm are like peas in a pod (doubly so for British people).

[Sisyphus]

The T-rex roar was and is what defines Jurassic Park.

Effectively, you are correct. :)

Much like Avatar, Jurassic Park is no titan of storytelling or characterization; instead, it was a technical marvel the likes of which we hadn't seen much of before. Whereas other films nudged the CG door open a bit, Jurassic Park blasted it wide open.

The soundscape of Jurassic Park left an impression every bit as indelible as the visuals. As noted, the film is as defined by the work put into the roars and cries of the dinosaurs as the CG.

I take the passion people (clearly) have on the subject as an indication of just how much people were affected by the initial viewing experience. Now there's something a sound design team can be proud of! :D

As for folks stating that they're "on Telltale's side" or whatnot, I'd say that's a given for everyone on this board. Wanting a licensed product to represent the license as faithfully as possible is hardly a knock against the designers; in fact, I'd daresay Telltale themselves want the game to be as faithful as possible. How else to explain how...well, just about everything else is ripped from the film? The T-Rex roar stands out as an aberration because the rest of the trailer's fidelity to the film holds up so well.

[Davies]

Effectively, you are correct. :)

Much like Avatar, Jurassic Park is no titan of storytelling or characterization; instead, it was a technical marvel the likes of which we hadn't seen much of before. Whereas other films nudged the CG door open a bit, Jurassic Park blasted it wide open.

The soundscape of Jurassic Park left an impression every bit as indelible as the visuals. As Davies notes, the film is as defined by the work the sound design team put into the roars and cries of the dinosaurs as the CG.

i take the passion people (clearly) have on the subject as an indication of just how much people were affected by the initial viewing experience. Now there's something a sound design team can be proud of! :D

*sigh*

[ENGAGING SARCASM MODE]

Oh, absolutely.

Another film that this applies to is Taxi Driver. That film is defined by the sound of the water fizzing as Travis stares at his glass of water in a disassociated manor. Without that particular sound effect the film would be unworthy of the title Taxi Driver but should be called 'A Bloke Drives a Taxi Around New York and Stuff' instead.

[SARCASM MODE DISENGAGED]

I am sorry for laying it on so thick but I don't know how much clearer I can be.

Having said that, I agreed with 90% of what you said. Of course sound effects and the soundtrack have as much of an impact as the visuals but for someone to say that one sound effect alone defines the film is pretty ludicrous.

Sure, the sound of the lightsabre in Star Wars is seminal but if a new film in the saga got released and the sound on the sabre was slightly off (to the point where a casual fan wouldn't even notice until it was pointed out to them), would that mean that the film would be a waste and unworthy to carry the Star Wars brand, regardless of the quality of the various other aspects such as visuals, story and characterisation?

[Sisyphus]

*sigh*

[ENGAGING SARCASM MODE]

Oh, absolutely.

Another film that this applies to is Taxi Driver. That film is defined by the sound of the water fizzing as Travis stares at his glass of water in a disassociated manor. Without that particular sound effect the film would be unworthy of the title Taxi Driver but should be called 'A Bloke Drives a Taxi Around New York and Stuff' instead.

[SARCASM MODE DISENGAGED]

I am sorry for laying it on so thick but I don't know how much clearer I can be.

Your sarcasm was quite clear. ;) I just agree with the point.




Sure, the sound of the lightsabre in Star Wars is seminal but if a new film in the saga got released and the sound on the sabre was slightly off (to the point where a casual fan wouldn't even notice until it was pointed out to them), would that mean that the film would be a waste and unworthy to carry the Star Wars brand, regardless of the quality of the various other aspects such as visuals, story and characterisation?

It wouldn't be a waste. If they do end up going with the T-Rex roar they currently have, the game won't be a waste either. However, I can't say I won't be somewhat wistful.

I really prefer the fan trailer where someone put the old roar back in.

[Davies]

Your sarcasm was quite clear. :) However, you were still correct, even if you did not mean to be.

Just giving you credit where credit is due. ;)

Actually, I was well aware as I typed it that the roar is ONE of the defining aspects of Jurassic Park. My beef lies not with you but with those who claim that getting the roar slightly wrong equates to an automatic fail for the game.

You yourself said that sound is as important as the other elements. I never stated otherwise and have always agreed completely. However, some people are getting their knickers in a twist over ONE sound effect, which is just ONE of many that build the sounds of the game and the sounds of the game are also ONE aspect of many, including direction, lighting, overall visual design, editing (for cutscenes), story, characters, dialogue, gameplay mechanics, puzzles and so much more besides. In short I did mean to be correct and am correct!

[ARROGANCE OVERLOAD]

[waroftheworlds01]

But you still have to ask how they got the roar wrong. I mean, they said themselves that they watched the films several times in order to get the look and feel of the game right. Were they watching it on mute? lol

[Icedhope]

Actually, I was well aware as I typed it that the roar is ONE of the defining aspects of Jurassic Park. My beef lies not with you but with those who claim that getting the roar slightly wrong equates to an automatic fail for the game.
[ARROGANCE OVERLOAD]


Well, to me the roar is a major thing. So I will explain it like this, maybe you'll have a better understanding.

If there is a Major consistency, there will likely be many more. While Jurassic Park may not be the best movie in the world, it holds some high nostalgic values to a lot of people, like star wars. Now think of a star wars game, that replaced the light saber sound effects with squeaky toys, or the generic lazer sword sounds, you would be pretty upset if you were a star wars fan, am I right? Also the roar of the Tyranosaur is just as Iconic as the movie itself, so it felt like there was a lackluster in care for it, when the raptors had the right sound effects to them, it was a disappointment. Hell the rex was the star of the first movie, so it felt like he didn't get the care he deserved, while it's not a game breaker to me, it's pretty bothersome. Also when your marketing towards the fans of the movies, and you want to make the trailer near perfect as possible, and it felt we were deny-ed the authenticity.

[waroftheworlds01]

Or like replacing Cobra Commanders classic iconic mask with a weird and stupid looking see through diving mask. You just don't do it. But, unfortunatly, some do.

[Shadowknight1]

Or like replacing Cobra Commanders classic iconic mask with a weird and stupid looking see through diving mask. You just don't do it. But, unfortunatly, some do.

Ohhhh, I see what you did there. ;)

[Sadonicus]

Shut up you whiny stupid fan boys!

Its telltales game, and they can do whatever they want to do with it because its theirs and you have NO right to say anything.

If telltale decides that these new dinosaurs are prehistoric demons that came out of a portal to hell opened by Dr Wu who is secretly an occultist, then so be it. Anyone who dares to say anything is nothing but an immature whiny kid.

(I forgot the sarcasm tags but you get the idea ;))

[Stronzo]

Shut up you whiny stupid fan boys!

Its telltales game, and they can do whatever they want to do with it because its theirs and you have NO right to say anything.

If telltale decides that these new dinosaurs are prehistoric demons that came out of a portal to hell opened by Dr Wu who is secretly an occultist, then so be it. Anyone who dares to say anything is nothing but an immature whiny kid.

(I forgot the sarcasm tags but you get the idea ;))

why are just trying to give some advices..

[Davies]

I don't think either side is willing to change their opinion. Time to move on perhaps...

[EvilDeadFan]

I don't think either side is willing to change their opinion. Time to move on perhaps...

They said they would change it, we won in the end anyway.

[Sisyphus]

They said they would change it, we won in the end anyway.

Out of curiosity, do we have a link to that for verification purposes? I don't remember if one was ever provided.

[shamuboy]

Out of curiosity, do we have a link to that for verification purposes? I don't remember if one was ever provided.

Don't have a link but check at Jurassic Park Legacy Forums!

[Sisyphus]

Don't have a link but check at Jurassic Park Legacy Forums!

Thanks. :)

[EvilDeadFan]

Out of curiosity, do we have a link to that for verification purposes? I don't remember if one was ever provided.

Check one of these threads, someone has a link to another thread in JPLegacy where they said just that! :)

[ClownPrinceJoker]

Uniformed simplteon, haha. Do you have a clue? At all?

I've been around entertainment my entire life. Do you know that video games/ movies have been using the same sounds for DECADES? Do you have even the tiniest clue!?



You don't have the tiniest clue. The T-Rex sounds from Jurassic Park were created FOR Jurassic Park. Watch the Behind-the-Scenes/Making of. They sent sound techs all around the world to get material to create the roars and calls. THAT is why they are iconic to Jurassic Park and why you've only proven how ignorant you are.

Clearly your life-long involvement in entertainment didn't pay off for that. But guess what, you're not special there. Anyone in the world can say they've "been around entertainment their entire life" so long as: They had a TV in their home, a computer at some point, a video game system, went to the movie theater, went to an arcade.

[EvilDeadFan]

You don't have the tiniest clue. The T-Rex sounds from Jurassic Park were created FOR Jurassic Park. Watch the Behind-the-Scenes/Making of. They sent sound techs all around the world to get material to create the roars and calls. THAT is why they are iconic to Jurassic Park and why you've only proven how ignorant you are.

Clearly your life-long involvement in entertainment didn't pay off for that. But guess what, you're not special there. Anyone in the world can say they've "been around entertainment their entire life" so long as: They had a TV in their home, a computer at some point, a video game system, went to the movie theater, went to an arcade.

Doodo already stopped this argument please don't bring in back up again and cause a calamity.

[Irishmile]

they should get that dude from the police academy movies... I bet he would do the roar.

[EvilDeadFan]

they should get that dude from the police academy movies... I bet he would do the roar.

lol he was also excellent in spaceballs, the sweeps, the creeps, and the bleeps!

[Davies]

lol he was also excellent in spaceballs, the sweeps, the creeps, and the bleeps!

I love Spaceballs! "We're combing the desert", "May the Schwartz be with you" and the whole Alien parody with John Hurt. Classic.

[doodo!]

dat roar sounds like its from some 90s video of some sort...so dated. I bet the OP is like 20 something years old. Probably about Irishmiles age, no offense, not that you're old.

[Irishmile]

LOL... sadly I am no longer in my 20's I turned 30 last October.... I plan on picking out a nice walking stick soon so I can shake it at kids when they walk onto my lawn.

[RexMaster]

LOL... sadly I am no longer in my 20's I turned 30 last October.... I plan on picking out a nice walking stick soon so I can shake it at kids when they walk onto my lawn.

Get a bamboo cane with amber on the top, its very in style these days!!! ;)

[Irishmile]

I'm awesome at being old.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1883/irishmile.jpg

[Icedhope]

I'm awesome at being old.

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1883/irishmile.jpg

Your also really awesome at Photoshop.

[Irishmile]

Charlie Sheen is even more awesome at being old.

[doodo!]

Irishmile is a genius, he just doesn't know it and doesn't always act like it :D...

He's one of the coolest people here, just ask all the other cool people here...

[RexMaster]

Irishmile is a genius, he just doesn't know it and doesn't always act like it :D...

He's one of the coolest people here, just ask all the other cool people here...

Like me!!! And yes, it is true, and I know that... well.. because im cool ofcourse!

[leon101]

People keep saying that it's the same type of roar that games like Dino Crisis used, but I don't see that. The roar sounds better in Dino Crisis, in fact...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp-59rTKNi4

Skip ahead brother (to the part with the Rex).

[Kelloggs86]

People keep saying that it's the same type of roar that games like Dino Crisis used, but I don't see that. The roar sounds better in Dino Crisis, in fact...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp-59rTKNi4

Skip ahead brother (to the part with the Rex).

I listened to it and I could hear it was the same roar.

[waroftheworlds01]

Yeah, it's the dino crisis roar no doubt.

But they fixed it :)

[Martin McFly]

In the updated trailer, you can hear the proper T-Rex roar. :)

[veki]

In the updated trailer, you can hear the proper T-Rex roar. :)
Yes, and it sound like it should. Awesome! :D

[Icedhope]

With that said, the issue has been adressed and fixed so, I'm going to closing this thread.

[Turanoceratops]

hi,

when i watched the first trailer of the JP game i was very happy :) and i can't wait to play it. But i'm wondering why doesn't Telltale use the original T-Rex roar from the films? The roar reminds me of the T-Rex from the Dino Crisis games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp-59rTKNi4&feature=related

watch here from 02:49 on...