View Full Version : Does this joke offend you?
Tornreaper
11/23/2011, 02:10 pm
Or do you acknowledged that it's just a joke? It kind of helps that he said sorry right after.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seeZo_B7mpU
Skip to 1:20
Irishmile
11/23/2011, 02:14 pm
Its pretty poor taste.. MJF seems like a pretty decent guy.. why give him crap?
Rather Dashing
11/23/2011, 02:41 pm
Is it really any different from the "Woah woah woah Michael, I have to tell you about YOUR future?" joke from Family Guy?
Irishmile
11/23/2011, 02:44 pm
I don't watch Family Guy... I guess I do not hate it... but I am not really entertained by it either.... Maybe I'm just getting old.
Tornreaper
11/23/2011, 03:38 pm
Its pretty poor taste.. MJF seems like a pretty decent guy.. why give him crap?
Well it's just a joke. I just want to know if people take it the wrong way.
Irishmile
11/23/2011, 03:56 pm
what way are they supposed to take it?
Michael J Fox is Canadian
11/23/2011, 05:00 pm
That Parkinsons disease is funny? Cuz its not
Tornreaper
11/23/2011, 05:18 pm
what way are they supposed to take it?
Well some people might be offended because it's a joke about an illness. Others might realize it's just a joke and the guy wasn't make fun of MJF.
Irishmile
11/23/2011, 05:19 pm
Yeah... saying "just joking" after doing or saying something horrible doesn't make it OK... Otherwise I would never have to pay speeding tickets... I would just say "just joking" and the officer would say "oh... my mistake... carry on"
NOBODY likes to be targeted and picked on...
coolsome
11/23/2011, 05:24 pm
Well some people might be offended because it's a joke about an illness. Others might realize it's just a joke and the guy wasn't make fun of MJF.
Well you asked and people answered what more do you want?..Other then them answering what you wanted to hear.
Hayden
11/23/2011, 07:59 pm
Jokes don't really ever offend me, as such; it actually takes quite a lot to truly offend me. I believe this was a joke made in poor taste by somebody with a poor sense of humour. I thought it was stupid, but not really offensive. I simply brush it off just as I would with any other joke made by any other twatcake; to actually be offended by this would just be silly.
RAnthonyMahan
11/23/2011, 08:21 pm
It's fairly difficult to offend me.
The joke was unfunny, though.
LuigiHann
11/23/2011, 10:17 pm
Aww, that's not really funny. I don't mind the joke but the impression is a bit depressing.
This is uh... related (http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls60i8g9aD1r1ad0zo1_500.gif). I think it's still a bit rude but at least I appreciate the gag at play here.
Alex IDV
11/24/2011, 01:51 am
It doesn't offend me, but I don't find it funny at all.
oberlerchner123
11/24/2011, 02:09 am
Seams like a joke Biff would make.
ELB1985
11/24/2011, 06:20 am
boring and being offended is gay. i wish u didn't link us cuz we all gave that guy views.
Laserschwert
11/24/2011, 06:55 am
Ah well, it's not like Michael doesn't make jokes about Parkinson's himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI4lFjWoFqc
Martin McFly
11/24/2011, 07:01 am
It didn't offend me but it was made in poor taste and comes off as a bit cruel.
Hayden
11/24/2011, 08:10 am
boring and being offended is gay. i wish u didn't link us cuz we all gave that guy views.
I doubt it will have a very big impact on the world. (Or even the guy himself.)
And please refrain from using 'gay' in such a context in the future; it can be hurtful to some people.
Tornreaper
11/24/2011, 10:08 am
Well I really didn't find it funny like "HAHA true dat!" more like funny as in "Wow did he really just say that?"
And to the guy who said the guy didn't deserve views, he's actually not a bad person. That's like saying the people who make family guy are bad people because they are offensive jokes. The key is to not take stuff like this seriously.
Shadowknight1
11/24/2011, 07:57 pm
Ah well, it's not like Michael doesn't make jokes about Parkinson's himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI4lFjWoFqc
Okay, that was funny!
Irishmile
11/25/2011, 02:57 am
Ah well, it's not like Michael doesn't make jokes about Parkinson's himself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI4lFjWoFqc
Its a little different when someone who has the disability chooses to joke about it..
Faceslasher
11/25/2011, 07:02 am
Got any conditions I can make fun of?
You heartless creature.
Irishmile
11/25/2011, 08:30 am
Im painfully awesome.... its a burden.
mjc0961
11/25/2011, 09:36 am
Well, you can obviously tell that he's not making the joke out of hatred or malice or anything like that. It is in poor taste (and he realized it immediately, hence the "sorry" right after), but no, I wasn't offended by it.
Tornreaper
11/25/2011, 11:41 am
Well, you can obviously tell that he's not making the joke out of hatred or malice or anything like that. It is in poor taste (and he realized it immediately, hence the "sorry" right after), but no, I wasn't offended by it.
Well yeah that's the main thing. Making a joke like that isn't really that bad opposed to yealling out the N word to every black guy you see.
Also I'm pretty sure he said sorry because he knew that he pulled a Family Guy where he sort of went to far but again Family Guy gets away with it because it's a joke.
JedExodus
11/25/2011, 12:28 pm
Personally, I got more offended when he turned on the 'View goals' option :p
I don't watch Family Guy... I guess I do not hate it... but I am not really entertained by it either.... Maybe I'm just getting old.
I watch it with my mates and laugh with them, all the while shaking my head. I'm a hypocrite of the highest order.
BlankCanvasDJ
11/25/2011, 12:36 pm
Comedy can get away with anything offensive as long as it's funny. That joke wasn't.
Rather Dashing
11/25/2011, 03:13 pm
Comedy can get away with anything offensive as long as it's funny. That joke wasn't.
I didn't find it funny either, but humor is a subjective thing and I don't think you can say that it's unfunny from an objective perspective. Problems come up when one person says what they think is funny and not offensive is the "right" way to view things, and that they can decide what's appropriate based on that standard.
WareKurt
11/26/2011, 02:32 pm
Tornreaper do you know the guy who made that video or what? Just curious what lead you to open this topic.
I don't know family guy but as far as I know from some of the clips people shared here, they reference the movie, not some individual's disease. Also sometimes shows might joke about injuries which people cause by theirselves but a disease is different than that.
As for my opinion; I guess the "time travel gives parkinsons disease" part could be acceptable to some but "wha..wha..what doc" part sounded very disturbing to me. He might not hate MJF but he definitely doesn't respect him. Joking about illnesses is usually considered bad and it should be because it's not like people choose those.
Michael J Fox is Canadian
11/26/2011, 04:36 pm
Its one thing to make fun of a disease but to make fun of an individual for having a disease is extremely offensive.
Since Family guy's been brought up; one of the main characters is a parapalegic andthey do make jokes about it every now and then but it would be awfully poor taste to incorporate jokes about Christopher Reeves injury.
jweir
11/26/2011, 08:06 pm
My two cents, the original joke was really gay (I could honestly care less about who is offended at my use of the word this way, as the use of it to describe someone who is homosexual is offensive to me, not to mention a distortion of the original meaning of the word) and done in poor taste. MJF making a joke was hilarious. Enough said!
Tornreaper
11/26/2011, 08:27 pm
Tornreaper do you know the guy who made that video or what? Just curious what lead you to open this topic.
I don't know family guy but as far as I know from some of the clips people shared here, they reference the movie, not some individual's disease. Also sometimes shows might joke about injuries which people cause by theirselves but a disease is different than that.
As for my opinion; I guess the "time travel gives parkinsons disease" part could be acceptable to some but "wha..wha..what doc" part sounded very disturbing to me. He might not hate MJF but he definitely doesn't respect him. Joking about illnesses is usually considered bad and it should be because it's not like people choose those.
I don't know him personally but lets just say he's a popular "Let's player" on YouTube and I happen to be one of his followers.
I don't think the guy hates him and I don't think the joke was done in disrespect. It's just a joke that meant no harm. I was just curious if some people though he took it too far.
Magic Emperor
11/26/2011, 09:06 pm
That joke didn't offend me; it's just not funny at all. I've laughed more in a funeral.
LuigiHann
11/26/2011, 09:08 pm
I've laughed more in a funeral.
I can't understand what you mean
WareKurt
11/26/2011, 10:35 pm
I was just curious if some people though he took it too far. Well I think he took it too far by saying "wha..wha..what doc".
Magic Emperor
11/27/2011, 02:25 pm
I can't understand what you mean
Not many people do. Nice avatar, by the way!
Scnew
11/27/2011, 04:09 pm
It offends me in that it's a douche bag making an unfunny joke on the Internet and cracking up at himself, but the subject of the joke itself doesn't really bother me.
WareKurt
11/28/2011, 01:44 am
By the way don't remember if this was mentioned before but this wasn't a live show that was recorded was it? Which means by saying sorry, he understands that he made a mistake and said something he shouldn't have but he actually had time to correct it before uploading it to youtube. Which means he doesn't actually care about it, therefore his apology is kind of invalid. If he really did think it was morally wrong, he could have just muted that part.
Tornreaper
11/28/2011, 05:40 pm
By the way don't remember if this was mentioned before but this wasn't a live show that was recorded was it? Which means by saying sorry, he understands that he made a mistake and said something he shouldn't have but he actually had time to correct it before uploading it to youtube. Which means he doesn't actually care about it, therefore his apology is kind of invalid. If he really did think it was morally wrong, he could have just muted that part.
It wasn't live. He doesn't like editing and wants to upload his videos as quickly as possible. He said sorry because he didn't actually mean it in an offensive way but he wouldn't remove it because he doesn't feel that the joke shouldn't be taken seriously and that it wasn't a big deal.
Rather Dashing
11/28/2011, 05:49 pm
(I could honestly care less about who is offended at my use of the word this way, as the use of it to describe someone who is homosexual is offensive to me, not to mention a distortion of the original meaning of the word)
FUCK YOU. I don't see you using Middle fucking English, your vocabulary is no less "distorted" than anybody else's.
coolsome
11/28/2011, 06:12 pm
So if he is using the words original meaning the joke is really happy?
jweir
11/28/2011, 07:19 pm
FUCK YOU. I don't see you using Middle fucking English, your vocabulary is no less "distorted" than anybody else's.
Way to show the "tolerance" that homosexuals push for. They're only tolerant as long as it's their way or else you're a bigot/hatemonger/homophobe. Also, cursing is not at all an uncommon reaction. :rolleyes:
So if he is using the words original meaning the joke is really happy?
I never said I was using the original meaning of the word. I was just using it the best way it can possibly be used given how badly misshapen it is.
Edit
I personally feel this thread is headed in a mostly southward direction given Rather Dashing's outburst and should probably be closed shortly.
coolsome
11/28/2011, 07:48 pm
Way to show the "tolerance" that homosexuals push for. They're only tolerant as long as it's their way or else you're a bigot/hatemonger/homophobe.
I have no idea how you got that from his comment about your vocabulary.
jweir
11/28/2011, 08:10 pm
I have no idea how you got that from his comment about your vocabulary.
Through the 50s and 60s and even today through the phrase "a gay old time" the word meant happy. It's hardly a "Middle English" definition that is completely archaic. It's only though a push to desensitize Americans to homosexuality and see them as "happy, normal people" that the word gay even came to refer to a homosexual. In a nutshell, that's exactly where I got that idea.
divisionten
11/28/2011, 09:09 pm
Guys, seriously. This thread has been derailed way too far. Closed.
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