Larry got his own support group now? (SPOLIERS)

[Chinasyndrome]

So I got thru my first run of TWD Ep II and in the ending stats I saw that 65% had tried to save Larry. This seems strange to me since I have seen noting but hate for Larry around the forum,but I like Larry. I wanted Duck out on his ass just as much as Larry did but I could not say that about Kennys boy, Kenny has a bout after all.

But to the point, have everyone suddenly change thier mind about Larry or do you have your own agenda like Kenny? Only he killed Larry...

Edit:I reserve myself for might have read the stats wrong(But I did not)

[Bikes]

It has to do more with trying to save someone versus preemptively killing them. Sure they hate him, but it doesn't mean everyone wants to just kill him. I personally figured he was screwed either way, so I figured I'd do the nice thing and try and help.

[RMJ1984]

There is only one right choice in that scene, the devs kinda messed up. No matter what your only option is to try and save him, why?.

because if your so worried about him changing to a zombie, then just sit ready nearby with that salt stone and then crash his head in 1 sec.

It makes no sense to just kill him none what so ever. Its not like he is gonna turn in 1sec and fly up onto his feet in that same 1 sec and then kill everyone in the room.

You dont kill people you have a chance of saving.

[Gennadios]

I'll chalk it up to good writing. In EP1 Kenny was just looking after his family and Lee was around a group he wasn't familiar with and didn't know what to expect.

In EP2 that looking after his family started turning into downright selfishness and Lily seemed extremely tired and was taking the blame for any problems that cropped up. I did it more for her than anything.

The horrible spoiler related stuff she'll end up doing in the comics really sucks though.

[Chinasyndrome]

It has to do more with trying to save someone versus preemptively killing them. Sure they hate him, but it doesn't mean everyone wants to just kill him. I personally figured he was screwed either way, so I figured I'd do the nice thing and try and help.

Maybe I were naive to think I could save his sorry ass. but I would have stabalized the group and the only one who knows Lee is a killer would have won his life.

instead its fuc*ed up worse then ever before... not that thier was much before but still

[iamhere]

larry was a dick but i still didnt want his blood on my hands, anyway i thought maybe he really wasnt dead and thought i at least wait for him to turn before kenny can say "i told you so"

i was very shocked when kenny killed him beacuse i swear to god he gasped just before his brains got smashed in.

[WowMutt]

personally, I didnt even attempt to save Larry. After that punch in EP1 in the drugstore where he tried to leave Lee for the walkers, I swore Larry would die as soon as was possible. I was a little surprised to see how my score on that was like 16% in the minority. But I figured, if he didnt die then, I would possibly have to fight him as a walker or later on. Lee killed his brother getting the keys to the pharmacy to save Larry just to have Larry try to kill him.. Dude had to go.

[Gennadios]

Lee killed his brother getting the keys to the pharmacy to save Larry just to have Larry try to kill him...

Lee's brother was already dead. Thank kind of sentimentality has no place in a zombie apocalypse.

[WowMutt]

Lee's brother was already dead. Thank kind of sentimentality has no place in a zombie apocalypse.

True, his brother was already a walker, but to have to risk his own life, finish off his own brother, just to save the life of someone that would try to kill him after, put Larry on the short list!

[Oomi]

Since the end of episode 1 up to the point I had to make this decision I kept telling myself the first chance I got I'd take Larry out, especially after he knocked me out at the drugstore. But, that's surprisingly not what happened. My gut reaction was to try saving him even though he was a jerk towards me. And, it honestly made me feel sick to my stomach holding Lilly back when I played through again to see what would happen if I picked to help kill Larry. :(

[coryay113]

Lee's brother was already dead. Thank kind of sentimentality has no place in a zombie apocalypse.

Exactly killing a walker is a merciful thing, while in the normal world killing a human is murder. That's why a zombie apocalypse would mentally own people.

[denziel07]

Like it's been said before, I don't buy the we can't kill him when he comes back thing. Walkers are genuinely slow to reanimate and less of a threat alone (going off the lore). Also the hypocrisy was high with Kenny, who didn't want us to kill his own son with that whole thing. Man Kenny is one spineless weak individual, feel sorry for his family when I kick him out.

[Masta23]

Larry was an a****** yes, but he was the only family Lilly had. That's why I tried to save him.

[WowMutt]

Larry was an a**** yes, but he was the only family Lilly had. That's why I tried to save him.

I know, and perhap's their will be reprocussions with killing her dad in a future episode. But after he tried to kill Lee in EP1, and not wanting to risk fighting him as a walker in a locked meat locker, I took it as the only thing to do.

Like I said in another thread here, I played EP2 much more heartless and with survival as the focus more than making pal's!

Edit to add: With the exception of Kenny. He's got a boat.. that is my ultimate goal! Keep Lee, Clem and Kenny and his family alive in order to get to the boat.

[Gman5852]

I chose to attempt to save Larry.

I am not going have killing him on my hands, and besides that, he did save my life at the beginning of episode 2.

[Masta23]

I know, and perhap's their will be reprocussions with killing her dad in a future episode. But after he tried to kill Lee in EP1, and not wanting to risk fighting him as a walker in a locked meat locker, I took it as the only thing to do.

Like I said in another thread here, I played EP2 much more heartless and with survival as the focus more than making pal's!
On this playthrough, my Lee is not a monster. He tries to see the good in everyone. I began to understand that Lilly and Larry need one another. It would have been heartless to side with Kenny.

[DickDanger]

I need to save clem at all costs and Larry never did anything to show that he was on the level with all the complaining he did. To be honest I don't care much for Lily either.

So obviously I agree, I didn't understand why so many people were trying to save him.

[derella]

I tried to save him. Don't get me wrong -- I hated Larry. I too swore I would leave him behind if given the chance after Episode 1... But well, Clementine was there. I didn't want her to witness that.

[Dr Lance VanBoobenHousen]

larry was a dick but i still didnt want his blood on my hands

Think how lilly feels, she got it all over her face!

[Chinasyndrome]

I chose to attempt to save Larry.

I am not going have killing him on my hands, and besides that, he did save my life at the beginning of episode 2.

But that is only becouse you gave him the axe instead of giving it to Mark,would that have changed your choise?

[Keivash]

I hated Larry before I got to understand him. I read his profile on the main page a while back and it said he was a retired army commander. After I read that, I can understand his disgust in a convicted murderer.

I know Lee claims self defense but to a man with serious discipline like Larry, Lee is seriously lacking. Lee told Carley in my game that he knew about the affair. So something must have happened to set everything off. Maybe he snapped, maybe he didn't but Larry doesn't give a crap.

Kenny totally became the new "bad guy". Had to be someone.

[Chinasyndrome]

A crayz little idea just came to mind...

What if Larry knew something about Kenny? Something bad enough to make Kenny wanna get rid of him as fast as possible? Its been 3 months since ep I right? Much could have happend.

[TG77lead]

I killed Larry.... Yes he was a jerk but i understood he was good on the inside... Still.. I killed em. Kenny is meh bro. I dont want to f*** that up. Anyway if he turned even though walkers are slow, i still dont want to take the chance of someone getting bit.

[NeonBlade]

Make no mistake. I would have killed Larry eventually, but that was not the right time. I chose to save him, if he had woken up fine, if he turned into a Walker he would be bludgeoned.

My plan for Larry was similar to what he did to me, leave me for dead in a crucial situation, but make sure he couldn't get out alive, but not like that, not the way Kenny did it. Absolute coward.

[CapnJay]

Kennys dark secret is he's floridian

[macil]

There is only one right choice in that scene, the devs kinda messed up. No matter what your only option is to try and save him, why?.

because if your so worried about him changing to a zombie, then just sit ready nearby with that salt stone and then crash his head in 1 sec.

It makes no sense to just kill him none what so ever. Its not like he is gonna turn in 1sec and fly up onto his feet in that same 1 sec and then kill everyone in the room.

You dont kill people you have a chance of saving.

/thread

But if we need additional reasons, Larry does loosen up a bit if you tell Mark you think he's just protecting his daughter (who then tells Larry) and I think he would have warmed up to you eventually if you kept exercising patience.

[Shookones]

I hated the guy so much that I wished it was me that smashed his head instead of Kenny he was a asshole and he was always threatening to tell the group about what Lee did. He needed to be GONE!!!!!!!!!

[Beatnick]

Larry was also the only one left (other then Clem maybe) who knew Lee's Secret. I still think Larry would have been a character you could have won over through good deeds. Possibly saved his daughter from some rampaging rapist or something ;) However, if you saved Doug, now your as clean as a new school chalkboard. No one knows you actually are a convict. Possible benefits, and consequences anyone?

[Vainamoinen]

You dont kill people you have a chance of saving.

That's it, China.

Whatever Larry had done to Lee, however grumpy he was, he was just trying to protect his daughter (and Clementine!!) from potential threats. He was helping the group as much as he could with his physical strength. And shortly before his death, we could even see him socializing with other people again. But even if he didn't do all that, killing him without being absolutely sure that he'd turn into a zombie... I think that would have been the wrong call.

[Snuckles]

I tried to save him but not for him or for Lilly. I did it just so Clementine didn't have to see him get murdered. I hear that if you kill him, she asks you why you did it and looks at you as a murderer from that point on. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. Even though I hated Larry more than anyone else in the group, I don't regret my decision.

[ruairi46]

Kenny hopefully can die in the next episode. I have a fealing lilly is going to leave soon. ='(

[Nekator]

Well i couldn´t have cared less if the a** died, but his daughter is important for the group and actually the player learns to understand her. So i at least tried to help her and so help Larry.

Quite tricky situation all in all, well done Telltale.

[Vainamoinen]

Kenny hopefully can die in the next episode. I have a fealing lilly is going to leave soon. ='(

They must be careful on whom they tread now. You have established a lot of group dynamics. Kill a character, kill the group dynamics. If they kill off Kenny or Lilly in episode three, was it even of any worth to establish, inch by inch, that they must hate each other to the core (if Kenny killed her father, that is)?

[The_Ripper]

I sided with Kenny in bashing the Larry's ¿corpse? head off. I can't forget the fact that Larry TRIED TO KILL LEE IN THE DRUGSTORE.

He had a heart attack, he doesn't breathe... enough for me. If we weren't act quickly he would become to a zombie and the situation would be worse.

Lilly didn't help me out when I was fighting in the last scene. It's normal...

I tried to give her food at the beginning but told me that she didn't want anything from me. I told her "Ok, crap for you, I'll keep it". I don't side with her or her father at anytime. I think she sees Lee as an enemy now, lol. Of course, in the episode ending, Kenny now ASK Lee to come with him and their family in the RV. He's not suggesting, ASK to Lee.

Here my two cents.

[jessicamariedee]

larry was a dick but i still didnt want his blood on my hands, anyway i thought maybe he really wasnt dead and thought i at least wait for him to turn before kenny can say "i told you so"

i was very shocked when kenny killed him beacuse i swear to god he gasped just before his brains got smashed in.

Confirmed by a developer/moderator in another thread. If you perform CPR quickly enough, Larry does breathe in.

I chose to 'save' Larry. It was a huge defining moment for Lee and Kenny, who until that point had been very close. All through episode one, I found myself siding with Kenny. Episode 2, I started sympathizing with Lily. Larry never meant anything to me personally-- but he wasn't dead yet.

I didn't care who was the group leader, I didn't really care who my friends were and weren't-- Larry wasn't dead yet. If we could save him by trying CPR for a few minutes, then we had one more asset in the long run.

I thought Kenny was out of line, but I'm not calling for his head. The group has had enough time to adapt to the new world and figure out where they stand on issues of moral complexity. I'm not about to begrudge Kenny for being willing to make calls that I (and by extension Lee) wouldn't make. I just think it's becoming time for the group to recognize where they stand on certain issues and break off if necessary.

Edited to add: I'm also sure that if it comes down to Duck or Clem, Kenny will find the next salt lick and personally write Clem's name on it. Between running from Shawn in Ep 1, to killing a member of our group who breathed in after CPR, I have no doubts where Kenny will fall when it comes to anything involving the safety of his son. The safety of the group is not Kenny's priority, and I would very much like to leave Kenny's company as soon as possible. For Clem's safety.

[TG77lead]

Confirmed by a developer/moderator in another thread. If you perform CPR quickly enough, Larry does breathe in.

I chose to 'save' Larry. It was a huge defining moment for Lee and Kenny, who until that point had been very close. All through episode one, I found myself siding with Kenny. Episode 2, I started sympathizing with Lily. Larry never meant anything to me personally-- but he wasn't dead yet.

I didn't care who was the group leader, I didn't really care who my friends were and weren't-- Larry wasn't dead yet. If we could save him by trying CPR for a few minutes, then we had one more asset in the long run.

I thought Kenny was out of line, but I'm not calling for his head. The group has had enough time to adapt to the new world and figure out where they stand on issues of moral complexity. I'm not about to begrudge Kenny for being willing to make calls that I (and by extension Lee) wouldn't make. I just think it's becoming time for the group to recognize where they stand on certain issues and break off if necessary.

Edited to add: I'm also sure that if it comes down to Duck or Clem, Kenny will find the next salt lick and personally write Clem's name on it. Between running from Shawn in Ep 1, to killing a member of our group who breathed in after CPR, I have no doubts where Kenny will fall when it comes to anything involving the safety of his son. The safety of the group is not Kenny's priority, and I would very much like to leave Kenny's company as soon as possible. For Clem's safety.

If Kenny tries to kill clem i swear to god i will kill that man. Clem is the best.

[Squeezit]

I tried to save Larry because I wanted to be on Lilly's good side.

Though due to the comics I don't think she's going to stay until the end of episode 5. So Carley comes before Lilly ;o

[kikyouchanx]

Let's make a Larry support group thread then. lol. I also disliked Larry at first, but ehh...

[jessicamariedee]

If Kenny tries to kill clem i swear to god i will kill that man. Clem is the best.

I didn't realize how much I loved her until 2. I mean, I have a soft spot for kids-- but her reaction when Kenny bashed in Larry's head? I will cut anyone who messes with her.

At dinner, when Denny grabbed her, my reaction was literally: "I will kill you dude". Luckily, that was also the only choice I could read on the dialogue wheel in my blind rage.

But yeah, to get back on topic: If Lee, Duck, and Clem were in a situation where zombies were bearing down on them: I feel confident that my Lee would be zombie bait so the kids make a break for it. If Kenny, Duck, and Clem were in the same situation, I'm pretty sure that Clem is getting tripped and left for dead.

No matter how much Kenny makes comments about how protecting children is what "real men do", Duck will always be his priority. And that's okay. Clem is mine. I just think we'll make different sacrifices to ensure the survival of the people we care about.

[Brandedkisame]

If we junped from the end of episdoe one right to this point i might have helped kill Larry, but a lot happened between me and Larry in episode 2 that changed my views on him. When Mark asked me why he was a such an asshole to me i said its because hes looking out for Lily, this came out in conversation later and larry gave a halfass apologie (which is a lot comming from larry) also he saved my life, while giving him the axe is determinant he still could have let me die then kill the zombie, or accidentally kill me. After my conversation with Lily about him being hardened and loosing everyone but Lily i also understood more about him. Finally in the meat locker i said i wasent his enemy as and he responded as if im a threat. My reasoning behind this is that Larry only sees Lee as a threat becasue of his murder and fears that he might do something to harm anyone, i had a feeling that if you saved his life his tune twords lee would have changed, especially if he found out Kenny wanted to smash his head in and Lee defended him instead of getting rid of (in my case) the only person who knows about his past. As much of an asshole Larry was his death hit me hard, he will be missed

[Brandedkisame]

Confirmed by a developer/moderator in another thread. If you perform CPR quickly enough, Larry does breathe in.

I chose to 'save' Larry. It was a huge defining moment for Lee and Kenny, who until that point had been very close. All through episode one, I found myself siding with Kenny. Episode 2, I started sympathizing with Lily. Larry never meant anything to me personally-- but he wasn't dead yet.

I didn't care who was the group leader, I didn't really care who my friends were and weren't-- Larry wasn't dead yet. If we could save him by trying CPR for a few minutes, then we had one more asset in the long run.

I thought Kenny was out of line, but I'm not calling for his head. The group has had enough time to adapt to the new world and figure out where they stand on issues of moral complexity. I'm not about to begrudge Kenny for being willing to make calls that I (and by extension Lee) wouldn't make. I just think it's becoming time for the group to recognize where they stand on certain issues and break off if necessary.

Edited to add: I'm also sure that if it comes down to Duck or Clem, Kenny will find the next salt lick and personally write Clem's name on it. Between running from Shawn in Ep 1, to killing a member of our group who breathed in after CPR, I have no doubts where Kenny will fall when it comes to anything involving the safety of his son. The safety of the group is not Kenny's priority, and I would very much like to leave Kenny's company as soon as possible. For Clem's safety.

heed Herschels warnings :D

[Steve2911]

I disliked and went against Larry the whole time (although I gave him some of the food, as an olive branch to Lilly more than anything), but there was no way I was going to crush his head over the slight possibility of him reanimating.

[Masta23]

I tried to save Larry because I wanted to be on Lilly's good side.

Though due to the comics I don't think she's going to stay until the end of episode 5. So Carley comes before Lilly ;o
oh I didn't realise Lilly was in the comics. I only read my compendium 1 through once, so I guess I forgot who she was. She did kill Lori, but had no idea she was pregnant, but she also killed the govenor, after she realises how evil he is . Now that I know, I don't know if it has changed my opinion about her, but then again we don't know the circumstances which led up to it. I'm guessing that she was influenced by the govenor in a big way, and didn't know how to stand up to him? What do you think?

[Gman5852]

But that is only becouse you gave him the axe instead of giving it to Mark,would that have changed your choise?

No because he still saved me. The fact that he ran to my rescue means something in all this.

[Chinasyndrome]

Kennys dark secret is he's floridian

Most fun thing it the game so far gotta be Kennys racist remark about Lee being urban and should know how to pick locks...
And Kennys excuse to say this is that he is from Florida... I really did "LOL" at that point.

[Chinasyndrome]

Think how lilly feels, she got it all over her face!

I saw kenny lock at the block of salt lick and thought "Oh shit Kenny is gonna crush Larrys head whit that, shit is about to hit the fan in here and I dont have an umbrella"

[Zombieface]

I helped kill that fucker cause Kenny was right! His heart had stopped, who knew how fast he would turn... 6 foot 300 lb zombie locked in a small room with like 6 people.. who knows how many of us he would get before we could take him down.. after he took care of Lilly I'm sure he would have gone straight for Clem! It had to be done. I was NOT going to be down there by his face if he was going to turn soon! Sorry Lilly.. and may you rest in peace, Larry, you old bastard lol.

[Lars80]

Larry is not as tough as he tries to be.
Like Lilly said, hes gone through alot.
It's a pity it had to go that way.

[Lars80]

Oh. And about Larry's death scene.
I am going to assume that since 3 months have passed Larry and Lee have somewhat made up after the punching scene at the end of Ep1.

As always i try to play a game as if it was me in the situation.
When Larry dropped the EMT in me took over, i couldnt side with Kenny, how could i? Its against everything i stand for. But there are a few things to be aware of.

1. If you get a heart attack that severe. Unconcious and not breathing after three seconds? Thats it. You are dead, no matter how hard anyone tries.

2. There was no LP-15 in that room, and in a situation like this you need a defibrilator.

3. Lilly was doing CPR wrong. (Shame on you telltale)

So what did i do? In that situation i would have "tried" even if i knew there was no hope, so that is what i did. Lilly needed time and i wasnt gonna shatter her hope, even if i knew there was no hope. And i wouldnt want her to spend the rest of her life thinking we gave up Larry without trying.

Kenny smashed his head and became the bad guy. I understand why he did it, and i wish i had the option to tell him later that i dont hold it against him. But that wasnt an option.

[Cornson]

I killed Larry of the second I had the chance I told ya, the second I get the change he is a dead man!

sadly he was already dead of a heart attack though, so I feel I was cheated out of my revenge! (was I really the only one who felt like this?)

I wanted to kill him myself, not led him die from a hearth attack and then just making sure that he would not come back as a zombie... but ohh well at least he is dead! and at least this doesn't make people suspicious about me sins everyone knows how he died and that it was Kenny that smashed his head in...

:) (so i guess it all worked out in the end)

Now no one knows my secret! :D (that Lee is a convicted murderer)

because I killed off Carley in Episode one because of the fact that she knew who I was and what I did and I never told Clementine that I killed a man, so unless the new guy knows what i did it looked like I'll get away with murder!

Mental note: Find out if the new guy Ben Paul knows about my crime and if he do, find a way to quietly kill him off without getting caught.

[jessicamariedee]

heed Herschels warnings :D

I can learn a lot from Dr. Greene, so long as I don't believe that decomposition can be cured. Silly, desperate, man.

No because he still saved me. The fact that he ran to my rescue means something in all this.

Agreed. I didn't give Larry the axe, but I wish I had now. I didn't give it to him, because I clearly expected to be cleaved when I least expected it. For him to save you, when he could have let you die (after leaving you to do so once) definitely means something.

Oh. And about Larry's death scene.
I am going to assume that since 3 months have passed Larry and Lee have somewhat made up after the punching scene at the end of Ep1.

As always i try to play a game as if it was me in the situation.
When Larry dropped the EMT in me took over, i couldnt side with Kenny, how could i? Its against everything i stand for. But there are a few things to be aware of.

1. If you get a heart attack that severe. Unconcious and not breathing after three seconds? Thats it. You are dead, no matter how hard anyone tries.

2. There was no LP-15 in that room, and in a situation like this you need a defibrilator.

3. Lilly was doing CPR wrong. (Shame on you telltale)

So what did i do? In that situation i would have "tried" even if i knew there was no hope, so that is what i did. Lilly needed time and i wasnt gonna shatter her hope, even if i knew there was no hope. And i wouldnt want her to spend the rest of her life thinking we gave up Larry without trying.

Kenny smashed his head and became the bad guy. I understand why he did it, and i wish i had the option to tell him later that i dont hold it against him. But that wasnt an option.

I trained as an EMT too, and I think that's what drove a lot of my insistence that he wasn't a goner yet.

As far as Lilly doing CPR wrong, she was understandably distraught and not trained. I can live with her attempts at CPR, as it even makes sense for her to do it wrong. What drives me nuts is watching medical personnel on TV do the equivalent of push ups on cardiac victim's chests. Lock your elbows, bro. Save a life.

When I had Lee kneel down, I was so grateful that I didn't have to do mouth to mouth. That's just what I needed: to have Larry eat my lip while I'm trying to give him the breath of life.

Chest compressions were more than enough for me!

[Lars80]

I trained as an EMT too, and I think that's what drove a lot of my insistence that he wasn't a goner yet.

As far as Lilly doing CPR wrong, she was understandably distraught and not trained. I can live with her attempts at CPR, as it even makes sense for her to do it wrong. What drives me nuts is watching medical personnel on TV do the equivalent of push ups on cardiac victim's chests. Lock your elbows, bro. Save a life.

When I had Lee kneel down, I was so grateful that I didn't have to do mouth to mouth. That's just what I needed: to have Larry eat my lip while I'm trying to give him the breath of life.

Chest compressions were more than enough for me!
Only untrained personel do mouth to mouth. :P
I wouldnt, unless i had a pocket mask.(I always have a pocket mask with me in my backpack so its not a problem.)

And you know Larry was a goner. It was a matter of giving Lilly time to accept and understand it. I dont think she(Or anyone) would ever forgive me if i smashed his(Or someone elses) head in without trying.
But resuscitate someone who has a heart attack and slips into cardiac arrest is nearly impossible. It's a sick heart with little O2 that just decided to give up for a reason. Even with the right gear, medication and personel you got a nearly impossible task.
And you need that defibrillator to reset the heart.

[OZPruduction]

I tried to save him.

When he started breathing and Kenny smashed his head in, I was thinking "JESUS FUCKING CHRIST KENNY HE WAS STILL ALIVE!".

It makes me sad that an honest man like Kenny got so selfish over these 3 months, cares nothing else than his family and who leads the group. I really thought we had something there :-(

[Masta23]

I tried to save him.

When he started breathing and Kenny smashed his head in, I was thinking "JESUS FUCKING CHRIST KENNY HE WAS STILL ALIVE!".

It makes me sad that an honest man like Kenny got so selfish over these 3 months, cares nothing else than his family and who leads the group. I really thought we had something there :-(
True Kenny turned into a right a*******. He changed a lot since episode 1.

[pdlbean]

Oh. And about Larry's death scene.
I am going to assume that since 3 months have passed Larry and Lee have somewhat made up after the punching scene at the end of Ep1.

As always i try to play a game as if it was me in the situation.
When Larry dropped the EMT in me took over, i couldnt side with Kenny, how could i? Its against everything i stand for. But there are a few things to be aware of.

1. If you get a heart attack that severe. Unconcious and not breathing after three seconds? Thats it. You are dead, no matter how hard anyone tries.

2. There was no LP-15 in that room, and in a situation like this you need a defibrilator.

3. Lilly was doing CPR wrong. (Shame on you telltale)

So what did i do? In that situation i would have "tried" even if i knew there was no hope, so that is what i did. Lilly needed time and i wasnt gonna shatter her hope, even if i knew there was no hope. And i wouldnt want her to spend the rest of her life thinking we gave up Larry without trying.

Kenny smashed his head and became the bad guy. I understand why he did it, and i wish i had the option to tell him later that i dont hold it against him. But that wasnt an option.

I wish it was an option to tell Kenny that you understood why he thought he had to do what he did. But the only options were "You murdered him", "You're no hero", and silence. I chose silence and it pissed him off.

[ayemalone]

I tried to save him. It makes me wonder though, since Lilly is in the comics--there is a canon story to the walking dead game. I wonder what Lee (canon) would've done.

[WowMutt]

The ONLY reason I may not have sided with Kenny and killed Larry was Clem's reaction. I still feel killing Larry and keeping Kenny a friend (til we get to the boat then i'll feed him to the fishes) was the wisest thing to do at the time, it's just Clem saw that, but hey, it's a new world of kill or be killed/eaten, so tough it up lil girl!

[leimanaang]

I killed him. The way I looked at it is it seemed to be a severe heart attack and he probably would not recover; if he did there would be so many added complications that someone else or many people would die trying to take care of him (more food, meds, etc...). I know it is kinda heartless but it is me and Clem 1st then Kenny (& family) then Carley and who ever else after that.

[Westyboy]

i was very shocked when kenny killed him beacuse i swear to god he gasped just before his brains got smashed in.

I saw that too, I wish I could've stood up and shoved Kenny aside before he plopped that salt lick down.

[littlezoe]

It has to do more with trying to save someone versus preemptively killing them. Sure they hate him, but it doesn't mean everyone wants to just kill him. I personally figured he was screwed either way, so I figured I'd do the nice thing and try and help.

Exactly my way of thinking of this.

I just didn't want to kill him there, if there is a chance that he might survive... i'm not gonna just kill him for being an asshole to me...

[The_Ripper]

Exactly my way of thinking of this.

I just didn't want to kill him there, if there is a chance that he might survive... i'm not gonna just kill him for being an asshole to me...

If he doesn't survive you will deal with a zombie with a bear's size, not rotten yet, putting in danger all of you, Clem included.

Heart attack, he's not breathing, no pulse, the man tried to kill you three months ago...

It's clear for me, I won't put in danger to anyone cause that guy.

[littlezoe]

If he doesn't survive you will deal with a zombie with a bear's size, not rotten yet, putting in danger all of you, Clem included.

Heart attack, he's not breathing, no pulse, the man tried to kill you three months ago...

It's clear for me, I won't put in danger to anyone cause that guy.

Well, you have a point, but at that moment i had to choose fast... and i'd rather not smash his head until i know for sure that he has no chance to survive.

[The_Ripper]

Well, you have a point, but at that moment i had to choose fast... and i'd rather not smash his head until i know for sure that he has no chance to survive.

I understand your choice. I feel REALLY BAD for Lilly, but it's a consequence for my choice.

You'll have to deal with your consequences too. :(

[Nokando]

Just a small point but...

If someone has a cardiac arrest, unless you have access to a defibrillator or are trained to perform a precordial thump and get lucky, they are dead. CPR will help sustain viability until you can defibrillate, but cannot re-start the heart. So... given Larry's medical history, you know his arrest is of cardiac origin.. he is dead.

Maybe CPR as a purely token gesture would be helpful to Lilly... and waiting a few minutes before brain-smashing would have maybe been more tactful Kenny lol

[jojimbo]

i helped kenny kill him, it hgas its upside, lilly doesnt get covered in gore,
i also let him eat a bit of marks leg :)

[Jazzy]

I tried to save him, but I still don't like him. He attempted to murder you simply because he doesn't like you (he tries to dress it up all prettily as defending his daughter, but considering everything you had done to help so far it doesn't stand up, and still, trying to MURDER someone like that speaks more for his character than any pretty words he might spew out). Saying that he's 'had a hard life' is bollocks, if I have a hard life can I get to kill people I don't like too?

The fact that he was an army commander just means that he should know more than anyone the importance of teamwork. I didn't want him in the group as I could not trust him, but I wouldn't kill him or leave him to die, despite knowing that given the chance he would leave me to die by zombies.

[Rommel49]

I opted to try and save Larry for quite a few reasons, the fact he wouldn't make it was irrelevant.

Chief among them, Lilly's actually somewhat competent (having some military experience and all) and is (was?) actually invested in the group. And say what you want, Lilly and Larry had little things like "integrity" and "honesty". Kenny had none of these things going for him, the twerp's always been the two-faced parasite since he left Shawn Greene to die, has made it clear he's going to abandon the group, etc.

Granted, it wouldn't surprise me if Lilly's opinion and investment in the group (and her view of people in general) went down the crapper after Kenny re-enacted a Gallagher routine with her dad's head.

Granted, Larry ended up having Meat o' Mark for dinner in my playthrough too, but I haven't found a way to keep anyone except Clementine from eating it.

[Jazzy]

I opted to try and save Larry for quite a few reasons, the fact he wouldn't make it was irrelevant.

Chief among them, Lilly's actually somewhat competent (having some military experience and all) and is (was?) actually invested in the group. And say what you want, Lilly and Larry had little things like "integrity" and "honesty". Kenny had none of these things going for him, the twerp's always been the two-faced parasite since he left Shawn Greene to die, has made it clear he's going to abandon the group, etc.

Granted, it wouldn't surprise me if Lilly's opinion and investment in the group (and her view of people in general) went down the crapper after Kenny re-enacted a Gallagher routine with her dad's head.

Granted, Larry ended up having Meat o' Mark for dinner in my playthrough too, but I haven't found a way to keep anyone except Clementine from eating it.

Kenny came back and save me at the end of episode one, Larry tried to kill me. That says more about their 'integrity' to me. Kenny is unreliable, sure, he is quite cowardly but fear makes us do things we regret, but he believed that Larry was already dead and was doing what he thought best. Larry on the other hand nearly killed me deliberately, he wasn't panicking he saw the option to cowardly off me without people knowing and took it.

[hallda12]

I couldnt wait for an opportunity to get rid of larry. I couldnt hit him hard enough with that salt lick, he was a dick and so is his petulant daughter. SHE IS NEXT!

[Rommel49]

Kenny came back and save me at the end of episode one, Larry tried to kill me. That says more about their 'integrity' to me. Kenny is unreliable, sure, he is quite cowardly but fear makes us do things we regret, but he believed that Larry was already dead and was doing what he thought best. Larry on the other hand nearly killed me deliberately, he wasn't panicking he saw the option to cowardly off me without people knowing and took it.

Except for the fact that Larry tried to kill Lee for the safety of the group, considering there's the minor detail that he knew Lee was a convicted murderer. Hell, the guy was on his way to prison when the apocalypse started.

Would you trust a guy convicted of auto theft with your car? I doubt it, so why would you trust a guy convicted of murder with your life, the life of your daughter, and the lives of everyone else in your group?

[TMLC]

I would never say that I liked Larry (hell, I ended the first episode thinking about how I would have a chance to kill him), but I couldn’t kill him that way.

As I said in other topics, I would have tried to save him and asked Kenny to be ready with that block over his head for the moment he died, but I needed to try save him.

He might be an asshole and I’m not saying that I would have done the same as him if we change places, but I can see his point. On his head, I’m a murderer that may kill anyone there or put the whole group in risk at the first chance. Killing him without trying to save him would just prove he is right.

And more important than that, I couldn’t simply do nothing (or worst, kill him) with Lilly there trying to save her father (the only person she had).

The same way I didn’t agreed with Larry to simply kill Duck before he could turn, I wouldn’t agree with Kenny either. If he had a chance to be saved, I would take it (and be ready for the worst, of course).

[interitus]

I originally killed Larry and cackled that he finally got what he deserved. But Clementine saw me as a huge monster so I had to replay that and try and save him so she wouldn't think I was a monster. I hope she appreciates the self satisfaction I gave up for her.



Except for the fact that Larry tried to kill Lee for the safety of the group, considering there's the minor detail that he knew Lee was a convicted murderer. Hell, the guy was on his way to prison when the apocalypse started.

Would you trust a guy convicted of auto theft with your car? I doubt it, so why would you trust a guy convicted of murder with your life, the life of your daughter, and the lives of everyone else in your group?

But Larry also didn't tell anyone. By exposing Lee there is a big chance he would have been kicked out of the group at the very least everyone would stay away from him. By not telling anyone you are trusting them. You could argue Larry was putting people in just as much danger by not exposing a murderer in their ranks. I don't know what Larry's game was. He obviously didn't like Lee, but he didn't out him as being a murderer. It makes me think he didn't view Lee as a danger.

[RoboSheriff]

you don't just drop a salt lick on someones head thats just awful lol

[Sisterofshane]

Okay, so before today I was just some lowly lurker, but I joined specifically to post this reply. Bear with me, it is kind of long...

Let's look at the exact situation we find ourselves in. We are trapped in a meat locker, facing certain death (a gruesome and horrifying death at that, probably worse then what we face at the hands of Walkers). Larry literally cannot stop screaming to save his life, instead of calming down and helping us find a way out. This also makes Lily become preoccupied with calming her father down, as opposed to finding a way out. Larry then has a heart attack that is bad enough to stop his breathing.

Even if we successfully perform resuscitation on Larry, what kind of state is he going to be in? He might not regain consciousness for some time, and even if he did, he would probably not be well enough to make the necessary escape from the farm, under the threat of the cannibals, the bandits, and also the Walkers. His heart attack has just made him a huge liability.

Also, this is the second indication in only three months of exactly how medically fragile Larry is. This puts a limit on his overall usefulness to the group, as he needs to be kept out of jobs/situations that might put a strain on his heart. Despite being careful, his heart is still in a weakened condition, so it might just give out. What if this happens at a time when the group is vulnerable (like if the majority of the group is asleep, or like now, when we are locked in a room with him and no weapons to defend ourselves)? The man is literally a Walker "time bomb".

Finally, Kenny has a very valid point. If Larry turns into a walker, what are three malnourished, unarmed, physically smaller and weaker adults and one child going to do against a walker in that small room? Injuries are almost one hundred percent certain, and would then create further liabilities when we later have to escape the St. John Farm. Heaven forbid he bites someone, and we then have to make the choice to kill that group member, just because we couldn't make the decision to not bring Larry back from certain death and to neutralize him when he was not a threat to anyone.

I made the decision to side with Kenny, and will probably not lose any sleep over it. On top of the reasons listed above, Larry is a polarizing hot head (a HUGE source of conflict and stress within the group). And, while trying to play the moral high card, he tried to murder me, despite the fact that I am singularly responsible for accessing the pharmacy and saving his life, and that I have also saved the life of two children, Glenn, and Doug (if he had his way, we would have been left outside to the Walkers, and both Doug AND Carly would have been left for dead inside the Drug Store). I won't take any flack from Lily, either, because had the roles been reversed, do you think the woman who refused to save the life of a child in not one but two separate occasions would have blinked twice about killing Larry had it not been her dad? I can sympathize with her situation, but I'm not going to pretend that she has higher moral standards than I do.

TLDR; We are dealing with a zombie apocalypse, and have found ourselves in an immediate life or death situation - our moral standards are going to have to be reevaluated. Killing Larry is the pragmatic choice, even though it might be morally reprehensible.

[Jazzy]

Except for the fact that Larry tried to kill Lee for the safety of the group, considering there's the minor detail that he knew Lee was a convicted murderer. Hell, the guy was on his way to prison when the apocalypse started.

Would you trust a guy convicted of auto theft with your car? I doubt it, so why would you trust a guy convicted of murder with your life, the life of your daughter, and the lives of everyone else in your group?

I would trust him if there were zombies about and he had gone out of his way to save my life. Most convicted murderers are not serial killers, most murders are crimes of passion, something that I'm surprised Larry hasn't done himself considering his temper.

Doug/Carley only die because of Larry: the zombies attack because you set the alarm off trying to get Larry's medicine, and yet Larry shows no appreciation for this at all. If he was just protecting the group then why didn't he just expose you to them? Why does he put the group at risk by attacking right there and then when people need each other to survive? Larry doesn't give a shit about the group, he gives the line about 'if anything happens to Clementine!' and yet he does nothing else to show that cares one whit about her and even threatens to kill the other kid in the group, and so I am led to believe he was just looking for excuses.

[Sisterofshane]

you don't just drop a salt lick on someones head thats just awful lol

The guy was already unconscious, and the salt lick caused enough damage that he never would have realized what had happened. I can think of fates worse than that (poor Mark :().

[sublime90]

yeah im not sad to see larry die but i did try helping only because i wanted to save face with lily plus im not a cold blooded murderer like kenny. now if there was a choice like save larry or anyone else....then larry would have been zombie food.

[Rommel49]

But Larry also didn't tell anyone. By exposing Lee there is a big chance he would have been kicked out of the group at the very least everyone would stay away from him. By not telling anyone you are trusting them. You could argue Larry was putting people in just as much danger by not exposing a murderer in their ranks. I don't know what Larry's game was. He obviously didn't like Lee, but he didn't out him as being a murderer. It makes me think he didn't view Lee as a danger.

There was never a particularly good time for Larry to spill the beans on Lee that would've been all that beneficial to the cohesion of the group. The only real chance he had during the episode was when Lee first came into the store with his own group in tow, during an already high-stress crisis (the potential that Duck was going to turn into a Walker), and adding to the drama of "we just let in a kid who's going to turn into an undead cannibal" with "oh, and a murderer too" wasn't likely to help matters (incidentally, Carley actually makes the same observation when she's not as trusting of Lee).

For the rest of the episode right after that, Larry was semi-conscious. He wasn't able to speak in complete sentences again until the very end of Episode 1.

I would trust him if there were zombies about and he had gone out of his way to save my life. Most convicted murderers are not serial killers, most murders are crimes of passion, something that I'm surprised Larry hasn't done himself considering his temper.

Doug/Carley only die because of Larry: the zombies attack because you set the alarm off trying to get Larry's medicine, and yet Larry shows no appreciation for this at all. If he was just protecting the group then why didn't he just expose you to them? Why does he put the group at risk by attacking right there and then when people need each other to survive? Larry doesn't give a shit about the group, he gives the line about 'if anything happens to Clementine!' and yet he does nothing else to show that cares one whit about her and even threatens to kill the other kid in the group, and so I am led to believe he was just looking for excuses.

It's hardly Larry's fault the pharmacy alarm went off: First, we know from Lilly that her group had been trying to break into the pharmacy since they first set foot in the drugstore anyway, before Lee's group even arrived in Macon. Second, nobody objected to the idea of breaking into the pharmacy. Finally, nobody knew about the alarm; not even Lee, and his family owned the place.

By that reasoning, you can lay the blame for Carley/Doug's death squarely at the feet of Lee's group since the confrontation with them was the whole reason Larry needed his medication at the point in the first place.

There's also no reason to assume Larry knew Lee saved his life at the time, the guy doesn't really regain consciousness until after the drugstore was under siege.

The whole reason for the "Duck drama" had to do with the fact he spent time under a hungry walker, came into the store covered with blood and gore, while suspiciously covering part of his arm with his hand (incidentally, the arm he covers is the same one we see under the aforementioned walker's face) and the kid never says a word during the entire exchange. Considering Duck gets Shawn killed, and was the only one seen to keep happily chow down on Mark Meat after Lee tells everyone not to eat it, I wouldn't be surprised if turned out the kid was an undercover Walker :p (joke in bad taste? Maybe, pun intended? Also maybe).

For the vast majority of the time we see Larry in Episode 1, he's either near death and semi-conscious, or there's a "everything's going to hell" crisis. We don't see him in a "relaxed" setting until the very end of Episode 1, which would be the first real chance Lee would have to actually converse with the guy and potentially try to convince him that convicted murderers can be good people too. Hell, by the beginning of Episode 2, Larry's willing to save Lee's life.

[Chinasyndrome]

Kenny came back and save me at the end of episode one, Larry tried to kill me. That says more about their 'integrity' to me. Kenny is unreliable, sure, he is quite cowardly but fear makes us do things we regret, but he believed that Larry was already dead and was doing what he thought best. Larry on the other hand nearly killed me deliberately, he wasn't panicking he saw the option to cowardly off me without people knowing and took it.

If you look at why,it does makes sense he want Lee gone. You dont have to like it but he has a good point. He dont know Lee, a man of Larrys age ought to been brought up in a rather racist community as well. So there is more to it then "Lee is black an a killer so I hate him" you do know that right?

Yes Kenny did save Lee in Ep I but he didnt seem to keen to help when Danny had a gun in your face(might be affected by if you sided whit him on killing Larry or not,Idk).

I can´t shake the feeling that Kenny and Larry was two sides of the same coin only Kenny is a bit more selfish then Larry, both are looking after thier family,sure. But I think Larry was a bit morde "greater good" then Kenny.

[Chinasyndrome]

The guy was already unconscious, and the salt lick caused enough damage that he never would have realized what had happened. I can think of fates worse than that (poor Mark :().

It has been proven that Larry wakes up if your fast enough, picture yourself how time slows down and a block of salt lick is going towards your face, sounds like a nasty last moment to me. But no doubt Marks end was worse,just saying.

[-Anna-]

I changed my opinion of Larry in the second episode, which is why I attempted to save him. c:

At the end of episode 1, I hated Larry because I thought he was naturally stubborn. But in episode 2 I realised that Larry's heart condition, loss of family and desire to protect his only daughter from a supposed murderer (Lee) would impact his personality in a negative way. Because of this realisation, I still disliked him, but didn't outright hate him. Larry is just trying to cope; he doesn't deserve to die.

[Sisterofshane]

It has been proven that Larry wakes up if your fast enough, picture yourself how time slows down and a block of salt lick is going towards your face, sounds like a nasty last moment to me. But no doubt Marks end was worse,just saying.

He never took a breath in my ending, but I made the decision that he was dead and we needed to protect ourselves. I felt bad for Lily, and I don't blame her for her reaction, but she was thinking from a purely emotional standpoint, and Kenny was being purely rational. I tried to mediate between the two (I stalled Kenny as long as possible, and when Larry didn't respond to Lily's attempts to revive him, that's when I finally made a choice to side with Kenny - longest three second of my life!).

Besides, I already made my arguments as to why the practical choice may be just to let Larry die above. I just think that Larry (in my game, at least) got a merciful end to his life. I don't think most of us will be that Lucky in The Walking Dead.

[Jazzy]

If you look at why,it does makes sense he want Lee gone. You dont have to like it but he has a good point. He dont know Lee, a man of Larrys age ought to been brought up in a rather racist community as well. So there is more to it then "Lee is black an a killer so I hate him" you do know that right?

Yes Kenny did save Lee in Ep I but he didnt seem to keen to help when Danny had a gun in your face(might be affected by if you sided whit him on killing Larry or not,Idk).

I can´t shake the feeling that Kenny and Larry was two sides of the same coin only Kenny is a bit more selfish then Larry, both are looking after thier family,sure. But I think Larry was a bit morde "greater good" then Kenny.

I'm sorry but you must be seeing something in Larry that I'm not, but I suppose that's the good thing of not having to live through a zombie apocalypse: you don't get a salt lick on the head for having a difference of opinion. :p ;)

I'm never believed it had anything to do with rascism myself, and I don't recall ever saying that it was so not sure where you got that idea from. There is a difference to me between not helping and deliberately trying to get you killed, Larry did the second and that makes him an attempted murderer, and I think he is just a selfish prick tbh. Oh I know that we are 'informed' by Lily that he has his reasons and that he's just looking out for his daughter, but that doesn't match up with what I observe of his actions. He seems to rather enjoy the benefits of having Lily in charge (he gets extra rations after all, at Clementine's expense no less, someone he claimed to care for but who you never ever see him lift a finger for). In short, from my observations Kenny actually does care for his family despite being a coward while Larry was just a selfcentred dick, but YMMV.

[Jazzy]

There was never a particularly good time for Larry to spill the beans on Lee that would've been all that beneficial to the cohesion of the group. The only real chance he had during the episode was when Lee first came into the store with his own group in tow, during an already high-stress crisis (the potential that Duck was going to turn into a Walker), and adding to the drama of "we just let in a kid who's going to turn into an undead cannibal" with "oh, and a murderer too" wasn't likely to help matters (incidentally, Carley actually makes the same observation when she's not as trusting of Lee).

For the rest of the episode right after that, Larry was semi-conscious. He wasn't able to speak in complete sentences again until the very end of Episode 1.



It's hardly Larry's fault the pharmacy alarm went off: First, we know from Lilly that her group had been trying to break into the pharmacy since they first set foot in the drugstore anyway, before Lee's group even arrived in Macon. Second, nobody objected to the idea of breaking into the pharmacy. Finally, nobody knew about the alarm; not even Lee, and his family owned the place.

By that reasoning, you can lay the blame for Carley/Doug's death squarely at the feet of Lee's group since the confrontation with them was the whole reason Larry needed his medication at the point in the first place.

There's also no reason to assume Larry knew Lee saved his life at the time, the guy doesn't really regain consciousness until after the drugstore was under siege.

The whole reason for the "Duck drama" had to do with the fact he spent time under a hungry walker, came into the store covered with blood and gore, while suspiciously covering part of his arm with his hand (incidentally, the arm he covers is the same one we see under the aforementioned walker's face) and the kid never says a word during the entire exchange. Considering Duck gets Shawn killed, and was the only one seen to keep happily chow down on Mark Meat after Lee tells everyone not to eat it, I wouldn't be surprised if turned out the kid was an undercover Walker :p (joke in bad taste? Maybe, pun intended? Also maybe).

For the vast majority of the time we see Larry in Episode 1, he's either near death and semi-conscious, or there's a "everything's going to hell" crisis. We don't see him in a "relaxed" setting until the very end of Episode 1, which would be the first real chance Lee would have to actually converse with the guy and potentially try to convince him that convicted murderers can be good people too. Hell, by the beginning of Episode 2, Larry's willing to save Lee's life.

And if Larry had not been trying to murder a child he would not have had the confrontation to begin with. My point was that the rest of the group went out of their way for him, and yet instead of helping he puts the whole group at risk in an attempt to murder yet another member of the group. I'm sorry, but you don't get to claim to be protecting the group from a convicted murderer when you try to kill two of them yourself. The sad fact is that the group probably would've survived better if they had just left Larry to die (ditching Lily too if necessary). I would not endorse such an action myself since I wouldn't condone leaving someone to die (I'm not a Larry), but it would have probably worked out better in the long run.

I'm sorry, but unless Larry was mentally undeveloped or something there really isn't any justification for his actions in my mind and I find it hard to feel any sympathy for him despite choosing the option to try and save him every time.

[Bowserboy129]

OK honestly I wanted Larry dead just... not like that. I was thinking if doing something like throwing him to the zombies while no one is around but you two, or simply shooting him away from Lilly. The last thing I was expecting or wanted was to smash his head in with a salt lick infront of Lilly and Clem. It's one thing to find out that someone you know is dead, it's another to watch his brains smashed in right in front of your very eyes. That's why I tried to save Larry, not because I liked him, but because I couldn't kill him in front of Lilly and Clem.

[Sisterofshane]

OK honestly I wanted Larry dead just... not like that. I was thinking if doing something like throwing him to the zombies while no one is around but you two, or simply shooting him away from Lilly. The last thing I was expecting or wanted was to smash his head in with a salt lick infront of Lilly and Clem. It's one thing to find out that someone you know is dead, it's another to watch his brains smashed in right in front of your very eyes. That's why I tried to save Larry, not because I liked him, but because I couldn't kill him in front of Lilly and Clem.

It's horrible, but unavoidable. I mean, considering that my group just ate Mark, and then saw him drag his legless body downstairs to get help, I think that killing Larry in front of them should be a little less disturbing.

I empathize with both Lily and Clem, but I can't afford to entertain emotions and feelings when our safety is directly in jeopardy. I'll do what I have to in order to keep everyone who is willing to stay with me alive, and deal with the fall out later.

[cormoran]

For me it came down to one thing. did i want to see Larry die quick, easy and unconscious, or did i want to see him die slowly, agonizingly and fully aware of the horror that was eating him alive?

No Larry, you aint going out the easy way! *pounds on Larry's chest* Live you bastard! *pounds on Larry's chest* Live so that you can die screaming! *pounds on Larry's chest* Don't you dare cheat me out of my retribution! *SCRUNCH!* ..... Damnit Kenny, i love you mate, but... you just screwed me out of a very satisfying experience....

[Bearcules]

Most convicted murderers are not serial killers, most murders are crimes of passion, something that I'm surprised Larry hasn't done himself considering his temper.

source? What do you mean by crime of passion? Also my understanding is CPR is supposed to be used only when the person's heart stops and only buys time for other procedures. CPR does not revive heart attack victims.

[Bowserboy129]

It's horrible, but unavoidable. I mean, considering that my group just ate Mark, and then saw him drag his legless body downstairs to get help, I think that killing Larry in front of them should be a little less disturbing.

I empathize with both Lily and Clem, but I can't afford to entertain emotions and feelings when our safety is directly in jeopardy. I'll do what I have to in order to keep everyone who is willing to stay with me alive, and deal with the fall out later.

Yes I get where you're coming from, but let's not forget that Lily didn't eat her dad but instead Mark (and from what I saw she could of cares less about him) and Clem's 8 so either way that event will screw her up, eating Mark or not. Not to mention the fact that Mark was still alive when they saw him. Oh and I'd think watching someone crawl towards you asking for help with no legs wouldn't be as bad as watching a guy you belive is still alive get his head smashed in because one guy thinks he may turn into a walker, and I'd be willing to get watching those events happen in that order would be even worse.

Oh and about the whole emotion thing, would you want one of your group to go mad and kill everyone because of a series of events that happened to them? Because I sure as hell wouldn't. Entertaining emotions may not seem like a good idea, but in a zombie infested world you should be more then willing to otherwise you could be on the wrong end of an axe head.

[Sisterofshane]

Yes I get where you're coming from, but let's not forget that Lily didn't eat her dad but instead Mark (and from what I saw she could of cares less about him) and Clem's 8 so either way that event will screw her up, eating Mark or not. Not to mention the fact that Mark was still alive when they saw him. Oh and I'd think watching someone crawl towards you asking for help with no legs wouldn't be as bad as watching a guy you belive is still alive get his head smashed in because one guy thinks he may turn into a walker, and I'd be willing to get watching those events happen in that order would be even worse.

Oh and about the whole emotion thing, would you want one of your group to go mad and kill everyone because of a series of events that happened to them? Because I sure as hell wouldn't. Entertaining emotions may not seem like a good idea, but in a zombie infested world you should be more then willing to otherwise you could be on the wrong end of an axe head.

I'm not heartless - I look after the kids, I console people - I didn't even judge Lily or Larry for her Dad's behavior in the drugstore. Heck, I didn't even kill the St. John brothers (the magnificent bastards that THEY are).

That is why I said "direct" threats to the safety of the group deserve my prompt attention over anyone's emotional needs (including my own). Lily isn't going to care that I tried to help her save her Dad if he turns into a Walker (and I'm sorry, there is good evidence to assume that Larry is indeed not coming back, and the only evidence contrary having the player resort to meta-gaming). I'm going to make the choice to protect Clem, and then hopefully when we are safe again, answer any of her questions and explain what I did to the best of my abilities. Besides, how much more terrifying would it have been to have Larry turn into a Walker while we are trapped in that Meat Locker?

And I understand we want to limit emotional damage as much as we possibly can, but again, I'm going to have an easier time explaining to Clem why I chose to kill Larry than I am explaining to her why those people fed us a member of our own group (regardless of whether or not SHE ate him, which in my playthrough, she didn't).

See my first post on this thread for why I won't lose any sleep over my choice. (EDIT: It's about midway down page four)

[Zeruis]

Even though nobody liked him, I just couldn't agree with Kenny and kill him. He still deserved a chance. Larry did indeed get us out of the meat locker indirectly.

[Sisterofshane]

Even though nobody liked him, I just couldn't agree with Kenny and kill him. He still deserved a chance. Larry did indeed get us out of the meat locker indirectly.

And I don't think of it as choosing to kill him - rather, with the information I have available, I consider that I've decided that he CAN'T be saved. So instead of wasting my time continuing with CPR (which, at the time of the decision, has been going on for over a full minute with no results), I help Kenny by moving Lily away so that Larry can be stopped from coming back as a walker.

[PuhChewyChomp]

Larry would have done the same thing as Kenny if it was anyone but Lilly laying there. Same probably goes for Lilly if it wasn't Larry.

[Sisterofshane]

larry would have done the same thing as kenny if it was anyone but lilly laying there. Same probably goes for lilly if it wasn't larry.

thank you!!!

[Awesoke]

I'm surprised the stealing from the car and killing Larry stats aren't similar. Seems hypocritical to be sympathetic to Larry and then stealing essential supplies from somebody's car.

[Soldier660]

Its right ! Larry can be a little bad with words but he is not bad or a crazy old man ! he was just looking for is daughter ! the true is that :) ! oh and he was alive when kenny killed him ! really fail kenny !

[YamiRaziel]

Sisterofshane you keep making so many excuses. No matter how bad Larry was, he still deserved a chance. Lee fought quite a lot of zombies, he could've handled Larry if he reanimated which you can't be sure would've happened at all. I'm pretty sure he was still alive. Maybe Kenny would know that they could handle a single walker if he actually fought one for a change. If someone had the right to smash Larry's head, this person should've been Lee or Lilly herself. A spineless coward like Kenny doesn't have such options.

[PuhChewyChomp]

Larry would have done the same thing as Kenny if it was anyone but Lilly laying there. Same probably goes for Lilly if it wasn't Larry.

End of argument. And did everyone forget that Larry tried to kill Lee and Duck in episode 1?

[Awesoke]

Sisterofshane you keep making so many excuses. No matter how bad Larry was, he still deserved a chance. Lee fought quite a lot of zombies, he could've handled Larry if he reanimated which you can't be sure would've happened at all. I'm pretty sure he was still alive. Maybe Kenny would know that they could handle a single walker if he actually fought one for a change. If someone had the right to smash Larry's head, this person should've been Lee or Lilly herself. A spineless coward like Kenny doesn't have such options.

You can't say Lee would have "handled" a zombified Larry with certainty. How would you know that? Realistically a 6'4'' 300lb zombie in close quarters would be fatal scenario. Plus Larry was probably dead. He seemingly had a heart attack and was NOT breathing. If you're not breathing, you're pretty much dead.

[Awesoke]

End of argument. And did everyone forget that Larry tried to kill Lee and Duck in episode 1?

So true. Did everyone also forget that it was Kenny who saved Lee in the first episode? Even if you were not on Kenny's side in episode 1, he would have still saved you.

[YamiRaziel]

Awesoke zombies do not jump to their feet the very first second they open their eyes and thus his weight doesn't have anything to do with the problem. He will be killed before he can get up. Kenny could have just stood with the heavy object above his head, waiting to see if Larry was really dead.

[Awesoke]

Awesoke zombies do not jump to their feet the very first second they open their eyes and thus his weight doesn't have anything to do with the problem. He will be killed before he can get up. Kenny could have just stood with the heavy object above his head, waiting to see if Larry was really dead.

In hindsight the choices are obviously easier because you already know what happened. You're not considering the reality of their situation. Larry had a heart attack and everyone was practically panicking. Knowing how quickly someone could change, the situation required an immediate response. No way you could realistically wait for someone to turn before you killed them.

[YamiRaziel]

Well, yeah, the first time I played it I decided to save Larry because I chose to believe we could. Kenny however didn't and that's why I hate him + later letting me die.

[Sisterofshane]

In hindsight the choices are obviously easier because you already know what happened. You're not considering the reality of their situation. Larry had a heart attack and everyone was practically panicking. Knowing how quickly someone could change, the situation required an immediate response. No way you could realistically wait for someone to turn before you killed them.

Not to mention he doesn't need to jump to his feet when you and Lily are kneeling next to him trying to save his life. You can't perform CPR from a "safe distance", and being within grabbing distance puts you at risk.

[Awesoke]

Well, yeah, the first time I played it I decided to save Larry because I chose to believe we could. Kenny however didn't and that's why I hate him + later letting me die.

Well you had every right to make your own choice - the beauty of this game.

My choice was to kill Larry (in the minority lol). I regret how it went down but I believe it was the right choice. I didn't want to take a chance on anyone getting infected.