Name just ONE true worth while achievement goal of the human race

[doodo!]

Name one truly worth while thing we done as a race. Name ONE, then I'll believe that we truly comprehend anything.
Something that would go beyond argument, something that's certain? One thing, name just one thing we've done as a whole that actually benefits the rest of the universe or ties into some sort of worth while purpose, or shows a true comprehension, understanding of true value...

To me, it's all Earth bound nonsense, and it's all debate-able, and it all leads to violence, and greed, lust, personal profits, delusions, or rhetoric to prescribe value where we underachieve any true worth while goals as a race...

[coolsome]

We invented the internet which is almost another Universe inside our little plannet.

[Secret Fawful]

Humans landed on the moon, thus proving human space travel and exploration can be done.

Also, we're slowly but surely killing those damn trees. I hate those frakking things.

[coolsome]

Humans landed on the moon, thus proving human space travel and exploration can be done.

Also, we're slowly but surely killing those damn trees. I hate those frakking things.

Sorry but Sam and Max brought them all back.

[Rather Dashing]

Your question is rigged. Name something truly worthwhile, but nothing is worthwhile because it's only worthwhile by our own earth-bound standards.

Well, who else's standards are we meant to taken into account?

As for the Universe, don't fuss over the Universe. In the great enormity of it all, the Universe cares as much for us as we care about an individual atom that makes up less than a billionth of an inch of skin. Thinking humanity matters on a universal scale is to be completely unaware of how big "The Universe" actually gets.

[Friar]

Humans landed on the moon, thus proving human space travel and exploration can be done.

Also, we're slowly but surely killing those damn trees. I hate those frakking things.Actually, I would say getting into space in the first place is more important. And was done by russian dogs.

[Rather Dashing]

Actually, I would say getting into space in the first place is more important. And was done by russian dogs.
No see, if we hadn't broadcast the moon landing, we'd still be ruled by The Silence.

[Johro]

...In millions of years, we will have changed nothing for the better. We will have been nothing more than parasites that once populated the universe.

[Silverwolfpet]

Love.

some people are actually capable of it...

[ShaggE]

Against all odds, Duke Nukem Forever AND a great (post MK3) Mortal Kombat game exist... IN THE SAME YEAR.

Soak that in. Humanity has done the impossibru.

[Falanca]

Falanca.

[Johro]

Our flaw is the same as any living organism....self preservation. We will negate anything else, break every rule, throw morality out the window and do the most horrific things imaginable...just to survive.

[Secret Fawful]

If by self-preservation you mean me living in a cave with one thousand gorgeous women with big titties, then yes, I'm afraid I'd have to make the supreme sacrifice.

[Johro]

If you killed your neighbors to obtain them and then ate their bodies to live, yes, that would fall under that category.

[DAISHI]

Portal 2.

[Secret Fawful]

If you killed your neighbors to obtain them and then ate their bodies to live, yes, that would fall under that category.

What are you talking about? My neighbors are one thousand single gorgeous women with big titties. I'd just survive on their milk and...you know this is just getting a little too weird.

[Icedhope]

Pirates

[divisionten]

No see, if we hadn't broadcast the moon landing, we'd still be ruled by The Silence.

So, how many have you unknowingly taken out today?

[DAISHI]

http://hardydev.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/title-image-3.png

ADVENTURE GAMES!

[Rather Dashing]

So, how many have you unknowingly taken out today?
It's hard to say. Not being a Companion or other secondary character that happens to have been in the TARDIS at the time, I don't have access to Doctor-level technology. Granted, I don't really NEED to implant a blinking light into my hand in order to get more or less the same effect(really, I just need a voice recorder that has a light that turns on when you record something), but I haven't crafted that set-up.

It's also, I think, unlikely that there are that many on Earth anymore. We've all been hunting them since the 60s, I think they've probably moved on at this point

[doodinthemood]

The Netherlands.

[ShaggE]

The Netherlands.

Hey, this is a family forum!

[caeska]

Well we invented those little things at the end of our shoe laces.

[jeeno0142]

The Human race has survived for an awfully long time now. That's an acheivement.

[doodinthemood]

The Human race has survived for an awfully long time now. That's an acheivement.
Less than most other races, isn't it?

[jeeno0142]

Less than most other races, isn't it?

Yeah. But it's still been a while now. A few million years of existence is a fairly good record and we're still going strong. Unlike those dinosaurs.

[Jon NA]

Ahmadinejad.

Disclaimer: That was a joke. Sheesh, I thought you guys would get it

[coolsome]

Entertainment like TV, Books Games, Music ect. No other creature in the known or unknown universe has anything close to our forms of entertainment.

[DAISHI]

I dunno, dolphins like to murder seals when they get bored.

[coolsome]

I dunno, dolphins like to murder seals when they get bored.

.......that is pretty cool.

[doodinthemood]

There are transvestite bonobos.

[coolguy721]

Falanca.

actually thats probably the reason most aliens don't want to visit earth

[coolsome]

actually thats probably the reason most aliens don't want to visit earth

Which means no invasions!

[Scnew]

Pickles. We invented pickles.

Really though, what kind of answer were you looking for here? As a species bound to one planet, I hardly see what you can expect us to accomplish that would "benefit the whole universe."

Can you give an example of something that would benefit the whole universe? Proving the existence of God? Curing all disease forever? Inventing the hyperdrive?

[JedExodus]

We achieved the awareness to ponder such questions

Why so down on humanity doodo?

[Alcoremortis]

Tea. Why? Tea saved civilization. The Renaissance would have never happened if people had been drunk all the time and tea provided a good way to drink water without dying of some horrible disease (since the water was boiled first). Also, it has caffeine which helps with productivity.

So yeah, tea.

[lombre]

Some people out there have caught every single Pokemon. If that doesn't benefit the universe, nothing does.

[coolsome]

Some people out there have caught every single Pokemon. If that doesn't benefit the universe, nothing does.

They should set them all free! YOUR FREEEE!!!!!!

[Martin McFly]

Well we invented those little things at the end of our shoe laces.

Aglets?

[Falanca]

actually thats probably the reason most aliens don't want to visit earth

Hey, if you want to see aliens so badly, noone's keeping you from locking yourself in a shuttle.

[lombre]

They should set them all free! YOUR FREEEE!!!!!!

And undo everything we've ever accomplished? Are you MAD?

[Falanca]

And undo everything we've ever accomplished? Are you MAD?

Aren't we having a long-running match of Jenga on the entirety of Earth's terrestrial surface anyway?

[lombre]

Aren't we having a long-running match of Jenga on the entirety of Earth's terrestrial surface anyway?

This is different. This is releasing all six-hundred and how ever the hell many Pokemon there are! The problems of "Earth" are nothing compared to this!

[coolguy721]

the internet is amazing. Lets see the aliens beat that!

[Irishmile]

Art no other animal truly creates just for the sake of it.

But this question is flawed because we are too complex to say we are good or bad as a species. We are both horrible and wonderful.. and all that falls in between.. and that could be just in the span of an hour on an individual basis.

[Secret Fawful]

the internet is amazing. Lets see the aliens beat that!

Oh, they've probably already made the universe and it's inner information their internet. ((I've been reading too much Arthur C Clarke))

[Falanca]

Art no other animal truly creates just for the sake of it.

But this question is flawed because we are too complex to say we are good or bad as a species. We are both horrible and wonderful.. and all that falls in between.. and that could be just in the span of an hour on an individual basis.

Art is probably present on animals, they're just too inferior (or its complexity branches out to a completely different direction from human understanding) for us to get. Humanity's not as complex, we're trying to survive but also we invented art, which is improved proportionally with the human technology which grows bigger by the time humanity's needs evolve anyway. We're still trying to survive as a colony of species, it's just that we're currently the dominant creatures of earth that has all the resources to do basically what we want. And "want" is also a "need", just more complex than plain survival but the roots are the same.

What I believe is we do art not because of the need to prove our superiority to the other creatures, but we do it to prove our DIFFERENCE from other creatures and basically our whole surroundings. I believe this trait is also shared even by procariotic beings.

[DAISHI]

I'd have to know animals were capable of abstract thought before I could believe they produced art.

[doodinthemood]

actually thats probably the reason most aliens don't want to visit earth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axj1CVG6udE

If you were an alien, the first thing you would ever discover from our civilisation is basically the above video.

The "THIS IS THE MOST CONFUSING MESS EVER" thing was never taken into account.

[Rather Dashing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axj1CVG6udE

If you were an alien, the first thing you would ever discover from our civilisation is basically the above video.

The "THIS IS THE MOST CONFUSING MESS EVER" thing was never taken into account.
Unlikely. The Golden Record is floating into the vastness of space in no real particular direction. This thing is going to spend tens of thousands of years before it's even remotely near anything that something else is even possible to live on, and the most likely scenario is that the Voyager will be slowly destroyed over the course of its journey. This "message in a bottle" is unlikely to ever be read by anyone. If it is, the likelihood that mankind is even still around seems fairly low to me.

[doodinthemood]

Unlikely. The Golden Record is floating into the vastness of space in no real particular direction. This thing is going to spend tens of thousands of years before it's even remotely near anything that something else is even possible to live on, and the most likely scenario is that the Voyager will be slowly destroyed over the course of its journey. This "message in a bottle" is unlikely to ever be read by anyone. If it is, the likelihood that mankind is even still around seems fairly low to me.

Yup, but then neither is anything else of ours. Even if the golden record lands nowhere, aliens may attack it.

[Rather Dashing]

You've watched too much Star Trek.

I'm telling you, the most probable outcome for the Voyager is that it will float around and get destroyed by the natural forces around it. The idea that it will be the first thing other races see of humanity seems silly because it is unlikely that anything will ever come in contact with it.

[doodinthemood]

I've watched no star trek. I know that's the most probable outcome for the voyager. It was just a light hearted comment about what would happen if aliens did come across our attempt at contact.

[Rather Dashing]

There's a Star Trek episode in which the Klingons see and immediately blow up the Voyager. Target practice.

And the Golden Record isn't our only attempt at communication, it is merely our first. It is hardly the most effective, and if any message is received and played by extraterrestrials, my bets are not on the Voyager's Golden Disc.

[RetroVortex]

Arcade machines.

Theeeeeerrreee ssssoooooo beeeaaauuuutttiiiiifffuuuuullll....

[Rather Dashing]

Where so beautiful?

[coolsome]

They are totaly awesome. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg8NzRCNwUo&feature=related)

[doodo!]

We've amounted to so much, yet also so very little. Look at the bigger picture. We only make discoveries based on funding, businesses, profits. How much more could we learn in more open/ diverse fields of research? At the top of the food chain, human life has no purpose, it survives.

No war of the worlds, yet we blow each other up, war against neighboring countries. We're violent, destructive. You propose that self perseverance is a purpose, yet we are all at the same level, all human beings and we can't get along. We can't work together. Most things are structured on business, money, profit. We go on living, extend our time on earth, without even truly valuing our lives with which with in discoveries can be made. We limit our selves to research labs a small small staff or people in comparision. Small in who could of been interested, who could of been helpful in the next great big discoveries of the world.

Before, also part of the picture, some of the most brilliant minds, denied education, major break throughs driven right around. Then we ask ourselves in a almost infinite sea of variables how could the human being best discover these things, cures, inventions, discoveries, we don't know the best process, all we know is what we've been doing... But we choose the path ultimately that limits us, that delays our time out, slowly creeps us along into these discoveries.

The planet has billions of people on it...Yet, we're all starving, the richer getting richer, the poorer getting poorer, billions of dollars into debt. Research strangled at it's very neck...

Children all around the world facing these diseases without any cure, and the majority of this knowledge going to waste where it can not be afforded or understood by billions of other people on earth who with some education might advance this "knowledge" light years ahead of its time, who if could afford it, could survive...

Or are we really just this hopeless? There's billions of us here on Earth with the potential to change the world.

We're the top of the food chain and yet we struggle just to survive against our selves!

[doodinthemood]

Oh right, with stuff about starvation and poverty, were you meaning true achievements as in big evils that have been completely overcome?

In which case, we got rid of smallpox.

[doodo!]

We don't truly comprehend anything, not a single absolute thing. When we love, we don't know how to live to our fullest. Though we believe that we do, we don't fully comprehend what it would mean to love, because we're flawed. When we think that we've achieved anything, all we've achieved is a goal that we can label, and measure, test based on what limited observations we've learned to make, limited knowledge we've learned to observe, we don't understand how it ties into everything else, we don't assess all the variables, we can't read into the future and see how our actions, goals, wills, truly effect anything. We have a total lack of perception into anything we do.

We don't comprehend the best processes, the right way to do ANYTHING. We don't know how to love best, truly, we love yet we still rage wars, support the death of 1000s, abuse little animals, nothing we do is pure in infinite in the value of the universe, everything we label is falsehood!

If not falsehood truly incomplete! We have not achieved anything, all we've done is discovered things within our own limitations that we will never escape, expand because we have structured our selves within our own limitations, ignorance, and naivety ,delusions!

How can we prescribe true value and merit to any discoveries when we don't truly know how they are best suited beyond a human comprehension? We are a weak, meager race, humble before science or a God. We're a young race of intelligence and we know NOTHING. We base all value on measurements we are able to make.

Tell me one worth while thing we've truly done! How can any one determine whether or not? We prescribe the value of our own achievements based on what we're able to discover within our own limitations which as a race we ultimately have not over come. We have had the same flaws, imperfections for 1000s of years!

Even our facts are simple measurements without any truly designated purpose. Math, science, to what end? What have we achieved? What is possible, what have we observed, learned, how have we applied it. What are we missing what have we missed? What were we able to measure, comprehend? What don't we know that could help us measure more properties, what don't we know that could help us make more discoveries, new measurements?

[DAISHI]

Just as an aside, even if the human race had done nothing worthwhile (which is in the eye of the beholder)... so what? We exist. That is all.

[GozzoMan]

Name one truly worth while thing we done as a race.

I'm surprised to be the first to bring this up: I'd like to stress that (taking your proposition in good faith, i.e. assuming you're not referring only to your own ethnicity), humanity (i.e. homo sapiens sapiens) is a species, not a race. "Human race" really shivers me timbers, bringing memories of the worst of our "achievements"...

Your question is rigged. Name something truly worthwhile, but nothing is worthwhile because it's only worthwhile by our own earth-bound standards.

This.

Love.

some people are actually capable of it...

And this.

Portal 2.

And this.

Pirates

And this.


ADVENTURE GAMES!

Aaaaand this.

Also, hugs and reciprocal care are not a bit bad either.

Also, more in general, all of the efforts to counter and balance our own aforementioned worst achievements... Remember all the people involved against suffering and hunger and whatnot, all the ones who mends and repair what others wound and broke...

They're all more "work in progress" than "stable results", but I don't think they are worthless.

[Friar]

The internet. There's something for everyone on there. Don't like the content? Moan about it to complete strangers on another part of it!