Tour Jurassic Park!

[Sixteen60]

http://www.telltalegames.com/jurassicpark/tour/

GO GO GO!!!!!

[Nackhe]

I tried everything Sam Jackson did in the movies to get into those ingen icons, but nothing works.

Let's get cracking people!

[Eduardo]

To quote Jackson:

"Please! God damn it! I hate this hacker crap!"

;)

[Eduardo]

Oh, so that's the password?

[sniperwar10]

password is ....

[scallenger]

Now, do we type in what Sam is saying in the movie or what he is ACTUALLY typing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Gotta love movie goofs.

EDIT:

Ha! I solved the password. ;)

[sniperwar10]

Now, do we type in what Sam is saying in the movie or what he is ACTUALLY typing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Gotta love movie goofs.

password is

**Irishmile Edit**
I put spoiler tags on the password... don't ruin it for others.
ok :)

[BboyHavoc]

The gate sure is interesting ;)

[Shadowknight1]

Now, do we type in what Sam is saying in the movie or what he is ACTUALLY typing? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Gotta love movie goofs.

Typing "please" grants you access to the InGen icons.

If you type in the things that Samuel L Jackson did, then you get the exact same responses.

If you type in the words that he SAYS, then you get the same responses again.

WOO! :D

[sniperwar10]

what does the gate do?

[Sixteen60]

what does the gate do?

The gate doesn't do anything - only the icons that glow when moused over generate a video or imagery.

[Eduardo]

Type help.

[sniperwar10]

quarantine pens! left of velociraptor

[Shadowknight1]

Well, clicking on the gate does bring up the security access screen. :p

Kinda saddened that there aren't more species listed and there's no mention of the raptors ever having more than just the single pen. However, I love that the Dilophosaurs are stated flat out to be juveniles! Too bad we won't see adults unless we have a season 2 where we go back to the island later.

[Eduardo]

The gate doesn't do anything - only the icons that glow when moused over generate a video or imagery.

Well, it allows to enter the console, in particular after you unlocked the ingen icons.

[Eduardo]

So

- motd : shows the starting message (it's Unix! I know this!)
- system [anything] : system recompiling, how about a soda
- access [anything]: permission denied, you didn't say the magic word!
- please : well...

And I don't think we are supposed to use the Help command...

[synJP]

well i guess that solves the mystery concerning dilophosaurs age and size :D

[Sixteen60]

Well, it allows to enter the console, in particular after you unlocked the ingen icons.

I really don't know what you mean. ;)

[scallenger]

I would love some kind of tour video like this as part of the videos for the deluxe edition. ;)

[Irishmile]

I really like this... I love it when developers do things like this prior to release.

QUARANTINE PENS!!!!

[tobar]

Darn I left the page and came back and now I can't access the console anymore.

Some observations:

For the vehicle entry, I'm unsure was the term green widely used in that kind of context back in 1993?
Love that the Dilophosaurs are listed as juveniles
I think it was an odd choice of character model for the silhouette of the attack. I'd have probably gone with Harding for a more generic silhouette
It's great that the Herrerasaurus is included and I also liked all of the various Ingen facility listings

[hiplobonoxa]

i haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else, so i thought it was worth having its own post: THE PARK TOUR IS ONLINE and it is wonderful! short of not being voiced by richard kiley, it's absolutely perfect. i would have accused telltale of sparing an expense, but, unfortunately, richard kiley passed away in 1999. i'm sure they would have gotten him if they could have. i'm particularly excited to see what the mystery icons turn out to be. maybe more animals? maybe more attractions? maybe both. this is great. hopefully, gallimimus and brachiosaurus will receive videos, too.

[hiplobonoxa]

also, i figured out the password. ;)

*this was posted when i thought i was posting about something that no one else had posted about before and my posts were in their own thread.

[Icedhope]

I HATE THIS HACKER CRAP!http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g470/Icedhope/th_Hacker.jpg (http://s1103.photobucket.com/albums/g470/Icedhope/?action=view&current=Hacker.jpg)

[RAnthonyMahan]

Oh God...that Mosasaur footage. I'm absolutely terrified of the water and whatever huge horrible things might be living under it. (Oddly enough, I have video games to thank for that. Growing up with an N64 as a kid exposed me to the eel from Super Mario 64 and Clanker from Banjo-Kazooie :p ) If/When I play this game, that part is going to be...an interesting experience, I know it.

Also, it somewhat saddens me that "hellonewman" is not a valid password.

[jurassiraptor]

Oh man. This is great. LOVE IT!
The acknowledgment that the dilophosaurs are juveniles... the password (guessed it on the second try! Ha!)... the security cam footage, and dino profiles...

Are there any other tricks with the Main Gate console, besides typing Arnold's commands to get Nedry's message to pop up?

[Orange Intercouse]

So if a dinosaur on that map doesn't have its own video, that must mean that we're NOT going to see it in the game...That's quite the letdown. No brachiosaurs. :(

And I guess there won't be any running from gallimimus and having to dodge them with the control stick. :(

[Faceslasher]

inGen password is PLEASE

I love that!

**Irishmile Edit**
added spoiler tags don't ruin it for others.

[Faceslasher]

That darn console thing is stuck, how do I close it? I've tried every command I could think of to close it.

[Irishmile]

I believe it has the typical close box at the top ---> [X]

[Faceslasher]

Oh I got it now, I didn't know you could actually MOVE the box. Silly ol' me.

[Faceslasher]

You shoulda made it where if you type in all the commands in the movie, and then the Magic Word stuff happens. It opens another tab with the YOU DIDNT SAY THE MAGIC WORD!

[mannyguy1]

No mention of the Pterasaur aviary. Why?

I was also wondering why the brachio and galli didn't have a video...maybe they're not featured in the game. I hope brachiosaurus is though....

I love how the mention that the dilophosaurs are recent additions to the park as to explain why they are the size that they are. Imagine a full grown dilo! Scary shit!

[synJP]

only one thing is itchin at me on that map...according to the movie, shouldnt the trike be AFTER dilophosaurus and t-rex? :/

[veki]

so does anybody know password of the jp gates?

[Shadowknight1]

only one thing is itchin at me on that map...according to the movie, shouldnt the trike be AFTER dilophosaurus and t-rex? :/

Well, the Dilos are shown on the wrong side of the road even.

[RexMaster]

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110831023935/jurassicpark/images/d/da/Baryonyx_in_the_Flooded_Forest_.jpg

[jmine83]

Before I even came to this thread I thoroughly explored the new island tour site TT put up today. I eventually figured out the password on my own, I'm just kicking myself at how incredibly obvious a password it is. But my first password attempts were the following:

040/# xy/67
mr goodbytes
WHTE-RBT.OBJ

Anyone who is familiar with the JP novel should be familiar with the syntax above. The first two lines are actual password mentions in the novel, while the third line technically isn't really a password, but Nedry's covert command execution that allows him access to park security systems and so forth.

I thought I was being so clever and spot on, but apparently I over shot the mark. Oh well.

[Cyberscribe]

No mention of the Pterosaur aviary. Why? Here's a theory that you're not going to like... What if the Pteranodon's are just part of an epilogue that takes place after JP3 and shows the free Pteranodon from that movie coming to nest at the abandoned park? I hate the possibility but it still is one.

[sniperwar10]

Here's a theory that you're not going to like... What if the Pteranodon's are just part of an epilogue that takes place after JP3 and shows the free Pteranodon from that movie coming to nest at the abandoned park? I hate the possibility but it still is one.

what about the ending scene from the lost world jurassic park

[Cyberscribe]

what about the ending scene from the lost world jurassic park
What about it? Those aren't the same species as the ones in the game and there are only three just like in JP3 while in TLW there are 6 or more.

[shamuboy]

I can't figure out the password at all! Can I have a hint on how to find it! :(

[ZerosTheWizard]

Did anyone notice that on The bone shaker camera you can see what looks like nima, harding and.. jess maybe? looks too tall to be jess but she could be standing on a box :P

[Tjibbbe]

I love this. Awesome way of setting the mood for the game. I wouldn't mind it if you guys would do stuff like this for more of your games!

Man, those Trodoons stalking behind that fence are creepy as hell.

[sniperwar10]

Did anyone notice that on The bone shaker camera you can see what looks like nima, harding and.. jess maybe? looks too tall to be jess but she could be standing on a box :P

it looks like them

[nanotyrano]

@RexMaster
Is that a Baryonix in JP:TG? Or did u just find a pic?
Source?

[TP3D]

Telltale, thank you so much, for everything. You could of just made a game and I would of been happy, bought it.

But then you go and make an amazing PC preorder with all kinds of awesome extras.

And then you make this, I mean wow, this is so cool! You've made one happy JP fan out of me :o

THANK YOU!

[Irishmile]

I wonder what #watering_hole was/is going to be?

[scallenger]

Yeah, I agree with TP3D's statement. I was honestly a little wary about this game at first, but now I am actually more excited for it than I was for the BluRay of the films (which I was VERY excited for, I even bought the limited toy edition of that, but sadly I found the overall product of the BluRays slightly underwhelming, and frustrated with the multiple versions). You guys kept impressing us with every new released content and I am sure you guys are still holding back a lot of cool stuff from us that is in the game (well, duh).

My paycheck from work just cleared, and once it did, I instantly bought the Limited Edition set of what really looks like a wonderful game. It may not be some "you feel like you are there" first person shooter like Trespasser was (and that game will always be amazing to me for it, and for it's story told by John Hammond himself), but this game really seems like the perfect sequel to the first film that even Crichton didn't write. As I keep saying elsewhere, I REALLY wish this story would be the next film instead of some weird stuff that I know they must be conjuring up lol.

So, I just wanted to say that you guys made a sale because I feel like you made a really respectable game that will make the huge JP fan in me extremely happy and remember the days when the first film came out. And I haven't even played it yet. :)

Oh, btw, your Back to the Future game, that I just finished recently, was wonderful.

[MasCot]

Here's a theory that you're not going to like... What if the Pteranodon's are just part of an epilogue that takes place after JP3 and shows the free Pteranodon from that movie coming to nest at the abandoned park? I hate the possibility but it still is one.Yes, it is very possible that TellTale sets up (the possibility of) Season 2 this way: we fast forward to post-JP3 with Harding going after the Pteranodons or something like that.

Anyway, I LOVE this tour.

Particulary:
- the Quarantine Pens (and a possible explanation for the Spinosaur mystery in JP3?)
- the mention of Site B!
- the dinosaur animations and I especially love that Harding is the reference for dinosaur sizes :D
- the Dilos are juveniles, thank you TellTale :)
- I see Segisaurs were replaced by Compies, good call IMO
- poor Paras are terrorized by the Rex and the Raptors :P

I'm a bit sad we won't see neither the Aviary nor Baryonyx, but the Aquarium compensates for this loss. :)


I can't figure out the password at all! Can I have a hint on how to find it! :(You forgot the magic word!

[Irishmile]

I can't figure out the password at all! Can I have a hint on how to find it! :(

People have already shared it in this thread.. its hidden in spoiler tags.

[gnarkill]

Got the password on my first try . I actually figured that telltale just made it so whatever you put in would unlock it, didn't know it was actual password tell reading forum. Has anyone figured out what to do with the gate yet?

[gnarkill]

it looks like them

I must be retarded cause i don't see them. can you be more specific, like corner of screen? Thanx in advance

*nevermind. Went to you tube went 720p and full-screened it and instantly saw them

[Shadowknight1]

Got the password on my first try . I actually figured that telltale just made it so whatever you put in would unlock it, didn't know it was actual password tell reading forum. Has anyone figured out what to do with the gate yet?

The gate is just used to bring up the access screen after inputting the password. This allows you to try the various commands that Arnold was trying while attempting to get the park systems up and running again.

[yankeetrex]

The Baryonyx pic is from this guys deviantart page.....

http://epic3d.deviantart.com/gallery/

He has some really nice stuff

[Asian Inferno]

I'm so pumped for the game! The extensions and expansions to Isla Nublar, the new and old dinosaurs, the new characters! This game needs to come out now!!!

[Rez]

I'm a little sad that both Barionyx and Stegosaurus are nowhere to be found. They both where on the official map of the first movie. Maybe this map is kinda a work in progress and these are the only animals currently ready to be shown to the visitors?

[Sadonicus]

Man, I love marketing stuff like this. It really shows love in the franchise and makes me pretty excited about the game!!!

[veki]

The gate is just used to bring up the access screen after inputting the password. This allows you to try the various commands that Arnold was trying while attempting to get the park systems up and running again.

Are u sure? Maybe there is a password for the gates. ;) But, thank you telltale, now please make the tour part in deluxe version, perhaps complete tour as video from the inside-car perspective. That would be awesome :)

[RexMaster]

The Baryonyx pic is from this guys deviantart page.....

http://epic3d.deviantart.com/gallery/

He has some really nice stuff

ahahahha, I could so see that working for the JP game tho! :D

[Talahar]

Great stuff all around. Can't wait to see these places in game.
And the quarantine pens video is creepy, well done!
A little over two weeks until we're good to go! :D

[SWGNATE]

Are u sure? Maybe there is a password for the gates. ;) But, thank you telltale, now please make the tour part in deluxe version, perhaps complete tour as video from the inside-car perspective. That would be awesome :)

its a combination of commands... i can tell that much....problem is i cant figure the combo...i have only figured out that access and system work together and that please fits in somewhere

[Cyberscribe]

Yes, it is very possible that TellTale sets up (the possibility of) Season 2 this way: we fast forward to post-JP3 with Harding going after the Pteranodons or something like that.

Anyway, I LOVE this tour.

Particulary:
- the Quarantine Pens (and a possible explanation for the Spinosaur mystery in JP3?)
- the mention of Site B!
- the dinosaur animations and I especially love that Harding is the reference for dinosaur sizes :D
- the Dilos are juveniles, thank you TellTale :)
- I see Segisaurs were replaced by Compies, good call IMO
- poor Paras are terrorized by the Rex and the Raptors :P

I'm a bit sad we won't see neither the Aviary nor Baryonyx, but the Aquarium compensates for this loss. :)


You forgot the magic word!
The Quarantine Pens were fantastic. The troodons are an excellent addition to the game and of course they were referred too as potentially unappealing to tourists so they planned on disposing of them, hence their embryos are not part of the original 15.

I seriously jumped when they called the dilos juveniles and at that moment I knew Telltale was awesome! They probably didn't feel the need to include the dinosaurs that were only seen as embryos in the movie (proceratosaurus, metriacanthosaurus, stegosaurus) since they were already confirmed as being there. Baryonyx's skull is still referenced on the pre-order page on one of the corners of the park map, And I also feel that (if the pteranodons are part of the park) that compsognathus replaced segisaurus.

I agree it was a very good call. Segisaurus is basically just the american compy, but poor segi! Lol he doesn't get anything does he :)

[Alpharaptor]

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/302/4/c/mr__dna_by_ghansen89-d4ecfzf.jpg
Found Mr. DNA in the goethermal power plant!

[dirtywhitesniperjr.]

So that means troodon were planned to be on the island in the quarantine pen.

[Dr.Dino]

The gate's command is "access please". Although it grants permission to anything.

And did I already posted how great Telltale's work is on this game? This backstory is 5*.

[Shadowknight1]

The gate's command is "access please". Although it grants permission to anything.

And did I already posted how great Telltale's work is on this game? This backstory is 5*.

Well of course it is. They spared no expense.

[Cyonir]

I got the terminal to go a bit further, if you type "system /usr" like in the movie it'll give you a system recompiling message. I'm not sure if theres anything else past that though.

[SWGNATE]

TELLTALE THIS IS AMAZING....you have done many a Jurassic Park fan Proud.... the fan input here is unparalleled, sure other companies have fancy graphics but none have attention to detail like what ive seen here. they could learn something. Thank you for an awesome game,

[EmceeLees]

Check it out! If you type in "access main security" (which is actually what Ray Arnold typed into the JP computer system in the movie before getting pwned by Nedry) as a password for the gate, something special happens... ;)

[veki]

Check it out! If you type in "access main security" (which is actually what Ray Arnold typed into the JP computer system in the movie before getting pwned by Nedry) as a password for the gate, something special happens... ;)

magic word?

[masterzemk]

Nothing work. Work only password.

[Emo Hoe]

Yes, it is very possible that TellTale sets up (the possibility of) Season 2 this way: we fast forward to post-JP3 with Harding going after the Pteranodons or something like that.

Anyway, I LOVE this tour.

Particulary:
- the Quarantine Pens (and a possible explanation for the Spinosaur mystery in JP3?)
- the mention of Site B!
- the dinosaur animations and I especially love that Harding is the reference for dinosaur sizes :D
- the Dilos are juveniles, thank you TellTale :)
- I see Segisaurs were replaced by Compies, good call IMO
- poor Paras are terrorized by the Rex and the Raptors :P

I'm a bit sad we won't see neither the Aviary nor Baryonyx, but the Aquarium compensates for this loss. :)


You forgot the magic word!

What spino mystery from jp3?
The spino was on Isla Sorna along with loads of other species not yet on Isla Nublar. Plus you clearly see the Troodon in the pen and the description of them being there to be euthanased due to being too deadly and nocturnal and thus bad for the park.

[veki]

If you write system it says "please specify system to access"...maybe that is the place from where inquiry shall be started ;)

[veki]

I got it! There is something with system )

[shultz.zack]

Ok the password is access please .

But It doesn't do anything!?!?!?!?

[veki]

no, it is system raptors but i don't know what now...

[shultz.zack]

Well I don't know what to do.
Someone, do us all a favor and post your brilliant answer to youtube.

Sincerely,
The Telltale Users.

[RobbieNewton]

I do like the amount of detail.

[gnarkill]

Check it out! If you type in "access main security" (which is actually what Ray Arnold typed into the JP computer system in the movie before getting pwned by Nedry) as a password for the gate, something special happens... ;)


I had to type "access main security protocol" to get the magic to happen

[shultz.zack]

I had to type "access main security protocol" to get the magic to happen

well that didnt work.

[Shadowknight1]

Ok the password is access please .

But It doesn't do anything!?!?!?!?

*sigh* The password is there to access things like the quarantine pen. Anything else on that screen is just for fun.

[MasCot]

What spino mystery from jp3?
The spino was on Isla Sorna along with loads of other species not yet on Isla Nublar. Plus you clearly see the Troodon in the pen and the description of them being there to be euthanased due to being too deadly and nocturnal and thus bad for the park.According to Billy and Grant in JP3, for some reason Spinosaurus wasn't on InGen's list of dinosaurs, the company didn't admit to its existence.

[shultz.zack]

*sigh* The password is there to access things like the quarantine pen. Anything else on that screen is just for fun.

I put that in for the gate, but your telling me there is really nothing special about the gate?

[veki]

as I said, click on main gate and type system raptors ... and smth will happen ;)

[gnarkill]

In the video about the Quarantine pen. Why do you guys think the timestamp jumps all over the place whenever there is a dinosaur(not sure what there called) on screen?

[shultz.zack]

as I said, click on main gate and type system raptors ... and smth will happen ;)

I fear that may just be an easter egg, although maybe thats all its therefore....

[Asian Inferno]

I fear that may just be an easter egg, although maybe thats all its therefore....
If you 'system' anything it gives the same thing.

[Irishmile]

In the video about the Quarantine pen. Why do you guys think the timestamp jumps all over the place whenever there is a dinosaur(not sure what there called) on screen?

I think someone on the Park is altering the footage... my guess is we may find out what is going on with that in the game...

[FPug]

Type in "help" just to get something different.

[veki]

If you 'system' anything it gives the same thing.
If you system anything it give you recompiling/soda thing :) But if you system raptors, it gives you info about raptor paddock...there must be other codes similar to that one...

[Faceslasher]

System Triceratops does the recompile thing

[jmine83]

I've tried ripping the JP Tour website and looking over the source code, but I wasn't able to get very far. I only managed to find a couple of odd tidbits of interesting information.

1. When you type "help", it reveals a link for a "jurassicpark/irix-telnetd" link that doesn't appear to contain anything right now if you go to it. Or maybe it does but the files are hidden from public access, those files potentially being the source from which the terminal program on the JP Tour page is running off of.

2. Apparently there is a "watering hole" link that's suppose to "maybe" do something or was intended to do something. But it's disabled or perhaps TT discarded it or something. That link being the lake graphic which appears near the Brachiosaurus icon on the map.

[Faceslasher]

the noglow for it is disabled, while the others don't say that. Telltale has something hidden there.

[Faceslasher]

I took off the noglow thing, it basically opens up a panel with no info. So Telltale discarded it I guess.

EDIT:

http://i.imgur.com/UP7Jf.jpg

[Emo Hoe]

According to Billy and Grant in JP3, for some reason Spinosaurus wasn't on InGen's list of dinosaurs, the company didn't admit to its existence.

The books easily cover that: They do not know what they are reproducing til the first batch hatches.
It makes sense Sorna probably had a bunch of eggs of unknown species in the hatchery that got abandoned; resulting in a species or two being unlisted as the hatched and survived after it was abandoned.

That's the view I always took anyway.

[SWGNATE]

the noglow for it is disabled, while the others don't say that. Telltale has something hidden there.

mabey they wanted to show off the jungle river cruise? they said they didnt change anything from april till now so i think we'll see what ever was supposed to be there....no point in showing everything with no suprises before release

[veki]

Oh, it would be so nice if Jungle adventure would be in the game...after all is movie canon ;)

[groucho983]

I tried most of the codes I've seen in the past few pages and none of them worked... I got in with a varient of "Access Triceratops please". I have no idea if its one word or the spaces count, but the content there in was interesting. This almost seems to have a better story than the other two movies. Good work Telltale!

[Shadowknight1]

All you need to get access to the Ingen logo things is the magic word.

[groucho983]

All you need to get access to the Ingen logo things is the magic word.

I bow to your genius. "please" seems to be a universal access password

[jurassiraptor]

According to Billy and Grant in JP3, for some reason Spinosaurus wasn't on InGen's list of dinosaurs, the company didn't admit to its existence.

The books easily cover that: They do not know what they are reproducing til the first batch hatches.
It makes sense Sorna probably had a bunch of eggs of unknown species in the hatchery that got abandoned; resulting in a species or two being unlisted as the hatched and survived after it was abandoned.

That's the view I always took anyway.

They thought the spino babies were baryonyx when they hatched, due to the snout and forearms. That's why baryonyx is on the list, but has never been seen, and why spinosaurus is not listed. :D

It wasn't until years after the facility was abandoned that the baryonyx matured and it became clear they were actually spinos.

That's my theory, anyway.

[AndyCullen]

They thought the spino babies were baryonyx when they hatched, due to the snout and forearms. That's why baryonyx is on the list, but has never been seen, and why spinosaurus is not listed. :D

It wasn't until years after the facility was abandoned that the baryonyx matured and it became clear they were actually spinos.

That's my theory, anyway.

my thoughts exactly

[mannyguy1]

has anyone noticed that the size of the full grown dilos is grossly missinterpreted. they do grow to about 20 feet as the announcer says, but the yellow silhoutte of what a 20 foot full grown dilo compared to a human is not correct. That yellow dilo silhoutte is about 30 feet long not 20. its about 6-7 feet too long and about 4-5 feet too tall

I think the problem lies because the announcer says that the juveline displayed is 6 feet long. Well lets assume harding is about 6 feet tall. That means the lengh of the dilo and the height of the harding should be about the same. but they are not! the juvenile is about 3 feet longer than harding's height!

[Faceslasher]

has anyone noticed that the size of the full grown dilos is grossly missinterpreted. they do grow to about 20 feet as the announcer says, but the yellow silhoutte of what a 20 foot full grown dilo compared to a human is not correct. That dilo is about 30 feet long not 20. its about 7-8 feet too long and about 4-5 feet too tall

You do know this isn't an actual Dino Fact guide. Be glad they got the size right.

[mannyguy1]

You do know this isn't an actual Dino Fact guide. Be glad they got the size right.

Yes I know that. You do also know this is a forum where people can state their opinions and observations? Be glad I'm not stating mine of you right now, for jumping on my case when I want to state my observation.

I'm merely pointing out the error in the visual representation of the animal based on what the narrator says. Not based on my personal knowledge of the dinosaur.

He says the juvenile is 6 feet long when its a bout 3 feet longer than Harding is tall, who I assume is about 6 feet tall take a few inches. And because of that, the size of the adult dilo is visually. Key word here is "visually" missrepresented.

[Faceslasher]

Yes I know that. You do also know this is a forum where people can state their opinions and observations? Be glad I'm not stating mine of you right now, for jumping on my case when I want to state my observation.

I'm merely pointing out the error in the visual representation of the animal based on what the narrator says. Not based on my personal knowledge of the dinosaur.

He says the juvenile is 6 feet long when its a bout 3 feet taller than Harding who I assume is about 6 feet tall take a few inches. And because of that, the size of the adult dilo is visually. Key word here is "visually" missrepresented.

Go right ahead, be the 4th person to say how a big jerkbag I am.

[TP3D]

Yes I know that. You do also know this is a forum where people can state their opinions and observations? Be glad I'm not stating mine of you right now, for jumping on my case when I want to state my observation.

I'm merely pointing out the error in the visual representation of the animal based on what the narrator says. Not based on my personal knowledge of the dinosaur.

He says the juvenile is 6 feet long when its a bout 3 feet taller than Harding who I assume is about 6 feet tall take a few inches. And because of that, the size of the adult dilo is visually. Key word here is "visually" missrepresented.

Gosh, even when Telltale tries to get it right, it still just doesn't cut it for you huh? Well, at least you get to state your opinions and observations and point out errors about their mistakes somewhere. :rolleyes:

[mannyguy1]

Gosh, even when Telltale tries to get it right, it still just doesn't cut it for you huh? Well, at least you get to state your opinions and observations and point out errors about their mistakes somewhere. :rolleyes:

I love how you're assuming stuff based one observations that I noticed. I also love how you think it doesn't cut it for me for stating that error/observation.

Have you even been on these boards? If you have you will notice:

How many times i defended this game from people that were complaining about gameplay and graphics.

how many times I praised telltale for their hard work on story and jp canon accuracy.

How I mentioned that I liked how they stated the JP dilos were juvenile.

........yet according to you it doesn't cut it for me.......

And yes I have a right to state my opinions as a person who gives telltale business, as a person who is part of these forums and as a person who clearly is not a troll but someone who cares enough to post here.

[Faceslasher]

Oh god the size is wrong on one thing, meanwhile the map is horribly incorrect and stuff. My Telltale experience is ruined forever.

Lighten up, Telltale made 1 mistake, well I dont count the map a mistake since it's a canon to the game.

[mannyguy1]

Oh god the size is wrong on one thing, meanwhile the map is horribly incorrect and stuff. My Telltale experience is ruined forever.

Lighten up, Telltale made 1 mistake, well I dont count the map a mistake since it's a canon to the game.

Thats not my point of view at all. Like I mentioned before multiple times...I'm merely stating an observation. Its you who's making a deal of it.

The fact that I point an error out does not mean it bothers me unless I explicitly say that it does...so I don't know why you're jumping on my case like I pointing out a error means I am somehow displeased with anything.

and FYI this game is supposed to be canon to the movies anyway... It might not be to you but its officially meant to be canon.

[puzzlebox]

Settle down guys. Keep it about Jurassic Park instead of taking shots at each other.

[Dr.Dino]

That's my theory, anyway.

I think it's more reasonable to assume both Spinosaurus and Pteranodon are too dangerous for a park setting, just like the new Troodon, since it correlates with JP Adventures and Joe Johnston's comment that InGen deliberately didn't put them on the list.

But what's up with Troodon lot named "IG74726f6f646f6e"? How can anyone even remember that? :p

[dirtywhitesniperjr.]

I guess those are all of the dinosaurs in Jurassic park the game.

[crochunter]

The Pteranodon are not dangerous, are free on the island, and you can see them on a helicopter ride.
the Baryonyx of Jurassic Park can not be a spinosaurus, there are many differences between the two genres that are visible at a young age, the Baryonyx are known for their huge claw, which does not have the Spinosaurus, Spinosaurus in addition to the sail on the backs and size, on the face has a kind of ridge which does not have the Baryonyx.
even the geneticists have cloned Spinosaurus Jurassic Park, and did not know it, they would be called suchomimus, which are more similar to Baryonyx

[Shadowknight1]

Why do so many believe that Pteranodons are harmless? They're gigantic flying reptiles that are very likely territorial, and they're carnivorous. The Pteranodons in Jurassic Park were likely in an aviary and break out at the end of the game, hence why they're seen flying. Which is probably the reason there are free Pteranodons on Isla Sorna in The Lost World. That and I think most fans agree that the JP3 Pteranodons are a genetic aberration.

[MasCot]

The books easily cover that: They do not know what they are reproducing til the first batch hatches.
It makes sense Sorna probably had a bunch of eggs of unknown species in the hatchery that got abandoned; resulting in a species or two being unlisted as the hatched and survived after it was abandoned.

That's the view I always took anyway.Yeah, what I tried is to "retcon" the Spino story in light of JP:G and Dr. Sorkin, I've never really given much thought to the Spino.

Anyway, your theory sounds good. :) I am not sure that after they shut down Site B, an egg could have hatched by itself, but whatever, we are talking sci-fi, stranger things happenned in this franchise.:D


They thought the spino babies were baryonyx when they hatched, due to the snout and forearms. That's why baryonyx is on the list, but has never been seen, and why spinosaurus is not listed. :D

It wasn't until years after the facility was abandoned that the baryonyx matured and it became clear they were actually spinos.

That's my theory, anyway.Ooooh, I really like that theory.:) In the book Wu didn't really care about the identification of hatchlings, so it's possible that they identified a young Spino as Baryonyx.


My theory with Dr. Sorkin is that she didn't care about InGen directives about retiring dangerous dinosaurs (like the Tour says about the Troodons). So she kept the Troodons and the Spino and possibly other dinos alive.

Of course there are mistakes in this theory: the Tour indicates she was not involved with Site B (and the Spinosaurus). Moreover, there are additional VERY dangerous dinos, e.g. I wonder how far an adult Dilophosaurus could spit, that seems a little too dangerous for the Safari Adventure I would think. Also there are the freakishly intelligent 'Velociraptors'...

Well anyway, I am intrigued with the Dr. Sorking and Troodons storyline.:)

[BboyHavoc]

So did anyone else figure out any more codes to put in the command line for the gate?

[Faceslasher]

Welp I'm on my last warning before I'm permabanned.

Sorry for acting like an ass, but I'm from a more serious forum, it's just my personality.

[crochunter]

how the Pteranodon are carnivores?
The Pteranodon are piscivores, the theory of the territories is right, but as long as it is the right distance will not give problems.
of Isla Nubla there is no an aviary, or to see the Pteranodon because you need to book a helicopter ride?
the Pteranodon aviary jurassic park3 contained genetically modified, then were locked in a cage and flying animals only creates stress to be locked in a cage.

[scallenger]

How do you know Nublar didn't have an aviary? They had the jungle river cruise, according to the book AND the film. And in the novel there definitely was an aviary. So, if the game had one too, why not? Although I have no idea if the game does, the inclusion of the Pteranodons is puzzling still.

[Turanoceratops]

Have you noticed that the Herrerasaurs have the same sounds as the Raptors?

[crochunter]

on the island tour, click the heliport, he says, "Located at the foot of a mighty 360 foot high waterfall, offers the fastest way Heliport our visit to Jurassic Park. Arrive in style from nearby Costa Rica and take advantage of our" Pterosaur's Eye View "tour of the park's spectacular coastline. Consult your travel agent for details"
says that the Pteranodon are on the coast and need to book a trip to see them

[puzzlebox]

Why do so many believe that Pteranodons are harmless? They're gigantic flying reptiles that are very likely territorial, and they're carnivorous.

Not to mention the danger that one might drop a gigantic reptile crap in your eye as it flies past.

[Irishmile]

I bet they would make nice leather jackets though.. for Guybrush to sell.

[Shadowknight1]

on the island tour, click the heliport, he says, "Located at the foot of a mighty 360 foot high waterfall, offers the fastest way Heliport our visit to Jurassic Park. Arrive in style from nearby Costa Rica and take advantage of our" Pterosaur's Eye View "tour of the park's spectacular coastline. Consult your travel agent for details"
says that the Pteranodon are on the coast and need to book a trip to see them

No, that's not what that means at ALL. That's like saying "bird's eye view".

There IS an aviary in Jurassic Park, it's seen on the screens of attractions that aren't ready yet, along with the jungle river ride.

[crochunter]

I have to understand, I'm sorry I'm Italian and the translator did not translate

[tobar]

There IS an aviary in Jurassic Park, it's seen on the screens of attractions that aren't ready yet, along with the jungle river ride.

Can we get some screenshots of this?

[Shadowknight1]

Can we get some screenshots of this?

The Aviary is on the screen behind Malcolm. (http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/5242/rides1.png)

And at one point, Hammond's narration in the background mentions "majestic winged dinosaurs".

[Icedhope]

Yes, and it looks like a concept drawing.

[Emo Hoe]

Yes, and it looks like a concept drawing.

Probably because they couldn't afford to build an aviary set for one still photo and/or Hammond didn't want to show a photo of a muddy scaffold clad construction site.

[Sinaz20]

I just wanted to point out that the watering hole near the south of the island is meant to be the watering hole where Hammond welcomes everyone to Jurassic Park.

That particular location was missing from the original map.

[Shadowknight1]

I just wanted to point out that the watering hole near the south of the island is meant to be the watering hole where Hammond welcomes everyone to Jurassic Park.

That particular location was missing from the original map.

That's actually what I was thinking. Works for me!

[Alpharaptor]

I just wanted to point out that the watering hole near the south of the island is meant to be the watering hole where Hammond welcomes everyone to Jurassic Park.

That particular location was missing from the original map.
Clever girl...

[veki]

Hmm, there is still question of a watering hole in the North of the island ;)

[scallenger]

So, Tell Tale team, are there some very interesting locations we will see that involve attractions or other things NOT labled on your map? ;) Can you tease us with what it could be?

[Faceslasher]

So, Tell Tale team, are there some very interesting locations we will see that involve attractions or other things NOT labled on your map? ;) Can you tease us with what it could be?

All I can say is that the Boneshaker is the only attraction built besides the tour. Scratch that, it's 90% done.

I'd love it if Telltale made the tour car a way to get around, imagine taking a tour to Nedry's dead body?

"On the right, we have a dead body of a human that was once a member of the park. We spared no expense adding him to the wonderful place known as Jurassic Park!"

[joeldavidr2]

as close is ...
Whte_rbt.obj

[DiegoTengo]

beautiful. enough said ;)

[scallenger]

I was wondering... and I may be way off here... but is the inclusion of a Geothermal Plant a nod to Trespasser's "lost" Geothermal Plant level? I wonder if there will be any game references to Trespasser, given that it's the most infamous of JP games, lol.

[mannyguy1]

Poor parasaurs the don't catch a break. They're showing up dead in the compies video, the t-rex video, and one gets attacked in the raptor video...lol....

[TB3]

All I can say is that the Boneshaker is the only attraction built besides the tour. Scratch that, it's 90% done.

Not entirely - the website mentions 'other rides' (plural) and refers to the 'amusement park'; from the text it seems that the original plan was to open this Amusement Park as part of 'Phase 2' of Jurassic Park's business plan, along with the Jungle River Cruise, the Aviary, and the Mosasaur Marine Facility - like Hammond said in the film, additional attractions were intended come online six or seven months after the park opens *.

However, due to rapid construction and the need for quicker financial returns, it seems InGen will launch the amusement park during Phase 1 - a 'soft launch' suggests that they'll open it without fanfare or a lot of fuss.

So we can say with confidence that other amusement rides are intended, but can't say how advanced their construction is in comparison to Boneshaker.

* At one point I wondered if the staggered opening was intended to allow initial focus to be about the dinosaurs rather than just the Isla Nublar Resort as a whole, now from the Telltale website I wonder if construction delays and financial over-runs forced Hammond to either accelerate the timetable for the park's opening, or instead to scale back expenditure on secondary attractions and focus on the Park's core 'ride' (the Safari tour) and open with that alone, so that JP can be earning revenue whilst the final phase of construction goes ahead.

[Emo Hoe]

I was wondering... and I may be way off here... but is the inclusion of a Geothermal Plant a nod to Trespasser's "lost" Geothermal Plant level? I wonder if there will be any game references to Trespasser, given that it's the most infamous of JP games, lol.

I'd say its reference to the geothermal power plant seen in the original novel and i believed mentioned in passing in the movie as the parks power source.

[Romeosierra616]

Before I even came to this thread I thoroughly explored the new island tour site TT put up today. I eventually figured out the password on my own, I'm just kicking myself at how incredibly obvious a password it is. But my first password attempts were the following:

040/# xy/67
mr goodbytes
WHTE-RBT.OBJ

Anyone who is familiar with the JP novel should be familiar with the syntax above. The first two lines are actual password mentions in the novel, while the third line technically isn't really a password, but Nedry's covert command execution that allows him access to park security systems and so forth.

I thought I was being so clever and spot on, but apparently I over shot the mark. Oh well.


HAHA! I did the EXACT same thing as you lol!:D

[Shadowknight1]

Not entirely - the website mentions 'other rides' (plural) and refers to the 'amusement park'; from the text it seems that the original plan was to open this Amusement Park as part of 'Phase 2' of Jurassic Park's business plan, along with the Jungle River Cruise, the Aviary, and the Mosasaur Marine Facility - like Hammond said in the film, additional attractions were intended come online six or seven months after the park opens *.

However, due to rapid construction and the need for quicker financial returns, it seems InGen will launch the amusement park during Phase 1 - a 'soft launch' suggests that they'll open it without fanfare or a lot of fuss.

So we can say with confidence that other amusement rides are intended, but can't say how advanced their construction is in comparison to Boneshaker.

* At one point I wondered if the staggered opening was intended to allow initial focus to be about the dinosaurs rather than just the Isla Nublar Resort as a whole, now from the Telltale website I wonder if construction delays and financial over-runs forced Hammond to either accelerate the timetable for the park's opening, or instead to scale back expenditure on secondary attractions and focus on the Park's core 'ride' (the Safari tour) and open with that alone, so that JP can be earning revenue whilst the final phase of construction goes ahead.

Well, I'd assume that the enclosure part of the Aviary would be constructed so the pterosaurs could become acclimated to their environment. And as I recall from the book, the Jungle River Cruise was being delayed thanks to the discovery that the Dilophosaurs were venomous.

Also, the geothermal power plant might also be a small reference to the line from The Lost World, "Hammond ran everything on geothermal power. It was never meant to need replenishing."

In any case, I hope that the only reason some of the dinosaurs have no video is because they don't want to show them off yet, not that they've been excluded. And I think the absence of some species, such as Stegosaurus, is because they're not essential to the game or even included. Personally, I wouldn't mind if they took out some of the carnivores and threw in a couple more herbivores like Maiasaurus. For a park/resort, there were a significant number of highly dangerous animals.

[Sinaz20]

Hmm, there is still question of a watering hole in the North of the island ;)

The body of water in the north was an original feature of the JP movie canon map. It actually turned out to be apropos to a location featured early in the season-- since the feature seemed so out of the way and lonely on the map, we gave it a little purpose.

Also, our Geothermal plant is entirely based on movie canon. As such, we got to flesh it out quite a bit.

[Shadowknight1]

The body of water in the north was an original feature of the JP movie canon map. It actually turned out to be apropos to a location featured early in the season-- since the feature seemed so out of the way and lonely on the map, we gave it a little purpose.

Also, our Geothermal plant is entirely based on movie canon. As such, we got to flesh it out quite a bit.

Sinaz, are there going to be any documentaries or anything that goes into why certain dinosaurs were selected over others, ie. why we got Herrerasaurus instead of Baryonyx? Stuff like that?

[Sinaz20]

Sinaz, are there going to be any documentaries or anything that goes into why certain dinosaurs were selected over others, ie. why we got Herrerasaurus instead of Baryonyx? Stuff like that?

Well, since you mention it, and since there's a lot of questions about that-- I'll recommend it as a point of conversation for the developer commentaries.

[Cyberscribe]

Well, since you mention it, and since there's a lot of questions about that-- I'll recommend it as a point of conversation for the developer commentaries.
Please do :) I would LOVE that documentary! Also I would like to know your personal favorite dinosaurs in the series and how you felt about the dinosaurs you had to consider for the game.

In any case, I hope that the only reason some of the dinosaurs have no video is because they don't want to show them off yet, not that they've been excluded. And I think the absence of some species, such as Stegosaurus, is because they're not essential to the game or even included. Personally, I wouldn't mind if they took out some of the carnivores and threw in a couple more herbivores like Maiasaurus. For a park/resort, there were a significant number of highly dangerous animals.
I don't think we'll be seeing Stegosaurus in the game at all. Well, we'd all like to have our own personal favorite dinosaurs in the game, but they had to keep true to the original movie, and those were the dinosaurs that were there. I just want to know what the people developing the embryos and the brochures were thinking, they had plenty of good dinos to pull from the novel. I just wonder why they kept on putting in therapods, it's just overkill, pardon the pun. :)

[Shadowknight1]

Well, since you mention it, and since there's a lot of questions about that-- I'll recommend it as a point of conversation for the developer commentaries.

I'm going to guess that they probably couldn't afford to make models for each species, much less find time for each of them to show up.

Considering that the species seen in Jurassic Park in the first film are: T-rex, Velociraptor, Dilophosaurus, Brachiosaurus, Gallimimus, Triceratops, and Parasaurolophus, with Protoceratosaurus, Metriacanthosaurus, and Stegosaurus shown as embryos, and finally Segisaurus, Herrerasaurus, and Baryonyx being shown on maps, that gives us 13 out of 15 species, with the ones seen only on the map being in doubt. The game gives us Herrerasaurus(which is spelled Hererasaurus in one spot on the tour) so that leaves Segisaurus and Baryonyx in "doubt" as well as two other species. If we accept that Compsognathus has taken the place of Segisaurus, then the addition of Pteranodon and Mosasaur give us the required 15 with Troodon being stricken from the records.

[gnarkill]

well that didnt work.

It worked for me a couple of times now.

[Cyberscribe]

Considering that the species seen in Jurassic Park in the first film are: T-rex, Velociraptor, Dilophosaurus, Brachiosaurus, Gallimimus, Triceratops, and Parasaurolophus, with Protoceratosaurus, Metriacanthosaurus, and Stegosaurus shown as embryos, and finally Segisaurus, Herrerasaurus, and Baryonyx being shown on maps, that gives us 13 out of 15 species, with the ones seen only on the map being in doubt. The game gives us Herrerasaurus(which is spelled Hererasaurus in one spot on the tour) so that leaves Segisaurus and Baryonyx in "doubt" as well as two other species. If we accept that Compsognathus has taken the place of Segisaurus, then the addition of Pteranodon and Mosasaur give us the required 15 with Troodon being stricken from the records.
Couldn't have put it better myself :)

[Asian Inferno]

I'm going to guess that they probably couldn't afford to make models for each species, much less find time for each of them to show up.

Considering that the species seen in Jurassic Park in the first film are: T-rex, Velociraptor, Dilophosaurus, Brachiosaurus, Gallimimus, Triceratops, and Parasaurolophus, with Protoceratosaurus, Metriacanthosaurus, and Stegosaurus shown as embryos, and finally Segisaurus, Herrerasaurus, and Baryonyx being shown on maps, that gives us 13 out of 15 species, with the ones seen only on the map being in doubt. The game gives us Herrerasaurus(which is spelled Hererasaurus in one spot on the tour) so that leaves Segisaurus and Baryonyx in "doubt" as well as two other species. If we accept that Compsognathus has taken the place of Segisaurus, then the addition of Pteranodon and Mosasaur give us the required 15 with Troodon being stricken from the records.

Or make them interesting enough and unique enough to stand on their own. I personally prefer these new "replacements" to the quoted map species.

[Shadowknight1]

And then of course, there are the dinos spotted in the other two movies: Corythosaurus, Mamenchisaurus, Ceratosaurus, Pachycephalosaurus, Ankylosaurus, and Spinosaurus. I think that's everything. :P

[veki]

The body of water in the north was an original feature of the JP movie canon map. It actually turned out to be apropos to a location featured early in the season-- since the feature seemed so out of the way and lonely on the map, we gave it a little purpose.

Also, our Geothermal plant is entirely based on movie canon. As such, we got to flesh it out quite a bit.

So something will happen at that northern part :) Btw, Sinaz, can you please confirm if dinosaurs mentioned on the map are only dinosaurs in the game, or if there would be more of them. Or at least give a small hint ;)

[Faceslasher]

So something will happen at that northern part :) Btw, Sinaz, can you please confirm if dinosaurs mentioned on the map are only dinosaurs in the game, or if there would be more of them. Or at least give a small hint ;)

There are possibly more dinosaurs then what the map contains.

[Sinaz20]

So something will happen at that northern part :) Btw, Sinaz, can you please confirm if dinosaurs mentioned on the map are only dinosaurs in the game, or if there would be more of them. Or at least give a small hint ;)

No can do-- You'll just have to play.

And yeah-- I mean, there's too many points of interest in the northern part of the island for us not to take you there. :P

[veki]

!!! :)

[Maniac536]

I used the magic word and I think that's what worked.

[Maniac536]

Some people that have been mentioning things teased in the movie that didn't appear in it but may be in the game. I remind you a few things.

1. The aviary was originally scripted to be in the first Jurassic Park movie, it was moved to the third.

2. The jungle river cruise made a cameo mention in that dinner sequence as well. That's a reference to a scene in the book where Alan, Lex and Tim (I think) were going down a river on rafts where they're attacked by dinosaurs. I know a scene like it was definatly in the book and that was the basis for the Jurassic Park ride. The other option for the ride at the time would have been the ford explorers but then they said "Hmm...Universal doesn't have a water ride..."

[hiplobonoxa]

i think it's fair to say that telltale is well aware of all the animals thought to be on isla nublar and all the animals thought to have been created by ingen. we already know they have found wonderful opportunities to add characters, animals, and locations to canon without contradiction and i'm sure we will be seeing plenty more. with that in mind, i don't think the likelihood of seeing any one animal or any one location over another is any more or less likely. i am sure they are well aware of what we (the die-hard "jurassic park fan") would like to see, but, we must remember, this is first and foremost a story and the people at telltale are expert story tellers. they will only include an animal or location if it is for the good of the story and not for the sake of inclusion. for example, there is no reason to expect to see a baryonyx in the game any more than there is reason to not expect to see a baryonyx in the game. we all know baryonyx is on the island and, if it fits well into the story, we will surely see it. that being said, i do expect a fair amount of fan service throughout the game, which will surely delight "jurassic park" fans, but not at the expense of the people who are less obsessive about the property.

[titossauro]

NICE JOB! It seems JP:The Game team really studied our Fan stuff to make this.

[T002Tyrant]

I reckon in film cannon the Baryonyx and Stegosaurus was to be shipped in during Phase II. Maybe we'd see Isla Sorna dinosaurs in Phase III depending on how "dangerous" they were considered. I suspect that Dilophosaurus at 20ft long would be too dangerous and either extra safety precautions would have to be made or they would be euthanised. Either that or dilos only have venom glands during childhood to protect them as youngsters and their venom subsides as an adult as it is big enough to defend itself.

[DaVewB]

please make this an "APP" for Ipad!!! This would be awesome in my jurassic park jeep replica Im working on.

[Shadowknight1]

I reckon in film cannon the Baryonyx and Stegosaurus was to be shipped in during Phase II. Maybe we'd see Isla Sorna dinosaurs in Phase III depending on how "dangerous" they were considered. I suspect that Dilophosaurus at 20ft long would be too dangerous and either extra safety precautions would have to be made or they would be euthanised. Either that or dilos only have venom glands during childhood to protect them as youngsters and their venom subsides as an adult as it is big enough to defend itself.

That's why there are signs on the Dilo enclosure that say not to roll down the windows of the safari vehicles. ;)

[Sinaz20]

...Either that or dilos only have venom glands during childhood to protect them as youngsters and their venom subsides as an adult as it is big enough to defend itself.
That's a strange conclusion to reach-- I mean, InGen can't really bank on a defense mechanism becoming vestigial through maturation.

I would imagine a more practical development from this would be InGen installing something like a salad bar sneeze guard at Dilo face level. After all, you can't lock your guests into the SUV AND disable the windows. If the tour broke down (haha) in the Dilo paddock, you'd need a way to allow visitors to safely exit the tour car in case of emergency.

[TB3]

I always had a similar thought about the JP Dilos, but my theory was that it was the frills that were features seen only on the juiveniles, in order to scare off attackers (or alternatively to draw their attention in order to make them look right at the dilos, resulting in easier targeting of the eyes), and that the frills fell off as the animals reached adulthood.

However, the actual venom was devised by Chrichton (as I recall) as an explanation for the weak jaws seen in Dilo skulls. His idea was that rather than using the mouth for mauling, the animal would simply bite the victim to induce envenomation (not via injection but like a gila monster, by chewing to work their venomous saliva into the wound), and then stepping back and waiting for the animal to die. Seems reasonable to me that such a tactic would work well in adulthood.

Also, given the other venomous theropods in the various canon (compies in the books, troodons in the game) it seems to be a common evolutionary trait that went through various iterations over the milennia.

[Mystic Terrapin]

That's a strange conclusion to reach-- I mean, InGen can't really bank on a defense mechanism becoming vestigial through maturation.

I would imagine a more practical development from this would be InGen installing something like a salad bar sneeze guard at Dilo face level. After all, you can't lock your guests into the SUV AND disable the windows. If the tour broke down (haha) in the Dilo paddock, you'd need a way to allow visitors to safely exit the tour car in case of emergency.
But I thought that's why the windows remained up in the car in the movie?

[Sinaz20]

But I thought that's why the windows remained up in the car in the movie?

Yeah, but I was referring to the questionable practice of having both locked doors and locked windows.

Though, I suppose you could put a window breaker in the SUV. But still, if the SUV konks out in the Dilo paddock and you need to evacuate the guests-- you need some way to prevent the Dilos from spitting at them as they exit the vehicle.

[Irishmile]

Well I suppose those are things they were still working out or just hadn't realized or figured out before the park opened.

Plus one of the morality themes of jp is tech vs nature... They probably didn't really believe they hadn't thought of everything.

[Cyberscribe]

I always had a similar thought about the JP Dilos, but my theory was that it was the frills that were features seen only on the juiveniles, in order to scare off attackers (or alternatively to draw their attention in order to make them look right at the dilos, resulting in easier targeting of the eyes), and that the frills fell off as the animals reached adulthood.

However, the actual venom was devised by Chrichton (as I recall) as an explanation for the weak jaws seen in Dilo skulls. His idea was that rather than using the mouth for mauling, the animal would simply bite the victim to induce envenomation (not via injection but like a gila monster, by chewing to work their venomous saliva into the wound), and then stepping back and waiting for the animal to die. Seems reasonable to me that such a tactic would work well in adulthood.

Also, given the other venomous theropods in the various canon (compies in the books, troodons in the game) it seems to be a common evolutionary trait that went through various iterations over the milennia.
That's a cool theory. But look at it from this perspective, If the filmmakers of the future jurassic park "trilogy" decide to go back and put Dilophosaurus in the film, what will be the most iconic way they can show it off the audience after 20 years? Well first of all they MIGHT have it at it's correct size and second, just to let everyone know which dino it is, they will have it showing off it's frill. The fan theories have to take into account that the filmmakers are not going to be giving their dinosaurs very much thought.

[AndyCullen]

Yeah, but I was referring to the questionable practice of having both locked doors and locked windows.

Though, I suppose you could put a window breaker in the SUV. But still, if the SUV konks out in the Dilo paddock and you need to evacuate the guests-- you need some way to prevent the Dilos from spitting at them as they exit the vehicle.

Here's a great opportunity to clear this up for us.

Is the tour road going through the dilo paddock or around it along the fence?
If it's going through, would this explain why Nedry ran into one on his way to the East dock? ..or more importantly why the dilo paddock is on the left side of the tour road on your map, when the group was told to look out the right side of the tour vehicles? Tell me tell me i must know!

[Sinaz20]

Here's a great opportunity to clear this up for us.

Is the tour road going through the dilo paddock or around it along the fence?
If it's going through, would this explain why Nedry ran into one on his way to the East dock? ..or more importantly why the dilo paddock is on the left side of the tour road on your map, when the group was told to look out the right side of the tour vehicles? Tell me tell me i must know!

So, let's see if I can clear things up here.

The tour road goes through the Dilophosaurus paddock area, but the icon on the map is not meant to indicate a discrete paddock. The Dilos inhabit both sides of the track and probably would so until additional paddocks were carved out for future species.

But, also, consider that the interior of the island does not really represent a cordoning off of herbivores. They are given free reign of the interior plains... so though the map places icons, and the park tries to keep them in one spot or another, they can and do roam.

Nedry is using a combination of tour roads AND service roads that run roughly parallel to the main tour roads but pass directly through the paddocks.

Also, the movie has its geographical quarks.

Notice how the tour vehicles manage to make a U-Turn to pass back through the T-Rex paddock without driving in reverse. There's no indication of where such a loop back would occur. Phase 2 map has an area where such a turn around could occur.

[Icedhope]

As a Jurassic Park Fan Boy. I'm going to throw this out...Ingen had nooo Idea what they were doing. The book explains it better and a problem with the first film..is the camera angels..they make you fee sort of lost..that's why from what I heard the Isla Nublar map took forever to figure things out because..because you only have so much material to go on and prop maps that really aren't that all reliable. Because they are a generalization...you hand a tourist a schematic and they are going to be..."Uh, Uh." You hand them a generalization...well they will understand it a bit better.

[hiplobonoxa]

As a Jurassic Park Fan Boy. I'm going to throw this out...Ingen had nooo Idea what they were doing.

i think that was the takeaway from "jurassic park." no matter how good your ideas are and how carefully you plan, reality has absolutely no reason whatsoever to conform. man cannot bend nature to his will. but perhaps woman can...

[SWGNATE]

i think that was the takeaway from "jurassic park." no matter how good your ideas are and how carefully you plan, reality has absolutely no reason whatsoever to conform. man cannot bend nature to his will. but perhaps woman can...

I think Hammonds original plans for Site B could Have Worked perfectly... a small amount of buildings on an island with dinosaurs and an electric fence perimeter around the labs and power stations. a monorail to move around the island. with intent to invite dinosaur scientists, Hammond could have made InGen money by striking visitation deals with major institutions. Its the Mass tourist attraction that only asks for trouble. intending to have civillian Guests is where InGen went wrong...

[TB3]

I think Hammonds original plans for Site B could Have Worked perfectly... a small amount of buildings on an island with dinosaurs and an electric fence perimeter around the labs and power stations. a monorail to move around the island. with intent to invite dinosaur scientists, Hammond could have made InGen money by striking visitation deals with major institutions. Its the Mass tourist attraction that only asks for trouble. intending to have civillian Guests is where InGen went wrong...

Problem is Swgnate is that it's not much of a business plan, especially given the massive investment that Hammond required from his backers in order to finance the JP genetic technology - remember that the dinosaurs themselves are just the hook, and that InGen stood to make billions from Jurassic Park franchises (other Parks across the world) and more money from merchandising - from a returns-driven standpoint, there's no way running Site B as a scientific curio could compete, and the odds are that if something like that had been done, there would have eventually been demands to build a tourist-driven facility anyway, just to cater to the mass desire in everyday people to see actual dinosaurs.

I'm just glad (in the context of the film) that the original plan to build the JP Amphitheatre in San Diego got pulled - that would have been a bloodbath!


Also, the movie has its geographical quarks.

Notice how the tour vehicles manage to make a U-Turn to pass back through the T-Rex paddock without driving in reverse. There's no indication of where such a loop back would occur. Phase 2 map has an area where such a turn around could occur.

I don't know if you're aware of this Sinaz, but there's a deleted line of dialogue in the script that explains that, sequenced immediately after the storm hits Isla Nublar's breakwater:

START

47 INT CONTROL ROOM DUSK

HAMMOND is with RAY ARNOLD, staring at the video screens.

ARNOLD
I found a way to re-route through the program. I'm
turning the cars around in the rest area loop.

HAMMOND
Rotten luck, this storm. Get my grandchildren on the
radio will you? I don't want them to worry about a wee
bit of rain.

Arnold reaches for the hand microphone.

END

You can then imagine the camera tracking over to Nedry arguing on the vid-phone with the man at the east dock (Miles Chadwick presumably, identified in the script as the ship's mate).

Seems to me that (in another of the computer systems quirks) there was no proceedure in place for aborting the Safari tour (and if the park was open, with dozens of vehicles orbiting clockwise around the track, a turn around would be impossible), but Arnold was able to clobber together a work-around.

There's also the famous geographical blooper of how the 'paddock map' shows the Triceratops should preceed the T-Rex on the tour, leading many to suggest that the sick Trike was actually being temporarily housed in the 'Reserve Paddock' seen during the fence-shut-down scene.

But back on topic, I can't wait to see more of what Telltale will reveal about the incomplete Park (or maybe even mention the abandoned San Diego Amphitheatre project). Features like the Amusement Park, the North Dock and the Power Plant really have my interest piqued.

One thing I was wondering though is if the game is going to make any mention of Isla Nublar's other resort facilities, such as hotels (from various materials there seem to be three, the Safari Lodge, the Inguanadon Inn, and the Treetop Inn located in the Pteranodon Aviary), staff residences or the planned airstrip, referenced in another line of cut dialogue from the script during the arrival by helicopter;

START

HAMMOND (cont'd)
Bad wind shears! We have to drop pretty fast! Hold on,
this can be a little thrilling!

The helicopter drops like a stone. Outside the windows, they
can see cliff walls racing by, uncomfortably close. They bounce like
hell, hitting wind up and down drafts.

Only Hammond still feels chatty.

HAMMOND (cont'd)
We're planning an airstrip! On pilings, extending out
into the ocean twelve thousand feet! Like La Guardia,
only a lot safer! What do you think?

They don't answer, just hold on.

END

Obviously the inference by their arrival by helicopter is that Isla Nublar (unlike Sorna) does not even have a primitive airstrip at this stage, but when built, a 12,000 foot runway would allow for planes up to and including jumbos like the 747 to land, and slides of proposed air services can be seen during the endorsement team's luncheon in the Visitor Center.

Combined with the helipad and the park's ability to recieve cruise liners at the North Dock, Isla Nublar would have had the capacity to handle thousands of guest arrivals and departures on a daily basis, not just as an amusement-park or biological-preserve, but as a bona-fide resort.

I'm really glad that the game continues to give us similiar hints and glimpses of the full scope of Hammond's unfinished dream, and I can't wait. :)

[SpielbergFan]

Phase 2 map has an area where such a turn around could occur.

The map mentions Phase 2 as well. So are we going to see another map in the next days?

[Sinaz20]

The map mentions Phase 2 as well. So are we going to see another map in the next days?

No, our map is like, an updated interim map between Phase 1 and Phase 2. It has some corrections to which dinosaurs ended up in which paddocks, some corrections to geography (notice that the compass rose has been tilted a bit and some rivers given more accurate courses.) It's kinda like you are looking at a prototype map for Phase 2 in the InGen board room... some of the icon interactivity could be considered as the board of trustees pointing at the map and asking "what about the power plant?" "what about that troublesome geneticist?" "what? No nighttime tour? But we already bought the night vision goggles!"

I don't know of any additional maps-- we spent a lot of time on that map. Even though it looks like the original map, it was actually repainted from the canvas up, so to speak, with an eye for authenticity and reverence.

[SpielbergFan]

By the way: Are we gonna see another trailer till the game's release? I noticed that the original trailer isn't up on your YouTube channel anymore.

[Sinaz20]

By the way: Are we gonna see another trailer till the game's release? I noticed that the original trailer isn't up on your YouTube channel anymore.

I don't know-- that's all up to marketing, now.

[groucho983]

I'm sorry if this has been a repost (searched the forums but couldn't find an answer) but has anyone seen the time code on the quarantine pen video on the map? It goes all over the place instead of just showing the passage of time.

[Faceslasher]

I'm sorry if this has been a repost (searched the forums but couldn't find an answer) but has anyone seen the time code on the quarantine pen video on the map? It goes all over the place instead of just showing the passage of time.

Someone messed with the time, it will be explained in the game, possibly.

[titossauro]

According to Billy and Grant in JP3, for some reason Spinosaurus wasn't on InGen's list of dinosaurs, the company didn't admit to its existence.

... or, as some guys had long discussed in the JP communities, spinos, just as the dilophos, were too juvenile Baryonyxes to be indentified as such. Also... by 1993 the Spinosaurid group was a mess in Paleontology. Only from 96 and over, that new fossil findings in Brazil and Northern Africa could philogenetically conect Baryonyx to Spinosaur, to Suchummimus, to Irritator, and so on...

The same happened to the Raptors... by that time, the Velociraptor and Deinonychus genera were synominous to Science.


About the aviary: Guys, in the new trailer it is shown a flock of pterosaurs flyng. There will be a scene with them.

About Brachios: they will certainly show them. ;)

ONE VERY IMPORTANT FIX TO TELLTALE:

On the text describing Velociraptor: Velociraptor fossils are provenient from the LATE CRETACEOUS ~80 MYA.

:pSorry being so stupidly being Ross Geller. It's just the bad behaviour from work. But the game will be definatelly Accurate to the Fan Community.

NICE JOB!;)

[interitus]

Everyone missed a feature. Will we see the Jurassic Park Tennis?

[Romeosierra616]

How about the Nublar Golf Course seen on one of the Projectors during the lunch scene in JP, can we take a break from getting chased by the Rex to enjoy the Beautiful 18 Hole Course :p

[Sinaz20]

How about the Nublar Golf Course seen on one of the Projectors during the lunch scene in JP, can we take a break from getting chased by the Rex to enjoy the Beautiful 18 Hole Course :p

I have a feeling Florida players would be old hands when it comes to big hungry lizards hiding in the rough. :D

[Havoc0213]

For my first post here on these forums, I have to say that I absolutely love the tour page on the main site. Very well done! It's things like this that get my excited for a game.

[Faceslasher]

I have a feeling Florida players would be old hands when it comes to big hungry lizards hiding in the rough. :D

Been living in Florida for like 16 years, that's the biggest stereotype if I have ever seen one.

[Shadowknight1]

Been living in Florida for like 16 years, that's the biggest stereotype if I have ever seen one.

I know, right? You'd think they'd know that dinosaurs aren't necessarily lizards by now.:p

[Sinaz20]

I know, right? You'd think they'd know that dinosaurs aren't necessarily lizards by now.:p

Made my day. :D

[tobar]

Oh. I thought you were talking about the retirees. :p

[raptorhunter]

I really love how the tour map was laid out. I first thought of "the magic word" when it asked me for the password. I typed IT in an got access :D I really hope they have puzzle/security-questions based on the book or the novel. I really like that Herrerasaurus is making it in and that Troodon seems very creepy and mysterious (especially in the Quarantine pens video. I pre-ordered the deluxe edition and can't wait for the release. Im a very picky gamer, which is why I don't like CoD at all (hate me if you'd want) and I believe this game to be very very great so far. Also.....THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE MARINE FACILITY!!!! lol

[joeldavidr2]

What is the code to enter restricted areas?
try to everything you mentioned in the film,
does not work.

[Faceslasher]

what is the code to enter restricted areas?
Try to everything you mentioned in the film,
does not work.

i hate this hacker crap.

[bloodkiller630]

Here's a theory that you're not going to like... What if the Pteranodon's are just part of an epilogue that takes place after JP3 and shows the free Pteranodon from that movie coming to nest at the abandoned park? I hate the possibility but it still is one.

i hate to say that your wrong, but there is a novel about the pterenadons nesting near a city, just forgot which one though i think london or some place like that, and when Dr. Grant heres about this, i am pretty sure they go over too that place and wipe out the pterenadons, i am not so sur because ive never read it, ive read the description for it online though, you got to go to google and type in all jurassic park novels, it should be in one of those:):):):)

[raptorhunter]

i hate to say that your wrong, but there is a novel about the pterenadons nesting near a city, just forgot which one though i think london or some place like that, and when Dr. Grant heres about this, i am pretty sure they go over too that place and wipe out the pterenadons, i am not so sur because ive never read it, ive read the description for it online though, you got to go to google and type in all jurassic park novels, it should be in one of those:):):):)


I have that, its called Jurassic Park Adventures:Flyers, the pteranadons that escaped Isla Sorna in JP3 attack Universal Studios, u know how dat'll go lol

[bloodkiller630]

I have that, its called Jurassic Park Adventures:Flyers, the pteranadons that escaped Isla Sorna in JP3 attack Universal Studios, u know how dat'll go lol

kk thanks i knew it was something along the lines of that, just forgot the name of it, i will eventually find it online and read it

[raptorhunter]

np, i found it at a garage sale, can't find any in bookstores now :-/

[Spiker]

How was the route they took with the explorers in the movie?

- Visitors Center
- Gate
- Dilophosaurus
- T-Rex
- Triceratops
- T-Rex Paddock again (then stuck)

When looking at the map that really does not makes sense... it is just not working.

[Martin McFly]

What is the code to enter restricted areas?
try to everything you mentioned in the film,
does not work.

http://posterous.com/getfile/files.posterous.com/jamesfurey/qAkvxygGdAhgorgggrppGqzlFqrBtbdBkDfbErnsixdHexuvCw IxyboFyjwB/media_httpwwwgifninja_Clwwb.gif

"Ah, ah, ah... you didn't say the magic word!"

[Clord]

Everyone missed a feature. Will we see the Jurassic Park Tennis?

Why not Stealth Bastard The Velociraptor Edition?

http://www.stealthbastard.com/

[xbskid]

When looking at the map that really does not makes sense... it is just not working.

A lot of things don't make sense, like the route, Sam Jackson not swearing, the cliff that suddenly appeared where the T-Rex paddock was not moments before, Nedry not knowing what a defroster is, and so on. It's a work of fiction; you can't exactly expect it to line up with reality.

[Spiker]

A lot of things don't make sense, like the route, Sam Jackson not swearing, the cliff that suddenly appeared where the T-Rex paddock was not moments before, Nedry not knowing what a defroster is, and so on. It's a work of fiction; you can't exactly expect it to line up with reality.

Your are right, but the map seems to be done after the movie and then it would have been no problem to make it match to the film.

[Shadowknight1]

Your are right, but the map seems to be done after the movie and then it would have been no problem to make it match to the film.

Well, the kicker here is that they based their tour map on the brochure map from the film, which isn't much accurate anyways. Honestly, just enjoy it for what it is and try not to think too hard about it.

[DeaLynHer]

I dont get it.
In the game episode one my girl wont pick up the access passes i press LB like it says and she reaches for them but wont pick them up. what do i do?

[Laserschwert]

I dont get it.
In the game episode one my girl wont pick up the access passes i press LB like it says and she reaches for them but wont pick them up. what do i do?
Sounds like it should be even more movie and even less game for you...

[Sinaz20]

I dont get it.
In the game episode one my girl wont pick up the access passes i press LB like it says and she reaches for them but wont pick them up. what do i do?

If you find that you are stuck on a particular task, continue to explore the environment. It's not a bug-- you're just facing a bit of a puzzle. Don't fixate-- back up and look around.

[kmmgreen5]

>cant get chapter 2 to work
>all my sadness

;w;

[CaMa85]

The tour on the website is very nice.
The presentation of the dinosaurs gives the feeling it are fabulous animals instead of an extinct monster.
Also the Sounds of Jurassic Park are great. I can have them on for a long time without getting them bored.:D

Great job, Telltale!

[Irishmile]

Having played the game all the way through .. I would just like to say the JP website tour really added to my enjoyment when I finally played the game...

[Dr.Dino]

I was wondering why some dinosaur's facts diverge from Dr. Sorkin's notes and the island tour, like the raptors being acknowledged as Deinonychus in the latter while mutated Velociraptor in the foremost or Dilophosaurus small size/juveniles subject. Any special reason why?

[Shadowknight1]

I was wondering why some dinosaur's facts diverge from Dr. Sorkin's notes and the island tour, like the raptors being acknowledged as Deinonychus in the latter while mutated Velociraptor in the foremost or Dilophosaurus small size/juveniles subject. Any special reason why?

The raptors were never referred to as Deinonychus on the Island Tour.

And likely we're supposed to see this tour as something InGen might have cooked up and we can already glean from Sorkin's notes that InGen's biogeneticists weren't exactly willing to fess up to their screw-ups. So, they'd try to gloss over the Dilo's small size by saying it's a juvenile.

[Dr.Dino]

The raptors were never referred to as Deinonychus on the Island Tour.

They aren't actually referred to Deinonychus by name but much of the text is referring to such genus.

And likely we're supposed to see this tour as something InGen might have cooked up and we can already glean from Sorkin's notes that InGen's biogeneticists weren't exactly willing to fess up to their screw-ups. So, they'd try to gloss over the Dilo's small size by saying it's a juvenile.

That doesn't necessarily work since there are things in it that the public shouldn't know.

[Shadowknight1]

They aren't actually referred to Deinonychus by name but much of the text is referring to such genus.



That doesn't necessarily work since there are things in it that the public shouldn't know.

I don't see how it refers to Deinonychus at all.

And the public wouldn't know the magic word. ;) All in all, it's just supposed to be a fun thing that was supposed to hold us over until the game came out.