Raving Rabbids 2 vs World of Max

[LuigiHann]

What? Check out this teaser for Rayman Raving Rabbids 2...
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/rrr2_visual_bunnyearth.thumbnail.jpg (http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/rrr2_visual_bunnyearth.jpg)
:eek:

Looks very familiar...

[fajerkaos]

Haha, what obvious mix between Heroes and Sam and Max? :rolleyes:

[Jake]

Haha! Surely a quality game, then, with art like that.

[maximmortal]

Omgzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!1111oneone

[Kaldire]

Well if you played the other previous rabbit game youll know it has nothing to do with sam & max other than the ears :P which every bunny has in common.

[LuigiHann]

I'm not saying the game is similar, just that the teaser is almost identical to an image TellTale used as a teaser for season one a long time ago (and more recently as a teaser for episode 6)

[AdamG]

Woaaaaaaaaah... Yeah, that's a rip off alright. It's a nearly identical clone of the same Sam & Max episode 6 advertisement on the main page. However, while it's tempting to get angry and want to sue over this, you might want to consider that suing them would also make Telltale look like they're money grubbers. Ubisoft probably knows that, beepers... But, hey, it's free advertising! Suckers! :p

[Harald B]

Yeah, since telltale is working together with Ubi on CSI 4 such a move might not be prudent at the time.. Maybe we should perform a more machiavellian move and inform whoever owns the rights to Heroes :D

[Jake]

I'm more a fan of happy coincidences (and of further propagation of Rabbit*-Earth hybrid imagery, obviously) than I am of ridiculous lawsuits. I think most would agree.


* Actually, to get pedantic, its Lagomorph-Earth hybrid, and Rabbid-Earth hybrid, respectively. There are no actual rabbits involved anywhere in either piece.

[marsan]

According to quantum physics, everything that comes into existence is created at two places at the same time. Which would mean that, if I get a creative idea, somebody at the exact same time, somewhere else in the world, gets the same idea as well. It's why lawsuits over patents are silly, because how can one possibly prove that either of them had the idea first? Even if I had requested a patent, somebody else could have thought about the exact same thing for years before I got that patent, but since I got the patent before they did something about their idea, I get the rights to it. Seems pretty unfair. I have to agree with Jake, happy coincidences.

[LuigiHann]

I'm just kidding about the suing. Besides, theirs has a plunger. Why didn't yours have a plunger, TellTale? You dropped the ball there.

[AdamG]

Ohhhh, Telltale is partnered with Ubisoft with the CSI line? Well, then I guess there's not much to be mad at then. You could think of it almost as a favor, if anything... I'm not sure what the plunger is about though. Except maybe implying the world is clogged with excrement... : /

[NickTTG]

well... this is ridiculous. I wonder if they even know. this kinda makes me sad


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[Zeek]

Hey now!! Who came first and who had it copyrighted first?

If neither can prove a copyright date, then it defaults to whoever published the image first. Learned that first thing as an art student, which is like the saving grace when photographing anything.

Also, IGN cannot claim fair use. They didn't change the image enough to make said claim. Cropping and positioning a differently shaped pair of rabbit ears does not make the image more original.

[NickTTG]

well I know we posted this when we announced season 1 a while back, so I'm guessing we win

[LuigiHann]

Eh-hem. (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2909)

IGN didn't make that image, it's part of UbiSoft's official promotional material for the Raving Rabbids game.

And I posted it first :mad:

[tabacco]

Why would we be mad, anyway?

[AdamG]

Tried to post this earlier...

Yeah, there's actually a thread in general I think where we were talking about that Nick. It turns out that it actually comes from Ubisoft, who you guys are apparently teamed up with on your CSI games. I guess you could kind of look at it as free advertising. Or you could get pissed off about it, since it's obviously a complete rip of in far more ways then is comfortable.

Another way you can look at it is vindication of the success of Sam & Max. Its doing so well the big guys are trying to get a piece of the action! That's nothin' to sneeze at. Not that you guys are small or anything...... But, hey, Ubisoft is huge. :/

[LuigiHann]

Why would we be mad, anyway?

Maybe not mad, but apparently it made your intern sad (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=31680&postcount=1) :(

[AdamG]

I know that if I worked at TellTale (Which I mine as well. ;) ), I would be at least annoyed. Especially if I personally made the advertisement then they copied it. But like I said, it's just vindication of success and free advertisement since it will remind others of Sam & Max, so woohoo!

P.S. 600th post, huzzah! I don't know whether to be sad or happy about it.

[Jake]

It's a little weird, but this sort of thing happens all the time.

As I said in a post elsewhere, it's only a good sign that we're at a point in time where there can be two games out concurrently that are both ridiculous enough to support marketing imagery like that.

[AdamG]

Yeah, I guess you're right.

[ShaggE]

According to quantum physics, everything that comes into existence is created at two places at the same time. Which would mean that, if I get a creative idea, somebody at the exact same time, somewhere else in the world, gets the same idea as well.

So someone else just had an idea involving flying pancakes and a talking spork named Humphrey the Unstable? Wow, I gotta meet this person :p

[AdamG]

There's a talking spork in it? Ok, that's really pushing it Ubisoft........ Get yer' own ideas!

[Cyberlink420]

I was actually about to post this.

Honestly, though, since Max and the Raddibs are my two favorite bunny-like creatures, I really couldn't care less. Truth be told, I've always wanted to see Max do the Rabbid Scream...

[LuigiHann]

I was actually about to post this.

Honestly, though, since Max and the Raddibs are my two favorite bunny-like creatures, I really couldn't care less. Truth be told, I've always wanted to see Max do the Rabbid Scream...

Hah! TellTale guys, you should definitely do that at some point in Season 2, just as a throwaway joke.

Sam: Are today's video games any less mind-numbing than they were in the 1980s?
Max: DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

[dunkpork]

Homage

A beautiful word.

I love the Rabbids. They're hilarious, and I plan on buying Rayman RR2. I think this was a really nice homage, from one bunny game to another, by Ubisoft.

[dunkpork]

Homage

A beautiful word.

I love the Rabbids. They're hilarious, and I plan on buying Rayman RR2. I think this was a really nice homage, from one bunny game to another, by Ubisoft.

[AdamG]

I have never heard of these rabbids until now. But I feel compelled to investigate... What dirty marketing they have! :(

[AdamG]

Hey, where did you find that anyway? I checked Ubisoft's website and the Rabbid's website but couldn't find it.

[Jennifer]

I have never heard of these rabbids until now. But I feel compelled to investigate... What dirty marketing they have! :(
I wanted to play Raving Rabbids since the first one came out. I've heard many good reviews about it for the Wii. It sounds like a lot of fun. :D

[Derwin]

* Actually, to get pedantic, its Lagomorph-Earth hybrid, and Rabbid-Earth hybrid, respectively. There are no actual rabbits involved anywhere in either piece.

I am worried about what you are trying to imply Jake. If Max is a Lagomorph, and not a Rabbit... that leads to the revelation that he is in fact a Pika!

I hope this is not the case, otherwise we will have a similar teaser image for the next Pokemon game.

[Harald B]

Mm, topic drift... There's a useful quote from episode 1 on just this matter:
Sam: It's not me, it's Max.
Max: Hey!
Sam: He thinks he's a rabbit.
Max: I AM a rabbit!
Sam: See?
[...]
Max: I'm a rabbit!

[Cyberlink420]

But the Rabbids have almost no respect for popular culture. If they did, how would we have gotten THIS in RRR2:

http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/i664436_Narabbid.PNG

Apparently, there'll be ones of Spider Man, Sam Fisher, Darth Vader, and Mario as well.

[AdamG]

You mine at Telltale? Have you found any neat treasures?

Mine as well, might as well, who cares.

[Flint Paper]

Haha! Surely a quality game, then, with art like that.

actually the Rayman games ARE good.

[Cyberlink420]

Heh, Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/23/when-artists-dont-pay-attention-rabbids-meet-sam-and-max/) just did an article about the art controversy on their site...

[Zeek]

Heh, Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/05/23/when-artists-dont-pay-attention-rabbids-meet-sam-and-max/) just did an article about the art controversy on their site...

...saying that it found out about this little "oopsie" from a gay gaming website, no less.

*quickly glances at the Sam & Max sexuality thread*

[Mafioso]

Hah! TellTale guys, you should definitely do that at some point in Season 2, just as a throwaway joke.

Sam: Are today's video games any less mind-numbing than they were in the 1980s?
Max: DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

Of course I'd be overjoyed if Max were to pull a Rabbid face at that line. :p

I rather enjoy the Rabbid games. They're very slapstick silly. I'm excited that they're already coming out with another game. :)

[ShaggE]

actually the Rayman games ARE good.


I agree for the most part, but I seem to remember a little game called Rayman Arena that brought a whole new level of "suck" to the table. :P

(Seriously, the awfulness of that game has to be played to be believed)

[fco.]

the only sad thing about this is that, due to ubisoft's bigger advertising machinery, future sam n' max newcomers will say "hey, look how telltale blatantly copied the rabbids add"

[xendria]

lol

[ReverendTed]

The "Giant Menacing Presence Looming Over Our Vulnerable Little Planet in the Void of Space" is a powerful, iconic image and certainly didn't originate with Telltale or Ubisoft, so I don't think it's particularly unreasonable to assume they could have both drawn inspiration independently from the same well, even with the temporal coincidence.

[AdamG]

That is a possibility Ted, yes, but extremely unlikely. They apparently occurred within a week or two of each other, and the companies are in bussiness with each other, which is a strong correllation, I believe. Doesn't really matter though, it's free advertising! Suckers, mohahaha! :p

[Zeek]

The "Giant Menacing Presence Looming Over Our Vulnerable Little Planet in the Void of Space" is a powerful, iconic image and certainly didn't originate with Telltale or Ubisoft, so I don't think it's particularly unreasonable to assume they could have both drawn inspiration independently from the same well, even with the temporal coincidence.

According the article linked earlier in the thread, both are parodies of a sci-fi movie poster from the atomic age of film.

[Jake]

I was going for a 2001: A Space Odyssey type thing, though comparisons to the Spielberg War of the Worlds poster, or the new Transformers poster are also probably valid. Why not, right? As Ted said, having a big looming thing over the Earth certainly isn't an original idea... but to my knowledge, having a video game ad which featured giant 3D cartooney rabbit ears popping out of the top of the Earth was only done one other time before Rayman did it :)

[some nerdy guy]

If this isn't a ripoff then I don't know what is! Sam and Max did it first, they had the picture released way before the first raving rabits even hit the wii.

[dunkpork]

http://m-w.com/dictionary/homage
2 a : expression of high regard : RESPECT -- often used with pay b : something that shows respect or attests to the worth or influence of another : TRIBUTE <his long life filled with international homages to his unique musical talent -- People>