You'll hate Lilly after reading this.

[jangjangchang]

When you were away from the motor inn she would keep a second hand of food and feed her dad instead of Clementine and lie to you and said she was fed.

[CapnJay]

Proof or it didnt happen

[jangjangchang]

Proof or it didnt happen

Tell Mark larry is a racist and tell him about Lilly when he asks about food. Later at the motor inn talk to him again about it.

Also talk to Katjaa.

[Sergiy]

Well, you would be biased and give food to Clem, at least most of us would (except the haters obviously). I find taking priority in the ones closest to you to be rather natural.

[Gman5852]

So putting family over strangers is a bad thing now?

[zenstrata]

It is more important to keep the adults going and capable. Otherwise there will be no one able to gather more food or supplies and everyone will die. Lily made the right choice to feed the adults. As for lying, I knew the kids were not receiving as much food as the adults. This is to be expected.

[Zaxs]

So putting family over strangers is a bad thing now?

They have been together for about 3 months as of the start of episode 2. No one there is a stranger anymore. Anyway doing that, in my book, is neither good nor bad but more of a dick move.

[Gman5852]

They have been together for about 3 months as of the start of episode 2. No one there is a stranger anymore. Anyway doing that, in my book, is neither good nor bad but more of a dick move.

Ah.

So putting family over guys you've known for only 3 months is a bad thing now?

[NessaT]

Ah.

So putting family over guys you've known for only 3 months is a bad thing now?

No it's not bad - but I get the point about her sneaking away extra food for her dad while she was putting others on strict control - even the kids.

Zaxs was correct in saying it wasn't a good or bad move - it just shows that she too, like Kenny, place family first at the detriment of others.

So if Larry is dead, I wonder who Lilly will be loyal to? She obviously will never follow Kenny, so perhaps she might be more willing to side Lee in times of crisis.

[CapnJay]

she'll side with lee if lee watched her back and someone else or noone if lee sided with kenny

[jojimbo]

whe i handed out the food, i instinctively went to ,kenny, carly, and lilly
only lilly took the food, the other wanted me to give it to the kids, the game pushed me into giving the last bit to mark, but ill try larry next time round.

agreed the adults should stay strong

[coryay113]

If you knew anything about the comics you would hate lilly as it is.

[aDeadManWonderland]

If you knew anything about the comics you would hate lilly as it is.

Why, because she killed Lori and Judith? Lori wasted no time to hop in bed with Shane, and Judith was probably Shanes baby. Kinda sucks the kid had to die though. And besides, I'm pretty sure that whole plotline happens after the events of the game.

[Jazzy]

Lily is supposed to be the leader. I can understand keeping the adults fed, but this implies that she's been giving more to her father at the expense of the others which means that she hasn't been doing her job as leader and can now no longer be trusted with the role, especially considering her cries of how hard the job is when she's abusing the position. Just my thoughts on the matter, YMMV.

[big-augen]

Why, because she killed Lori and Judith? Lori wasted no time to hop in bed with Shane, and Judith was probably Shanes baby. Kinda sucks the kid had to die though. And besides, I'm pretty sure that whole plotline happens after the events of the game.

Episode 2 of the game happens before Lily kills Lori and Judith. Lily has to leave the (game) group to join the (comic) Governor @Woodbury.

And Rick and the others should be still at the camp, before Carl shoots Shane. They leave in winter.

[NeLo]

If you look away from any of the comic books. It may be so that you "SHOULD" hate Lilly, but as for my play through she saved me twice from getting killed. Kenny did nothing. And Carley tried as well.

[Gman5852]

If you away from any of the comic books. It may be so that you "SHOULD" hate Lilly, but as for my play through she saved me twice from getting killed. Kenny did nothing. And Carley tried as well.

She saved you twice?

I've had her save me during the first farmer fight, but when did she save you the second time?

[NeLo]

She saved you twice?

I've had her save me during the first farmer fight, but when did she save you the second time?

In the barn she saved me with a sickle. And a few scenes later she shot the other brother while he was holding my head against the fence.

[dee23]

When you were away from the motor inn she would keep a second hand of food and feed her dad instead of Clementine and lie to you and said she was fed.
Doesn't Lilly get enough hate already without inciting more anger towards the character with utter bollocks. I mean, some of these guys actually think your being serious. Lilly is misunderstood and she was misunderstood before people even played the game. The wiki page for Lilly describes her well, as some one that things more about the general well being of the group and not just her father. "Despite having to prioritize her father, between Kenny and herself, she is more interested in overall group's welfare, and thus prioritizes everyone equally whereas Kenny seems to prioritize his family beforehand rather than anyone else".

To be honest i'm glad it has been confirmed that the Lilly in the game isn't the same one that killed Lori. A lot of the hate that Video Game Lilly got was because she was associated with the Grimes murders so people went into the game with prejudice .Telltale portrayed her almost like a pantomime villain to be booed and disliked by the players i.e making her appear cold and rude.

Comic book Lilly only killed 3 people in her life time. 2 of which were practically the result of mistaken identity and misunderstanding and the other was the person who put her up to killing the first 2. She didn't know Lori was carrying a baby and she was fooled into believing Lori and the rest of Rick's group were a danger to her community and her life. She's seen as a villain/antagonist because of the negative impact she had on the life of the protagonist and is not the bitch/monster Telltale made her out to be. Thankfully Kirkman cleared that shit up, giving her a more fitting back story.

[dee23]

Proof or it didnt happen
It didn't happen. Lilly was caring towards Clementine. Clementine even made reference to this on the train.

[dee23]

It is more important to keep the adults going and capable. Otherwise there will be no one able to gather more food or supplies and everyone will die. Lily made the right choice to feed the adults. As for lying, I knew the kids were not receiving as much food as the adults. This is to be expected.
When was it ever said in the game that Lilly lied about feeding Clementine? I think the guy in the opening post is having you on.

[dee23]

They have been together for about 3 months as of the start of episode 2. No one there is a stranger anymore. Anyway doing that, in my book, is neither good nor bad but more of a dick move.
Actually Lilly was fair when she did her rations. This is evident if you make Lee choose to give rations to his closest friends she points out what he is doing is wrong, which shows her views on how rationing should be done. I make sure I always give her something to eat, feed the kids, offer Carly and give the last piece to Mark to show that i'm not choosing favourites.

[dee23]

If you knew anything about the comics you would hate lilly as it is.
If you knew anything about the comics you would know that Lilly only killed Lori because she was tricked into believing Rick's people were dangerous and were a threat to Woodbury. If she was truly evil or wicked she would have killed more than 3 people since the out break. Lori was killed on the governor's orders and Judith was an accident. The 3rd person was the governor who she killed in anger for what he made her do. Is Lilly really an evil monster or is she misunderstood? The facts point to the latter.

[double_u]

Actually Lilly was fair when she did her rations. This is evident if you make Lee choose to give rations to his closest friends she points out what he is doing is wrong, which shows her views on how rationing should be done. I make sure I always give her something to eat, feed the kids, offer Carly and give the last piece to Mark to show that i'm not choosing favourites.

Actually, she gets pissed off as soon as you give Kenny something to eat even if you give her something too. It shows her being more irrational than rational. I gave food to Kenny because he went out hunting and we can probably assume he participated in other supply runs. He was also working on the RV which was basically a lifeboat for the group. All this stuff required him to be fed so he can work. Friendship had nothing to do with it. If Lilly can't see pass that, she is petty and doesn't understand fairness and is too caught up in "Lilly and Larry vs the whole world."

[dee23]

Lily is supposed to be the leader. I can understand keeping the adults fed, but this implies that she's been giving more to her father at the expense of the others which means that she hasn't been doing her job as leader and can now no longer be trusted with the role, especially considering her cries of how hard the job is when she's abusing the position. Just my thoughts on the matter, YMMV.
I've played the game countless times and i've never heard anyone say that Lilly was lying about feeding Clementine and sneaking food to Larry. Everything suggests that she was a fair leader, who cared for the group. Clementine even mentions her giving her hair clips to help manage her hair before bed time when talking to Lee on the train.

[dee23]

Actually, she gets pissed off as soon as you give Kenny something to eat even if you give her something too. It shows her being more irrational than rational. I gave food to Kenny because he went out hunting and we can probably assume he participated in other supply runs. He was also working on the RV which was basically a lifeboat for the group. All this stuff required him to be fed so he can work. Friendship had nothing to do with it. If Lilly can't see pass that, she is petty and doesn't understand fairness and is too caught up in "Lilly and Larry vs the whole world."
Yeah but if you fed Kenny and his son, who you have to feed before he accepts your offer you have already fed 2 thirds of his family so she would see you as showing favouritism, presumably you fed Clementine aswell, so that is 3 of the people that are closest to you. When I rationed I fed only one of his family members, his son, fed Clem, offered Carly then gave the food she rejected to Lilly and gave a piece to Mark, leaving Ben,Larry and Kat who was working on Travis. When I fed Lilly she was appreciative.

[dee23]

Personally I think it was a bad decision to put Lilly in the game. In a game about choice, group dynamics and affiliation Lilly didn’t have a fucking chance. The majority would side against her just because they know that she later goes on to Woodbury and joins the governor in the prison assault against Rick’s people. What with Rick being one of the story’s favourites what chance did Lilly have of being liked? Fans of the comic and show were happy to see Hershel and Glen because they are recognised as being good.

[thestalkinghead]

Personally I think it was a bad decision to put Lilly in the game. In a game about choice, group dynamics and affiliation Lilly didn’t have a fucking chance. The majority would side against her just because they know that she later goes on to Woodbury and joins the governor in the prison assault against Rick’s people. What with Rick being one of the story’s favourites what chance did Lilly have of being liked? Fans of the comic and show were happy to see Hershel and Glen because they are recognised as being good.

i only found out Lilly was in the comics after i had completed the first two episodes and i already didn't like her, i thought Carley had more balls than Lilly and i didn't like how she selfishly wanted everybody but her group to be left to die rather than saving their life and the way she handled the food so secretly/badly and that we never saw her do any work showed she wasn't a good leader.

after i found out she was in the comic i thought the only reason anybody liked her was because they believed she was immortal because she was in the comics and therefore couldn't die (which is why it was a bad idea for her to be Lilly from the comics and why it was a good idea that they decided she wasn't Lilly from the comic) i did know heshel and glen were in the comic/show and i didn't care about them much because i knew the game was based in the comic world and they couldn't die

[Web Head]

SPOILERS FOR THE SHOW
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Robert loves to trick us on TWD right? TWD can kill characters unexpectedly anytime right? Judith is Shane's daughter, if she isn't, the show wouldn't be fun. It's so obvious right?

[Gman5852]

SPOILERS FOR THE SHOW
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Robert loves to trick us on TWD right? TWD can kill characters unexpectedly anytime right? Judith is Shane's daughter, if she isn't, the show wouldn't be fun. It's so obvious right?

What do you mean? If you mean "I think he is going to kill off Judith", *these are spoilers to the books, not the show.*then he's already done that in the comics

[aaron1290]

After i read this thread i kinda like lilly MORE than i have before... now i know she shows compassion and she isnt a robot.

[Shrewsbury Survivor]

Shes been "holding back extra rations" for Larry, a man who can afford to fast. If you dont feed the kids... Your a crawfordite. Lilly and Kenny both aholes. Lee lead the group really while they squabled. Who saved Larry and Carley... Lee! Not Lily or Kenny. Who starts the train? Who decides the teachers fate? Who speaks on the groups behalf... LEE. They are kids argueing over a captains armband for a soccer team.

[Yertos]

It didn't happen. Lilly was caring towards Clementine. Clementine even made reference to this on the train.

Plus pretty much the only time you see her smile is when she watches Clem play at the start of EP2, and during the end video clip she goes up to Clem to talk to her while she's drawing. Katijaa is always with Clem, and Clem and Ben hang out. Clem mentions she likes Doug cause he's funny and know lots of stuff. I don't recall her ever saying anything nice about Carley or Kenny though.

[ZacTB]

Plus pretty much the only time you see her smile is when she watches Clem play at the start of EP2, and during the end video clip she goes up to Clem to talk to her while she's drawing. Katijaa is always with Clem, and Clem and Ben hang out. Clem mentions she likes Doug cause he's funny and know lots of stuff. I don't recall her ever saying anything nice about Carley or Kenny though.

She does if Carley saves her in Episode 1 when she gets attacked by the zombie in the Pharmacy, but that's probably not the same.

[CarScar]

Plus pretty much the only time you see her smile is when she watches Clem play at the start of EP2, and during the end video clip she goes up to Clem to talk to her while she's drawing. Katijaa is always with Clem, and Clem and Ben hang out. Clem mentions she likes Doug cause he's funny and know lots of stuff. I don't recall her ever saying anything nice about Carley or Kenny though.
I thought that too at first, but she was actually smiling at Larry. You can see the camera tilting towards Larry and I think he even turns around to look at Lilly, before she smiles.

[double_u]

I thought that too at first, but she was actually smiling at Larry. You can see the camera tilting towards Larry and I think he even turns around to look at Lilly, before she smiles.

Yup. My first time playing I thought Lilly smiled at Clem, but in my later playthroughs she was clearly smiling when Larry turns around to look up at her.

[Mornai]

Shes been "holding back extra rations" for Larry, a man who can afford to fast.

Agreed. "Keeping the adults fed" goes down the drain when said adult is incapable of doing most of the major things that keep the group alive. Larry's heart condition pretty much guaranteed he would never be among those who go outside to search for supplies and hunt for food, therefore keeping extra rations for him was an absolute waste and complete disloyalty and nepotism by Lilly.

I do not regret leaving her on the side of the road, and never will.

[Rock114]

If she was, in fact, sneaking extra food to Larry (which I have no reason to doubt) then she has no right to call anyone else out on favortism toward their family/friends. She really only seems to care about herself and Larry, which kinda sucks because if she'd pulled her head out of her ass long enough to realize what a selfsih little girl she had been, I wouldn't have left her on the side of the road. She really gives zero fucks about anoyone who's not related to her, even good friends.

[Mornai]

Certainly. If she did put aside extra rations, then we can add hypocrite to her long list of negative traits.

"How's it goin' Lee? From up here it looks like you're playing favorites." -Ep 2

If i were driving the RV i probably would have backed over her before driving off.

[Jaded X Gamer]

Yup. My first time playing I thought Lilly smiled at Clem, but in my later playthroughs she was clearly smiling when Larry turns around to look up at her.

You know, I went back and watched that scene again, and wow, you're right, it's her dad she was smiling at. I already knew she was a massive daddy's girl but that smile is...kinda creepy to say at least.

[Bidoof]

Lily, wasn't ever being fair with food. She only cared about herself and her dad, she did t care if everyone else was dying of hunger! (By the way, I lost my login info for my old account so now I'm starting again :( I was TWDFTW)

So yeah...

[HarjKS]

Lily, wasn't ever being fair with food. She only cared about herself and her dad, she did t care if everyone else was dying of hunger! (By the way, I lost my login info for my old account so now I'm starting again :( I was TWDFTW)

So yeah...

No she didn't. There's no proof or implication she kept food away from Lee in order to feed her dad. Lilly was a great character, and no one was 'dying of hunger' everyone was just starving not to the point where they'd start dying.

She cared about Lee, Clementine and Larry. Even if you don't attempt to save her dad with CPR, she is still friendly to Clementine. You don't even know what you're talking about- Quit while you're ahead.

[Toitle_John]

...She put her family ahead of others, why should I hate her for that? We do the same thing with Clementine, we don't consider that someone else might need food more than her. I never really hated her, it was mostly her dad and then whenever she defended him I would get pissed.

[8Bit_System]

Nah, Lily made the right call there in my view. One shouldn't consider to hate unless s/he's sure s/he would do better in a given situation.

Lily made exactly one mistake, one she couldn't complain to be hated for... personally, all I feel for her is pity.

[ClemOwnedYou]

I get what Lilly is Lilly. Some people grow up differently so couldnt understand why she is the way she is. So be it.

I really liked Lilly until she shot Carly. I even let her back on the RV, but was still upset.

From reading this forums alot of ppl are all over the place. Its a game people, or a comic book. Lets not get carried away! ;-)

[The Fallen]

I don't hate her for that, its not a good leadership trait, but its pretty natural.

I hate her because she was a raging psycho bitch. :p

[Hudomonkey]

Even if Lilly Prioritized food for her Dad it doesn't make her bad...
Practically every Lee gave Clem food...
If Kenny was in charge he would give all the food to Duck and Katjaa...
Doug and Ben gobbled up all the biscuits on the way home...
The Bandits wanted all the food for themselves...
Everyone would have exploited the food if they had the chance
I know I did...