Monkey island 5

[Eater]

I can't help to notice everyone speaks here about getting a MI5. Isn't a better place to do that over at doublefine?

[Haggis]

Why? Double Fine don't make point-and-click adventure games, and it's hard to imagine Monkey Island as being anything else. Regardless, I don't think there's currently any company to expect Monkey Island 5 from, but one can always dream...

[Eater]

Ah. I had always thought that tim schafer was the big wig behind MI, but it seems it is actually owned by Ron Gilbert. Both of which worked with Dave Grossman who I also find works here. So perhaps you are right this is the place to go.

[jp-30]

There already are 5 Monkey Island games (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=176935).

[doom saber]

Ah. I had always thought that tim schafer was the big wig behind MI, but it seems it is actually owned by Ron Gilbert. Both of which worked with Dave Grossman who I also find works here. So perhaps you are right this is the place to go.

True, Dave Grossman is co creater, though not many knew about this. I remember when I went to the focus group to play S&M ep 4 and mentioned that he help create the first monkey island. He was quite suprised.

[LuigiHann]

True, Dave Grossman is co creater, though not many knew about this. I remember when I went to the focus group to play S&M ep 4 and mentioned that he help create the first monkey island. He was quite suprised.

He didn't know either? :D

What does Ron Gilbert do nowadays? I check his website out from time to time, and I can't really tell. :rolleyes:

[Mel]

He didn't know either? :D

I think he was just being Dave. He's the most unassuming person I've ever met. :)

[Eater]

from what I heard Ron started a game company with someone (his girlfriend? not sure can't remember) and wasn't heard from much since. but i also can't remember where I heard it.

[Jake]

I think Ron Gilbert is currently working on a design for a new RPG/adventure hybrid type thing that he's taking around pitching to publishers. He's also, I think, doing game design and consultation work as a contractor on the side.

[fajerkaos]

Yes, he started Humongous Entertainment, but after while he left that one as well.
Nowa'days he seems to mostly be playing WoW, and occasionally writing in his blog (http://grumpygamer.com/).
He have also begun to make a Rpg-Adventure hybrid, but havn't had any luck getting it published, in god know how long.

Ops, damn you Jake! :D

[doom saber]

He didn't know either? :D



He was just suprised that someone knew he worked on that game. I guess most fan thinks that Ron Gilbert created the game single handedly.

I wonder when is the next focus group for Sam and MAx since I missed the last two because of other things.

[Mystinsun]

An italian team is making MI5 in MI3 style: "the darkness of Monkey Island".
Here is the link for some images: http://miforum.forumcommunity.net/?t=3421388&st=0

[Junaid]

I have to admit, those images look pretty good!

[Haggis]

Wow, yeah, that looks a lot better than the average fan game. Mystinsun, do you have any idea if the project is still being worked on, and if yes, when it's estimated to be released (or at least a demo)?

[Mystinsun]

Wow, yeah, that looks a lot better than the average fan game. Mystinsun, do you have any idea if the project is still being worked on, and if yes, when it's estimated to be released (or at least a demo)?

Oh yes, those guys are incredibles. They said that the game will be released in 2008, in the second quarter. It will be translated in english at the end of the work. All for free! :D

[Haggis]

Thanks! I'll be looking forward to it. :)

[jannar85]

An italian team is making MI5 in MI3 style: "the darkness of Monkey Island".
Here is the link for some images: http://miforum.forumcommunity.net/?t=3421388&st=0
Remind me, has there even been a MI5? I first thought about MI4.. being made into CMI style :P

[Mystinsun]

No, Lucasarts has abandoned the MI5 project like Sam&Max Freelance Police and Full Throttle: Hell on Wheels.
And for that, the italian team is making the new sequel. I admire them.:p

[Mel]

Was there ever an MI5 project to abandon? (just curious)

[Mystinsun]

Was there ever an MI5 project to abandon? (just curious)

Nope, indeed. But, if you remember, in the last adventure, the Voodoo Lady hints that she has an unbreakable five-game contract with LucasArts.
But this is never happened.:eek:

[TribeHasSpoken]

Just because Lucasarts is not making their own Monkey Island 5, this does not make the italian project official or even legal. Lucasarts still owns the franchise. Sam & Max was a special case in which Lucasarts never owned them, but was merely licensing them from Steve Purcell.

[CanineShamus]

Secret, LeChuck's Revenge, Curse, and Escape and that makes 4. Nope guys, I dont think MI5 was ever in the making or ever will be for that matter :/

[doom saber]

True, but I think they are referring to the game dialogue that mentions a fifth one. However, that doesn't mean it will ever be made.

As for mi5 ever been talked about,? It has, but just because Ron Gilbert wants to finish the game and reveal the secret.

[CanineShamus]

I've definitely lingered on the hinting-to-sequel dialogue especially the hints in MI3 (which was a while back :/), but even so, I found myself kind of dissapointed with Monkey 4. MI4 seemed to be a bit too commercial for my taste, especially when Monkeys 1-3 were so chalk full of just plain old non-lawyer-joke humor. I'd totally want to see MI5 happen, just as long as the games that hinted too it are similiar in style.

And, of course, there is the matter that LucasArts has had its share of picking a good idea and dropping it...

[Jake]

From around 1992-1994 my brother claimed very enthusiastically that he saw Monkey Island 3 in our local PC store one time. He even knew the name of it, and could describe the box. Sometime around when Full Throttle came out he finally realized/decided that he'd been dreaming, and hadn't thought about it all that hard or questioned it ever. Granted he was 9-10 at the time.

[Badwolf]

I'm sure I read something the other day saying one of the LA PR staff hinted at an MI5. It might have been on Teletext, I'm not sure.

[Stefan]

A few months ago I read something about Lucas Arts bringing back both Monkey Island and Grim Fandango earliest 2015, but I don't remember where. :/

[Haggis]

http://www.mixnmojo.com/php/news/showfile.php?id=2064&category=lucasartsnews

[CanineShamus]

Personally I used to say 'Just make a movie out of it and that'll be the icing on the cake', but then Pirates came out and I knew LucasArts/Film wouldn't be doing any milking the quadrilogy that way. For now I'm just going to let things flow, good things tend to come in time.

[Udvarnoky]

Okay, I feel the need to comment on the 2015 thing, because it seems like people have taken that way too literally and I don't think it's right that adventure fans should get their hopes up over what I feel is a distorted version of Jim Ward's quote, or is at least lacking in context.

I'm going to transcribe the relevant part of that interview not to rain on anybody's parade, but to remind everyone of what was actually said so that you don't based your hopes on what Monkey Island fans since this interview have said, namely that Jim Ward made some kind of promise. Here's the exact exchange, and frankly I don't see any positives (regarding reviving old adventure IP, anyway) that can be drawn from it:

G4: I've got to ask you about humor in games, because you guys were sort of on the leading edge of that with the Monkey Island series and Day of the Tentacle..I grew up and loved those LucasArts adventure games. Are you guys ever going to bring back those series again?
Jim Ward: Yeah Jeff you know, we could do that, but you know what? I challenge our guys with another thing, and that's, you know what, we had the glory days back then, but I said you know we will bring those games back in 2015, if we can develop new IPs, because I reminded them, "Remember Dukes of Hazzard and Bewitched last summer for movies?" Didn't do too well did they? We've gotta come up with new ideas and fresh ideas and once we do that, fine, then we can bring back some of the old ideas, because you know what, we can come up with better ideas than those games and we will.

2015 as a year sounds to me like something he said just off the top of his head, and doesn't mean anything. I think he just said that just so he wouldn't have to tell the guy "No, we're abandoning those old IP," even though that's clearly what he's saying. And heck, even if he really meant that he intends to bring those game back in 2015 (which he didn't), what makes you think Jim Ward is even going to be around then? What LucasArts president ever had a ten year tenure?

(Try to resist the obvious targets for mockery, specifically that LucasArts is coming out with "fresh, better" ideas these days.)

[CanineShamus]

And there we have it. Forgive my mockery, but LucasArts has milked enough from the StarWars series in every possible genre, enough to fight like a dairy farmer, and its worked for them. Why should they stop here? Plenty of more planets to make up, new droids to invent, and certainly more Schools for the would-be Jedi Knights out there. Face it, the movies are over, but I dont think we'll be seeing any MI games; not until such expectations of Star Wars games are fulfilled.

Truly entertainment business is king among all other occupational fields. I think after the very unsuccesfull StarWars MMO (SW Galaxies which seemed like a good idea, at first). Just wait and see, its a sound bet that there will be a long LucasArts led strive to make a better MMO, and probably several Jedi-Style Wii advantage taking fighter games. Though the wishfull thinking in previous posts on these threads do make me feel better, it doesnt seem to make sense.

[OnCallDoc]

Someone should buy the MI rights from Lucasarts. Even the Full Throttle rights. Not so much Grim Fandango unless its a prequel cause the ending was a classic.
How much can it cost? I smell another Telltale forum users fund. Hehehe. Now if only every user here was a millionaire.

[Armakuni]

It can unfortunately cots a lot.

[jmm]

Based on their big-wig LA skew logic, they'll probably hold the rights because eventually they might make a game out of that even if they are unwilling to spend money on it right now. Perhaps in 2115.

[CanineShamus]

This is it fellas, I shall cryogenetically freeze myself until the year 2115, where there shall hopefully be time machines for the return trip....

[xChri5x]

http://x62.xanga.com/c14d7764d2133123168524/b88975080.jpg

[jmm]

Rofl

[fhqwhgads]

The graphics sux! :P

[doom saber]

Seems like there might be an official Monkey Island game comming out afterall. According to World of Monkey Island http://www.worldofmi.com, there are rumors of Monkey Island 5. Appearantly, the guys who worked on the music compositions of the classic MI games claims that the game is comming out.

To add fuel to this rumor, Steve Purcell sent images to the world of monkey island site, saying "in no way connected to any existing or canceled piratey project.."

One of the images closely resemble La Chuck.

Luckily l saved the pic and put it on my photobucket before the wmi sever went down.

Here is the pirate captain pic.from the world of monkey island site:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/doomsaber/Cap.jpg

I didn't save the other two pics.

[AdamG]

Hmmmmm... Well they better keep it faithful to the old school Monkey Island games! As in Monkey Island 1-3.

[Derwin]

Can't connect to MixNMojo nor worldofmi.... why?!?!?!?

[tabacco]

They're on the same server.

[Derwin]

And apparently scummbar, am I correct? Thanks for the info tabacco, I was starting to guess as much, but figured it was just another one of my conspiracy theories...

[doom saber]

Luckily l saved the la chuck pic before the sever went down. I will host it on my photobucket account and will post it on my previos comment

[Haggis]

No no no, those pics are not totally unrelated to a Monkey Island 5 game, they are totally unrelated to a Monkey Island movie that never got to the point of release.

[thom_h]

LucasArts need to hire a new president that likes Monkey Island

[Badwolf]

LucasArts need to hire a new president that likes Monkey Island

Max for President! :P

LucasArts seems to be going weird lately. They're even demoting Star Wars Battlefront 3 to a PSP exclusive (I have nothing against the PSP, I think it's a great console (especially for Scumm emulation), but it seems a strange move for such a popular game).

Hopefully they're trying to throw their attention off Star Wars and make some interesting licenses again.

[Udvarnoky]

Yes to clarify the above concept art has nothing to do with Monkey Island 5, which does not exist, but rather an animated Monkey Island movie that was going to exist like ten years ago but was cancelled in the pre-production stages. (More info here. (http://mixnmojo.com/php/news/showfile.php?id=1663&category=lucasfilmnews)) Steve Purcell was apparently a concept artist on the project and jokingly said what he did when he sent over the art for legal reasons.

The latest MI5 rumor was reported at the same time as the new concept art for the movie which may have caused some confusion, but MI5 rumors have been a dime a dozen since Escape from Monkey Island came out. There's no reason to think this one is any more true.

[AdamG]

Ah, come on, we need to keep our hopes up. : / It's all we have... LucasArts is so stupid, why aren't they making a MI5? It's like... The Granddaddy of adventure games, right along with Zork. As long as they do it right like TellTale did with Sam & Max, very few people will have much to complain about. It must be the executives, they never have any idea what they're doing... Duhhhh MI4 didn't do spectacular, so that means MI5 is too risky. Sheesh. : /

[Jokieman]

Lucas Arts has abandoned the adventure genre for good. It is also in the process of abandoning the PC platform. (None of the games released by Lucas Arts in 2007 are being released on the PC.)

They're too busy trying to pioneer new "smart games" with all new technology. They will never go back to the adventure genre. And any game based on the old adventure games won't be an adventure. it will be an action game. Much like the last couple of Indiana Jones games. (which royally sucked).

Gaming companies are moving away from PC's because of Piracy, and they've moved away from adventure games because there's no/little profit in it.

Dream all you want. The best adventure games ever produced are dead forever.

Honestly, IMO Monkey Island needs to be made into an MMORPG. I think that is the only way it could really survive in today's world and make enough of a profit for the developers to consider doing it. And actually I'd rather see them tie in all of their classic A/G titles into a single "Lucas Arts" MMORPG world. Mixing and Matching for endless possibilities. But this won't happen either.

The Only thing Lucas Arts ever spends money on these days is Star Wars Games and the occasional Indiana Jones game.

[Udvarnoky]

Duhhhh MI4 didn't do spectacular, so that means MI5 is too risky. Sheesh. : /

Actually, I think MI4 performed decently. Better than the third I believe. (Someone back me up on this.)

I think maybe the PS2 version was a failure, but the PC version at least did what it set out to do, sales-wise.

[jp-30]

Lucas Arts has abandoned the adventure genre for good. It is also in the process of abandoning the PC platform. (None of the games released by Lucas Arts in 2007 are being released on the PC.)


I've been hearing this "lucasarts abadoning PCs" schtick since before Phantom Menace came out.

You know why there are no PC games coming out from LucasArts in 2007? Because there are NO GAMES coming out from LucasArts in 2007*.

*Except the new LEGO Star Wars Complete Saga, which is a bundle of the existing 2 games (available on PC) with a few extras chucked in.

[Jake]

To add fuel to this rumor,

More likely, if they're from anything concrete at all (and not just old Monkey Island-related things Purcell had laying around), those pieceswere made for the long-ago-abandonned Monkey Island animated film that ILM Feature Animation was considering years ago. Purcell was working there at the time, and apparently did some artwork for it. One of the other artists on the film's pre-production had a blog and wrote a little about it (can't remember where that was, though).

[jp-30]

This what you're thinking of?

http://www.stacchi.com

[Jake]

http://www.stacchi.com/folio/ , second row from the bottom, to be precise, and yes.

[OnCallDoc]

I wish they went through with the movie. It would work real well now following Pirates of the Caribbean. The success of Shrek-type movies proves it can work. Using the original voice actors would save a lot of money too. For the teaser: you'd have these quick flash of an epic sea battle and then build up to the sudden appearance of Murray sideways on the floor shouting blind threats at Guybrush. Man... they need to make this.
Sadly... Hollywood has been stupid lately. Look at the Get Smart "remake". They butchered the original idea by throwing away everything that originally made it funny. I also don't see them working in the shoe phone in a world with cell phones.

[Maratanos]

An italian team is making MI5 in MI3 style: "the darkness of Monkey Island".
Here is the link for some images: http://miforum.forumcommunity.net/?t=3421388&st=0

Don't get your hopes up.

The only way that could POSSIBLY not get C&D'ed is if LucasArts never hears about it.

[Badwolf]

Don't get your hopes up.

The only way that could POSSIBLY not get C&D'ed is if LucasArts never hears about it.
I think they're getting a bit cocky about it too, which won't help their cause if LA catches on.
Unless the translator I'm using is even worse than I think it is, it sounds as though they're trying to pass the game off as a true sequel, rather than a fan game ("It will be a lot more than a simple fangame… It will be a new true Monkey Island")

I appreciate their efforts though, very good art. I'm not too keen on their remaking Guybrush II in Guybrush III style though, just seems a bit iffy for some reason. And the smoking skull on the map screen doesn't seem right either. But they got the art style spot on, I'll give them that.
And I'm glad they're going for a MI2 style LeChuck too. He was probably the best because he seemed so relentlessly evil compared the other ones.

It should be interesting to see what the game's like when / if they finish though.

[Udvarnoky]

I wish they went through with the movie. It would work real well now following Pirates of the Caribbean.

I don't know. I think if a Monkey Island movie were to come out now it would be immediately dismissed as a ripoff. The similarities between the two may be coincidental, but they're downright uncanny in places. There really doesn't need to be another pirate movie now.

[LuigiHann]

Know what would be hilarious? (I may have said this one before)

If Disney hired Ron Gilbert to make an adventure game based on the PotC movies.

[SupahFly]

Telltale, pls buy the rights for MI. :(. I'm so sad over the years that there's no hope for a new part of the game. :(. I'm crying loud for a MI5!!! Whyyyyyyyyyy! :(((

[AdamG]

Yeah, you folks should really think about it! Then again, it's a big undertaking... Probably up to an even higher standard then Sam & Max.

[Badwolf]

Teletext this morning just mentioned about those Purcell pictures.

No doubt encouraged by the continued success of Cap'n Jack and co, it seems LucasArts might finally be thinking of making a new Monkey Island game.

Although we wouldn't normally report on idle internet rumours, some new artwork from Steve Purcell has appeared which is "in no way connected to any existing or cancelled piratey project...".

Now we just need official confirmation (and a Wii lightsabre game).

They're really getting slow with the news.

[Udvarnoky]

The only thing that all of this will result in is Purcell getting in legal trouble.

[Jake]

Yeah, you folks should really think about it!

We should really think about making a Monkey Island game? Who on this earth hasn't thought about making a Monkey Island game? :P

[Badwolf]

The only thing that all of this will result in is Purcell getting in legal trouble.
I can't really see what LA could do. He's not mentioned any names of any companies or franchises.
It's just everyone else filling in the gaps.

[AdamG]

We should really think about making a Monkey Island game? Who on this earth hasn't thought about making a Monkey Island game? :P

Well, alright... Then make a Monkey Island game! :p

[Badwolf]

Being the nice guy I am, I went and saved TTG the effort and made the new true sequel to Monkey Island myself in Flash.

http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mi5qa6.swf&width=320

I'm sure you'll all agree the humour and graphics live up to anything CoMI could offer.

[Maratanos]

Awwwwwww........ But that's just a remake of Monkey Island 1!

:(

[doom saber]

l think some ppl are thinkin it is a new game(like me before,) is because of Purcall saying it is no way it is connected to existing project and cancelled priated thing. He can either being sarcastic of givin us wink about an upcomming game.

[Kefky]

I'm a big MI fan, and even enjoyed EMI quite a bit(please don't hit me!!!! ;)), but right now, I'm interested in seeing some new ideas and properties used for graphic adventures, not old school stuff.

The only way I might be interested in seeing another MI is if Schafer and Grossman got together to make it. And if THOSE powerhouses actually got together to make a game, I think we're much better off with a brand new thing.

[jp-30]

The only way I might be interested in seeing another MI is if Schafer and Grossman got together to make it. And if THOSE powerhouses actually got together to make a game, I think we're much better off with a brand new thing.

No love for Ron Gilbert? :(

[Kefky]

No love for Ron Gilbert? :(

I'll always respect him for co-creating SCUMM, and inventing the modern graphic adventure puzzle with the three trials in MI1, but IMHO, Grossman and Schafer have surpassed his achievements over the years.

And I think that if they headed the game together, they could come up with something completely insane like DOTT again. :)

[AdamG]

I'm sure you'll all agree the humour and graphics live up to anything CoMI could offer.

Oh my gawd!!1! That's better then, like, Oblivion with Qarl's TP 3 4096x4096 and like all the other texture and graphic mods!!! It roxxors my boxxors and my soxxors!!!1

[Derwin]

We should really think about making a Monkey Island game? Who on this earth hasn't thought about making a Monkey Island game? :P

Heck, even I have thought about booting up the AGS and making a sequel. You can thank me later for being to lazy to make it... I am sure I could make even a die hard fan turn away from the series.

Being the nice guy I am, I went and saved TTG the effort and made the new true sequel to Monkey Island myself in Flash.

http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mi5qa6.swf&width=320

I'm sure you'll all agree the humour and graphics live up to anything CoMI could offer.

It appears someone is going to be in a legal battle soon with LA. You should try bartering your textures and character models with them to drop the lawsuit.

[jacquiey]

Telltale you must demand the rights to Monkey Island, all Lucas Arts cares about is Star Wars which is really boring and well past its used-by date. I really want to see MI5 in my lifetime!!!

:(