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chrono01
06/28/2007, 04:56 pm
I got a call from EB this morning informing that my Sam & Max: Season One pre-order was cancelled because they got word from the publishers that it was no longer being made. So, is there only one version now, the one you get directly from this website?

In any case, it must be a blessing in disquise. I never knew about the exclusive pre-orders from this site (the bonus DVD, getting all of the episodes on CD) as well as all of the cool swag. I pre-ordered the Season One Collection + Bonus DVD, as well as the Sam & Max Season One Case file, Soundtrack, and Artbook. Sure, I spent more than I originally planned, but what can I say? Sam & Max are awesome, as are all of you Telltale employees. You really go the extra mile with your products, and show true love and devotion to your fans (don't worry, not in a creepy way :D). Thanks again, and I can't wait until the July release.

EDIT: Thanks to Jake, a Telltale Team Member, the above information has been proved to be false (as you can read below), as the game is still available for pre-order in EB/GS locations (just not online apparently).The retail version is not cancelled, and apologize for the misleading information.

tabacco
06/28/2007, 05:06 pm
I think EB may have lied to you. Other retailers will still have it, as far as I know.

AdamG
06/28/2007, 05:14 pm
I got a call from EB this morning informing that my Sam & Max: Season One pre-order was cancelled because they got word from the publishers that it was no longer being made.

I also got a call from EB Games today. They said the manufacturer will no longer be making Sam & Max Season One and they will not have any more.

Hero1
06/28/2007, 06:29 pm
Well thats disturbing news..the game needs to be in EB stores

Udvarnoky
06/28/2007, 06:31 pm
I'm sure it's just been pulled temporarily, for whatever reason. I wouldn't worry yet.

tabacco
06/28/2007, 06:34 pm
I'd like to reiterate that whatever seems to be going on with EB, other retailers are still taking orders (except Gamestop, which is the same company as EB)

chrono01
06/28/2007, 06:50 pm
I'd like to reiterate that whatever seems to be going on with EB, other retailers are still taking orders (except Gamestop, which is the same company as EB)

Just because they're still taking orders for it, doesn't mean they'll get any copies in. It's too bad. Like Hero1 stated, a retail release would have extended the game's reach, and possibly have created new Sam & Max fans. Oh well, there's still a chance it might eventually get a retail release, but as it stands now, it won't be be for a while.

Of course, I hope this is all just a misunderstanding, but it doesn't appear that way. We'll know for sure in a bit, I suppose. At least Telltale is there for us. :)

Hero1
06/28/2007, 06:58 pm
man hasn't sam & max had enough cancellations :mad: what's the adventure company saying about this?

tabacco
06/28/2007, 07:07 pm
Just because they're still taking orders for it, doesn't mean they'll get any copies in. It's too bad. Like Hero1 stated, a retail release would have extended the game's reach, and possibly have created new Sam & Max fans. Oh well, there's still a chance it might eventually get a retail release, but as it stands now, it won't be be for a while.

The retail version is not cancelled, EB is just up to something funny. Let's not jump to crazy conclusions, okay?

LrdPhoenix
06/28/2007, 07:08 pm
Well thats disturbing news..the game needs to be in EB stores

If it can find any shelf space. With the way EB is going these days they have like one shelf dedicated to PC games, with the dozen+ others going to the consoles.

Jake
06/28/2007, 07:11 pm
Just because they're still taking orders for it, doesn't mean they'll get any copies in. It's too bad. Like Hero1 stated, a retail release would have extended the game's reach, and possibly have created new Sam & Max fans. Oh well, there's still a chance it might eventually get a retail release, but as it stands now, it won't be be for a while.

Of course, I hope this is all just a misunderstanding, but it doesn't appear that way. We'll know for sure in a bit, I suppose. At least Telltale is there for us. :)

The leaps in logic and assumptions here are pretty out of control. As of right now we don't know what's up with these calls from GS/EB, but we do know it doesn't mean that the retail release is canceled.

Until you have some sort of actual fact, you shouldn't make assumptions like that, especially in such an authoritative, knowledgeable tone. Everywhere but the Internet, what you wrote would be considered "making things up." If you're going to try and report something to people, please actually behave like a reporter and check your facts.

For what it's worth, I just phoned the local GameStop and was told "it's coming out August 28th," after the guy looked it up in the store computer.

chrono01
06/28/2007, 07:49 pm
The leaps in logic and assumptions here are pretty out of control. As of right now we don't know what's up with these calls from GS/EB, but we do know it doesn't mean that the retail release is canceled.

Until you have some sort of actual fact, you shouldn't make assumptions like that, especially in such an authoritative, knowledgeable tone. Everywhere but the Internet, what you wrote would be considered "making things up." If you're going to try and report something to people, please actually behave like a reporter and check your facts.

For what it's worth, I just phoned the local GameStop and was told "it's coming out August 28th," after the guy looked it up in the store computer.

I apologize. I didn't mean to make anything seem official in any sort. I should have chosen to voice my words a little clearer, and not so authoritative. Again, I didn't mean any discontent, and you have my sincerest apology. Believe me, it was not my intention to anger the board or provide any false information. I should have done more research before I created a thread, as you've already stated, but it's something I can't change now. :(

Also, it's good to hear that EB/GS locations still have a listing for it. Maybe it's some strange deal with their website, and they had to pull it down for some reason (this wasn't the first time my pre-order was pulled because it "wasn't available" and then re-listed later on). But in any case, it gives me more hope for others to discover this wonderful franchise and give it the respect it deserves.

EDIT: I've edited the thread tag as well as my original post to rectify the mistake I made (or should I blame the EB emplyee who called me?). In any case, either my itchy trigger finger or lack of research are to blame, so I apologize for both.

DrakeFox
06/28/2007, 08:59 pm
Not sure how it goes in the US, but here in Denmark EB is the last place I'd go for any reliable information on games which aren't big hyped blockbusters.

Unless it's a big budget and hyped game it seems to pass harmlessly under their radar. Like the case of Trackmania Sunrise. Before it got released I wandered into the EB we had around and asked if they could provide a release date, and maybe allow me to pre-order. What I got was blank stares. And a lookup on the computer later, getting told that there weren't any game by that name in production. I eventually ordered it online.

Most everywhere else had the game within one week after it's release. For EB they got one copy on their shelves 4 months after release.

As I said. I don't know how the US version works, but here in Denmark it's the last place I'd go for games. They're typically a bit more expensive, don't provide much in the way of extra service, and their selection is limited.

Could be they just decided that Sam & Max isn't high profile enough and decided they weren't going to have anything to do with it. Could also be that the people calling around to tell them it was cancelled thought it was the older project, and not Season 1.

Jake
06/28/2007, 10:49 pm
I apologize. I didn't mean to make anything seem official in any sort. I should have chosen to voice my words a little clearer, and not so authoritative. Again, I didn't mean any discontent, and you have my sincerest apology. Believe me, it was not my intention to anger the board or provide any false information. I should have done more research before I created a thread, as you've already stated, but it's something I can't change now. :(


Hey sorry if I came on a little strong - I mean, there is definitely some weirdness afoot if retail stores are calling people! That said, people were definitely getting out their Jump to Conclusions mats and landing on the worst case scenario, and then further extrapolating from there. It's too bad that people are getting mystery phone calls from retail stores, but fear not!

Kaldire
06/29/2007, 01:24 am
sadly I got this call too... odd really. I had the manager contact corp and im going in to talk to him tomorrow about it. As far as he sees in the computer its NOT being sold on the site ebgames.com or in the stores as a preorder anymore!

AHHHH there goes my poster and game. Where else can one order this and what is really going on?

http://www.ebgames.com/search.asp?Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&Ntt=sam+and+max&N=0&find.x=0&find.y=0&find=Search

Udvarnoky
06/29/2007, 07:31 am
The game is still listed at Amazon and every other online retailer. Though EB/Gamestop had that strategy guide offer, so depending on how much you care about that you may want to wait until they put it back up.

Frogacuda
06/29/2007, 08:55 am
This does beg the question: Why are you, the educated consumer, aware of telltale's site, buying the retail version? It looks like Tellale's disc is loaded with bonus goodies and looks a lot nicer.

DrakeFox
06/29/2007, 09:11 am
Because the retail disc will contain completely different sets of goodies maybe?

Frogacuda
06/29/2007, 09:22 am
Doubtful, since it's CD-ROM based so they'll need to budget their space much tighter.

Badwolf
06/29/2007, 09:24 am
Actually, it does have a few different things. From what I gather, there's an exclusive "Making Of..." documentary and a poster among other things in the retail version.

tabacco
06/29/2007, 09:26 am
The retail release doesn't have the commentaries or blooper reel, but they do have the documentary and poster.

Frogacuda
06/29/2007, 09:27 am
I thought the poster is a preorder goodie with EB/Gamestop. And it looks like they screwed that up...

Kaldire
06/29/2007, 09:46 am
You must be nuts.. if you have read telltales staff's own response to this "heck you may want to get both copies just to get both sets of goodies"

In this case you get different extras in both.. and that my friend is why..

Emily
06/29/2007, 10:02 am
The poster will come with the retail version no matter where you buy it. Take a look at TAC's product page (http://www.adventurecompanygames.com/tac/sam_and_max/index.html) for the full list of what will come on the retail version.

The bonus features on TAC's come on a separate CD. There's one CD for the games, and a second CD for the bonuses.

Harald B
06/29/2007, 10:33 am
TAC's product page (http://www.adventurecompanygames.com/tac/sam_and_max/index.html)I must say, it's a bit disingenous for them to list access to the online web comic and the comic generator under the "Exclusive Bonuses". Still, that product page is amazingly stylish (even if it probably would've looked better without that lincoln).

AdamG
06/29/2007, 10:34 am
Also, EB Games had an offer for a free strategy guide if you pre ordered on their site. Which I did, and also planned on buying Telltale's own version here as well. I suppose now I will just buy... Er, get... The version from here, and get some extra Sam & Max merchandise while I'm at it.

As for EB, I wouldn't be surprised if they were simply overwhelmed by the preorders and wanted to trim some off so they didn't have to give out so many free strategy guides. Bastards...

Udvarnoky
06/29/2007, 11:07 am
Yeah, that must be it.

Maratanos
06/29/2007, 12:08 pm
The retail release doesn't have the commentaries or blooper reel, but they do have the documentary and poster.

Is this the same or different documentary than the one on GameTap TV?

LuigiHann
06/29/2007, 12:37 pm
Is this the same or different documentary than the one on GameTap TV?

Different. The retail version guys shot their own documentary.

tabacco
06/29/2007, 12:57 pm
Yeah, what he said.

chrono01
06/29/2007, 01:11 pm
Hey sorry if I came on a little strong - I mean, there is definitely some weirdness afoot if retail stores are calling people! That said, people were definitely getting out their Jump to Conclusions mats and landing on the worst case scenario, and then further extrapolating from there. It's too bad that people are getting mystery phone calls from retail stores, but fear not!

It's no problem. It was completely my fault, so you have nothing to apologize for.

Also, I didn't expect this thread to get so huge. It seems more people are getting calls than I thought. Yeah, I wouldn't put it past EB to cancel the excess orders just because they didn't want to give out so many Solution Guides. That was the reason I ordered it from them, but I'm actually glad it got cancelled. I'm getting more swag ordering from the official site (especially the artbook and soundtrack), so it worked out for the best, regardless of the reason. :D

AdamG
06/29/2007, 10:19 pm
I was looking forward to seeing the retail version interview of the company, but since EB Games apparently screwed me behind my back, I'll just go without and wait for it on Youtube... :(

Sir Lemming
06/30/2007, 08:09 am
Video game store clerks seem to like making things up. I remember once a store clerk assured my brother that Super Street Fighter II for PC "didn't exist". We found it on the store shelf seconds later.

Frogacuda
07/03/2007, 12:31 am
Video game store clerks seem to like making things up. I remember once a store clerk assured my brother that Super Street Fighter II for PC "didn't exist". We found it on the store shelf seconds later.
In fairness, you would not believe the frequency with which customers ask those people for games that actually don't exist. I recall hearing the plight of a retail employee faced with a woman requesting Donkey Dong 64. She would not accept Donkey Kong 64 in its stead, sure that she had the name correct.

Kaldire
07/05/2007, 03:18 pm
Any word here? I went to 3 gamestops all say they dont even have it in their computer. Doubt they are all lying!

Emily
07/05/2007, 04:36 pm
We don't really know what the story is with EB and Gamestop, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that the game has not been canceled.

Kaldire
07/05/2007, 04:37 pm
well yea I know its not canceled but with eb... seems to be. Thats where im going confused lol. Ill stop bothering ya thanks M :P

Emily
07/05/2007, 04:39 pm
If a tree falls in the forest game isn't in the computer at EB, does it still exist? :D

(Based on my own past experience, yes... even though there were EB clerks who swore up and down to me that it didn't. ;))

ShaggE
07/05/2007, 04:53 pm
Video game store clerks seem to like making things up. I remember once a store clerk assured my brother that Super Street Fighter II for PC "didn't exist". We found it on the store shelf seconds later.

Can't blame them for not knowing, that was a very obscure port. Out of curiosity, do they still pack the movie soundtrack with the game? They did when I bought it 11 years ago, but I never saw a "normal" release of it.

Sir Lemming
07/05/2007, 06:52 pm
Can't blame them for not knowing, that was a very obscure port.
No, but you can blame them for claiming it doesn't exist instead of looking it up -- a simple inventory search would have revealed its presence in the store. They have it in stock, so shouldn't they be trying to help people buy it? Isn't that their job?

Emily
07/05/2007, 06:58 pm
I once went to EB trying to buy the PC port of Shadow of Destiny. The clerk swore up and down that there was no such port, and when I finally got him to look it up he was like "Oh, it says we have it" and joined me at the shelf to try to look for it, but it was nowhere to be found. So then he swore up and down that it must be a mistake in the computer. I finally (after much convincing) got him to look for it in the back -- and lo and behold, there it was. (Multiple copies, in fact.)

It seems (based on what we heard from a customer today) that these are automated phone calls? In that case, it makes sense that they're saying it's been cancelled. It's probably a generic recording. I wish they'd say something else (something true, maybe :p) but it's a little more understandable.

Kaldire
07/05/2007, 07:04 pm
all the stores I went to were managers and all looked not only online but at HQ and in the main database.. right in front of me! soo yeaa.. no sam & max in sight. I know at one time it was on their main site and such now poof. Soo yeaa idk where Im getting my copy. LOL

Mel
07/05/2007, 07:09 pm
Online, Amazon.com has it in their list.

You can check Walmart (they gets TAC titles all the time), Target, CompUSA, BestBuy, Frys e.g. Those are all places that I have seen and bought adventure games. I'll bet one or more will have it. :)

ShaggE
07/05/2007, 07:27 pm
No, but you can blame them for claiming it doesn't exist instead of looking it up -- a simple inventory search would have revealed its presence in the store. They have it in stock, so shouldn't they be trying to help people buy it? Isn't that their job?

Of course. I'm not defending them, but I can understand why he might think it's nonexistent in general. PC Fighters are a very very rare animal.

Emily
07/05/2007, 08:14 pm
When the release gets closer we'll post a list of stores where the game can be found. Maybe we'll make a game out of it and encourage people to send in pictures of Sam & Max sightings on store shelves. :D

Hero1
07/05/2007, 08:21 pm
Still this ain't a good thing..I bet a lot of people now think Sam & Max isn't coming out in stores.. I would hope the adventure company would be distibuting to EBgames.. I don't know what its like in the US but in Australia ebgames is basically the only store for games..and where most people buy them..

AdamG
07/05/2007, 08:42 pm
I don't know if the calls from EB are automated or not, at least not the one I got. I wasn't around so they left a message on the answering machine. It didn't -sound- like a recorded message, but uh, it was on the answering machine so I suppose it was a recording afterall. :p

DrakeFox
07/05/2007, 09:04 pm
Well Hero1, you can think of it this way. They won't be sitting around waiting for it, and they will be that much happier when they do stumble across the retail release somewhere else. Maybe they'll even get a clue that EB doesn't nescesarily have one?

Hero1
07/06/2007, 01:47 am
yeah.. i'm hoping this release sends a message to lucasarts about "market place realities"

AdamG
07/06/2007, 03:12 am
I'm pretty sure LucasDorks already got the message. :)

FlushingFlash
07/08/2007, 07:31 am
I went to my local GameStop last weekend to reserve the retail version. I informed the clerk about peoples' concerns of receiving phone calls that the retail version was cancelled. He looked it up in the computer and said it was right there in front of him for reserve. I reserved it and then just this Friday, received that infamous phone call.

Mine was an automated recording, I know because it sounds just like all of the other phone calls I get from GameStop when I reserve something and receive the call to remind me that it's arriving, etc. It went something like "Hello, this is GameStop to remind you of a reserve you have for the game "Sam and Max" for the PC. The retail version has been cancelled, if you would like to get a refund or put your deposit for another game, please go to your nearest GameStop retailer. Thank you for shopping at GameStop. Goodbye." That wasn't it exactly, but it is pretty close to exactly what was said.

I hope there is some concrete info on what actually is happening, I also wanted to take advantage of the strategy guide pre-order bonus that was to come with the retail release.

tabacco
07/08/2007, 07:33 am
I don't think we can be more concrete than saying that the retail version isn't cancelled :(

Kaldire
07/08/2007, 09:39 am
AGAIN.. I cant get this through to you guys who say you cant get through to us.. we are not saying its TOTALLY CANCELED... just EB/GAMESTOP is canceled it with them(being eb/gamestop) I dont trust amazon and dont know of any other stores that take preorders as such so :P Ill just pray I see em on a shelf somewhere when they come out. Or wait for the list M was talking about. Emily do you dislike being called M? If so I shall stop.

Emily
07/08/2007, 11:12 am
Em is fine. M always seems odd to me, but others have done that too, and I guess it sounds exactly the same. Whatever. :D

FlushingFlash, thanks for the details about your phone call. Dreamcatcher is going to be getting in touch with EB/Gamestop to ask them to change their messaging, so knowing what they're actually saying is a big help!

ReverendTed
07/08/2007, 05:39 pm
FlushingFlash, thanks for the details about your phone call. Dreamcatcher is going to be getting in touch with EB/Gamestop to ask them to change their messaging, so knowing what they're actually saying is a big help!Thanks! I think this is what people have been actually asking for.
We know it hasn't actually been canceled, but we'd like to know what's going on with GameStop, and I would expect TellTale to be even more interested than we are. There's no telling how many people have received the message who don't frequent these boards.

tabacco
07/08/2007, 05:55 pm
Why do you assume we're not interested? We're doing our very best to find out what's going on.

ReverendTed
07/08/2007, 06:01 pm
Whoa - I should have been more specific. I didn't mean to come across as hostile at all.
All I meant was that if you read back over this thread (and I just did to make sure I hadn't missed anything), the only respose to people's comments about these messages is "It's not canceled," with nothing along the lines of "we're looking into it" or "we're kind of concerned about why this is happening." It was just nice that Emily let us know that Telltale is in contact with someone about the underlying issue. That's all I meant.

Jake
07/08/2007, 07:36 pm
It was just nice that Emily let us know that Telltale is in contact with someone about the underlying issue. That's all I meant.

Aye :) We're working on it.

Kaldire
07/08/2007, 09:00 pm
yea im waaay sure they are working on it gamestop is a HUGE distro in NA..

Soo yeaa :P

AdamG
07/08/2007, 10:32 pm
EB/Gamestop is being a real pain in the ass! They just didn't want to have to give out tons of free strategy guides anymore. I bet they thought it wouldn't sell well, so they made that special offer. But then the preorders were selling way better then they expected, so they cancled some of the orders. Naturally they couldn't tell us, "The preorders were selling too well and we were losing money, so we cancled your order because it was too good of a deal.", so they said, "The publisher isn't making it anymore, so your order was canceled.".

I hope Telltale kicks their butt for doing that! :mad:

What's up with EB and Gamestop being owned by the same company anyway? Couldn't they make competition with themselves and drive up sales artificially through less then honest means? :/

tabacco
07/08/2007, 10:55 pm
Let's not go inventing theories and stating them as fact, because people tend to pick up on them and spread them even though there's no truth to it. This is another one of those cases where a story carries more weight than it should on the Internet, I'm afraid. :(

Linque
07/09/2007, 12:23 am
I once went to EB trying to buy the PC port of Shadow of Destiny. The clerk swore up and down that there was no such port, and when I finally got him to look it up he was like "Oh, it says we have it" and joined me at the shelf to try to look for it, but it was nowhere to be found. So then he swore up and down that it must be a mistake in the computer. I finally (after much convincing) got him to look for it in the back -- and lo and behold, there it was. (Multiple copies, in fact.)


A bit off topic perhaps, but I just wanted to share:
You know what's strange? I got the same kind of treatment on the EB Store here in Finland. The customer service was nothing like I've ever experienced before - the clerk essentially treated me like an idiot when I said that Puzzle Quest for the Nintendo DS was indeed and truly released in Finland. Since it wasn't on their computer, I was wrong.

I went to the store across the street and bought the game there.

I thought EB would change it's policies according to the country, but I guess I was wrong.

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Anyways, the thing I meant to say is that Tabacco's profile text, "with Club Sauce" might confuse people as to not understand that you are indeed a Telltale Team member. I noticed that at least chrono01 didn't realize you were part of Telltale. I sunno - some kind of a clear not might be in order.
Just trying to be helpful. :)

tobar
07/09/2007, 01:29 am
I prefer mine with frim-fram sauce, ausen fay and a little chafafa on the side. :p

AdamG
07/09/2007, 04:24 am
I never said my theory was a fact, where did you get that from? I can say whatever I want about anything I want, but I suppose Telltale does own this message board, so you can get upset with me if you want. But I'll just go somewhere else and say my mind there, so it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

Emily
07/09/2007, 06:49 am
The point is -- and this is very likely related to what has been perceived as our "disinterest" in the subject -- if you say something remotely controversial or interesting on a message board, especially if you're a company employee, it has a weird tendency to end up all over the internet in the form of news.

There was this one time I wrote a blog about the Wii...

And this other time Jake made an off-hand comment about trumpets and cherubs...

It doesn't matter if the person who makes the comment intends it as fact or not. The problem is when it suddenly starts being spread all over the internet as if it were -- which "Sam & Max retail product cancelled!!!1!" has the very good potential to be. So for the time being, we just have to keep reiterating what we KNOW, which is that it's not cancelled.

AdamG
07/09/2007, 07:00 am
Well, yeah, we all know that now. Do you mean we should stop talking about EB/Gamestop?

Kaldire
07/09/2007, 07:15 am
Nah hell no .. least I wouldnt. If fans rush to the stores and all of a sudden HQ gets 3000 requests in a week for a game they used to have in the pc. I Totally understand where Em is coming from, been around tons of devs boards and many posts are taken out of context or as fact based when its not :(
One thing is FOR SURE ... Dreamcather did NOT cancel :P .. gamestop is just a lil late getting home from school on that short bus... (steve looks at watch)... now where is that bus :P

I think we now could prolly change the topic to read... Gamestop/EB doesnt carry sam & max!? Vs canceled :P might throw newbies off XD

tabacco
07/09/2007, 08:09 am
I never said my theory was a fact, where did you get that from? I can say whatever I want about anything I want, but I suppose Telltale does own this message board, so you can get upset with me if you want. But I'll just go somewhere else and say my mind there, so it doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

I'm sorry if you misunderstood my post as angry. The problem, as you can see now, is that when you post things on the Internet, it's not always obvious what tone was intended by the writer. I didn't mean what I said in an angry way, but you read it as such. Very similarly, when you post things like this, it sounds as if you heard this from Gamestop or were told it by us, and people are likely to take it as fact and run with it:

They just didn't want to have to give out tons of free strategy guides anymore. I bet they thought it wouldn't sell well, so they made that special offer. But then the preorders were selling way better then they expected, so they cancled some of the orders. Naturally they couldn't tell us, "The preorders were selling too well and we were losing money, so we cancled your order because it was too good of a deal.", so they said, "The publisher isn't making it anymore, so your order was canceled.".

I know you don't mean any harm, but if people read things like this and think it's true, and then spread it, it causes problems for us all. No good comes of having misinformation floating around the Internet... It's bad for us, and it's bad for the fans.

ReverendTed
07/09/2007, 02:55 pm
The point is -- and this is very likely related to what has been perceived as our "disinterest" in the subject -- if you say something remotely controversial or interesting on a message board, especially if you're a company employee, it has a weird tendency to end up all over the internet in the form of news.Which is why so few companies these days even bother with the risk of having direct employee-customer contact on forums - and I certainly do appreciate Telltale's involvement in that regard. I know sometimes it's hard to balance "what you want to say" with "what you're allowed to say" (in terms of both the positive and negative). It doesn't hurt that you've apparently got a good crew of articulate individuals with demonstrably temperate dispositions working PR.

tabacco
07/09/2007, 03:25 pm
The saddest thing I've done all year was go to a "how to interact with your community" thing at GDC. In hindsight, I should have slept in instead (I got up at 5 to get there in time).

Mel
07/09/2007, 06:21 pm
The saddest thing I've done all year was go to a "how to interact with your community" thing at GDC. In hindsight, I should have slept in instead (I got up at 5 to get there in time).

Is that where they recommended the club sauce?

tabacco
07/09/2007, 06:33 pm
Club sauce is always recommended.

Hero1
07/09/2007, 08:44 pm
Club sauce is always recommended.

:D:D:D:D

Kaldire
07/19/2007, 09:36 pm
Any updates for gamestop usa? still seeming odd. Though now ive already preordered elsewhere :P

Mel
07/19/2007, 10:11 pm
The latest blog entry (http://www.telltalegames.com/community/blogs/id-232) doesn't have it listed.

Kaldire
07/20/2007, 01:25 am
yep thats why I reposted, assuming they now know the answer one way or another. Just kinda wondering why atm :P

Ooze33
07/20/2007, 06:23 am
It's still not appearing on the EB Games site either.

The retail version is rated T? I didn't think it was that bad....

Emily
07/20/2007, 07:00 am
All we really know is that EB (US) and Gamestop are currently not on the list of stores carrying it. If that changes, we'll update the list. :)

The retail version is rated T? I didn't think it was that bad....

There's some sexual innuendo, alcohol references (i.e. Bosco's truth serum), cigarettes shown in the casino, etc. Apparently that's enough for a Teen rating.

Chuck
07/20/2007, 11:56 am
I know next to nothing about the ESRB, but I was under the impression that just giving a playable character a gun knocked you out of the E rating.

I remember one of the producers at EA talking about what gave The Sims a T rating instead of E, and she said that the ESRB's biggest objection was that you could make a male sim hit a female sim. At least at the time of the original; I don't know what they had to do with all the new "woohoo" stuff in Sims 2.

Ooze33
07/26/2007, 05:33 am
Back to the ESRB thing:
What is it rated T exactly for? I still think it isn't that bad.

ReverendTed
07/26/2007, 05:48 am
I believe Emily already gave us what information she could.
There's some sexual innuendo, alcohol references (i.e. Bosco's truth serum), cigarettes shown in the casino, etc. Apparently that's enough for a Teen rating.

LuigiHann
07/26/2007, 09:36 am
I think the T rating fits. In this case, I don't think of it so much as "what's bad enough that warrants a T" as "who is the game's intended audience?"

Badwolf
07/26/2007, 03:08 pm
And there is a bit of swearing (eg, Bosco in episode 2, "Commie B*****ds" in episode 4").

marsan
07/26/2007, 04:19 pm
PEGI gave it the rating 7+(age 7 and up) :)