The battery conspiracy

[Isterio]

Do not read this posting, if you haven't played the game yet. Knowing this part of the plot will most certainly annihilate all your pleasure of playing the game. You have been warned... In fact, don't read it at all because it's stupid.

Yes, it was very funny to encounter the problems that Carly had with her radio, but seriously? That kind of destroyed the atmosphere a little. How can a person be that stupid? Even in such a stressful situation...

1.) She doesn't check for batteries in the radio, when it doesn't work?
2.) She doesn't know how batteries look like? "I wouldn't know what to look for"
3.) She puts them in the wrong way?

w00T? Clementine is smarter, than her. She knows how to operate a radio (wt)! Anyway, this element of the game might be too humoristic. It kind of counteracts the tension of the sincerity of the situation they're in.

I'm amazed that she stayed alive that long. Well, she probably will always need somebody to save her ... like Doug and Lee (if you choose to) did. Does this make her valuable for the player? Because men feel good about helping the helpless damsel in distress? But to be honest ... she won't survive episode 2 anyway, right? She probably kills a lurker halfway, gets bitten and then she walks backwards in a pitchfork or something.

[RoboSheriff]

Im amazed she was a radio reporter and didn't know how to use a radio, was she lying or what

[WabbitTwaks]

Im amazed she was a radio reporter and didn't know how to use a radio, was she lying or what
In her defense, being a radio reporter means she writes news stories and talks into a microphone. She has tech guys that deal with all the techy stuff. She doesn't have to know how to work a battery operated radio.

[RAnthonyMahan]

I get the feeling Doug/Carley will die in Episode 2. It'd be kind of difficult for that "Who did you save?" choice to carry on through the entire series.

And while Carley may be technologically illiterate, she does know how to use a gun. :p

[BlankCanvasDJ]

The funny thing is, this sort of thing where a character acts ignorant to obviously set up a puzzle wouldn't seem nearly so out of place in Monkey Island or Sam & Max or even Back to the Future. But the characters in Walking Dead are so realistically written that it stands out.

[RAnthonyMahan]

While we're talking about the radio, I've got to ask something.

I didn't fix the radio (I couldn't find the second battery, which I guess puts me in the same league as Carley. :rolleyes: ). It seems like fixing it was completely optional, and as far as I can tell failing to fix it didn't change much. Does anyone have an idea what fixing the radio actually does?

[Isterio]

While we're talking about the radio, I've got to ask something.

I didn't fix the radio (I couldn't find the second battery, which I guess puts me in the same league as Carley. :rolleyes: ). It seems like fixing it was completely optional, and as far as I can tell failing to fix it didn't change much. Does anyone have an idea what fixing the radio actually does?

She says thank you and you listen to her friend in the radio station getting eaten or something. Then you can act very caring and concerned and she will remember that.

One battery was on the floor close to Clem and the other one was in a shelf.

[WabbitTwaks]

The funny thing is, this sort of thing where a character acts ignorant to obviously set up a puzzle wouldn't seem nearly so out of place in Monkey Island or Sam & Max or even Back to the Future. But the characters in Walking Dead are so realistically written that it stands out.
I agree, but I also think that is very realistic for her to not know how to operate one. She is a radio reporter out of Atlanta. Big city, big radio station. They really do have tech guys that work on all of the equipment, while reporters touch nothing but the mic. She probably has never owned something so old as that radio looked to be. It probably belonged to Lee's father and was quite old. A cellphone and a tv remote look nothing like it.

[Rasher]

While we're talking about the radio, I've got to ask something.

I didn't fix the radio (I couldn't find the second battery, which I guess puts me in the same league as Carley. :rolleyes: ). It seems like fixing it was completely optional, and as far as I can tell failing to fix it didn't change much. Does anyone have an idea what fixing the radio actually does?

Other than hearing a newscast, nothing much. I guess it makes Lee realize how bad things are out there, like he doesn't already know.

[Isterio]

I get the feeling Doug/Carley will die in Episode 2. It'd be kind of difficult for that "Who did you save?" choice to carry on through the entire series.

And while Carley may be technologically illiterate, she does know how to use a gun. :p

Do you want to give a gun to someone like that? She might forget which end to point at the bad guy. In reality I wouldn't. Do you remember the scene in the tv show, where the blonde lady almost kills the motor cycle guy with a rifle bullet?

[Isterio]

I agree, but I also think that is very realistic for her to not know how to operate one. She is a radio reporter out of Atlanta. Big city, big radio station. They really do have tech guys that work on all of the equipment, while reporters touch nothing but the mic. She probably has never owned something so old as that radio looked to be. It probably belonged to Lee's father and was quite old. A cellphone and a tv remote look nothing like it.

She probably owns some "toys" that use batteries ...

[RAnthonyMahan]

She probably owns some "toys" that use batteries ...

Well, I know what we'll be fighting zombies with in the next episode!

[WabbitTwaks]

She probably owns some "toys" that use batteries ...
ROFLMAO!:eek: You're so bad. Maybe she has electric ones instead? They don't have to be battery operated.

[Isterio]

Well, I know what we'll be fighting zombies with in the next episode!

:D

Then it would really be more like a Sam & Max game. Saint Row: the walking d**do? Pardon my French.

Anyway .. so you think it's possible that younger people, than me, did never use any kind of battery or would not know that old radios work with such? If not, will we soon be there? Interesting ... I'm 29 years old and the younger generations already don't know about stuff I grew up with? So depressing! They at least might have problems recognising floppy disks and casettes. :eek:

[WabbitTwaks]

:D

Then it would really be more like a Sam & Max game. Saint Row: the walking d**do? Pardon my French.

Anyway .. so you think it's possible that younger people, than me, did never use any kind of battery or would not know that old radios work with such? If not, will we soon be there? Interesting ... I'm 29 years old and the younger generations already doesn't know about stuff I grew up with? So depressing! They at least might have problems recognising floppy disks and casettes. :eek:
Being young is only part of the problem. Young and not experienced with such devices is what's wrong. There could be many reasons for it. She may not have had living grandparents as she grew up, or parents for that matter. People that would have educated her about older devices. She could have been one of those pampered rich kids that do not have to do much thinking for themselves as they grow. I know many people in their 20's that haven't a clue about things I grew up around. (I'm in my 40's btw) I also know some young women who hardly know how to put gas in their car, much less how to insert a battery into a device. I'm not being sexist, it is the truth, sadly enough.

[Isterio]

Being young is only part of the problem. Young and not experienced with such devices is what's wrong. There could be many reasons for it. She may not have had living grandparents as she grew up, or parents for that matter. People that would have educated her about older devices. She could have been one of those pampered rich kids that do not have to do much thinking for themselves as they grow. I know many people in their 20's that haven't a clue about things I grew up around. (I'm in my 40's btw) I also know some young women who hardly know how to put gas in their car, much less how to insert a battery into a device. I'm not being sexist, it is the truth, sadly enough.

It's okay. Some people need to be the zombies in a zombie apocalypse ;)

Well, I don't know everything myself. But at least in Europe they sell batteries in almost every store. At least she should know how a barrery looks like. Except Carly also has some guys that go shopping for her.

Anyway, that was fun to discuss. Let's see what she does in episode 2. Maybe I should start a fan club afterwards.

[Chillforce]

Do not read this posting, if you haven't played the game yet. Knowing this part of the plot will most certainly annihilate all your pleasure of playing the game. You have been warned... In fact, don't read it at all because it's stupid.

Yes, it was very funny to encounter the problems that Carly had with her radio, but seriously? That kind of destroyed the atmosphere a little. How can a person be that stupid? Even in such a stressful situation...

1.) She doesn't check for batteries in the radio, when it doesn't work?
2.) She doesn't know how batteries look like? "I wouldn't know what to look for"
3.) She puts them in the wrong way?

w00T? Clementine is smarter, than her. She knows how to operate a radio (wt)! Anyway, this element of the game might be too humoristic. It kind of counteracts the tension of the sincerity of the situation they're in.

I'm amazed that she stayed alive that long. Well, she probably will always need somebody to save her ... like Doug and Lee (if you choose to) did. Does this make her valuable for the player? Because men feel good about helping the helpless damsel in distress? But to be honest ... she won't survive episode 2 anyway, right? She probably kills a lurker halfway, gets bitten and then she walks backwards in a pitchfork or something.

Some people's brains just shut down under stress. She was already having trouble with it and might have just been trying to tell herself that it was broken and there was no hope; which a lot of people would think. I've seen people have similar brainfarts under far less stress.

[WabbitTwaks]

It's okay. Some people need to be the zombies in a zombie apocalypse ;)

Well, I don't know everything myself. But at least in Europe they sell batteries in almost every store. At least she should know how a barrery looks like. Except Carly also has some guys that go shopping for her.

Anyway, that was fun to discuss. Let's see what she does in episode 2. Maybe I should start a fan club afterwards.
She'll die, I am almost certain of it. We'll go food foraging and she'll get bitten by a lurker. Watch and see. lol

[Weeksy]

Meh. It was a bit weak for a "puzzle", but then again, it was a very small part of two and a bit hour game (for me anyway).

[WabbitTwaks]

I don't think Carley was saying she does not know what a battery looks like when she says, "I wouldn't know what to look for." I think she is saying she has no clue what kind of battery to look for. I mean, there are many kinds of batteries, and many sizes too. Could be quite confusing for the little lady.

[Weeksy]

I don't think Carley was saying she does not know what a battery looks like when she says, "I wouldn't know what to look for." I think she is saying she has no clue what kind of battery to look for. I mean, there are many kinds of batteries, and many sizes too. Could be quite confusing for the little lady.

If you try and give her the remote control, they both mention that they're the wrong type, and I think Carley says something about needing the "Chunky ones" from memory......

[WabbitTwaks]

If you try and give her the remote control, they both mention that they're the wrong type, and I think Carley says something about needing the "Chunky ones" from memory......
Ah, see? She has a slight idea about them but not any detail. Last time I checked, batteries did not come in a "chunky" size. hehe

[BlankCanvasDJ]

Ah, you guys are just making excuses for her because she's cute.

[Rasher]

Carley was smart enough to save Lee and Clementine twice. Who cares about the batteries? Great, now I feel like such an ungrateful jerk for saving Doug :(

[WabbitTwaks]

Ah, you guys are just making excuses for her because she's cute.
Yeah... So? :p

[iosepusmagus]

I found both batteries and didn't finish the puzzle. This item was carried up until the ending part at the motel. I find this curious because the energy bars that I have hoarded were gone as opposed to the batteries and Lee's family pic. Would this item carry over to episode 2? Like you could use it in a flashlight or something just to make your life at the motel with no electricity more easier? What do you think?

[WabbitTwaks]

I found both batteries and didn't finish the puzzle. This item was carried up until the ending part at the motel. I find this curious because the energy bars that I have hoarded were gone as opposed to the batteries and Lee's family pic. Would this item carry over to episode 2? Like you could use it in a flashlight or something just to make your life at the motel with no electricity more easier? What do you think?
You're the first I have heard that did that. That is an interesting theory. Quite possible too. Considering the batteries for the radio are probably D or C cells. Hmmmm.

[Gman5852]

Carly wasn't that bright at all. I didn't give a single thought in saving Doug.
He was one of the forum managers when I first joined was smart enough to program a remote to activate tvs in a different building to attract the zombies away from them

Carly meanwhile put bullets in her purse and not in her gun...

[WabbitTwaks]

Carly meanwhile put bullets in her purse and not in her gun...
Give her a break. Those were extra bullets. She just wasn't smart enough to make sure she wasn't empty. :p

[Mafon2]

The battery case is plain offensive to women and radiojournalists.

[Isterio]

I found both batteries and didn't finish the puzzle. This item was carried up until the ending part at the motel. I find this curious because the energy bars that I have hoarded were gone as opposed to the batteries and Lee's family pic. Would this item carry over to episode 2? Like you could use it in a flashlight or something just to make your life at the motel with no electricity more easier? What do you think?

Sorry, I guess you might only end up with the photo in the second episode or no item at all. It's usually like that in telltalegames games that you start with none or different items every episode, except for maybe some trademark items, like SAM's gun or items relevant for the main plot arch. They are usually not that mean that you can save items for riddles/problems in future episodes.

[Isterio]

The battery case is plain offensive to women and radiojournalists.

It's also a bit offensive to the player. It's an obviously constructed problem and it's way too easy to solve it. ;)

[WabbitTwaks]

Well.. we really have no idea how much time will pass between the end of Ep 1 and the beginning of Ep 2. If it isn't immediate (quite possible considering the heavier clothing in the preview) the available items could very well be completely different.

[HelloCthulhu]

rotten candy bars? YAY!

[ADavidson]

I could see saving Doug because Carly had a gun and should have been more capable of protecting herself, but I would probably save her in real life.


Two reasons. If you save Doug you don't have time to get her gun, which is a good commodity in an apocalypse, and more women equals more repopulation ;op

The batteries thing tho... unless this takes place a few years from now, is pretty dumb. I mean, I had a gf in Florida who had no idea what the windshield ice scraper in my car was for. Also couldn't pronounce "coincidence" or memorize a menu to keep a job at a restaurant....so those kind of women do exist, but I don't think they'd be able to land a job as a journalist lol

End of the day, it was a light puzzle thrown into the game. Not necessary but I didn't find it offensive really either. Overall great story

[Saboteur-6]

I assumed something as jarringly ridiculous as Carly being battery-derp'd was some sort of inside easter egg reference to a previous Telltale game. Sam and Max maybe?

[Vainamoinen]

Some people's brains just shut down under stress. She was already having trouble with it and might have just been trying to tell herself that it was broken and there was no hope; which a lot of people would think. I've seen people have similar brainfarts under far less stress.

That really is the most reasonable way to explain it. The radio is not working, so she checks everything BUT the battery compartment. Then she gets batteries and is so hectic in plugging them in that this fails too. It's... human, really.

BTW, while we're discussing who's stupid, I actually didn't solve the puzzle. Gave Carly the first battery and was surprised that Lee continuously told her to "still search for her batteries" afterwards. I was convinced that batteries on store shelves always come in pairs. Thought it was a bug, didn't search on. DUH!

[Milosuperspesh]

i eventually got the batteries and put them in for her then a little later after i'd rescued glenn i talked to her and chose the 'state the obvious your co workers are zombie chow now' statment her reaction while harsh was hilarious !!

[Fluffyburrito]

How can a grown woman not know about batteries? And on top of that, once you DO get batteries, she puts them in BACKWARDS?

Honestly, this is less realistic than the zombies!

[Im_The_Foreman]

I find it totally believable actually.

People can be really smart in some ways and drooling idiots in others.
Also only a tiny percent of people today have and use a portable radio anymore, let alone even know what a C battery looks like

[Sheldipez]

How can a grown woman not know about batteries? And on top of that, once you DO get batteries, she puts them in BACKWARDS?!

My wife has done this :)

[Rasher]

I think Carley was a total mess and not thinking correctly. She even says so if you ask her.

[Nekator]

Some people's brains just shut down under stress. She was already having trouble with it and might have just been trying to tell herself that it was broken and there was no hope; which a lot of people would think. I've seen people have similar brainfarts under far less stress.i have a female colleague at work, who shuts down as soon as stress comes up... from that point of view, no female dumbness is shocking or unrealistic to me ;(

[Vainamoinen]

i have a female colleague at work, who shuts down as soon as stress comes up... from that point of view, no female dumbness is shocking or unrealistic to me ;(

Her hand is obviously absolutely steady when she fires a gun, but battery basics escape her completely.

I experienced the same under extreme stress at work, which has so far happened twice. The important, dire things at hand I still did with the utmost precision, but everything else, especially the most standard actions, I completely fucked up. So, yeah, I can understand what was going on with Carley.

Add to that the shock of seeing people die and Bob's your zombie uncle. ;)

[divisionten]

Ditto on this one. From a biological perspective, stress of his caliber triggers fight or flight. Any other actions are more or less shut down by the brain. It's a safety mechanism.

[Zaxs]

This would be more believable if it was set in year 2020 because many things that use batteries are starting to use built in rechargeable batteries. And probably the only people with radios with D-Size Batteries would be survival nuts.

[CupcakeUnicorn]

As a female, I wasn't offended by the fact that Carley was an idiot when it came to the radio. I did think it was very odd though... even if she didn't know how a radio like that worked she should have knowledge of updated technology (such as an ipod) in which case I would fully expect her to check the radio for a port to plug in a charger and in searching for that port would come across the place for the batteries. If she's ever used something like a remote control or flashlight or vibrator as some of you fine gents have suggested she should have known that batteries were what it needed. You can usually guess the size by looking at the slots and even if she couldn't guess the least she could do is check the store for any kind of batteries. Seriously, how stupid could she be?! Even if she didn't know, why the heck didn't she ask Doug?! I mean he IS the "tech guy".

As a gamer, I was slightly offended by how crap that puzzle was.

As for the "she was under stress" theory, I can kinda see that but personally I'd jump at the chance to make myself busy looking for batteries rather than sitting there thinking about how crap the situation is.

[WabbitTwaks]

If you try to give her the remote (i.e. the batteries from it) she does tell you she thinks they are the wrong ones. That she thinks you need "the big stumpy ones".

[Vainamoinen]

Seriously, how stupid could she be?! Even if she didn't know, why the heck didn't she ask Doug?! I mean he IS the "tech guy".

Maybe she was just happy having something to do... or couldn't muster the courage to speak to her livesaver. ;)

[Saboteur-6]

I'm still saying it's an Easter Egg from another game.

[WabbitTwaks]

I'm still saying it's an Easter Egg from another game.
Perhaps a Dev will verify that for us :)

[Isterio]

Well, maybe she is actually very smart and justs acts like that so that the men in the group trust her and feel the need to protect her. Having others taking care of you is very important after all. Carley is probably just waiting for the right moment. When everybody unerstimates her, it will be easier for her to reach her main goal... becoming queen of the survivors of this apocalyptic world!!!

She will wait for the strongest male to make an appearance and then cling to him. She will become his lady and manipulate him to do whatever she seems fit.

I mean ... the battery situation seemed awfully surreal. :P

[Gman5852]

Well, maybe she is actually very smart and justs acts like that so that the men in the group trust her and feel the need to protect her. Having others taking care of you is very important after all. Carley is probably just waiting for the right moment. When everybody unerstimates her, it will be easier for her to reach her main goal... becoming queen of the survivors of this apocalyptic world!!!

She will wait for the strongest male to make an appearance and then cling to him. She will become his lady and manipulate him to do whatever she seems fit.

I mean ... the battery situation seemed awfully surreal. :P

Then she is still an idiot as I killed her for her stupidity.

[Vainamoinen]

http://i46.tinypic.com/rm2x3t.jpg

[Isterio]

:D

Funny look.

[zmally]

I don't know why any female would be offended by this "puzzle" - there are plenty of stupid men out there, who struggle with similar problems.. But a woman does it, therefore it's because she is a woman? Surely it's because she's stupid, not because of her gender?

I found it more unbelievable that a shop has two random, loose batteries lying about to sell than someone not knowing how to put them in.

Also, guys, seriously, this game is based on a "zombie" apocalypse where dead people get up, walk around, eat other people, are attracted to gunfire and noise.. All because of a virus (which normally affects the living...) And you guys find it hard to believe there's stupid people who can't put batteries in properly?

It's like the whole Dumbledore argument all over again - hundreds and hundreds of fans refuse to believe the character was gay, and yet had no problem believing he was a wizard who could use magic?

[Milosuperspesh]

it's like the whole dumbledore argument all over again - hundreds and hundreds of fans refuse to believe the character was gay, and yet had no problem believing he was a wizard who could use magic?

this !

[CupcakeUnicorn]

Maybe she was just happy having something to do... or couldn't muster the courage to speak to her livesaver. ;)

Possibly............ still dumb though, haha.

p.s. "why u no" picture = win :D

[Isterio]

I don't know why any female would be offended by this "puzzle" - there are plenty of stupid men out there, who struggle with similar problems.. But a woman does it, therefore it's because she is a woman? Surely it's because she's stupid, not because of her gender?

I found it more unbelievable that a shop has two random, loose batteries lying about to sell than someone not knowing how to put them in.

Also, guys, seriously, this game is based on a "zombie" apocalypse where dead people get up, walk around, eat other people, are attracted to gunfire and noise.. All because of a virus (which normally affects the living...) And you guys find it hard to believe there's stupid people who can't put batteries in properly?

It's like the whole Dumbledore argument all over again - hundreds and hundreds of fans refuse to believe the character was gay, and yet had no problem believing he was a wizard who could use magic?

Lol ... yeah, this thread is all about Dumbledore and why Bronies aren't lame and it's all about people not liking women and stuff :D .. That's why it's called the battery conspiracy!

Gee, me, I don't like "Duck" either. He's also stupid. But instead of saving him, I would like to get rid of him. He is so annoying. Carley isn't.

Relax ... it's about making fun of a stupid puzzle.

[pir8capn]

The only rationale I could come up with for Carley was the "This place stinks like rotten corpses, there's blood all over the floor. Everybody's stressed to hell since Jerry just tried to kill an innocent kid. Carley's gone bye-bye, what have you got left, Lee?" rationale.

Other than that it was just a frustrating waste of time that my gamer brain kept thinking 'this is gonna be important later, I'm sure of it. Why would they put in something so contrived if it isn't important?". I didn't even see a way to put the now working radio in inventory, so why did it even matter?

To be fair, though, just a couple of weeks ago I was changing the batteries in an emergency weather radio, put one in backwards and started cussing about how much I paid for the the dang thing and it still doesn't work. About an hour later I thought to go back and check the batteries again.

Damn. Lee would have let me die.

[WabbitTwaks]

The only rationale I could come up with for Carley was the "This place stinks like rotten corpses, there's blood all over the floor. Everybody's stressed to hell since Jerry just tried to kill an innocent kid. Carley's gone bye-bye, what have you got left, Lee?" rationale.

Other than that it was just a frustrating waste of time that my gamer brain kept thinking 'this is gonna be important later, I'm sure of it. Why would they put in something so contrived if it isn't important?". I didn't even see a way to put the now working radio in inventory, so why did it even matter?

To be fair, though, just a couple of weeks ago I was changing the batteries in an emergency weather radio, put one in backwards and started cussing about how much I paid for the the dang thing and it still doesn't work. About an hour later I thought to go back and check the batteries again.

Damn. Lee would have let me die.
That last bit had me rolling. :D

Everybody has occasional brain farts. When you're in the middle of the zombie-pocolypse, I would expect them to be a lot more frequent.

The only reason I could discover for fixing the radio was so you could have the chance to respond to Carley regarding her friends at the radio station. This gives you the chance to be consoling to her or mean. I ran it both ways in subsequent plays through. The mean one was amusing.:D

[WARP10CK]

Seriously the woman said she works for a radio station but is incapable checking a regular radio if it has batteries in it.

And when I (Lee) tell her that I will get her batteries her response is= I would not know what to look for ?

Seriously ??? this is the only thing that bothered me with this entire episode you are making a character stupider than she need to be.

[Rasher]

I suppose journalists have techs that do everything for them. All she had to do was get the news and report it. Plus, she was a mess after seeing someone close to her get eaten.

What bugged me was the simplicity and unoriginiality of the puzzle. I guess Telltale wanted to ease us in with something simple. I get that, but at least let us use a wire hanger as an antenna or boost the signal with something.

I can forgive Carley for putting the batteries in the wrong way. I've done that when under a lot of stress, then had a good laugh when I realized it. Stress relived.

[Rodry]

They could add something like "She is under too much stress and is not thinking right at the moment. Just saw her news editor being eaten alive and now is shooting the head of people/zombies left and right."

[Clord]

Seriously the woman said she works for a radio station but is incapable checking a regular radio if it has batteries in it.

And when I (Lee) tell her that I will get her batteries her response is= I would not know what to look for ?

Seriously ??? this is the only thing that bothered me with this entire episode you are making a character stupider than she need to be.
It is simple. Survivors can lie.

Based on his ability to shoot with the Pistol after the zombie outbreak. It would indicate she is something else than just a news reporter or even that she is not.

[WabbitTwaks]

Sure, they could add all kinds of different things that explain why Carley couldn't figure out the batteries, but it is more fun to try to figure it out and debate it.

[Vechna]

I came here to say the exact same thing. This level of stupidity did not just bother me, I found it to be a complete immersion-breaker.

There are a lot of people trying to explain this away, whether by stress or being too young, etc.. But, I don't buy it. I think it was just a poor choice on the developers part. They wanted to illustrate the differences between Carley and Doug (Carley being great with defense, but has ZERO skills otherwise. Doug being a complete wimp, but being "ingenious?"), so that when the time came to choose between the two, you would have something to base your decision on.

They could have done this without making her a total idiot. The "too young" excuse is weak for the simple fact that there ARE still plenty of items that use batteries. To pretend that she wouldn't know this because of Ipods and having tech-guys is kind of laughable. She still has remote controls in her house(that use batteries), she still has to plug things in, she still knows that electronics need power to work. To say that the battery sizes/type would confuse her is also a weak argument. Are you also saying that if she was given a piece of wood with 3 different hole sizes, and 3 different sized pegs, that she would not be able to figure out which pegs go in which holes? Exactly.

There is a lot to be said about this, but I don't want to go on forever.

The main point here is that there is obviously an issue, regardless of the reasoning. There are enough posts and responses to indicate that this was a jarringly unreal moment in the game to most of us. I like this game, I love Walking Dead. But I am not going to defend either of them just because I like them. This was just very bad writing. Please do not repeat it. We are smarter than this, and we expect anyone who could survive this long in a zombie apocalypse to be smarter as well.

As it is, I chose Doug because Carley was stupid, not because he was smart. Programming a universal remote should be something that anyone who uses a TV can do, just like putting gas in your car (I know some people REALLY don't know how to do either and I doubt they would live in a zombie apocalypse). Doug is only less of an idiot than Carley, not some kind of tech guru, give me a break. The game is being played by people who figured out how to get their Steam/XBL/PSN/TT accounts to work, and how to join forums. If you can do this, but you can't program a remote, there is something seriously wrong.

If you don't know how to program your remote, simply look for a button labelled P or Program, hold it till a light flashes or stays on, hit 001, hit ok, try to turn the power on or off. If it doesn't work, repeat all above steps but increase to 002, rinse/repeat. yay, now you can survive Zombie Apocalypse. LOL.

Comon guys, make it more intelligent... We are gamers, we solve puzzles and shoot people for a living.

/Rant Off

[CapnJay]

I gotta say Carley not knowing it had no batteries then putting them in wrong made me suspicious too also she's a helluva shot. Makes you wonder if she USED to be a reporter just like Lee USED to be a teacher. Still Batteries think is amateur hour unless the lack of caffiene addled her brain

[Chillforce]

/Rant Off

Everyone is going to have different skillsets in a disaster situation. If the developers could make a "mistake" like including this obvious puzzle then Carley could certainly mistakenly put the batteries in wrong in a stressful environment.

As for programming a TV, the way Doug put it, he memorized the codes. We could go 001-099 and spend a lot of precious time or we could defer to the expert. Let's pretend the TVs were all Emerson(like mine). He could enter 011,026,027,028,029,030,031,032,037,042,053,064,06 5,067,075,076,079 much more quickly than we could enter in all 99 digits.

That's not to suggest that his skill is limited to programming televisions nor that we would require him to program any further(but you never know right?)

[CreepingDeath]

If you don't know how to program your remote, simply look for a button labelled P or Program, hold it till a light flashes or stays on, hit 001, hit ok, try to turn the power on or off. If it doesn't work, repeat all above steps but increase to 002, rinse/repeat. yay, now you can survive Zombie Apocalypse. LOL.


I don't know about where you are but here in the UK it isn't that easy. For one thing, the codes are 4 digits, and how you enter them differs depending on tv and remote. There is no P or program button, it normally requires holding down 2 random buttons then the 4 digit code, then OK. To add to the awkwardness, we have 3 remote controls for one of our tvs. Each one requires not only a different 4 digit code, but also a different button combination before entering the code. Could I honestly claim I memoried all possible 4000+ code combinations? Hell no...


In the end I saved Doug, purely because the number of people in the group that can handle a gun (even without Carley) outnumbers the number of people that can do anything else useful. Also, Carley was only grabbed by the ankle... stamp on that guys head or club him with the butt of your pistol instead of staring at him.

I also found it depressing only 26% person of people saved him. Guess gamers like a pretty face.

[Vainamoinen]

But Doug HAS a pretty face...!! ;)

[Kiel555]

Sure, they could add all kinds of different things that explain why Carley couldn't figure out the batteries, but it is more fun to try to figure it out and debate it.

I think Carley did what she did (faked being a dummy that can't put batteries in a radio) because she was trying to get Doug's attention.

If these game characters have lives of their own and not everything revolves around Lee then maybe Lee, Glen and the zombies foiled her plan.

She found the radio and ditched the batteries. Then got as close to Doug as possible and started trying to fix the radio with the hope that Doug would notice. Unfortunately, Doug is in the corner and won't stop looking outside.

Enter Lee who finds the batteries and fixes the radio despite her efforts to keep it broken.

Then Glen calls and her and Lee go on a rescue mission.

Then Carley just goes for the direct approach and tries to tell Doug she has feelings for him but the zombies put an end to the conversation.

If Lee had not been so helpful and smart and fixed the radio, I think Doug would have eventually notice Carley having trouble with an electronic device. He would have helped, they talk,yadda yadda, a romance moves forward.

[ryannumber1gamer]

I think Carley did what she did (faked being a dummy that can't put batteries in a radio) because she was trying to get Doug's attention.

If these game characters have lives of their own and not everything revolves around Lee then maybe Lee, Glen and the zombies foiled her plan.

She found the radio and ditched the batteries. Then got as close to Doug as possible and started trying to fix the radio with the hope that Doug would notice. Unfortunately, Doug is in the corner and won't stop looking outside.

Enter Lee who finds the batteries and fixes the radio despite her efforts to keep it broken.

Then Glen calls and her and Lee go on a rescue mission.

Then Carley just goes for the direct approach and tries to tell Doug she has feelings for him but the zombies put an end to the conversation.

If Lee had not been so helpful and smart and fixed the radio, I think Doug would have eventually notice Carley having trouble with an electronic device. He would have helped, they talk,yadda yadda, a romance moves forward.

I agree that should could be trying to get Doug to notice her and i think this could help prove that because after you find the picture of Lee's family. Carly comes in and tells Lee that she knows who he is (Which by the way only 2 people can figure out who Lee is. The other person being Larry)

[Milosuperspesh]

But Doug HAS a pretty face...!! ;)

lol true in a parent's basement sorta way...

[The_Ripper]

Carley would have turn on the radio and at not listening anything think "Aaah, it's broken" and she would not check on the batteries.

In stress situations could be this. When Lee says that the radio have no batteries at first she admits that she knew that... but then says not, like saying "Stupid me".

She's not the smartest girl on town but... not so. :p

Besides she's a good shooter. Doesn't miss one bullet. Always hits. :)

[Gman5852]

Carley would have turn on the radio and at not listening anything think "Aaah, it's broken" and she would not check on the batteries.

In stress situations could be this. When Lee says that the radio have no batteries at first she admits that she knew that... but then says not, like saying "Stupid me".

She's not the smartest girl on town but... not so. :p

Besides she's a good shooter. Doesn't miss one bullet. Always hits. :)

From 2 feet away, I too can hit a zombie head on.

[The_Ripper]

From 2 feet away, I too can hit a zombie head on.

When 2 persons are together (like the WC zombie) would you hit one person, and not the another, in the head at first shoot?

C'moooon, you have to agree this. :D

[Scnew]

I think Carley did what she did (faked being a dummy that can't put batteries in a radio) because she was trying to get Doug's attention.

If these game characters have lives of their own and not everything revolves around Lee then maybe Lee, Glen and the zombies foiled her plan.

She found the radio and ditched the batteries. Then got as close to Doug as possible and started trying to fix the radio with the hope that Doug would notice. Unfortunately, Doug is in the corner and won't stop looking outside.

Enter Lee who finds the batteries and fixes the radio despite her efforts to keep it broken.

Then Glen calls and her and Lee go on a rescue mission.

Then Carley just goes for the direct approach and tries to tell Doug she has feelings for him but the zombies put an end to the conversation.

If Lee had not been so helpful and smart and fixed the radio, I think Doug would have eventually notice Carley having trouble with an electronic device. He would have helped, they talk,yadda yadda, a romance moves forward.

"The dead are coming to life and we'd all really love to hear what the radio is saying is going on outside but that boy I like will think I'm cute if I pretend I can't figure out a battery, tee hee!"

Yeah, uh, I don't buy that.

There is no decent excuse for someone old enough to be an employed news reporter to have no idea that electronics need power. Sorry. None. Plenty of things still need batteries, and you're saying she managed to go the entirety of her life in the 90's and early 2000's without once having to put batteries in something? Really?

[toothiersnow]

Plenty of things still need batteries, and you're saying she managed to go the entirety of her life in the 90's and early 2000's without once having to put batteries in something? Really?

Agreed! She would of been single at some point!

[Maximuswood]

I thought it was some bug in the game or something. Maybe it's the creators of the game playing a joke? lol funny all the same.

[Chillforce]

"The dead are coming to life and we'd all really love to hear what the radio is saying is going on outside but that boy I like will think I'm cute if I pretend I can't figure out a battery, tee hee!"

Yeah, uh, I don't buy that.


I've done things as desperate and a zombie apocalypse would only encourage me to up the ante! "Oh no, help this zombie is overpowering me! Oh good you saved me just in time Carley. How ever could I repay you?"

[Isterio]

I think Carley did what she did (faked being a dummy that can't put batteries in a radio) because she was trying to get Doug's attention.

If these game characters have lives of their own and not everything revolves around Lee then maybe Lee, Glen and the zombies foiled her plan.

She found the radio and ditched the batteries. Then got as close to Doug as possible and started trying to fix the radio with the hope that Doug would notice. Unfortunately, Doug is in the corner and won't stop looking outside.

Enter Lee who finds the batteries and fixes the radio despite her efforts to keep it broken.

Then Glen calls and her and Lee go on a rescue mission.

Then Carley just goes for the direct approach and tries to tell Doug she has feelings for him but the zombies put an end to the conversation.

If Lee had not been so helpful and smart and fixed the radio, I think Doug would have eventually notice Carley having trouble with an electronic device. He would have helped, they talk,yadda yadda, a romance moves forward.

Oh my gosh, you did it! You delivered a very nice explanation that even fits the topic. :)

So ... you think maybe Carley will take revenge on everybody? Or will she accept that the others spoiled her plan?

[Milosuperspesh]

this battery thing is going to be worse than the cake is a lie from portal i'm going to work on a battery meme ;)

it's already an epidemic....

[Vainamoinen]

Didn't I already? ;)

[Milosuperspesh]

if you mean the screen shot of it then yeah i saw that but i mean like a smaller jazzed up version ;)

[Scnew]

I've done things as desperate and a zombie apocalypse would only encourage me to up the ante! "Oh no, help this zombie is overpowering me! Oh good you saved me just in time Carley. How ever could I repay you?"

Well, no offense to you, then, but I'll probably let you die when the zombies come in favor of someone with some sense.

[WabbitTwaks]

Why is it so hard to believe someone might make a mistake or not know about the specific batteries that radio would need? What, just because she is a radio reporter? Do you guys KNOW any radio reporters? I do. Many of them, especially in big cities, do not touch equipment beyond the mic they speak into. Equipment is all handled by the tech guys. The reporter writes, reads, and speaks into a microphone. That's all. It doesn't matter that there are other things in her home that have batteries. Those other things are not that radio. They are different and can be confusing. She is confused and a mess because of the situation they are all in. Some people can be so unforgiving. Sheesh. Carley is nothing more than a radio personality. Next thing I know, you guys will be telling me that someone who acts on television should know about television cameras.

Edit: I am not saying all radio reporters are too stupid to know how to replace the batteries in a radio. What I am saying is that it is not impossible that Carley would have a difficult time with it.

By the way, Kiel555, I really liked your explanation! Love the imagination on that one! :D

[John Schutze]

Why is it so hard to believe someone might make a mistake or not know about the specific batteries that radio would need? What, just because she is a radio reporter? Do you guys KNOW any radio reporters? I do. Many of them, especially in big cities, do not touch equipment beyond the mic they speak into. Equipment is all handled by the tech guys. The reporter writes, reads, and speaks into a microphone. That's all. It doesn't matter that there are other things in her home that have batteries. Those other things are not that radio. They are different and can be confusing. She is confused and a mess because of the situation they are all in. Some people can be so unforgiving. Sheesh. Carley is nothing more than a radio personality. Next thing I know, you guys will be telling me that someone who acts on television should know about television cameras.

Edit: I am not saying all radio reporters are too stupid to know how to replace the batteries in a radio. What I am saying is that it is not impossible that Carley would have a difficult time with it.

By the way, Kiel555, I really liked your explanation! Love the imagination on that one! :D

Agreed!

[Galan_Vaurek]

In her defense, being a radio reporter means she writes news stories and talks into a microphone. She has tech guys that deal with all the techy stuff. She doesn't have to know how to work a battery operated radio.

I agree, but I also think that is very realistic for her to not know how to operate one. She is a radio reporter out of Atlanta. Big city, big radio station. They really do have tech guys that work on all of the equipment, while reporters touch nothing but the mic. She probably has never owned something so old as that radio looked to be. It probably belonged to Lee's father and was quite old. A cellphone and a tv remote look nothing like it.

You're joking, right? All that "techy stuff"? Like knowing a radio needs batteries is "techy'? Come on... that was probably the most stupid thing I've ever seen in a video game. If it were Clem that didn't know about the batteries, I could give a little leeway... but an adult? No way. Even in this day and age .. someone as "old" as she would know that.

[CapnJay]

Well if you want lee to be stupid turn up the volume then fix the batteries and hit the power button I dont know what happens

[WabbitTwaks]

You're joking, right? All that "techy stuff"? Like knowing a radio needs batteries is "techy'? Come on... that was probably the most stupid thing I've ever seen in a video game. If it were Clem that didn't know about the batteries, I could give a little leeway... but an adult? No way. Even in this day and age .. someone as "old" as she would know that.
That is your opinion. I just happen to disagree with it. I am guessing you have never met an adult who didn't know something that was considered "common knowledge" or "easy" for you. Regardless of what some adults would have you believe about them, none are omniscient. Then when you add extreme circumstances into the mix, effective "common knowledge" drops significantly. But as I stated, that is your opinion and you have every right to it.

By the way, the word "techy" (technology) does not mean advanced. It is simply a generic term that covers anything requiring particular knowledge. Perhaps a perusal of a dictionary regarding the word technology would help you?

[Scnew]

Why is it so hard to believe someone might make a mistake or not know about the specific batteries that radio would need? What, just because she is a radio reporter? Do you guys KNOW any radio reporters? I do. Many of them, especially in big cities, do not touch equipment beyond the mic they speak into. Equipment is all handled by the tech guys. The reporter writes, reads, and speaks into a microphone. That's all. It doesn't matter that there are other things in her home that have batteries. Those other things are not that radio. They are different and can be confusing. She is confused and a mess because of the situation they are all in. Some people can be so unforgiving. Sheesh. Carley is nothing more than a radio personality. Next thing I know, you guys will be telling me that someone who acts on television should know about television cameras.

Edit: I am not saying all radio reporters are too stupid to know how to replace the batteries in a radio. What I am saying is that it is not impossible that Carley would have a difficult time with it.

By the way, Kiel555, I really liked your explanation! Love the imagination on that one! :D

I don't think that there is one person I know, in any profession, that would not know to check the batteries if a radio was not working, nor anyone that would not know how to put them in there.

I could see putting them in there incorrectly, finding it still doesn't work, and saying "oh, duh, I put them in wrong."

I mean, I don't see what "tech guys" have to do with it. It's a small, household, portable radio. It's not like she's trying to fire up a satellite link or something.

[CapnJay]

You want a logical explanation ok here goes

TTG thought it'd be interesting to give a challenge to the gamers so you test the nob the powerbutton then turn it around and check batteries then when it's still not working you go back change the batteries again and turn it on and because you turned the volume up it loudly comes on making everybody yell at you

[zenstrata]

I actually worked in radio for a couple years as a DJ. I knew how to run pretty much everything. But it was a small radio station out in the country. Only a couple people working during the day and one at night.

[Chillforce]

Well, no offense to you, then, but I'll probably let you die when the zombies come in favor of someone with some sense.

Gotta have good relations with people to survive a zombie apocalypse right? And manipulation is an effective mode for establishing relations, even if not a moral one. Besides, the availability of a radio is harmless. No help will ever come and everyone is going to die. It's all a matter of how you shape the new world. The old one is gone the moment the first zombie rises.

[WabbitTwaks]

I don't think that there is one person I know, in any profession, that would not know to check the batteries if a radio was not working, nor anyone that would not know how to put them in there.

I could see putting them in there incorrectly, finding it still doesn't work, and saying "oh, duh, I put them in wrong."

I mean, I don't see what "tech guys" have to do with it. It's a small, household, portable radio. It's not like she's trying to fire up a satellite link or something.
So, if I understand you correctly, because you have never met anyone who couldn't handle the problem, then it is impossible that there is anyone in the world who couldn't as well. Interesting.

[d_cover]

It has probably already been said. But I would imagine operating a pistol to be harder than a radio.

[CapnJay]

It has probably already been said. But I would imagine operating a pistol to be harder than a radio.

Depends on the pistol i'd imagine.

Honestly the best defense I can come up with besides "if carley could get the radio working on her own then it'd take away from the game experience and make it more like final destination dvd where you can choose to go left or right but other then those little choices its still just a movie."

Is I once went out to put money on my charge card to pay bills and forgot the atm card to take out the money and the charge card to put the money on. And that was the whole point of me going out.

[Isterio]

So, if I understand you correctly, because you have never met anyone who couldn't handle the problem, then it is impossible that there is anyone in the world who couldn't as well. Interesting.

Why are you getting so worked up about this?

- Are there people like Carley? Yes, there all sorts of people.
- Is it strange that she is that stupid in this situation? I would say so. But if you want, you could explain it with stress and "brain farts" etc.
- It it still an annoying puzzle? Yes, because it's simplicity might be a bit insulting to the player.

I don't think it's worth to fight a VENDETTA over it though ;)

[CapnJay]

Why are you getting so worked up about this?

- Are there people like Carley? Yes, there all sorts of people.
- Is it strange that she is that stupid in this situation? I would say so. But if you want, you could explain it with stress and "brain farts" etc.
- It it still an annoying puzzle? Yes, because it's simplicity might be a bit insulting to the player.

I don't think it's worth to fight a VENDETTA over it though ;)

Did somebody Say VENDETTA?

http://simpsonspedia.net/images/thumb/5/56/Gino_Terwilliger.png/200px-Gino_Terwilliger.png

[WabbitTwaks]

Why are you getting so worked up about this?

- Are there people like Carley? Yes, there all sorts of people.
- Is it strange that she is that stupid in this situation? I would say so. But if you want, you could explain it with stress and "brain farts" etc.
- It it still an annoying puzzle? Yes, because it's simplicity might be a bit insulting to the player.

I don't think it's worth to fight a VENDETTA over it though ;)
Worked up? lol. Not at all. I just have my opinions and as my sig mentions, I am very verbal about them. ;) Besides, I thought it was understood everyone must think as I do. :p

[CapnJay]

Worked up? lol. Not at all. I just have my opinions and as my sig mentions, I am very verbal about them. ;) Besides, I thought it was understood everyone must think as I do. :p

If we didn't have arguments and debates then not many people will post if nobody posts then why do i spend 12 hours a day randomly visiting the forums.


I'm beginning to feel like a weirdo hanging out here all the time waiting to post and then saying something creepy

[ZacTB]

Sorry if I am stating the obvious but could the whole battery thing be because they wanted to show that Doug was good with technology but not with guns or fighting, whilst Carley was good with guns and fighting but not with technology?

[Milosuperspesh]

new carly meme / troll ;)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e179/pickleboy007/carlee1.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e179/pickleboy007/carly1.jpg

[Isterio]

Sorry if I am stating the obvious but could the whole battery thing be because they wanted to show that Doug was good with technology but not with guns or fighting, whilst Carley was good with guns and fighting but not with technology?

Yep. this was pointed out before (sadly not by me) and is probably quite an important reason for the battery conspiracy. But I think there would have been better ways to show that.

[Isterio]

Worked up? lol. Not at all. I just have my opinions and as my sig mentions, I am very verbal about them. ;) Besides, I thought it was understood everyone must think as I do. :p

I guess then we will need a good way to resolve future disputes. I suggest 2 retro pistols and a duel at noon. Or we could just say the person with more forum posts is right.

Anyway, I think the game is a bit too easy. It's really more about the story and the little shockers. I would like the future episodes to be more challenging. I don't just refer to the puzzles (batteries), but also to the reaction tests. Why not having to hit different buttons or something else? Why does the crossair need to be so large? (Did they make the challenges for people like Carley? :P)

[boxman]

Being young is only part of the problem. Young and not experienced with such devices is what's wrong. There could be many reasons for it. She may not have had living grandparents as she grew up, or parents for that matter. People that would have educated her about older devices. She could have been one of those pampered rich kids that do not have to do much thinking for themselves as they grow. I know many people in their 20's that haven't a clue about things I grew up around. (I'm in my 40's btw) I also know some young women who hardly know how to put gas in their car, much less how to insert a battery into a device. I'm not being sexist, it is the truth, sadly enough.
You make it sound like battery powered devices vanished ages ago. That radio used bog standard batteries, so she definitely would have come across them during childhood.
What is even more funny is how when you hand her the remote instead, she says it needs the "big stumpy" ones, even though she earlier was even more clueless.

It is really far fetched that she has no clue about batteries. But anyways.. I personally found her stupidity more amusing than annoying.

[WabbitTwaks]

You make it sound like battery powered devices vanished ages ago. That radio used bog standard batteries, so she definitely would have come across them during childhood.
What is even more funny is how when you hand her the remote instead, she says it needs the "big stumpy" ones, even though she earlier was even more clueless.

It is really far fetched that she has no clue about batteries. But anyways.. I personally found her stupidity more amusing than annoying.
Please be aware, my posts regarding all this were only my imaginative opinions as to what may possibly explain why Carley was so ignorant. The real reason I think this puzzle was here is simply something for the player to figure out, and nothing more.

[Xirsche]

Please be aware, my posts regarding all this were only my imaginative opinions as to what may possibly explain why Carley was so ignorant. The real reason I think this puzzle was here is simply something for the player to figure out, and nothing more.

My little addition onto that is that it would actually be the first real puzzle for the player in it. Probably to ease the player in to how puzzles would be like in this game..pretty much rolling the carpet for more challenging puzzles in later episodes.

And my $.02 for why Carly had so much trouble is probably because it was for a radio from before her generation. Lee's family owned the store, right? By that standard, it could be a radio Carly never had experience with.

[WabbitTwaks]

My little addition onto that is that it would actually be the first real puzzle for the player in it. Probably to ease the player in to how puzzles would be like in this game..pretty much rolling the carpet for more challenging puzzles in later episodes.

And my $.02 for why Carly had so much trouble is probably because it was for a radio from before her generation. Lee's family owned the store, right? By that standard, it could be a radio Carly never had experience with.
Glad to see someone else come up with one of the same reasons I did. lol. Many think that reason is an impossibility, but I'm with you :D

[CapnJay]

I guess we really can't claim to know if Carleys a ditz till episode 2

[Farlander]

There should be advantages and disadvantages to both Doug and Carley in episode 2 (and consecutive episodes too if they're alive), or else there will be a clearly beneficial choice. And if there is a clearly beneficial choice, then the whole choice aspect is utterly destroyed. I'm sure TellTale understands that, so Carley being stupid with batteries is not an indication that she'll be useless.

[CapnJay]

There should be advantages and disadvantages to both Doug and Carley in episode 2 (and consecutive episodes too if they're alive), or else there will be a clearly beneficial choice. And if there is a clearly beneficial choice, then the whole choice aspect is utterly destroyed. I'm sure TellTale understands that, so Carley being stupid with batteries is not an indication that she'll be useless.

Maybe Doug is More a Long Term Investment

[Xirsche]

Glad to see someone else come up with one of the same reasons I did. lol. Many think that reason is an impossibility, but I'm with you :D

Whoo boy, that is NOT an impossibility. It's no more an impossibility than a family of old owning the very first Atari system and younger members of said family not knowing a thing about it. :)

Same can be said for this radio subject. And glad to see someone else with the same logic. :D

[CapnJay]

Whoo boy, that is NOT an impossibility. It's no more an impossibility than a family of old owning the very first Atari system and younger members of said family not knowing a thing about it. :)

Same can be said for this radio subject. And glad to see someone else with the same logic. :D

And Conversely there can be younger people who knows how to use even older technology that should have been obsolete before they were born. I think carleys battery problem is easily explained

"You don't mess with a reporter. Especially one whose three days out from her last cup of coffee"

Caffiene Addiction is a Witch

[Xirsche]

And Conversely there can be younger people who knows how to use even older technology that should have been obsolete before they were born. I think carleys battery problem is easily explained

"You don't mess with a reporter. Especially one whose three days out from her last cup of coffee"

Caffiene Addiction is a Witch

Yeah, I didn't say EVERY one of them was like that..heck, I'm actually one of those you just described. It doesn't that most of the population is actually like that.

[Sabertooth Hamster]

Ah, see? She has a slight idea about them but not any detail. Last time I checked, batteries did not come in a "chunky" size. hehe


D batteries.
Or nine volt, those square ones.

I completed the puzzle, I don't remember if we took the radio, but I found two or three of those energy bars in the store, and at least one stayed with me to the end of the chapter.

Did you ever suddenly stop the game without it getting saved? I know there are save points, and if you got annoyed and cut it off, or it shut down, and then you started BEFORE you got the items, and kept going without getting them again, that might explain it.

I can't think of any other reason the energy bars didn't get saved.

[Scnew]

And Conversely there can be younger people who knows how to use even older technology that should have been obsolete before they were born. I think carleys battery problem is easily explained


But batteries aren't obsolete. They are still used in things, and would have still been used in even more things when she was growing up. She never had a radio, a Walkman, a portable CD player, a Game Boy, a TV remote, a flashlight, an RC car, any of a million other battery powered toys, an early wireless console controller, a Wiimote, a graphing calculator, a battery powered clock, a camcorder... need I go on?

I mean, putting the batteries in incorrectly, I guess that's possible. Kinda dumb, but possible. But having a cordless electronic device that won't turn on and not immediately/ever thinking to check the batteries? C'mon!

[Xirsche]

But batteries aren't obsolete. They are still used in things, and would have still been used in even more things when she was growing up. She never had a radio, a Walkman, a portable CD player, a Game Boy, a TV remote, a flashlight, an RC car, any of a million other battery powered toys, an early wireless console controller, a Wiimote, a graphing calculator, a battery powered clock, a camcorder... need I go on?

I mean, putting the batteries in incorrectly, I guess that's possible. Kinda dumb, but possible. But having a cordless electronic device that won't turn on and not immediately/ever thinking to check the batteries? C'mon!

As per your second part, they had to give SOMEthing for the player to do in that point and time. :P Maybe that, and/or show how puzzles could very well be played with in this game.

And yes, batteries aren't obsolete. IN 2012, I STILL use Triple-A batteries for my MP3 player (yes, it's one of those classic battery-operated ones that is incapable of recharging) and things like my flashlights.

[boxman]

My little addition onto that is that it would actually be the first real puzzle for the player in it. Probably to ease the player in to how puzzles would be like in this game..pretty much rolling the carpet for more challenging puzzles in later episodes.

And my $.02 for why Carly had so much trouble is probably because it was for a radio from before her generation. Lee's family owned the store, right? By that standard, it could be a radio Carly never had experience with.
But still.. Even old radios use the exact same kind of batteries as newer battery powered devices.

Even toys these days often use same kind of batteries as decades old radios.
My sister for example got a 1 year boy and even his battery powered toys uses the same kind of batteries you would expect to find in such a old radio.

[boxman]

But batteries aren't obsolete. They are still used in things, and would have still been used in even more things when she was growing up. She never had a radio, a Walkman, a portable CD player, a Game Boy, a TV remote, a flashlight, an RC car, any of a million other battery powered toys, an early wireless console controller, a Wiimote, a graphing calculator, a battery powered clock, a camcorder... need I go on?

I mean, putting the batteries in incorrectly, I guess that's possible. Kinda dumb, but possible. But having a cordless electronic device that won't turn on and not immediately/ever thinking to check the batteries? C'mon!
And not to mention she did not even know what to look for.

[WabbitTwaks]

I guess I just do not understand why people insist that it is impossible for Carley not to know how to work through her battery problem alone. Why is it impossible? Just because it is common knowledge? I have met plenty of people who have no common sense and even less common knowledge. lol. And they aren't even in the middle of a zombiepocolypse!

[CapnJay]

Mst3k Mantra works best

[The_Ripper]

I guess I just do not understand why people insist that it is impossible for Carley not to know how to work through her battery problem alone. Why is it impossible? Just because it is common knowledge? I have met plenty of people who have no common sense and even less common knowledge. lol. And they aren't even in the middle of a zombiepocolypse!

And are they still alive? You didn't kill them yet? Lol

[tkobo]

Only explanation i can even barely accept,is how much like Duck far too many of the last 2 generations are in real life.....

But even then,you have the inescapable issue that an electronic device has to be powered by something.And even the "duck" like,would eventually get around to looking for a power source for such a device,were it to be not working.....

The first reaction,even from a "duck", would be to look for something "wrong" with the device.The look for "obvious damage" of some sort.And then upon not seeing any damage,nor any power source,and seeing that trap door on the back of the device,looking inside it.

At the very least "Perhaps theres a cord in there ?"Im betting even the "ducks" would think to look for a cord and plug......given a few minutes.

[Xirsche]

Only explanation i can even barely accept,is how much like Duck far too many of the last 2 generations are in real life.....

But even then,you have the inescapable issue that an electronic device has to be powered by something.And even the "duck" like,would eventually get around to looking for a power source for such a device,were it to be not working.....

The first reaction,even from a "duck", would be to look for something "wrong" with the device.The look for "obvious damage" of some sort.And then upon not seeing any damage,nor any power source,and seeing that trap door on the back of the device,looking inside it.

At the very least "Perhaps theres a cord in there ?"Im betting even the "ducks" would think to look for a cord and plug......given a few minutes.

Well, the radio is wireless and battery-powered, and using not 4 AA or even AAA batteries like most radios would be these days if not wired, but 2 C-Cell or D-Cell batteries, some of which are hard to find in a DRUG STORE, and can't go for more without attracting attention from the undead. You'd think Mr. Everett would've kept spare batteries in the drawer with his remote for the TV.

[WabbitTwaks]

And are they still alive? You didn't kill them yet? Lol
Shhhhhhh.. Plans are in motion :D
Well, the radio is wireless and battery-powered, and using not 4 AA or even AAA batteries like most radios would be these days if not wired, but 2 C-Cell or D-Cell batteries, some of which are hard to find in a DRUG STORE, and can't go for more without attracting attention from the undead. You'd think Mr. Everett would've kept spare batteries in the drawer with his remote for the TV.
Perhaps, but where would we be without the 'mazing fun of The Wild-n-Wooly Battery Hunt!!

[Xirsche]

Perhaps, but where would we be without the 'mazing fun of The Wild-n-Wooly Battery Hunt!!

Oh, I dunno, where WOULD we be? Surely some convenience store? Or, perhaps, the most unlikely place ever: the library! :D

[Milosuperspesh]

Oh, I dunno, where WOULD we be? Surely some convenience store? Or, perhaps, the most unlikely place ever: the library! :D

or bleeding on a street corner from a supprise zombie attack with the sound of more zombies heading towards you ?

or the only store that has any was locked and any attempt to gain entry would alert the walkers...

[Xirsche]

or bleeding on a street corner from a supprise zombie attack with the sound of more zombies heading towards you ?

or the only store that has any was locked and any attempt to gain entry would alert the walkers...

Or perhaps Carly is hiding another pair of batteries in her undergarments? ;) I mean, women DO have more hiding places than men~

[CapnJay]

Or perhaps Carly is hiding another pair of batteries in her undergarments? ;) I mean, women DO have more hiding places than men~

So she wanted doug to try and find them

[Milosuperspesh]

more like she didn't want doug to find them so he could be the 'real thing'....

but i find it odd she tells lee she fancies doug in that moms basement kinda way but when the door is being attacked she doesn't actually admit it to him?

then lee has to tell the survivor whats what.... which is strange but imo quite true/plausable !

[Kiel555]

Oh my gosh, you did it! You delivered a very nice explanation that even fits the topic. :)

So ... you think maybe Carley will take revenge on everybody? Or will she accept that the others spoiled her plan?

I don't see her looking for some payback. Besides, Lee is the one who is really at fault but he's too helpful and his "daughter" is just too cute.

[Kiel555]

Why is it so hard to believe someone might make a mistake or not know about the specific batteries that radio would need? What, just because she is a radio reporter? Do you guys KNOW any radio reporters? I do. Many of them, especially in big cities, do not touch equipment beyond the mic they speak into. Equipment is all handled by the tech guys. The reporter writes, reads, and speaks into a microphone. That's all. It doesn't matter that there are other things in her home that have batteries. Those other things are not that radio. They are different and can be confusing. She is confused and a mess because of the situation they are all in. Some people can be so unforgiving. Sheesh. Carley is nothing more than a radio personality. Next thing I know, you guys will be telling me that someone who acts on television should know about television cameras.

Edit: I am not saying all radio reporters are too stupid to know how to replace the batteries in a radio. What I am saying is that it is not impossible that Carley would have a difficult time with it.

By the way, Kiel555, I really liked your explanation! Love the imagination on that one! :D

Thanks!

[Holy Ham with Guacamole]

Do you want to give a gun to someone like that? She might forget which end to point at the bad guy. In reality I wouldn't. Do you remember the scene in the tv show, where the blonde lady almost kills the motor cycle guy with a rifle bullet?

Not a great comparison. Daryl was a long ways away and moving like a walker. Even if Andrea knew that it was Daryl, she had no way of knowing that he wasn't a walker. In this universe, it's better to be safe. Daryl's just lucky she only winged him. The fact that Carley can't figure out a radio worries me. Hence why I saved Doug.

[Isterio]

Not a great comparison. Daryl was a long ways away and moving like a walker. Even if Andrea knew that it was Daryl, she had no way of knowing that he wasn't a walker. In this universe, it's better to be safe. Daryl's just lucky she only winged him. The fact that Carley can't figure out a radio worries me. Hence why I saved Doug.

Didn't they tell her that she is not supposed to have a gun and especially not to shoot because it would attract more walkers?

Be it as it may, I consider both of them as a risk.

[CapnJay]

isn't ducks mouth the biggest risk?

[Isterio]

isn't ducks mouth the biggest risk?

True, that child is just annoying. I really hope that they kill him off in the next episode. I really don't want any "funny" duck scenes in the game:

"Do you remember, when Duck was followed by walkers, climbed up a tree and couldn't come down anymore? He started talking to the walkers and there came more and more to listen to his stories about lasers and robots. What fun it was to lose Carley in a rescue mission .. hahaha" :(

[CapnJay]

True, that child is just annoying. I really hope that they kill him off in the next episode. I really don't want any "funny" duck scenes in the game:

"Do you remember, when Duck was followed by walkers, climbed up a tree and couldn't come down anymore? He started talking to the walkers and there came more and more to listen to his stories about lasers and robots. What fun it was to lose Carley in a rescue mission .. hahaha" :(

Well Dealing with a zombie apocalypse is all about having your nerves worn down to the bone from stress hunger zombies and duck sure fits the stress category. But he's a necessary commodity. After all the adults die it'll end with Duck and Clementine discovering Little Lamplight.

[Isterio]

Well Dealing with a zombie apocalypse is all about having your nerves worn down to the bone from stress hunger zombies and duck sure fits the stress category. But he's a necessary commodity. After all the adults die it'll end with Duck and Clementine discovering Little Lamplight.

Do you really want Duck to create little Ducks? Then humanity might be lost for certain. ;)

[CapnJay]

Do you really want Duck to create little Ducks? Then humanity might be lost for certain. ;)

Your right because

Ducks Curiosity, Hyperactivity ,Magnetism for Danger , talking alot, and always getting out of trouble in the nick of time


+

Clementines Intelligence, Bravery, Ability to Think on her Feet , and general ability to generate empathy


=

The Doctor from Doctor Who

[toothiersnow]

got to admit i wouldnt mind hitting matt smith with a bag of hammers...

[Milosuperspesh]

got to admit i wouldnt mind hitting matt smith with a bag of hammers...

i'd rather just tap amy's you know whatsie and the doctor can watch if he likes and rory gets hammer time..

[toothiersnow]

You want to give Rory... You know what, nevermind lol

[Milosuperspesh]

no rory gets the bag of hammers...i ain't gay.. and amy is the hotness

[CapnJay]

Amy and Rose at the same time .... heck throw in donna noble and martha jones too we'll have a party!



{this is how a conversation deteriorates}

[Milosuperspesh]

heck throw in donna noble



been there done that but not found a suitable t shirt...

[Lars80]

Carley is a single woman in her 20's.
Hello?
Of course she knows how to put the batteries in, she just want to find out if YOU are a handyman.
Or did everyone of you fall for that battery trick she pulled?

[CapnJay]

been there done that but not found a suitable t shirt...

That sounds like a story

[toothiersnow]

Carley is a single woman in her 20's.
Hello?
Of course she knows how to put the batteries in, she just want to find out if YOU are a handyman.
Or did everyone of you fall for that battery trick she pulled?

If she is single and in her twenties she should of had plenty of practice of ptting batteries in her little 'friend'

[Milosuperspesh]

That sounds like a story

lol an ex gf of mine was a look alike...

[Darthchair]

I kinda just figured TellTale wanted to add some humor and was hard pressed to do so what with you know...trying to decide who lives and dies and you know...vicious zombies trying to bite your head off. I chalk it up to her just being really stressed out about the creepy nerd staring at her in between his zombie love sessions. I totally don't think they would have worked out, btw. :D

[Lars80]

If she is single and in her twenties she should of had plenty of practice of ptting batteries in her little 'friend'

Doh.
I cant believe so many people fall for the "dont know how to put batteries in the radio" thing. She is just checking if Lee is somewhat handy.

[Vainamoinen]

Doh.
I cant believe so many people fall for the "dont know how to put batteries in the radio" thing. She is just checking if Lee is somewhat handy.

This can only mean one thing.

http://i50.tinypic.com/2dwexzn.jpg

[Milosuperspesh]

Lol vain

or gasp.... where the batteries in the radio when she got there and she took them out and hid them ?!

[Lars80]

Well. I am glad we sorted the battery misunderstanding out.

She's just a healthy young woman.

[CapnJay]

Maybe she didn't know how to put them in because they weren't 9 volts

[Vainamoinen]

Well. I am glad we sorted the battery misunderstanding out.

NOOOOO!! The discussion has to go on FOREVER!

http://i48.tinypic.com/hwiln7.jpg

[The_Ripper]

NOOOOO!! The discussion has to go on FOREVER!

http://i48.tinypic.com/hwiln7.jpg

Hey, that line it's from Carley herself! Lol! When Lee offers her the remote's batteries...

She knows when the batteries fit in and when not. ;) :D

[Milosuperspesh]

She knows when the batteries fit in and when not. ;) :D

Good call !

but methinks some of us knew that already...

[GCatMMA]

She knows who Lee is, so I found the batteries and let her die.

Does anyone know if I get to keep the batteries, or do they go away? Because I feel like I could use them for clem's walkie talkie

[Milosuperspesh]

don't think so and clems walkie got smashed by the sounds of it.

and once they are in the radio they aren't listed in lee's hud

once the item is used for it's goal thats it.

bttf did the same even thought marty kept some stuff in the next episode it was gone.

i think if items stayed the simple inventory hud would get over whelmed and cluttered.

[GCatMMA]

don't think so and clems walkie got smashed by the sounds of it.

and once they are in the radio they aren't listed in lee's hud

once the item is used for it's goal thats it.

bttf did the same even thought marty kept some stuff in the next episode it was gone.

i think if items stayed the simple inventory hud would get over whelmed and cluttered.

I didn't use the batteries, so I am hoping they still show up

and I'm thinking Doug could fix it, and I could put the batteries in it

idk, just try to think how this might progress, I'll guess we'll find out.

[Istibul]

I didn't use the batteries, so I am hoping they still show up


Sometimes background junk is just a background junk ;)

[jimbow86]

Do not read this posting, if you haven't played the game yet. Knowing this part of the plot will most certainly annihilate all your pleasure of playing the game. You have been warned... In fact, don't read it at all because it's stupid.

Yes, it was very funny to encounter the problems that Carly had with her radio, but seriously? That kind of destroyed the atmosphere a little. How can a person be that stupid? Even in such a stressful situation...

1.) She doesn't check for batteries in the radio, when it doesn't work?
2.) She doesn't know how batteries look like? "I wouldn't know what to look for"
3.) She puts them in the wrong way?

w00T? Clementine is smarter, than her. She knows how to operate a radio (wt)! Anyway, this element of the game might be too humoristic. It kind of counteracts the tension of the sincerity of the situation they're in.

I'm amazed that she stayed alive that long. Well, she probably will always need somebody to save her ... like Doug and Lee (if you choose to) did. Does this make her valuable for the player? Because men feel good about helping the helpless damsel in distress? But to be honest ... she won't survive episode 2 anyway, right? She probably kills a lurker halfway, gets bitten and then she walks backwards in a pitchfork or something.

I don't think the battery is important. I think it was added to make the game longer and give you something else to do...........

[Scnew]

I don't think the battery is important. I think it was added to make the game longer and give you something else to do...........

I think it was too.

But I also think it's pretty bad that they couldn't come up with a better puzzle at that point then "put batteries into a radio."

[Milosuperspesh]

the thing is the batteries don't show up as hotspots till you look at the radio and i think this game doesn't do puzzles for puzzles sake it's mainly the story and the survival choices and the 'puzzles' are just simple tasks..

[Lars80]

the thing is the batteries don't show up as hotspots till you look at the radio and i think this game doesn't do puzzles for puzzles sake it's mainly the story and the survival choices and the 'puzzles' are just simple tasks..

Kind of like the ATM/bank card thing.
Wonder if that 5000$ will be needed later in the game.

[CapnJay]

the what?

[Milosuperspesh]

i didn't find the atm card any tips on where it is ? just a general idea cos the i tried the atm with out it and of course nothing happens ;)

[CapnJay]

I feel Like im missing out on something is another game?

[Lars80]

After rescuing Glenn the ATM card appear outside, then you have to find the code on the board next to Doug.

[CapnJay]

I've never seen an ATM machine in the game or atm card.... I better Replay it

[zenstrata]

I wondered what the significance of the ATM machine was. I did not think that the area outside would have changed much in the short time I was out retrieving glen. I think it should have been available in the earlier scene as well.

[CapnJay]

ok so an ATM machine and Card, A Plank on the farm, Kicking the zombie on Carleys leg rather then handing her her purse. What other options did most people miss?

[The_Ripper]

Where's that ATM card? On the motel? :confused:

[Vainamoinen]

They're just pulling your leg. ;)

[CapnJay]

Goddammit! I thought there was an ATM card and have been replaying it trying to find it. although money is no use in a zombie apocalypse I thought it might be of use to bribe the bandits in Episode 2 if they think the apocalypse will end and things will go back to normal

[The_Ripper]

They're just pulling your leg. ;)

Ok, call me fool. :o

[Milosuperspesh]

Ok, call me fool. :o

yeah we got trolled badly lol

also when you rescue glenn, the hotspot for the atm is blocked by glenn...

sucks but would of been nice ;)

[Vainamoinen]

Dragging 5000 dollars around as an icon you can't get rid of, without the chance to ever do something with it in a zombie world? Not that much fun. ;)

[zenstrata]

you could use it as tinder for starting fires =D

[walkerbait00]

isn't there two walkie talkies Glenn had one and Clem had one wheres the one Glenn had?

[Vainamoinen]

Probably on his back seat. Clem must want to kill Glenn for just taking it along for the ride. :(

Errrr.... back to topic?!

[Drake Sigar]

Kind of like the ATM/bank card thing.
Wonder if that 5000$ will be needed later in the game.

You have made a powerful enemy this day.

[zenstrata]

You have made a powerful enemy this day.

undead bankers?

[Milosuperspesh]

undead bankers?

for those optimists who think the world will recover
and things go back 'to normal'

[toothiersnow]

undead bankers?

undead strippers?

[Jennifer]

undead bankers?
No, zombie accountants (goingloudstudios.com/games/zombie-accountant/). :D

[Xirsche]

undead bankers?

undead strippers?

No, zombie accountants (goingloudstudios.com/games/zombie-accountant/). :D

Why not all 3 of the above? 8D

[Vold]

I get the feeling Doug/Carley will die in Episode 2. It'd be kind of difficult for that "Who did you save?" choice to carry on through the entire series.

And while Carley may be technologically illiterate, she does know how to use a gun. :p
Doug/Carley
I believe they may die but not a must...
but that's just a 'reckoning' :D

I tried not saving either of them, but its a no no...
1 of them had to live (I hope we can actually choose not to save either in future eps.)

So they may or may not be vital in the next game, be it they end up alive or dead.
but from the ending here, looks like they just left. :o

As for the Gun, I was just listening to a podcast, where they talk about a grunt who doesn't know how to hack something & people call him stupid (because other characters can hack it, who happens to be high tech. people compared to the old man)

Radio
worst case example in a show is "Big Bang Theory"
where they try to make modifications to a robot, he can't even open a tool box. :D

To be fair, the most they achieved was changing the battery to the remote, lol

I agree, but I also think that is very realistic for her to not know how to operate one. She is a radio reporter out of Atlanta. Big city, big radio station. They really do have tech guys that work on all of the equipment, while reporters touch nothing but the mic. She probably has never owned something so old as that radio looked to be. It probably belonged to Lee's father and was quite old. A cellphone and a tv remote look nothing like it.

"It's not in my job description" comes to mind. :D

She probably owns some "toys" that use batteries ...

She either hadn't finish it yet, or her roommate replaces it for her or she buys a new one when it stops working.
:o
or maybe just maybe, as some may not believe it
She don't have such a toy. :)

Do you want to give a gun to someone like that? She might forget which end to point at the bad guy. In reality I wouldn't. Do you remember the scene in the tv show, where the blonde lady almost kills the motor cycle guy with a rifle bullet?
That depends, not knowing how electronics work does not mean they won't know how weapons work...

Some if not most mindless-killers are experts (at least they know how to use it)
in weaponry but shit with other stuff.

[crysisnova]

The funny thing is, this sort of thing where a character acts ignorant to obviously set up a puzzle wouldn't seem nearly so out of place in Monkey Island or Sam & Max or even Back to the Future. But the characters in Walking Dead are so realistically written that it stands out.

Sam & Max
Season 1/2/3: Sam is reluctant to shooting, or hurting people and never seems to want to kill them no matter how evil they are...

Comics:
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg616/Antuan_Robinson/samo-o.png
... o_o Sam can sound like a sadist sometimes...

[CapnJay]

She either hadn't finish it yet, or her roommate replaces it for her or she buys a new one when it stops working.
:o
or maybe just maybe, as some may not believe it
She don't have such a toy. :)



What Kind of Roommate Randomly/Generously replaces Sex Toy Batteries

[zenstrata]

perhaps it was a shared toy?

[omegadk1]

As someone who works in tech support - it is not hard for me to believe that she could be so stupid as to not know there are no batteries in the radio, and how to put them in. I lol'd at this situation and it reminded me of conversations I have had with customers.

Customer " My cable box won't turn on"

Me "Does the remote light blink?"

Customer "No?!"

Me "Then the bateries are dead"

Customer "oh, it needs batteries?"

Me "Yes"

Customer "Oh, they are in the box... here I'll put them in... it's still not working!"

Me "Did you put them in right?"

Customer ".... Oh, it's working now" *Click*

So - in review, people are this dumb...

[CapnJay]

perhaps it was a shared toy?

*Stares off into space glassy eyed and drooling imagining carley and felicia day as roommates who share a sex toy . *

[Istibul]

So - in review, people are this dumb...
That's why they should die first in Zombocalypse :D

[weekendrockstar]

I haven't read ALL 10 pages so anything I mention here might be redundant in a way but I'll say it anyway:

While the situation did strike me as a little ridiculous as it was happening further thought has lead me to the conclusions others had about stress and it is possible to forget something that seems so obvious. If it was obvious to you..then congratulations! You might be of value to the group of survivors survivors you come across when the zombipocalypse begins! :D

However from a story standpoint it makes even more sense. You do not know at the time (unless you've read "spoilers" on the forums) that you will have to make a choice between the two. The scene inside the gate at the pharmacies front door where Doug figures out how to reprogram the universal remote shows that he has at least a bit of technological know how while she has apparently very little. So it sets up a technology versus use of firearms scenario for you to make your decision.

Some wanted to save Doug because of his technological knowledge however he states to Lee that he memorized codes while in AV club. So that could possibly limit what he can actually accomplish technologically. Once the whole season is over I will replay each episode and make different choices and perhaps I'll find out if his knowledge is of any help as the season progresses in which he lives.

And the third reason for this seemingly ridiculous scenario was a vehicle to get to find out more about her. Obviously the game is built on how other characters perceive the Lee that you play so we should be concerned by the lives of the survivors around us. And we really knew nothing about Doug other than AV club and the fact that he somehow saved Carley from Walkers.

And I also chose Carley (and according to the stats at the end of the episode an overwhelming majority did also, if I remember correctly) because she came out on the mission to save Glenn when it was just the two of you. And because of the conversation after meeting the woman at the motel and the one in the pharmacy office she has greater insight into the character that Lee is. And if it's ever necessary, which with a story like this it sure seems that it would be, she is that much more aware of what he's gone through to save other people and to make tough decisions which probably end up being for the best. Hopefully.

Doug just stood by the open gate telling Lee to hurry. That's all I need for four more episodes (or until I had Lee kill him off himself)...have him nagging without lending a hand. Although it'll probably turn out that if I'd saved him that he would find some spare parts to create Ghostbuster style proton packs which vaporize zombies...and runs on batteries just to make me feel that much better about saving him.

[Vold]

So - in review, people are this dumb...

Now that u mentioned this, I remembered something in the opposite point of view, well actually its both the customer & customer service who erred

There was a printer issue, spent dunno how long trying to resolve it.

I walk up heard what the problem is, take a look at it & saw the wire was not plug to the pc.
:D

Isn't it the number 1 question for cust. services (IT services) to ask, if its plugged in?
:)

[WRONGonRED]

Even my 7 year old son knows what a battery is.

[Lachi]

Even my 7 year old son knows what a battery is.Relevance? Some know what a battery is, some don't. Some know how to handle batteries, some don't. Some know how batteries work, some don't.

Did you read what omegadk1 wrote some post above?

[Milosuperspesh]

here's the flip side most people will know what a gun is and with the possible exception of the safety catch and the ammo running out most people could shoot one, maybe not accurately but still...

so these parallels could go on for ages ;)

[CapnJay]

What Carley was really thinking


Carley: So Tired... Ugh no batteries in this thing. Maybe Lee could go find them and put them in. and then maybe he can find me some coffee

[ADavidson]

Yeah, never underestimate woman's ability to "play dumb" to get someone else to do things for her....

[CapnJay]

In the next episode she convinces Lee to find her some Coffee

[Vold]

In the next episode she convinces Lee to find her some Coffee

As a reward she gives a candy. :D

[Lars80]

Yeah, never underestimate woman's ability to "play dumb" to get someone else to do things for her....

Women do it all the time.
While the average woman is smarter than the average man.

I am amazed so many in here fell for the battery trick. Havent you guys ever been with a woman?!

[CapnJay]

Women do it all the time.
While the average woman is smarter than the average man.

I am amazed so many in here fell for the battery trick. Havent you guys ever been with a woman?!

When i first and last started dating i was tricked out of 200 dollars, an xbox a ds and several games by the girl i had been dating for only a month then about a month or two later she dumped me when i lost my job.

[Milosuperspesh]

later she dumped me when i lost my job.

totally feel you pain mate!

[CapnJay]

totally feel you pain mate!

thanks

[Vold]

Haven't experienced that in any of my dates...

all went well, didn't cost more than we'd normally spend in a day...
kept in contact with them, circumstances just couldn't kept it going for long...
:(

the twist I guess, is they're the one who either dress for the occasion or in person called our outing a date...
:)

Well I did met one who I had an opposite reaction...
people say they try to get things out of us... but with her, when I did something to help her, she ask
"why r u doing this?"

Out of curiosity, how would u respond to that line? I was blank at that time...
:confused:

[CapnJay]

Haven't experienced that in any of my dates...

all went well, didn't cost more than we'd normally spend in a day...
kept in contact with them, circumstances just couldn't kept it going for long...
:(

the twist I guess, is they're the one who either dress for the occasion or in person called our outing a date...
:)

Well I did met one who I had an opposite reaction...
people say they try to get things out of us... but with her, when I did something to help her, she ask
"why r u doing this?"

Out of curiosity, how would u respond to that line? I was blank at that time...
:confused:

Can you clarify that?

[Vold]

Can you clarify that?

Helping out with a chore (spelling?)
she was busy, i just lend a hand.

& we already know each other for a few weeks b4 that day.

[CapnJay]

Helping out with a chore (spelling?)
she was busy, i just lend a hand.

& we already know each other for a few weeks b4 that day.

So basically she was confused as to why your being a nice guy to her?

[Vold]

So basically she was confused as to why your being a nice guy to her?

I guess...

[CapnJay]

I guess...

Sounds like she's never had people being nice to her without wanting somethng like sex and she's confused at general niceness her mind is warped that Good deed = Sex



Just my opinion commander no need to go spreading it around

[Lars80]

When i first and last started dating i was tricked out of 200 dollars, an xbox a ds and several games by the girl i had been dating for only a month then about a month or two later she dumped me when i lost my job.

You got off easy then.
Lucky bastard.

[Lars80]

When i first and last started dating i was tricked out of 200 dollars, an xbox a ds and several games by the girl i had been dating for only a month then about a month or two later she dumped me when i lost my job.

You got off easy then.
Lucky bastard.

[Ballto]

When I played through it I couldn't say anything but "Fuck this bitch is stupid!". Like seriously... how do you not know that a radio needs batteries? And then to put them in wrong despite there being a clear and obvious picture that shows which why they go in. It's one of the two reasons why I saved her instead of Dave, I figured "This bitch is so stupid she doesn't even know how to work a radio, she needs my help more than Dave.", The other reason I saved her is because I weighed their strengths, and in my mind the woman who is a deadeye with her gun is more valuable than the tech geek in the Zombie apocalypse.
What's funny about me making that choice is that afterwords when Clementine had her broken radio and was crying I thought to myself "DAMNIT! If Dave was here he could fix it!" XD
Life's a bitch like that.

[Drake Sigar]

Let's see what we have here:

1. She doesn't check for batteries.

2. When Lee offers to find some, she says "thanks, I wouldn't know what to look for."

3. She puts the batteries in the wrong way round.

Individually these three moments aren't that bad (she was tired, we've all know someone who's put the batteries in the wrong way round, and checking the power source is the number one answer on customer service lines for a reason), but put them all together and they make a trifecta of stupid.

[ADavidson]

Maybe she's racist and likes makin the black guy work for her?
Or she likes Lee and is playing dumb to see if he'll do things for her?
Or she's the dumbest news reporter in history! And that's saying something...

[CapnJay]

we'll find out in future episodes

[ADavidson]

Or not if she's dead ;op

[CapnJay]

Or not if she's dead ;op

Or leaves the group

[Milosuperspesh]

nah i mean gothy/ short hair looks like a man, rough voice and tattoos/piercings heavy drinkers

lilly maybe a hardass but she still looks feminine

[CapnJay]

nah i mean gothy/ short hair looks like a man, rough voice and tattoos/piercings heavy drinkers

lilly maybe a hardass but she still looks feminine

Gothy *cocks Eyebrow*

[Milosuperspesh]

Gothy *cocks Eyebrow*

black make up chains/ maybe more biker chique than goth lol

leather clothes/pvc/ chains doc martin boots lol

[CapnJay]

black make up chains/ maybe more biker chique than goth lol

leather clothes/pvc/ chains doc martin boots lol

Biker maybe but not gothy . even chubby girls can pull of gothy

[Milosuperspesh]

Biker maybe but not gothy . even chubby girls can pull of gothy

true dat !

[WabbitTwaks]

And so the conversation degenerates from why Carley doesn't know how to use batteries to homosexual fashion statements. *facepalm*

Staying with a threads topic is always preferred, fellas. Perhaps take the back and forth banter between the two of you to PMs? Thanks.

[Vainamoinen]

You're going to be a moderator someday. I feel it.

[Milosuperspesh]

lol sorry peeps

[CapnJay]

so ....uh... whats the deal with Batteries are they Bats or are they teries?

[patchcookie]

maybe she has never had anything that takes batteries like that old radio or maybe she didn't think that a drugstore would have batteries. then again she could just be dumb when it comes to tech stuff

[CapnJay]

Ya know If Carley comes from a Rich family it could be she just threw out anything that stops working. Or maybe she has bad eyesight but has never got glasses .

[Kiel555]

And so the conversation degenerates from why Carley doesn't know how to use batteries to homosexual fashion statements. *facepalm*

Staying with a threads topic is always preferred, fellas. Perhaps take the back and forth banter between the two of you to PMs? Thanks.

Whew, looks like the next episode for this game needs to arrive....soon.

[SkatesSC]

Do not read this posting, if you haven't played the game yet. Knowing this part of the plot will most certainly annihilate all your pleasure of playing the game. You have been warned... In fact, don't read it at all because it's stupid.

Yes, it was very funny to encounter the problems that Carly had with her radio, but seriously? That kind of destroyed the atmosphere a little. How can a person be that stupid? Even in such a stressful situation...

1.) She doesn't check for batteries in the radio, when it doesn't work?
2.) She doesn't know how batteries look like? "I wouldn't know what to look for"
3.) She puts them in the wrong way?

w00T? Clementine is smarter, than her. She knows how to operate a radio (wt)! Anyway, this element of the game might be too humoristic. It kind of counteracts the tension of the sincerity of the situation they're in.

I'm amazed that she stayed alive that long. Well, she probably will always need somebody to save her ... like Doug and Lee (if you choose to) did. Does this make her valuable for the player? Because men feel good about helping the helpless damsel in distress? But to be honest ... she won't survive episode 2 anyway, right? She probably kills a lurker halfway, gets bitten and then she walks backwards in a pitchfork or something.

I didn't read every post so I hope I'm not rehashing what someone else already said but here is my take on it:

Yes, it is a very very poor example of what the devs were trying to accomplish, it was way too common sense to make their point. The whole reasoning behind it (in my opinion) though is to further showcase the fact that if you save Doug, you have a "tech" guy on your side. If you save Carly you have a sharpshooter on your side. The broken radio was just to showcase the fact that saving her means you lose someone with tech expertise in Doug. I agree though, the whole thing was silly, but I appreciate the reasoning behind it being there. Should have been something a bit more high tech they were trying to get working though to showcase the point, not batteries in a radio.

[zounds!]

Just gonna put my 2 cents in and say I really didn't like this puzzle at all. Sure you can come up with all sorts of justifications for it, but I think in the end it's that it's just kinda dumb. It also made me feel a little uneasy, it's needlessly chauvinistic. Instead of the radio being the "deciding factor" for choosing who dies it could've been something a little more complex. The player could've still had to figure out how to get the radio working, but it definitely didn't need the whole "I can't figure it out 'cuz I'm a girl" scenario.

Yes, I'm aware that the books/TV show contain the same sort of vibes sometimes (The women doing laundry/childcare etc.) but it also features some bad-ass female characters like Michone and to a lesser extent, Andrea so it feels a little more balanced.

[CapnJay]

I can't tell if the puzzle was quickly put together or if the antenna bit was just a red hairing it would have been interesting if after putting the batteries in right then extending the antenna then turning up the volume then pressing power everything comes in clearly antenna not up means its fuzzy volume not up means it's too quiet. etc

[Lachi]

.. but it definitely didn't need the whole "I can't figure it out 'cuz I'm a girl" scenario. I don't think it has anything to do with the gender, at least she does not behave very "girl like".

I can't tell if the puzzle was quickly put together or if the antenna bit was just a red hairing it would have been interesting if after putting the batteries in right then extending the antenna then turning up the volume then pressing power everything comes in clearly antenna not up means its fuzzy volume not up means it's too quiet. etc
I never touched the antenna or the volume so I cannot tell if there are differences in the sound quality but I heard that if you move up the volume, it will attract the zombies once you get it working. If this is true, I think it has nothing to the with "quickly put together" but rather "keep it simple for the inexperienced player".

[Milosuperspesh]

puzzle ? no merely an interaction 'vehicle' to get to know and judge carly....
so i read/heard some where this game is about the survival of lee and queen clem and thats the focus but it has some puzzles in to make it more interesting/fun..


I never touched the antenna or the volume so I cannot tell if there are differences in the sound quality but I heard that if you move up the volume, it will attract the zombies once you get it working. If this is true, I think it has nothing to the with "quickly put together" but rather "keep it simple for the inexperienced player".

i also moved the volume but before the batteries where in no zombies came...can you do it again and take a screen cap ?

[Lachi]

I wrote "... I heard that ..." but it should be "... I read that ...".
Meaning that I did not experienced it myself but read it in these forums.
But I like to try it nevertheless just to see what happens.

[Milosuperspesh]

I wrote "... I heard that ..." but it should be "... I read that ...".
Meaning that I did not experienced it myself but read it in these forums.
But I like to try it nevertheless just to see what happens.

mybad

[WabbitTwaks]

You're going to be a moderator someday. I feel it.
Why would you threaten me like that? I thought we were friends. ;) :D hehe

[WabbitTwaks]

I can confirm that the antenna and volume control have no affect on the results. I tried it both ways during my plays with the same exact results.

[Galan_Vaurek]

I guess I just do not understand why people insist that it is impossible for Carley not to know how to work through her battery problem alone. Why is it impossible? Just because it is common knowledge? I have met plenty of people who have no common sense and even less common knowledge. lol. And they aren't even in the middle of a zombiepocolypse!

No, it isn't completely out of the realm of possibility that *some people* wouldn't think of batteries for a radio. But Carley is/was a radio journalist. That means she had to have SOME interest in radio, right? To think that a person with enough interest in radio to become a radio journalist, and NOT KNOW that a radio needs batteries to function, is at best absurd. At worst, really effing stupid.

Now, in reading the many 'possibilities' of the reasons (story-wise) for Carley to be so *stupid* was that she had a thing for Doug, and wanted to make a situation that HE, not Lee, would help her... That makes at least a little sense to me. But trying to make a case where an adult, professional woman, in radio journalism, didn't know to check for batteries... is just asinine.

[El_Dores]

Yeah, I find it a bit weird that there's a tech specialist who can reprogramme a remote there, right next to where she's fixing a radio, and thier stumped by the batteries. But it's the same thing with the food you find, its pretty blatent where it is, but everyones taking part in a hunger strike until you give them some attention.

Hope Carly doesnt peg it in the next episode, it would make saving her feel kind of meaningless. Rather let us get attached to whomever we saved, then make a life/death saviour decision in the final chapter.

[yungdragon210]

isn't there two walkie talkies Glenn had one and Clem had one wheres the one Glenn had?

When Clem got grabbed, she tripped and broke the other one.

[Milosuperspesh]

No, it isn't completely out of the realm of possibility that *some people* wouldn't think of batteries for a radio. But Carley is/was a radio journalist. That means she had to have SOME interest in radio, right? To think that a person with enough interest in radio to become a radio journalist, and NOT KNOW that a radio needs batteries to function, is at best absurd. At worst, really effing stupid.

Now, in reading the many 'possibilities' of the reasons (story-wise) for Carley to be so *stupid* was that she had a thing for Doug, and wanted to make a situation that HE, not Lee, would help her... That makes at least a little sense to me. But trying to make a case where an adult, professional woman, in radio journalism, didn't know to check for batteries... is just asinine.


the thing is carly may have wanted to become a reporter for a radio station because of the travel options the meeting new people and the attention, but that job has nothing to do with an actual radio device does it ? she maybe the star of the show but she wouldn't necessarily have used a radio that much out side the office where as someone else pointed out tech guys would of kept it working for her...it's easy to miss the bigger picture...

but think how many tv actors/movie stars can't work they own tv/dvd/blu ray system ? heck could they put in a scart lead /hdmi lead / aerial ? so thick they get there kids or butler or house maids to do it or pay a professional....

[CapnJay]

What if carley isn't a radio reporter and is lying?