Telltale damages the JP jeep they borrowed

[WARP10CK]

According to the neogaf/something aweful´s forums Telltale apperantly has borrowed the JP jeep, and the man that let Telltale borrow it are not to happy about it´s condition right now.

The link under sends you to neogaf forums with pictures before and after.
I respect you as game designers telltale but I am not lending you my car.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=451954

[baron_calamity]

I really hope whoever screwed up owns up to it and fixes this.

[Faceslasher]

My old Jeep in the garage has a bunch of scratches and bumps from when my dad used to ride up the hills of Lake Travis. Jeep's scratch easy, bet the driver really wanted to test the power of a Jeep.

[RAnthonyMahan]

Hmm...were the guests at PAX allowed to touch/ride the Jeep? Because there were tons of people messing around with the DeLorean when Telltale had that on display, and there was apparently no problem. Just seems a little strange to me.

Still, definitely sucks to be that guy. I hope he gets some kind of compensation.

[Emberage]

It seems as though a lot of users on Reddit are up in arms over this; http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/ . Lots of people canceling pre-orders, choosing not to purchase the game, etc. I hope the Telltale gang does the right thing in all this. It sounds like the owner of the jeep was just lending it out of the kindness of his heart.

[ZoboHero]

The Something Awful thread can be found here:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3449116

Stay classy, TellTale.

[angry_customer]

Saw the Reddit thread. I too will hold off buying the game until I see some resolution here. I mean, the guy clearly loves the JP franchise and is a fan of TellTale games. He basically did the company a favor and now, because they're a classic giant, uncaring company, they're saying go screw yourself.

Step up and show a fan a little love. Turn it into some good PR spin right as the release of the game comes out. Will be free publicity. C'mon TellTale do the right thing!

[moosemonkey]

I wanted to get this game, but after hearing how they treated someone who lent them something in trust, I don't want to see how they treat customers. I will not be ordering this game.

[Fealiks]

(Merged here from another thread)

Come on, Telltale. You know what I'm talking about.

Apparently, this guy trusted his Jurassic Park replica Jeep to Telltale for them to show off during the promotion of the Jurassic Park game. He's now on the front page of Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/) lamenting the fact that his Jeep was damaged and that Telltale refused to pay for it. Why? Come on, he helped you out. He didn't have to let you borrow his Jeep. You're breaking his balls.

Here are some before/after photos:

Before:

(Link to large image) (http://i.imgur.com/DdgnO.jpg)
(Link to large image) (http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg)

After:

http://i.imgur.com/gqadPl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NWS7R.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NUAYB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NxQK5.jpg

As you can see, the damage isn't the worst it could possibly be, but this guy used to own a pristine Jurassic Park Jeep and now he doesn't.

I feel like Telltale is being the "big corporation" here, and that doesn't seem like them at all. And not to use a cliché or sound threatening at all, but I'm sure the thousands of people who've seen this now probably don't have a very good opinion of Telltale now either. It'd be great to see this being addressed by someone here at the forums, and I'd hope I speak for everyone here when I say it'd be nice to see him reimbursed for his troubles and not given the cold shoulder.

[anthoto1]

They already wrecked the JP franchise with this awful interactive movie, why not wrecking a jeep too ?

[piccobello]

Creepy story. Though, I am wondering why this story is made public just one day before the release. The PAX was held in the end of August. Even with transportation it could have been made public in mid september...

seems a bit suspect to me

[atm153]

Sucks. Hopefully Telltale can help this guy out.

[Emberage]

Creepy story. Though, I am wondering why this story is made public just one day before the release. The PAX was held in the end of August. Even with transportation it could have been made public in mid september...

seems a bit suspect to me


From what the reddit thread says, the owner had been trying, for two months, to get some closure to this, with little or no help on the matter. It seems like bringing it to light on the internet is his last attempt, bringing to light the matter and airing telltale's 'dirty laundry.' Suffice to say, it seems to be working. People lending their support and showing their displeasure with their wallets. Of course, they may just be saying "I'll never purchase the game now!" We all know how internet boycotts tend to crumple in upon themselves.

[corruptbiggins]

The timing of this is suspicious to me what with the release of the game being tomorrow, yet PAX happened in August.

Also, the photos need resizing as they're messing up the thread size.

[SeanJP]

i dont care whats happening right now with this siuation all i know is i have been waiting an eternity for a jp game and tomorrow i get it so telltale u atleast have one customer. tanks telltale

[Joetown17]

I made this account specifically to post about this.

I am never going to buy anything from Tale Tale Games after hearing about this. Absolutely shameful.

[WARP10CK]

Weird first this thread is deleted i get an explanation from the mod that I fully understand.
And now it´s back up again ??

[Fealiks]

The timing of this is suspicious to me what with the release of the game being tomorrow, yet PAX happened in August.

Also, the photos need resizing as they're messing up the thread size.
It happened in August, according to the guy. I'm not entirely sure why he's just posted about it on Reddit; it probably didn't occur to him before.

Also, here are some random comments from the Reddit thread that I came across:

ResoL101 3 points 14 minutes ago
Order:Cancelled. Time to go get a good book..any recommendations?

AyeGee 1 point 13 minutes ago
BOYCOTT!

CastorTroyMX 1 point 8 minutes ago
I was on the fence about buying the game, but definitely count me out. You got screwed, bro.

ueoiai 1 point 6 minutes ago
Screw everything about that. I am hence boycotting and officially retracting the recommendations I have given friends regarding TellTale games.

johnjay 1 point 1 hour ago
Sweet Jeep! I'll boycott the game till this is resolved.


jutct 2 points 22 minutes ago
Fuck that bullshit. I'm not buying any of their games, and I'll make sure my buddies don't, either.


If a cheque isn't already in the mail, then I'm not sure why not... it seems like they'll lose more money by NOT reimbursing him at this point.

[coolsome]

Weird first this thread is deleted i get an explanation from the mod that I fully understand.
And now it´s back up again ??

I guess "the man" can't silence protest!

[Tyrannosaur87]

Make that two customers. I do hope telltale owns up and fixes this but I'm not buying all the outrage about this. Yes telltale us at fault but in the end stuff happens. If I were in Boomerjinks's shoes I'd br just as upset about it but I'm not gonna throw up my hands and say I'm not buying this game just because that happened.

[T002Tyrant]

Sorry but I'm still going to buy this game and every telltale game..... The guy has now got his publicity, telltale should pay for damages, end of story... But I'm still not losing out on playing this awesome game for someone else's Jeep. I admit it's completely selfish of me, but fuck it, I'll be punching raptors tomorrow

[Flawless02]

LOL if I was the guy lol I would take it to Judge Judy

[coolsome]

There's a big difference between people saying they are boycotting and actually are.

[WARP10CK]

I posted this becaues I thought it was interesting story I have preordered and I am still looking forward to playing the game, and this instant hate against Telltale is sad.

[Tyrannosaur87]

I posted this becaues I thought it was interesting story I have preordered and I am still looking forward to playing the game, and this instant hate against Telltale is sad.

Agreed 100%

[Sindex]

I love internet hypocrisy instead of getting the full story since all they do is become the judge, jury, and executioner. We might as well be living with “Salem Witch Trials” from the fifteenth century. I want to see what tell-tale has to say before leaping to conclusions.

Oh, and look at the new posters who are saying they are canceling their game today; are probably from Reddit. Look at their joining date (Nov 2011). They probably never pre-ordered in the first place.

[Sebino]

One word : Bullshit.

[cme550]

I'm still buying the game as well. This jeep incident is between the owner and TellTale, not us. Buy the game, enjoy the game and let them work it out themselves.

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

Dear TellTale,

I hope this is worth all the bad publicity. It will cost you more to deal with this than simply just paying for the damages that you are responsible for. You know you are wrong, and I for one, will NEVER ... and I mean NEVER buy anything, that has anything to do with your company ever again. No games, items, memoribilia, sound tracks, dvds, promotional items ... NOTHING.

I canceled my pre-order, I will not buy this game. I will not buy any other game you produce. I hope the world follows suit.

Looks like they are ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/

Welcome to the digital age you turds.

[TP3D]

Yeah, haha I wouldn't cancel a preorder over this. Anyone who was really planning on buying the game wouldn't cancel either. These boycotters are full of it, HIGHLY doubt they were going to get the game in the first place.

[TP3D]

Dear TellTale,

I hope this is worth all the bad publicity. It will cost you more to deal with this than simply just paying for the damages that you are responsible for. You know you are wrong, and I for one, will NEVER ... and I mean NEVER buy anything, that has anything to do with your company ever again. No games, items, memoribilia, sound tracks, dvds, promotional items ... NOTHING.

I canceled my pre-order, I will not buy this game. I will not buy any other game you produce. I hope the world follows suit.

Looks like they are ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/


Welcome to the digital age you turds.

Nice one bro, did you join just to say that? All that info was what we were just talking about, you just reposted it. Hope you get deleted.

[piccobello]

I posted this becaues I thought it was interesting story I have preordered and I am still looking forward to playing the game, and this instant hate against Telltale is sad.

Agreed 100%

+1



WTF is up with all these first-time-posters and their fake pre-orders?
I smell a sh*t-storm coming over Isla Nublar. Stop this, sigh.

[TP3D]

Its very very suspect, the timing of this. And I'm pretty sure we've got one person joining to forum over and over and posting hate.

[mannyguy1]

I do believe this guy should be paid for the damages to his car. I'm probably not going to lose sleep over this or cancel my preorder however.

It seems like the timing is just based on the fact that this guy feels it will make more of an impact a day before release. ALTHOUGH. I did hear something about this case a month or so ago..so this is nothing new.

[coolsome]

Its very very suspect, the timing of this. And I'm pretty sure we've got one person joining to forum over and over and posting hate.

Proboly Hamza again.

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

Its very very suspect, the timing of this. And I'm pretty sure we've got one person joining to forum over and over and posting hate.

You have no idea what you are dealing with. Thousands of people are joining not just one. Why? Because TellTale is screwing over a customer. If they are willing to screw over one, they are willing to screw them all.

TellTale should do what is right and stop being scumbags.

The way you speak to everyone and the way you are completely nonchalant about the entire things makes me think you work for them.

[TP3D]

Also, if I had a JP jeep I wouldn't let ANYONE borrow it, no matter how much they bribed me! haha

[T002Tyrant]

It's too suspicious if you ask me. This could be anyone's Jeep, and why didn't this person joining the telltale forums when he got the Jeep back to complain. Telltale covered the event on video, and running a business of my own, you should photograph all equipment before and after rental. Not only that but telltale's insurance would easily cover damages, and the legal department would have been on this like a pack of wolves. I know mine would.

I think this could be an attempt to tarnish telltale's name. Either that or telltale's legal team are incompetent.

[JurassicPark Fan]

I saw a video on YouTube of the guy driving it into Pax so people where probably touching it.

[Tyrannosaur87]

Possibly. Its getting to ridiculous levels already. Yeah it sucks but its not really that big a deal and its really nobody's business but telltale's and the owner's. In the end I feel telltale will do the right thing and this will all be an afterthought. Til then, sit back and enjoy the ignorance that is the internet, folks!

[matan]

I trust Telltale far more then I trust this guy. The whole story seems iffy, especially with the timing just before the game launch.

By the way, Kevin Bruner posted on the reddit thread (under the username 'kevbru') saying the guy didn't even try to contact him.

[WARP10CK]

*snip*

Ok PLEASE MODERATORS CLOSE THIS THREAD NOW !!!!
Sorry for creating it in the first place

[TP3D]

*snip*

several tens of thousands? How many is that?

Where is the IGN story? The kotaku? Where is all the information you are talking about?

[Vainamoinen]

No personal insults in here. I mean it.

[piccobello]

TellTale should do what is right and stop being scumbags.

The way you speak to everyone and the way you are completely nonchalant about the entire things makes me think you work for them.

The way you speak makes me guess you enjoyed minor education.

[piccobello]

Hammond is actually Alan Grant's father.

Nooooooooooooooooooooo! :D

[coolsome]

*snip*

Mods you are going to banhammer him for that right? That's a disgusting thing to say.

[divisionten]

Seriously, guys. NO PERSONAL INSULTS. I know you can all discuss this rationally.

Thank you.

[T002Tyrant]

*snip*

Dude do you know what you said? you're willing, no wishing to sentence someone to an agonising death over their opinion that you're a dick? You've got the mind and mouth of a 12 year old. Either that or you should really get psychiatric help.Think before you replay to someone.

Seriously, grow the fuck up and get your point across intellectuality or stay out of the fucking gene pool.

If you've got a valid point to make and ABSOLUTE proof that that Jeep is indeed the same Jeep telltale used, AND have an intelligent way of putting forward your opinion then state your case without the use of schoolyard tactics.

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

Yeah ... keep sending me PM's TP3D ... it makes you a real tough guy ... watch out everyone we have a bad ass over here ... he hides behind a keyboard and talks a big game ... wooooooo shake in those boots!

[divisionten]

Guys, this is my last warning. I want BOTH SIDES of this argument to stay civil. No name calling. You CAN have and express an opinion without resorting to personal attacks.

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

If you've got a valid point to make and ABSOLUTE proof that that Jeep is indeed the same Jeep telltale used, AND have an intelligent way of putting forward your opinion then state your case without the use of schoolyard tactics.

Here you go.

MASTER LINK TO THIS CONTROVERSY: [1] http://www.jurassicjeep.com/

Please share it with any gaming blogs or sites that you choose. Joystiq and Kotaku are appreciated.

[2] http://www.facebook.com/telltalegames

[3] pr@telltalegames.com

So I've got this JP Jeep, right? [4] http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg

Earlier this summer I was contacted by a representative from TellTale Games.They informed me that they were developing a Jurassic Park adventure title for multiple platforms and were looking for a JP Jeep that they could use in a promotional booth at a Seattle gaming convention called PAX in August.

Last year they had produced a Back to the Future game and used the DeLorean that belongs to a acquaintance of mine. As I was unsure how to respond, I contacted my DeLorean owner friend and asked him what kind of deal they approached him with. He said he asked TellTale for insured, enclosed transport -both ways- for his car, airfare, hotel, con passes, and daily per diem. He also received several grand from them for the use of the car alone.

So I was all like "That sounds terrific! If you provide enclosed, insured shipping both ways, airfare, badges for the con, hotel, and per diem then you've got yourself a deal!"

They were pretty appreciative of me providing the Jeep to them for free, so they booked transport for my Jeep and we were on our way.

The morning of the pickup I walked aaaaaaall the way around my Jeep and took quite a few pictures of the condition I gave it to them in. Like these:

[5] http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg [RES ignored duplicate image]

[6] http://i.imgur.com/DdgnO.jpg

Then I was off to meet the enclosed transport! Except the transport showed up and was NOT enclosed! I could have been a dick and said, "No dice, friends" and not given them the Jeep. But unfortunately I'm not a dick.

The Jeep goes on it's way and I fly out a week later. The Jeep was delivered that morning and signed for by one TellTale's employees, a self-professed "person who doesn't know anything about cars and in fact does not even own a car!"

Here's what I saw during my walkaround. [7] http://i.imgur.com/gqadPl.jpg

[8] http://i.imgur.com/NWS7R.jpg

[9] http://i.imgur.com/NUAYB.jpg

[10] http://i.imgur.com/NxQK5.jpg

[11] http://i.imgur.com/EEX6M.jpg

After the walkaround, and before the convention, I talk to the guys at TellTale, among them Kevin Bruner, the company's CEO. I tell them, "Look I could be "that guy" and throw a fit, threatening to take my Jeep out of here tonight unless you cut me a check right now, but I know this is a huge fuckinging weekend for you guys, that you need to promote your game and you've gone a ton of shit to worry about. So, we can but this on a back burner until the expo is over, but I'd like your word that you'll take care of this immediately afterwards." They were pretty appreciative, and even though I received no per diem or additional badges, I decided to not be a dick about things.

Then the Jeep came home, I didn't hear from TellTale. A week later I reached out to them, and it was a few more days before they got back to me, telling me that I'd have to file a claim with the auto transport company (Advance Car Carrier Corp.). I told them that I did not arrange for the transportation, and that I should not have to be the middleman. They insist that they are not responsible for the damage in any way, and that only the car owner can file a claim.

So I send all my claim information (scanned receipts and delivery invoices, before and after photos) to the car carrier, and they reply with:

"We have completed our assessment of the above loss and have determined that this is not car carrier damage. After carefully reviewing the damage pictures that you have sent to us, we found that all the damages was noted on the Bill of Lading before transporting your vehicle. Also please note that vehicle was inspected in rain and possible that not all the damages were visible. For that reason the box, where it says that vehicle going ASIS was marked.

Enclosed with this letter is a copy of the Bill of Lading signed by "xxxx" on August 30, 2011 in where was noted that vehicle had pre-existing damages before transporting from WA to CO."

Now, the damage was done on the way TO Seattle, not FROM. And here's a photo of it "raining" while they loaded up my Jeep. [12] http://i.imgur.com/IQLaK.jpg Sure is hard to see stuff with all that rain!

So TellTale hired the sketchiest-possible carrier company, and then one of TellTale's employees(who admitted she doesn't know the first thing about cars) signed the bill of lading upon delivery without inspecting the Jeep for damage, thereby releasing the car carrier from responsibility.

I'm disputing their decision, but I have the sinking feeling that I am going to be one of those cases that is just ignored until I go away. Bullshit man.

I guess my lesson is "next time get stuff in writing and be a big dick about everything."

I haven't heard from TellTale in months regarding this issue, it seems to be resolved as far as they are concerned. Now, the Jurassic Park game is set to be launched this week. I don't really know if there's anything I can do, but it seems like if there was ever a time for visibility on this problem, it's now.

[TP3D]

Rationale wins again!

[WARP10CK]

Jeez whats wrong with you people signing up just to bash people, I thought we who have been on these forums a while might talk about it like sane people.
Don´t you joined november 2011 posters have anything better to do ??

[Icedhope]

Yeah ... keep sending me PM's TP3D ... it makes you a real tough guy ... watch out everyone we have a bad ass over here ... he hides behind a keyboard and talks a big game ... wooooooo shake in those boots!

Your done here. I can understand being upset over the issue and wanting to right things but being a jerk about it isn't helping the situations.

[mightypiratetm]

I'm surprised you haven't banned this troll yet.

[Tebeku]

Yeah ... keep sending me PM's TP3D ... it makes you a real tough guy ... watch out everyone we have a bad ass over here ... he hides behind a keyboard and talks a big game ... wooooooo shake in those boots!

Aren't you also just hiding behind a keyboard?

Anyways, I won't side in this matter until I hear an official statement from Telltale.

[T002Tyrant]

Here you go.

MASTER LINK TO THIS CONTROVERSY: [1] http://www.jurassicjeep.com/

Please share it with any gaming blogs or sites that you choose. Joystiq and Kotaku are appreciated.

[2] http://www.facebook.com/telltalegames

[3] pr@telltalegames.com

So I've got this JP Jeep, right? [4] http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg

Earlier this summer I was contacted by a representative from TellTale Games.They informed me that they were developing a Jurassic Park adventure title for multiple platforms and were looking for a JP Jeep that they could use in a promotional booth at a Seattle gaming convention called PAX in August.

Last year they had produced a Back to the Future game and used the DeLorean that belongs to a acquaintance of mine. As I was unsure how to respond, I contacted my DeLorean owner friend and asked him what kind of deal they approached him with. He said he asked TellTale for insured, enclosed transport -both ways- for his car, airfare, hotel, con passes, and daily per diem. He also received several grand from them for the use of the car alone.

So I was all like "That sounds terrific! If you provide enclosed, insured shipping both ways, airfare, badges for the con, hotel, and per diem then you've got yourself a deal!"

They were pretty appreciative of me providing the Jeep to them for free, so they booked transport for my Jeep and we were on our way.

The morning of the pickup I walked aaaaaaall the way around my Jeep and took quite a few pictures of the condition I gave it to them in. Like these:

[5] http://i.imgur.com/K9Xcd.jpg [RES ignored duplicate image]

[6] http://i.imgur.com/DdgnO.jpg

Then I was off to meet the enclosed transport! Except the transport showed up and was NOT enclosed! I could have been a dick and said, "No dice, friends" and not given them the Jeep. But unfortunately I'm not a dick.

The Jeep goes on it's way and I fly out a week later. The Jeep was delivered that morning and signed for by one TellTale's employees, a self-professed "person who doesn't know anything about cars and in fact does not even own a car!"

Here's what I saw during my walkaround. [7] http://i.imgur.com/gqadPl.jpg

[8] http://i.imgur.com/NWS7R.jpg

[9] http://i.imgur.com/NUAYB.jpg

[10] http://i.imgur.com/NxQK5.jpg

[11] http://i.imgur.com/EEX6M.jpg

After the walkaround, and before the convention, I talk to the guys at TellTale, among them Kevin Bruner, the company's CEO. I tell them, "Look I could be "that guy" and throw a fit, threatening to take my Jeep out of here tonight unless you cut me a check right now, but I know this is a huge fuckinging weekend for you guys, that you need to promote your game and you've gone a ton of shit to worry about. So, we can but this on a back burner until the expo is over, but I'd like your word that you'll take care of this immediately afterwards." They were pretty appreciative, and even though I received no per diem or additional badges, I decided to not be a dick about things.

Then the Jeep came home, I didn't hear from TellTale. A week later I reached out to them, and it was a few more days before they got back to me, telling me that I'd have to file a claim with the auto transport company (Advance Car Carrier Corp.). I told them that I did not arrange for the transportation, and that I should not have to be the middleman. They insist that they are not responsible for the damage in any way, and that only the car owner can file a claim.

So I send all my claim information (scanned receipts and delivery invoices, before and after photos) to the car carrier, and they reply with:

"We have completed our assessment of the above loss and have determined that this is not car carrier damage. After carefully reviewing the damage pictures that you have sent to us, we found that all the damages was noted on the Bill of Lading before transporting your vehicle. Also please note that vehicle was inspected in rain and possible that not all the damages were visible. For that reason the box, where it says that vehicle going ASIS was marked.

Enclosed with this letter is a copy of the Bill of Lading signed by "xxxx" on August 30, 2011 in where was noted that vehicle had pre-existing damages before transporting from WA to CO."

Now, the damage was done on the way TO Seattle, not FROM. And here's a photo of it "raining" while they loaded up my Jeep. [12] http://i.imgur.com/IQLaK.jpg Sure is hard to see stuff with all that rain!

So TellTale hired the sketchiest-possible carrier company, and then one of TellTale's employees(who admitted she doesn't know the first thing about cars) signed the bill of lading upon delivery without inspecting the Jeep for damage, thereby releasing the car carrier from responsibility.

I'm disputing their decision, but I have the sinking feeling that I am going to be one of those cases that is just ignored until I go away. Bullshit man.

I guess my lesson is "next time get stuff in writing and be a big dick about everything."

I haven't heard from TellTale in months regarding this issue, it seems to be resolved as far as they are concerned. Now, the Jurassic Park game is set to be launched this week. I don't really know if there's anything I can do, but it seems like if there was ever a time for visibility on this problem, it's now.

That's better, thank you

[TP3D]

I would also like to see all the major news game/consumer site's stories on this that were indicated.

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

If I am wrong because he keeps sending me childish PMs you people need some serious help.

Here I will post this again ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/

I love how none of you have anything to say about the fact that TellTale is screwing this guy over. Just launching personal attacks towards anyone who is on his side. It is really laughable but pathetic at the same time.

Damnation to any who oppose the great TellTale and their lackey TP3D!!! LMFAO

[coolsome]

Yeah ... keep sending me PM's TP3D ... it makes you a real tough guy ... watch out everyone we have a bad ass over here ... he hides behind a keyboard and talks a big game ... wooooooo shake in those boots!

http://sarcasmmeter.net/sarcasm_detector.jpg

[Emberage]

Hrm, I was hoping posting on the forums would just bring to Telltale's attention that people were unhappy with the way the jeep's owner was treated... I hope my posting directing to Reddit wasn't cause for all this anger.

My point was that I believe Telltale should pay for the damages of the car, nothing more. I personally wasn't interested in purchasing JP, but I've been a long time fan of Telltale's works, and always touted their games. I just hope this doesn't besmirch the company in any way; normally Telltale is spoken of well on r/gaming.

[mightypiratetm]

If I am wrong because he keeps sending me childish PMs you people need some serious help.

Here I will post this again ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/

I love how none of you have anything to say about the fact that TellTale is screwing this guy over. Just launching personal attacks towards anyone who is on his side. It is really laughable but pathetic at the same time.

Damnation to any who oppose the great TellTale and their lackey TP3D!!! LMFAO
Can't you make your point without insulting people? Besides, this article was probably created to boycott the release of the game

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

Here you go ... another site DEDICATED to it lol

http://www.jurassicjeep.com/jeep-18/tell-tale-games-damaged-our-jeep-and-refuses-to-pay-for-it/

[divisionten]

Thank you for keeping the discussion civil.

[mightypiratetm]

Telltale hasn't said anything about this yet, so that article might be fake.

[T002Tyrant]

If I am wrong because he keeps sending me childish PMs you people need some serious help.

Here I will post this again ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/

I love how none of you have anything to say about the fact that TellTale is screwing this guy over. Just launching personal attacks towards anyone who is on his side. It is really laughable but pathetic at the same time.

Damnation to any who oppose the great TellTale and their lackey TP3D!!! LMFAO

Really if it is true, the main people to blame are Telltale's legal department. In basic procedure they should have made a report to head office, inspected the damage for themselves, compared photos, and if it's proven automatically get the liability insurance to cover damages. This should be automatic practice for a large company. Then the head office can decide if they want to further compensate said claimer.

[Sindex]

Jeez whats wrong with you people signing up just to bash people, I thought we who have been on these forums a while might talk about it like sane people.
Don´t you joined november 2011 posters have anything better to do ??

You’re talking about the internet and how mature it can possibly at times. I mean the trolls, the hackers, and the self-righteous imbeciles. I know it’s no excuse, but still this thread will closed down (it’s inevitable). Also I am willing to be patient instead of jumping to conclusions.

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

Telltale hasn't said anything about this yet, so that article might be fake.

Kevin Bruner responded directly on reddit - claiming that the owner of the jeep had his contact info ... doesn't Kevin remember talking to him at PAX? Doesn't Kevin have the owner's contact info? Seems like the owner has been trying to contact him and get TellTale to take care of it and was pushed off by TellTale with a scummy move about filing a claim himself even though he didn't hire the transportation company ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/c2zqr3d?context=3

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

Trending on Twitter now

https://twitter.com/#!/search/telltale%20jurassic

https://twitter.com/#!/search/telltale

https://twitter.com/#!/search/telltale%20jeep

[veki]

I am buying this game, and it will be awesome...tnx u Telltale once again...fullstop :)

[mightypiratetm]

Kevin Bruner responded directly on reddit - claiming that the owner of the jeep had his contact info ... doesn't Kevin remember talking to him at PAX? Doesn't Kevin have the owner's contact info? Seems like the owner has been trying to contact him and get TellTale to take care of it and was pushed off by TellTale with a scummy move about filing a claim himself even though he didn't hire the transportation company ...

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/c2zqr3d?context=3
Or this guy saw this as an opportunity to boycott the release of the game by claiming that they damaged his jeep.

[Silverwolfpet]

Please do not double post. Thank you.

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

Or this guy saw this as an opportunity to boycott the release of the game by claiming that they damaged his jeep.

So he faked the pictures somehow?

[coolsome]

Or this guy saw this as an opportunity to boycott the release of the game by claiming that they damaged his jeep.

That seems like a weird thing to do. What would his motivation be?

[T002Tyrant]

Ok if this is true, I do feel sorry for the guy, I really do. I hope he wins said lawsuit. BUT it isn't going to stop me from buying telltale's games. It's not the games developer's fault that their legal department are scummy. Also I'm too much a fan of Jurassic Park, and nothing will get in my way of playing it....nothing.....

[TP3D]

Ok if this is true, I do feel sorry for the guy, but it isn't going to stop me from buying telltale's games. It's not the games developer's fault that their legal department are scummy. Also I'm too much a fan of Jurassic Park, and nothing will get in my way of playing it....nothing.....

What if I told you that the dinosaurs talk to you in the game? Would that get in the way? ;)

[mightypiratetm]

That seems like a weird thing to do. What would his motivation be?
He probably hates reboots, remember what happened when Skylanders was announced? Tons of butthurt Spyro fans sent death threats to activision to prevent its release

[FixTheJeep]

TellTale Y U NO FIX JEEP!?!

[Dr.Dino]

I really can't see why this was even turned public, at least before it was settled between the two parties involved since this only matters to Telltale and the jeep's owner and only them. This is a matter that should be discussed in particular and not all through the internet.

Whether or not Telltale doesn't take responsibility for the jeep's damage it's not anyone business besides the jeep's owner. Boycotting this in the internet make you lose all the reason you might have at first, really.

[mightypiratetm]

telltale y u no fix jeep!?!
y u come here to hate?

[Fealiks]

Honestly, I can't see it being a "made up" story just to incite a mass boycott, but I think everyone needs to keep a level head.

Firstly, to the boycotters, don't write off the possibility that this was all down to misunderstanding. And even if that wasn't the case, it's not like Telltale took a staff vote of "should we fuck this guy over?" and it came up with a resounding "yes". If this is down to someone being a dick, it's more than likely just one, perhaps two, people. The months of hard work by the team that worked on this game should not be boycotted because of the bad actions of one or two individuals. For all you know, the majority of Telltale staff could agree with you. If this is the case, they probably aren't going to risk their jobs by being outspoken about it.

Secondly, to everyone else, just because we agree that the boycott is wrong doesn't make it impertinent. This is still a matter that demands attention; if a large number of sales are lost over this, then that's a bad thing for Telltale, which means it's a bad thing for the fans. I don't think that this issue should be buried or left unaddressed. I don't agree with the cause, but neither do I agree with being unappreciative of the consequences.

[coolsome]

He probably hates reboots, remember what happened when Skylanders was announced? Tons of butthurt Spyro fans sent death threats to activision to prevent its release

So planed to lend TTG a Jeep just to then damaged it and ruin there game? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosRoulette)

[Emberage]

He probably hates reboots, remember what happened when Skylanders was announced? Tons of butthurt Spyro fans sent death threats to activision to prevent its release

Wait... a man who made his own replica of of a Jurassic Park jeep... and lent it to Telltale for the upcoming game... hates the reboot of a Jurassic Park game? Are you saying that this was an elaborate plan of his to lend his car, damage it himself, then whip up some sympathy on the internet in order to hurt the sales of a game? Seems a stretch.

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

So planed to lend TTG a Jeep just to then damaged it and ruin there game? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit)


TellTale isn't gaining anything from this. They are taking a huge hit on PR.

[FixTheJeep]

The reason it was turned public was because the owner wasn't getting an cooperation with Telltale and felt like he wanted the injustice against him to be known. If I was in a similar situation I would want everyone to know how poorly I've been treated by a company I was kind enough to help.

[coolsome]

Wait... a man who made his own replica of of a Jurassic Park jeep... and lent it to Telltale for the upcoming game... hates the reboot of a Jurassic Park game? Are you saying that this was an elaborate plan of his to lend his car, damage it himself, then whip up some sympathy on the internet in order to hurt the sales of a game? Seems a stretch.

David Xanatos would be proud of that plan!

[jpark_08]

I still have the free game coupon! I can boycott and still play the game! MUahahahhaha

[Laphin]

TellTale should just be a respectable company enough to reimburse this guy for that trouble. They are losing more money in their sales from customers knowing the base fact that they are so shady about handling this matter.

This is terrible, right upon their release date too. I love Jurassic Park, but this incident alone is enough to ruin the entire thing they were trying to achieve at PAX, marketing the game.

Telltale, bad move. And from a business stand point, making your customers happy is what earns you money. It doesn't matter how skillful yer art designers are. It doesn't matter how great yer game designers, storyboard directors are... if you don't have the revenue to pay those people i.e. your customers... yer fans.. you fail.. and yer business will falter albeit slightly.

You think this little jeep incident will slide on by if you ignore the guy and go about it in the BULLYistic legal and business fashion, but it will do nothing but backfire on you and blow up in the company's face.

This is embarassing... pay the guy 2,000 and be done with it. 2,000 is nothing in comparison to the sales you could potentially lose all together, and even more if he decides to sue you.

[coolsome]

I still have the free game coupon! I can boycott and still play the game! MUahahahhaha

I don't think you understand the spirit of boycotting.

[Laphin]

I still have the free game coupon! I can boycott and still play the game! MUahahahhaha

lol :eek:

[piccobello]

http://i.qkme.me/35aj2g.jpg

[T002Tyrant]

To lighten the mood. This is what really happened after the claim

Head of telltale: Dennis. Our lives are in your hands and you have butterfingers? That Jeep was supposed to go back in once piece!
Dennis: I am totally unappreciated in my time! We can run the whole forum from this room, with minimal staff, for up to three days. You think that kind of automation is easy? Or cheap? You know anybody who can network eight Connection Machines, de-bug two million lines of code, and deal with getting a Jeep for our promotions for what I bid this job? 'Cause if they can, I'd like to see them try!
Head of telltale: I'm sorry about your financial problems, Dennis, I really am. But they are your problems.
Dennis: You're right, John. You're absolutely right. Everything's my problem.
Head of telltale: You destroyed the Jeep! AND I will not get drawn into another financial "debate" with you, Dennis. I really will not.
Dennis: There's been hardly any debate at all.
Head of telltale: I don't blame people for their mistakes- but I do ask that they pay for them.
Dennis: Thanks, Dad.

[TP3D]

to lighten the mood. This is what really happened after the claim

head of telltale: Dennis. Our lives are in your hands and you have butterfingers? That jeep was supposed to go back in once piece!
Dennis: I am totally unappreciated in my time! We can run the whole forum from this room, with minimal staff, for up to three days. You think that kind of automation is easy? Or cheap? You know anybody who can network eight connection machines, de-bug two million lines of code, and deal with getting a jeep for our promotions for what i bid this job? 'cause if they can, i'd like to see them try!
Head of telltale: I'm sorry about your financial problems, dennis, i really am. But they are your problems.
Dennis: You're right, john. You're absolutely right. Everything's my problem.
Head of telltale: You destroyed the jeep! And i will not get drawn into another financial "debate" with you, dennis. I really will not.
Dennis: There's been hardly any debate at all.
Head of telltale: I don't blame people for their mistakes- but i do ask that they pay for them.
Dennis: Thanks, dad.

rofl

[corruptbiggins]

I have to say I rarely believe anything on the internet if there is just one source of information. Then you have the timing of it all. Colour me doubtful. I'm not saying that the Jeep didn't get accidentally damaged or anything, I'm just feeling that we're not getting the whole story here.

[FixTheJeep]

TellTale needs to have some kind of response soon or this is just going to keep escalating.

[coolsome]

TellTale needs to have some kind of response soon or this is just going to keep escalating.

I hope it does this threads fun.

[jpark_08]

http://i.imgur.com/COnnT.jpg

[kayen]

Nice guys, really nice way to treat someone

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mbydq/i_let_telltale_borrow_my_jurassic_park_jeep_and/

[TP3D]

The world's most interesting Hammond.

[lord darkstorm]

well

Should this turns out to be true - and from the evidence, t'would appear so - then I would be rather disappointed with ttg and would have to reconsider future purchases.

Obviously I await ttg's explanation, but if true....just pay the man.

[T002Tyrant]

I've found the perfect solution. If telltale not only compensate the guy, but feed their lawyer to a T-Rex while they're sitting on the toilet, will everything blow over?

[cantal]

Just a silly question regarding the jeep situation: the Reddit post was created 5 hours ago. There have been numerous emails, tweets, and forum posts informing TTG about the situation. Employees from TTG have posted on Reddit saying they are aware of the situation. I understand there are 2 sides to a story, but then why be so lackadaisical about responding? Clearly the PR manager has time to discuss Super Mario Land 3D.

From @TheAlanJohnson's Twitter:
Started playing Super Mario 3D Land this weekend and am loving it! Perfect balance of 3D and side-scrolling. What's everyone else think?

[T002Tyrant]

Just a silly question regarding the jeep situation: the Reddit post was created 5 hours ago. There have been numerous emails, tweets, and forum posts informing TTG about the situation. Employees from TTG have posted on Reddit saying they are aware of the situation. I understand there are 2 sides to a story, but then why be so lackadaisical about responding? Clearly the PR manager has time to discuss Super Mario Land 3D.

From @TheAlanJohnson's Twitter:
Started playing Super Mario 3D Land this weekend and am loving it! Perfect balance of 3D and side-scrolling. What's everyone else think?

Super Mario 3D?! Awesome!:eek:

[lord darkstorm]

I've found the perfect solution. If telltale not only compensate the guy, but feed their lawyer to a T-Rex while they're sitting on the toilet, will everything blow over?

That lawyer was the smartest guy in the film

just not

the luckiest

[coolsome]

Super Mario 3d is serious business!

[r00t4rd3d]

What a scumbag company. Who borrows someones Jeep then just doesnt give a crap on how its treated or damages done to it.

My kids will not be getting any TellTale games, ever.

I hope your company fails.

[divisionten]

Again... this is a forum for discussion, not mudslinging. Opinions are welcome ON BOTH SIDES, insults are not tolerated. Thank you.

[T002Tyrant]

What a scumbag company. Who borrows someones Jeep then just doesnt give a crap on how its treated or damages done to it.

My kids will not be getting any TellTale games, ever.

I hope your company fails.

I like how people call telltale a scumbag company when they don't pay someone damages. But wont boycott companies like Nike who are associated with sweatshops and child labour. Want to make a real difference? Don't buy your kids Nike trainers or buy Coca-Cola.

Also I think the bigger crime is Activision for making Modern Warfare 3.

[Laphin]

To lighten the mood. This is what really happened after the claim

Head of telltale: Dennis. Our lives are in your hands and you have butterfingers? That Jeep was supposed to go back in once piece!
Dennis: I am totally unappreciated in my time! We can run the whole forum from this room, with minimal staff, for up to three days. You think that kind of automation is easy? Or cheap? You know anybody who can network eight Connection Machines, de-bug two million lines of code, and deal with getting a Jeep for our promotions for what I bid this job? 'Cause if they can, I'd like to see them try!
Head of telltale: I'm sorry about your financial problems, Dennis, I really am. But they are your problems.
Dennis: You're right, John. You're absolutely right. Everything's my problem.
Head of telltale: You destroyed the Jeep! AND I will not get drawn into another financial "debate" with you, Dennis. I really will not.
Dennis: There's been hardly any debate at all.
Head of telltale: I don't blame people for their mistakes- but I do ask that they pay for them.
Dennis: Thanks, Dad.

Rage Nerd: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!! Now I want to buy the game again. :L"

[Emberage]

What a scumbag company. Who borrows someones Jeep then just doesnt give a crap on how its treated or damages done to it.

My kids will not be getting any TellTale games, ever.

I hope your company fails.

Dear lord... I realize that the internet is a land of black and white with no in between, and that includes the passion of its denizens, but that's melodramatic. This isn't a huge conspiracy, an order from the top down to sweep the wrongdoings under the rug. It's a mistake from the legal department, and with the rest of the company busy with its games in crunch time, there's nobody else to handle it. It should've been dealt with earlier, yes, but I have faith that, with this news traipsing about the internet, that Telltale will make the correct decision and pay for the damages. In the end, a 2,000 dollar bill is cheaper than angry customers.

All this enough reasoning for hoping their entire company, their livelihood, fails? I hope not.

[Faceslasher]

You do know Telltale had the car SHIPPED to Seattle by a TRAILER. No fucking shit it's gonna get damaged.

[Faceslasher]

What a scumbag company. Who borrows someones Jeep then just doesnt give a crap on how its treated or damages done to it.

My kids will not be getting any TellTale games, ever.

I hope your company fails.

I hope you go bankrupt, the tow company screwed up the jeep, not Telltale. This is currently being settled, wishing for a company to fall is sick. You're a horrible person in life.

[divisionten]

Repeating what I said earlier: no personal insults.

[Sindex]

This again is a one sided story, too many questions are left open. He could have stopped everything with the whole non-enclosed vehicle carrier. I don’t buy the whole passive aggressive thing about him not wanting to be a “prick.” I mean was there a contract drawn up before hand about what needed to be done? Did he except money way before or after the agreement? What was in the written contract, and did he sign off on it instead of reading it?

Why does he not have a lawyer? Instead he chooses the internet as a tool. You do realize when you do this you can be counter sued for defamation if the claim is false.

[coolsome]

I hope you go bankrupt, the tow company screwed up the jeep, not Telltale. This is currently being settled, wishing for a company to fall is sick. You're a horrible person in life.

And hoping someone goes bankrupt makes you any better?

[Faceslasher]

TellTale needs to have some kind of response soon or this is just going to keep escalating.

What, you will make more alts flaming the forum? I'll laugh. Go back to reddit and read the post again you... you...

Fuck it, not risking my account on some kid.

[Icedhope]

Guys can we all act like adults here please. No flaming or anything I understand you are upset, I am too. But we need to keep things at an adult level here.

[Faceslasher]

And hoping someone goes bankrupt makes you any better?

Hell he came in with pitchforks and axes, let him have his dessert.

[T002Tyrant]

Calm down everyone, let's all focus our anger on something more constructive, like hating George Lucas, there he is, get him!

[Faceslasher]

Fine, I'll calm down. It's just people get me angry very fast.

[caeska]

It seems like the car carrier company is at fault here, but situations like these are very difficult to resolve when nobody accepts the blame.

It appears that the damage happened from a strap or chain that must have come loose on the trip to Seattle, and smacked the side of the car for 2,000 miles.

When the Jeep arrived, the TellTale employees were supposed to inspect the Jeep for damage before signing for it. Apparently they did not.

So clearly, Telltale didn't cause the damage. The vehicle should have been inspected before signing off for it but it's hardly justification for blaming Telltale for this when the car carrier is the incompetent moron in this instance.
I certainly don't see the point of boycotting the game. Why should TTG admit to causing damages they apparently did not cause?

[Silverwolfpet]

No double posting, guys, please.

[divisionten]

Thank you guys for trying to keep rational discourse. I know people can get angry, but personal attacks does nobody any good.

[Icedhope]

Hell he came in with pitchforks and axes, let him have his dessert.

No that's not the way to do things...it's only going cause more trouble than it's actually worth and both parties will get screwed in the end.

[Faceslasher]

No that's not the way to do things...it's only going cause more trouble than it's actually worth and both parties will get screwed in the end.

I did say I will calm down.

Boy, I need something to shout at. Anyone got some good tips?

[lord darkstorm]

So clearly, Telltale didn't cause the damage. The vehicle should have been inspected before signing off for it but it's hardly justification for blaming Telltale for this when the car carrier is the incompetent moron in this instance.
I certainly don't see the point of boycotting the game. Why should TTG admit to causing damages they apparently did not cause?

He contends that Telltale signed that the car was ok when it was not, so TTG basically absolved the car carrier of all responsibility.

So it kinda becomes their responsibility if his statement is true.

[r00t4rd3d]

I hope you go bankrupt, the tow company screwed up the jeep, not Telltale. This is currently being settled, wishing for a company to fall is sick. You're a horrible person in life.

The verbal contract was for the jeep to be shipped in an enclosed trailer. It was not and now TTG is beating around the bush for the cost of repairs. Who is horrible ? TTG in my opinion.

[Faceslasher]

He contends that Telltale signed that the car was ok when it was not, so TTG basically absolved the car carrier of all responsibility.

So it kinda becomes their responsibility if his statement is true.

Not at all, sure they signed the car off in good condition, but there is another condition. Perfect. TellTale, all ya need to do is contact this guy and work something out. Pay plan, money, bucket of bombs, anything. We don't need ya'll to lose your reputation.

[RAnthonyMahan]

"I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY SCRATCHED THIS GUY'S JEEP EVERYBODY AT TELLTALE IS A HORRIBLE BABY-EATING MONSTER I'M NEVER GOING TO BUY THEIR GAMES AND THEN THEY'LL GO OUT OF BUSINESS AND THEM AND ALL THEIR FAMILIES WILL BECOME HOMELESS AND STARVE TO DEATH."

Jesus, and you Redditors brag about being more relaxed than 4chan. Let's go over some stuff.

Did Telltale make a mistake? Yes.
Should the Jeep owner be compensated? Yes.

Does the Jeep being damaged concern you directly? No.
Does it affect the quality of the game at all? No.
Was every single person at Telltale, from the CEO to the guy who restocks the vending machine, conspiring to screw this guy over? No. My guess is it's all the legal department and absolutely nobody involved with actual game design.
Is it possible that this whole thing is a giant misunderstanding? Yes.

I'm not trying to say that this isn't a big deal, but it's definitely not as big a deal as people think. You can be upset, but don't act like Telltale's the devil and don't wish for people's hard work to crumble to pieces.

(P.S.: Rage comics aren't funny.)

[Faceslasher]

The verbal contract was for the jeep to be shipped in an enclosed trailer. It was not and now TTG is beating around the bush for the cost of repairs. Who is horrible ? TTG in my opinion.

Or maybe the tow company, derp derp derp.

Either way, TTG is not at fault unless they don't pay. They have a deadline. Once the game released, then they can work things out.

[Emberage]

I'm not trying to say that this isn't a big deal, but it's definitely not as big a deal as people think. You can be upset, but don't act like Telltale's the devil and don't wish for people's hard work to crumble to pieces.


This is fully the case, thank you for putting it so astutely.

[mrGREEK360]

Wow. Sadly im getting the game for free because im ps plus user. I love the Jp franchise. I am looking forward to the game but for only 2000 $ damage that was their fault, they are letting this bad publicty continue? The Hardcore jp community who are the majority ofnthe people who are going to buy the game are very active on jp message boards other then here. Telltale needs to pay for repairs then if there was insurance like they said there would be then telltale needs to try to retrive the money from the insurance not the owner. When a contract is made like this the law is that the item needs to return in the relitive condition when it was loaned. A civial case thll win for the owner, because once again its telltales responibity to make sure the car is returned undamaged, and if its damaged they pay the owner then then telltale trys to get money from the insurance or suenthe insurance. For them to say its not our problem is ridicula and illegal. The legal department obviously is run by the kids of the lawyer got eaten by thetrex. If telltale doesnt do what i said imediatly then in civial lawsuit they will be liable for the damages, court fees, lawyer fees, ccompensation for any work/money lost for events lke pax. I. The end that 2000 bill will be 10000$ bill ot to mentio. Te bad publicity. I sugest going to the media with this, they. Love drama like thiss especially when the people liable are releasing products like the jp game. Contact cnn at the very least there wi ll be an article on ther website.

By tahe way if they dont pay then sue for lost work even if its a lie they could never prove otherwise thus xue for the max small claims $ which is 10000-20000 depending where you live, its a 100 % win. Telltale you guys are disgusting for not owning up and for not following the law in these situations.

[Faceslasher]

I have a feeling JP: The Game could get poor reviews because of this, it's sad really. All that hard work crumbles after someone had to ruin this guys car.

[HooblaDGN]

IF this is true (and who knows, really, whether or not it is, at this point?) then it's a disappointment and hopefully they'll make it right.

But I'm still going to play Jurassic Park: The Game and I look forward to tomorrow and receiving my deluxe edition material in the mail, and I still love Telltale.

[RaventheBlack]

You gotta be kidding me this is all the fuss is about?

Any Good qualified expert in cars or auto-repair can have those extremly minor damages fixed with the car looking back in pristine condition.

People are blowing this thread outta proportion like the car was demolished or someone got killed,chill people take a drink and chillllllllllll...like iceman.

Of course with all respect as long as the damages get paid everything should be fine.

[r00t4rd3d]

I dont see why this has gone on so long though. Get a estimate to repair the damage, TTG cuts a check. End of story. They could have killed this months ago.

Can someone from TTG explain why this is not the case ? Why it has come to this point ?

[mightypiratetm]

Why are we still arguing about this?

[mightypiratetm]

Wow. Sadly im getting the game for free because im ps plus user. I love the Jp franchise. I am looking forward to the game but for only 2000 $ damage that was their fault, they are letting this bad publicty continue? The Hardcore jp community who are the majority ofnthe people who are going to buy the game are very active on jp message boards other then here. Telltale needs to pay for repairs then if there was insurance like they said there would be then telltale needs to try to retrive the money from the insurance not the owner. When a contract is made like this the law is that the item needs to return in the relitive condition when it was loaned. A civial case thll win for the owner, because once again its telltales responibity to make sure the car is returned undamaged, and if its damaged they pay the owner then then telltale trys to get money from the insurance or suenthe insurance. For them to say its not our problem is ridicula and illegal. The legal department obviously is run by the kids of the lawyer got eaten by thetrex. If telltale doesnt do what i said imediatly then in civial lawsuit they will be liable for the damages, court fees, lawyer fees, ccompensation for any work/money lost for events lke pax. I. The end that 2000 bill will be 10000$ bill ot to mentio. Te bad publicity. I sugest going to the media with this, they. Love drama like thiss especially when the people liable are releasing products like the jp game. Contact cnn at the very least there wi ll be an article on ther website.

By tahe way if they dont pay then sue for lost work even if its a lie they could never prove otherwise thus xue for the max small claims $ which is 10000-20000 depending where you live, its a 100 % win. Telltale you guys are disgusting for not owning up and for not following the law in these situations.
Read caeska's post, Telltale didn't cause the damage, the car carrier did, therefore they don't really have to pay anything.

[Faceslasher]

Read caeska's post, Telltale didn't cause the damage, the car carrier did, therefore they don't really have to pay anything.

They do have to pay something, I don't know how much. That is if this goes to the legal team.

Now let me straighten things up,

Is Telltale REALLY at fault? Slightly

Should the game be at risk? No

Should everyone at Telltale that isn't part of this need to be insulted and told they should never get money again? No

If Gabe from Valve drove this Jeep and crashed it, would his whole team need to be insulted, told they should die, call Valve a horrible company that needs to lose profit from a bunch of redditors? Fucking NO

Should we be concerned? No

Should Reddit be concerned? No

Should the owner of the Jeep be concerned? Yes

Should the Legal team at Telltale be concerned? Yes

Should the CEO of Telltale be concerned? Probably

Are we the legal team? No

Are we the CEO? No

Then why are we caring this much? Because we wanna make this a big deal, I had my dad look at the photos and he says that this isn't a big deal. That the owner of the Jeep is making this look like somebody at Telltale was drunk and banged the car up. This is all a big mistake that will be resolved in the days ahead. Now sit back and enjoy the game when it comes out!

[veki]

to get a bit off topic here, and to make something constructive (finally)...Telltale, can u tell us when new merchandise will come to the store...I am dying to see T shirts :)

[TellTaleScrewsPeople]

Then why are we caring this much? Because we wanna make this a big deal, I had my dad look at the photos and he says that this isn't a big deal. That the owner of the Jeep is making this look like somebody at Telltale was drunk and banged the car up. This is all a big mistake that will be resolved in the days ahead. Now sit back and enjoy the game when it comes out!

Well if that is what YOUR DAD said who are we to argue.

Actually wait a minute ... first of all ... the owner of the jeep didn't say anything about anyone from TellTale being drunk and/or banging up the Jeep. He was clear and concise about what DID happen ... and whose fault it was, and how TellTale rather than resolve the issue has decided to ignore him and blame others and basically say "not our problem" in a manner of speaking.

So. That said I would suggest that your dad is not an expert on these matters. Also he may want to learn how to read things before passing such outlandish conclusions.

p.s. is your dad's name Matlock?

[Johro]

*shrugs* Leave it to the lawyers, it's the american way :)
Personally, I think making the matter public is childish and the immature way to handle things. TattleTellTaling? I do, however, agree that people should pay for damages they caused. So if it's true, nobody has handled this properly and whatever the outcome, this person didn't take the proper course of action regardless. This matter will not affect my personal opinion of products presented(are the programmers, artists, etc responsible? no), it just makes me shake my head at the whole thing.

[Mike]

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/mceic/about_that_jurassic_park_jeep/

This is our official comment on the matter, from Kevin Bruner.

Thanks to most of you for keeping this thread civil.

-Michael

[WARP10CK]

Here is Kevins Bruner response now can we all get along ??

Hello Reddit,

Kevin Bruner from Telltale here. Today there has been quite the buzz about how Telltale reportedly damaged the Jurassic Park Jeep lent to us at PAX. Telltale has in fact been in regular contact with the owner of the Jeep and the last we heard, he was in the process of completing an insurance claim.

The Jeep was damaged on the way to Seattle, before anyone from Telltale every saw or touched it. Telltale used the shipping company that the owner asked us to use. When it arrived we just saw an awesome, well loved, but also well used, Jeep. We had no way of knowing that anything had happened to the Jeep in transport, as it appeared in reasonable condition. Anyone who came by the show and took a picture with the Jeep can attest that the Jeep looked pretty damn cool, and not obviously damaged.

The fact that the Jeep was damaged before we had access to it, and some dispute over the amount of damage caused in transport vs. existing damage has complicated the claim, which has made the process take a long time.

But, today I wake up to find that there is a campaign the day before our game launch to discredit Telltale. Since Telltale didn't actually do anything negligent, we've been using the insurance we purchased to cover this, but it has been time consuming. Apparently too time consuming. To expedite this, I'll be writing a personal check to cover what we understand the damages to be - this way we won't need to hash this out publicly any longer.

Some people seem to think that Telltale has grown into some giant corporation that doesn't care about people anymore. Nothing could be further from the truth. We started the company to make games that are about writing, acting and atmosphere and not about blowing shit up. Since we've gone out on this limb, we've had some successes (and failures) and earned the chance to work with great licenses like Monkey Island, Back to the Future, Jurassic Park and Walking Dead. All of our games are super faithful to the licenses, and lovingly crafted to make the best fan experience possible. Fans seem to enjoy them, which makes us super proud. We hate that most licensed games are a driver or a shooter with a license slapped on it, which we've never been about.

So I'll fast track getting the Jeep fixed by paying for it personally, even though I don't like the circumstances this is going down in. Perhaps some of you who are hating on Telltale might be inclined to check out Jurassic Park tomorrow and give us a chance to change your mind. is enough

[mightypiratetm]

So you guys were trying to resolve this all along? Also, turns out this Boomerjinks guy was sick of waiting for the insurance claim to be completed and decided to be a dick to telltale.

[Faceslasher]

Well if that is what YOUR DAD said who are we to argue.

Actually wait a minute ... first of all ... the owner of the jeep didn't say anything about anyone from TellTale being drunk and/or banging up the Jeep. He was clear and concise about what DID happen ... and whose fault it was, and how TellTale rather than resolve the issue has decided to ignore him and blame others and basically say "not our problem" in a manner of speaking.

So. That said I would suggest that your dad is not an expert on these matters. Also he may want to learn how to read things before passing such outlandish conclusions.

p.s. is your dad's name Matlock?

Heh, he works for a car dealership. Most cars he get come with scratches and bangs since they ship from Japan.

[Faceslasher]

Oh wait that guy is just another idiot sent to flame Telltale, hmph.

[Elvenmonk]

*shrugs* Leave it to the lawyers, it's the american way :)
Personally, I think making the matter public is childish and the immature way to handle things. TattleTellTaling? I do, however, agree that people should pay for damages they caused. So if it's true, nobody has handled this properly and whatever the outcome, this person didn't take the proper course of action regardless. This matter will not affect my personal opinion of products presented(are the programmers, artists, etc responsible? no), it just makes me shake my head at the whole thing.

While it is childish, but if after 2-3 months and he keeps getting dicked around or hasn't recievec compensation, then this is the best way to do it. However, it is nice to see TellTale pay him now that it's settled.

[Faceslasher]

While it is childish, but if after 2-3 months and he keeps getting dicked around or hasn't recievec compensation, then this is the best way to do it. However, it is nice to see TellTale pay him now that it's settled.

If you read what Kevin said, he tried to get the insurance to pay him, but it never happened. So he just payed him directly to end it.

[Icedhope]

I'm thinking this is over...that we need to lock this thread.

[Elvenmonk]

If you read what Kevin said, he tried to get the insurance to pay him, but it never happened. So he just payed him directly to end it.

Which is why I said if he feels like. Perhaps he could've felt like TellTale was just really giving him the run around. Things like that happen often.

[RAnthonyMahan]

I'm thinking this is over...that we need to lock this thread.

That'd be for the best. Just put all this behind us.

On the bright side, this definitely drummed up a whole lot more attention to the JP game. No such thing as bad publicity. ;)

[Faceslasher]

It's perfect time to end thread, so much bitching and arguing, all is settled.

[mightypiratetm]

Yeah, lock this thread already!

[Icedhope]

I think a little while longer so a lot of the haters can read the response.

[Laphin]

So this is how TellTale celebrates their midnight launch. With bad publicity that will maybe turn into good publicity, that has caused A LOT of attention to spawn onto this forum that has ever existed. lol.

Maybe Jurassic Park will make millions and then they can make a sequel to stuff in Lost World. I'd buy it. :l

[Johro]

as long as they steer far away from the film The Lost World, I'm for it.

[Faceslasher]

So this is how TellTale celebrates their midnight launch. With bad publicity that will maybe turn into good publicity, that has caused A LOT of attention to spawn onto this forum that has ever existed. lol.

Maybe Jurassic Park will make millions and then they can make a sequel to stuff in Lost World. I'd buy it. :l

You think this is a publicity stunt? Please go back to Reddit, Kevin explained himself. Don't you think thats enough?

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