What is your opinion about TellTale at this point?

[Adell135]

I'm sure the community has varying opinions about TellTale at this point. What do you, the player, have to say regarding their execution of the Walking Dead Game so far?

Personally, I've done my best to remain hopeful, thinking that the two-month wait for episode 2 was typical of TellTale's release strategy. We finally get episode 2 and, lo' and behold, we have an assortment of bugs to contend with. Some are having their saves corrupted, choices from the previous episode don't tranfer, some were unable to start the game to begin with, and others are simply unable to download the second episode at all. On top of this, many are already speculating that the third episode won't release until next month!

My hope is running out, and disappointment is gradually setting in at this point.

[The_Cheshire_Cat]

Meh,

I say leave them alone and let them do their job.

They already got paid so no amount of belly aching gonna do. They don't have to do anything special for your dime anymore. I was satisfied with the second installment, the series is looking good and that's all I can ask for.

I am not a fan of episode release and if telltale were to make another game I like but on episode release I would just hold my horses (and my money) and wait until the product is finished before I pay them.

But other than that I don't plan anything around them folks. They gonna do them so I just gotta do me.

[Maximuswood]

Don't get me started, they haven't released the PS3 version for the UK :(

It'll be interesting to read people's views though

[Adell135]

I still do have appreciation for what they have released so far and am willingly going to play the remaining subsequent episodes. The Walking Dead is a good game, but it is just a shame how TellTale has proceeded in releasing their title.

[Maximuswood]

I still do have appreciation for what they have released so far and am willingly going to play the remaining subsequent episodes. The Walking Dead is a good game, but it is just a shame how TellTale has proceeded in releasing their title.

Me too because I'm hooked on the game already. if I could walk away from it, I would.

[noodle]

I just want to get what i paid for and get the hell out. As soon as the series is out/they refund season passes i'm not looking back at TT.

[marcu5]

disappointed in them. lied about the release dates, put out a very bugged/glitchy product, haven't seen any announcements regarding the game deletes for ps3 users. i like this game but after it's done, i'll never support them again

[Lone_Wanderer]

I think story-wise and gameplay-wise its a very solid experience.

On the tech side of things however, its horrible.
Full of glitches and gamebreaking bugs with save files.. I feel like stuff like this should be patched ASAP ( I aged by 10 years, dealing with blackscreen shenanigans myself ) or not be in the release version at all.

Also seems like TellTale is kinda passive about all these problems. Might be just my lack of informations tho.

[Adell135]

I think story-wise and gameplay-wise its a very solid experience.

On the tech side of things however, its horrible.
Full of glitches and gamebreaking bugs with save files.. I feel like stuff like this should be patched ASAP ( I aged by 10 years, dealing with blackscreen shenanigans myself ) or not be in the release version at all.

Also seems like TellTale is kinda passive about all these problems. Might be just my lack of informations tho.

They have been a little too quiet in most instances since the release of the first episode (or so the forum would indicate).

[luffman]

Am Pissed, Disapointed, angry at them not only did they lie but they have no idea when it will be released for the uk, as i said before I feel robbed, and they will have to give me a refund

P.S this is the last time I'm ever going to buy a game made from them.

[Adell135]

Am Pissed, Disapointed, angry at them not only did they lie but they have no idea when it will be released for the uk, as i said before I feel robbed, and they will have to give me a refund

P.S this is the last time I'm ever going to buy a game made from them.

You certainly aren't the first to state that this is your last TellTale product. With the advent of the the Walking Dead title in TellTale's repetoire of released games, the company has no doubt recieved many new additions to the community. It's a shame that these same customers may never come back...

[Lone_Wanderer]

They have been a little too quiet in most instances since the release of the first episode (or so the forum would indicate).

Its just tearing me apart when game with such a heart belongs to the studio/developer/whatever who dont give a damn..

Oh well.. lets just hope for some kinda of patch.. in next couple of months..

[Adell135]

Its just tearing me apart when game with such a heart belongs to the studio/developer/whatever who dont give a damn..

Oh well.. lets just hope for some kinda of patch.. in next couple of months..

I hope said patch makes it in the next two weeks!

[jojimbo]

I think they should have finished all 5 episodes and released them in one go, now i am left wanting, and with sooo many other great games coming, well...

[Syd]

I still like 'em, though they should certainly be more vocal about delays and such.

I kind of like the episodic model. While it holds back the development in some respects (each episode is made under a small budget and tight schedule), it also has clear advantages in others (like the usual increase in quality over the course of a series because criticism of earlier episodes is applied to later episodes. Wouldn't be possible if everything was done in one go).

I don't know if there's any of you that haven't bothered to look at the rest of their catalog, but episodic gaming is just what they do. It's something they've been doing it for years and it's how they carved out their niche. I've played plenty of their other games so I was already quite familiar with how they make their episodic games before I picked up TWD.

Still, that delay was the longest delay they've had in quite some time. They really should been more vocal about what the problem was.

[Jazzy]

I'm seeing a lot of new players here, I'm guessing the episodic format isn't for everyone. I got used to it and don't mind it myself as it means that I get to play some of the game earlier than I would otherwise and then theorycraft with everyone on the boards as to what might happen next, but it's still a shame to see new guys swearing off it and not enjoying it, and I can relate. I honestly have not had any real bugs to report myself, it doesn't seem to be any more buggy than a lot of big budget games I can name, but maybe I've just been lucky.

Either way, hope it gets better for you guys and that it doesn't frighten you off from trying another TTG game in the future.

[kikyouchanx]

They need to be more vocal about delays and such, I agree. I do like the episodes being released every month or so. It teaches you patience and how to wait. TWD is my first game from TellTale, and I'm okay with the delays, but do find it rather irritating not being told it'd be delayed

[Jembellbee]

It's not even the delays that are really bugging me, it's the complete ignorance they have for their buyers. Surely it benefits them to say 'Whoops, sorry, we've fucked up here and will try our best to sort it' than just hide behind silence? You can understand the delays a little what with E3 and all but c'mon guys!! You've lost all your dignity.

[Adell135]

Either way, hope it gets better for you guys and that it doesn't frighten you off from trying another TTG game in the future.

I'm glad to see similar comments from oldtime fans of TellTale. I myself am hoping that I don't end up turned off from the company once The Walking Dead has been released in full. From what I've heard they are successful in their own right, and any incidents during the continued release of future episodes won't change that.

EDIT: I hope...

[reno2200]

When it comes to game developers, they'd have to try really hard (in my opinion) to top DICE. They really go all-out to fix/adjust what people don't like in their Battlefield games. TTG have a solid core experience here, but I've come across quite a few bugs (nothing game-breaking yet - just reloading the checkpoint has fixed everything I've come across) and the delay for Ep 2 has got a lot of people all riled up.

Although, much like the show, I caught myself wondering why I was so engrossed in what amounts to people talking to each other, I find the game(s) enjoyable. One ongoing issue I've found (360) is that when there's any sort of screen transition, everything freezes up for a couple of seconds. Glitches aside, I think that this is a solid game. I'm considering getting Back To The Future now - probably less bugs since it has been out for awhile, and no waiting for it to be released.

[Sergiy]

They take long to release episodes, but they're well made.

[Syd]

One ongoing issue I've found (360) is that when there's any sort of screen transition, everything freezes up for a couple of seconds.

I've seen that issue in pretty much every TTG game I've played (though I play them on my gaming PC).

I'm almost certain that it's because of their engine.

I'm considering getting Back To The Future now - probably less bugs since it has been out for awhile, and no waiting for it to be released.

BTTF is one of their weaker releases, and was fairly divisive. Some liked it, some hated it.

[Jazzy]

I'm glad to see similar comments from oldtime fans of TellTale. I myself am hoping that I don't end up turned off from the company once The Walking Dead has been released in full. From what I've heard they are successful in their own right, and any incidents during the continued release of future episodes won't change that.

EDIT: I hope...

Yeah, unfortunately they have always suffered from delays for as long as I have followed them. I have always preferred delays to buggy products though being made to wait while in the middle of a game can be quite frustrating though it also usually means that they can alter things that are clearly not working in earlier episodes (they even went and changed a character's voice, LeChuck, when they managed to get the actor from the older games to voice him part way through I believe).

Not sure how long the delay for episode 2 was since I only recently got round to trying it out, but the delays have usually been in the region of a couple of days to maybe a week if I am remembering correctly (which I might not be, not been around for a while tbh) so if it has been longer than that this time then either it was a one off hopefully or they have been getting worse while I've been away...

[Adell135]

Not sure how long the delay for episode 2 was since I only recently got round to trying it out, but the delays have usually been in the region of a couple of days to maybe a week if I am remembering correctly (which I might not be, not been around for a while tbh) so if it has been longer than that this time then either it was a one off hopefully or they have been getting worse while I've been away...

Let's hope that the latter isn't the case!

[Jazzy]

BTTF is one of their weaker releases, and was fairly divisive. Some liked it, some hated it.

Yeah, I enjoyed it but it wasn't their best work imho. Still, it's decent and doesn't require knowledge on the storyline allowing you to jump right into it. Not played Sam and Max season 1 for quite some time so not sure how well it's been holding up.

[Jazzy]

Let's hope that the latter isn't the case!

If it is the latter, then I'm not going to be happy, there's very few developers left whose games I enjoy...

[Syd]

Yeah, I enjoyed it but it wasn't their best work imho. Still, it's decent and doesn't require knowledge on the storyline allowing you to jump right into it. Not played Sam and Max season 1 for quite some time so not sure how well it's been holding up.

I thought the story was handled well in BTTF, but it was far too easy for my tastes.

Sam and Max season 1 was also really easy, as far as adventure games go. They definitely made up for that with season 2, though.

[zenstrata]

People are silly getting angry about an episodic release schedule. If they are not happy with it, then they should just purchase the games which are already finished. Or they should wait until all the episodes are finished and released, then buy them all at once.

As for the type of game, I would like to see something more like the original "Quest For Glory: So you want to be a Hero?" Game from Sierra. A bit more complexity basically than the current telltale releases. But still firmly in the adventure game genre.

[RoboSheriff]

its fine, i just wish they had more communication with their costumers in forums, i wouldn't mind a 3-4 month if i was told what is going on in the studio lol.

[Zeruis]

I have mixed feelings. I love the game in its entirety, and I hope that Lee and Clem survive in the end. The things that make Telltale so unreliable are late release dates, and very glitchy gameplay(they deleted my save files...). The game is amazing...when it works.

[Agent 5]

Its just tearing me apart when game with such a heart belongs to the studio/developer/whatever who dont give a damn..

Oh well.. lets just hope for some kinda of patch.. in next couple of months..

That's a bit harsh. I doubt the game would be of the caliber that it is if Telltale didn't invest itself in producing such a good game. The lack of communication is frustrating, but we don't know why there's been no communication. They don't own the Walking Dead IP, they just have the rights to produce Walking Dead IP. As such they may not even control the situation.

If they do, however, this really isn't justifiable. While I encourage them to draw out releases in order to ensure that the games are worthwhile, they are not Valve and really can't get away with this. As such while this hasn't colored my opinion of Telltale, I would be upset if the delays became a trend. I won't lie, however. I would be willing to suffer through another delay, so long as this didn't become a trend.

[Dildor]

Telltale is releasing an above-par adventure game that's tailored to choice and fan-feedback. That's not an easy task, so I choose to give them some lee-way in regards to the delays. (Not the EU release, but I think it's Sony holding things up.)

I however, am not happy with most of the communication they have with us about these things. So far, every announcement they've made has caused the forum to flare up with upset and confused posts. It could all be avoided with a little more honesty and information. We did trust them with our money before the games is made, after all.

Also, if the xbox version gets released 2 days first again, I'm gonna be pissed having to sift through spoilers on the internet for the whole time just because tell tale wants a little more money.

[Holiday on Matul]

My current opinion of Telltale Games ranks them thus:
Less irritating than censorship but more irritating than Ronaldo, the Walking Dead IMDB discussion board and mosquitos combined.

To summarise my opinion: Ronaldo+Mosquitos+TWD IMDB Forum>TTG>censorship

[Hero1]

Walking Dead is the best Telltale game so far. The value for a $4-5 game is absolutely brilliant. The writing and voicework is still their strength. Communication with fans could be better.

[Saracenar]

I'm not angry or anything. Considering the quality of the voice acting and the story and the product in general, I think it's mighty fine of them to sell it to us for $5 per episode.

The delay didn't really bother me that much, but I would like to see more communication from Telltale. That said, I love The Walking Dead: The Game think Telltale have done a great job.

[BSM]

I love the game, find the project interesting, but I'm disappointed with the way it's being handled. As mentioned, the gap between the first 2 seems a bit excessive. Following that pattern, we could see the New Year before the end of the series. Also, the bugs are a pretty bad. I just wiped the game completely off of my computer, started a new save, played both episodes, but I still have problems. Oddly enough, the game recognizes a few of my decisions, but the ones that really "matter," aren't logged when I continue my game.

If they had held it back a bit so a new episode could come out every month (preferably ever two weeks), that would have been better. Also, it's almost been a week without a patch to fix the corrupted save files. That's a little rough too.

I forgot, I think they should be more vocal on the progress that they've made in completing a current episode. Give people something to look forward to, you know? Back when we only had episode 1, there were loads of rumors of when the game was coming out. I feel like they should have a bulletin that gets updated, allowing us to know when the next episode might be coming out.

[magic88889]

The thing about Telltale, is you can't deny that they create excellent games. Really, I have almost every one in one form or another, and I've loved every one of them.

While I'm a bit surprised and a lot disappointed about the lack of communication during this last delay, I know there was some reason for it. Perhaps it was legal or something (that's got me really frustrated over at mystmovie.com)

But I still love Telltale. They consistently put out great games that are usually delivered on time (with the occasional delay). I am constantly amazed at what they are able to do in such a short time with so few resources. Reminds me of Cyan of old.

[Bashtee]

2 Things:

1) The facial expressions sometimes seem to be a bit off, hope it's just a bug.
2) The game performance. Graphics are OK, I like the style, but the sceneries are rather small and are driving my 7970 to a point, where I can actually hear it.

Otherwise? Meh, fine, as long as they release my heroine on a regular basis.

[Sentinarian]

I first put my trust in Telltale with the Jurrasic Parc game. Which sucked imo. Game was so full of flaws and was just unplayable on PC. I was thinking about putting my trust (and money) in them again for TWD but after what I've read on forums and in reviews, I won't. Same problems for PC as with JP. So no thank you. I won't give my money to a Console developer who don't seem to properly test their product for all platforms. Too bad, because the ideas are very good and appealing, put the actual products just don't cut it. They've dug a very big hole for themselves and seem content at staying there for now.

[CapnJay]

My opinion on TTG they listen to the fans. They've made us like Kenny then they made us despise him. They've created a legion of loyal Clementine fans and then made it so doing what she wants {i.e. not stealing from the car] may conflict with doing what she needs [i.e. giving her a warm hoodie so she doesnt get sick] now I consider TWDG a vision of things to come. If TTG isn't offended i'd like to say i see this game asd the wright brothers plane. Sure it's got some issues. but it could lead to a future of games where instead of the Walking Dead episode one through five you could have lee split and one full episode being about Lee and Clementine in woodbury if you chose lily or Lee and clementine on [or getting to] kennys boat if you chose him or a full episode scouting out an place to make your own camp instead of making them possible endings. right now the technology makes it so TTG has to be fairly linear to prevent us from ending up with six gig episodes [assuming its the same size on all systems] but this could be the start of something truely amazing. and who knows whats next in store in episode maybe the reason doug keeps to himself is revealed that he's ashamed he's gay. or maybe carleys revealed to be a fed or a convict? you dont know and your left guessing and Hell half the forum thinks Lilys going to woodbury in episode but maybe she's not maybe she wont got till or 5 or at all if it's in it's own universe. You dont know and not many other series have that appeal. Example Eureka im one hundred percent positive that whats caused felicia day to go nuts is Senator Wen. no surprise there unless im wrong

[TheBlackDeathOfFinland]

The only reason why I bought The Walking Dead Game is that.... I'm fucking addicted to Robert Kirkman's The Walking Dead Series ( Both The Comic-, Tv- And now game-series )
I thought this would be a good way to pass time until the 100th issue of comics and for the 3rd season of tv-series..... :confused:

[Aexra]

They lack will, experience, employees to work on deadlines.

[Goldrock]

telltale is a great gaming company for the adventure game fans not just for the walking dead series neither they been around. I love pretty much all their games. Just dont like their lack of communication especially after you have already forked over the cash and paid for a whole season pass especially when they kinda force it on you. then after they delay part of the game like an extra month. other than that negativity great game makers.

[Lockmort]

It's now wednesday the 4th of july and still no season 2 for us in Europe.

What we must do is unite and make sure the bastards don't get away with this. I'm fed up and I want my money back. This is pure false advertisement: "monthly episodes". There are laws against that. Even if Xbox and PSN US users already got to play season 2, it was still a month late so they got screwed as well, just not as much as us. I for one swear I will never buy any games from them ever again and I'm advising everybody I know in real life to do the same. Small companies like Telltale thrive on mouth to mouth advertising, they screwed that up all over Europe big time now. To be absolutely clear, this has nothing to do with Sony. Sony didn't take my money and then went back on our purchase agreement, Telltale did. If I buy a jar of Nutella at a store and I get home and it turns out the store clerk forgot to put the jar in my bag, I'm not going to call up Nutella to ask for my jar or a refund.

At this point we're all individuals to them, so they don't care. We're ants, a couple of complainers who won't do anything anyway. Most of their customers are semi happy because they finally got to play season 2 and will forgot about the false "monthly episodes" promise untill the same problem occurs with season 3. But if we unite we can get those nerfherders right where it hurts, their wallet. There are more people in Europe who aren't able to play the game they paid for almost 3 months ago then there are in the US who finally got to play a month to late. There are literally thousands of us, so lets say if 10.000 of us unite and ask for a refund, that will cost them 200.000$, a small company like Telltale will definitely feel that. It's also pretty easy to accomplish a petition like that through facebook and other social media sites these days. If everybody on this forum alone finds 10 people we're already set.

The thing that pisses me off most about all of this is their total lack of communication. I'm pretty sure they're not reading any of these comments on this forum, which is fine of course. But the fact that they're totally ignoring the problem and the complete arrogance which they display by advertising on big gaming sites is shamefull. "SEASON 2 AVAILABLE NOW". Even if it was available to us, it's still a month to late you bastards, so that's nothing to be proud of. And if you have the kind of money to buy huge amounts of advertising space on sites like IGN you might as well spent a little of that cash to hire a PR Manager or a communications expert who makes sure everybody knows what's going on.

Telltale, you went from being the lovable underdog to a despicable company and I hope we can get you down to the level you deserve to be.

[The_Jesus_12489]

The thing about Telltale, is you can't deny that they create excellent games. Really, I have almost every one in one form or another, and I've loved every one of them.

While I'm a bit surprised and a lot disappointed about the lack of communication during this last delay, I know there was some reason for it. Perhaps it was legal or something (that's got me really frustrated over at mystmovie.com)

But I still love Telltale. They consistently put out great games that are usually delivered on time (with the occasional delay). I am constantly amazed at what they are able to do in such a short time with so few resources. Reminds me of Cyan of old.

I have not played any other TT games before TWD, but I musy say this is by no means a great game. I am a huge TWD fan and have to say I'm a little disappointed how this game has been treated. Story wise this game is great, but with all of the techniquel problems, and the illusion that this game is completely tailored to how you play bugs me a little bit.

I hate to say it, but if TT does anything other than TWD related... i don't see myself buying it.

[klapaucius]

I think TTG has talent when it comes to storyline, voice acting and characterisation and I think The Walking Dead universe suits their style of making video games more than any other IP I can think of. That's why I think they should make season 2. To me, TTG's The Walking Dead is the only game that has conveyed real emotions. Trust me, as a fan of video games that try to portray real characters, TTG beat contenders like Quantic Dream and BioWare by far.

However, as much as I enjoyed TWD, I don't think they can rest on their laurels. To me, they are probably the best company but they could fall by making mistakes (Too much linearity like in Jurassic Park).

All in all, I think Telltale Games' strength lie in

1. Story, characters, voice-acting

2. The Walking Dead universe

3. Non-linearity by introducing choices and consequences

Though I've become a big fan, I can't guarantee I'll be interested in any game they present (Other than TWD SEASON 2 of course lol)

[donmike84]

thats why i never buy a season pass because they don't get my money all in one go i know its more expensive but i don't like the sound of them season passes when things go wrong

[Angrymike]

I'm very pissed at telltale atm. To change "Monthly Episodes" in "Seasonal Episodes" is just MISLEADING. I paid for the Monthly Episodes release pass ( seasonal pass) and i feel ripped off and lied to. Especially the lack of communication about the games holdup are, nicely said: redicilous. If they would just be so nice to open a new thread about this topic, and explain to the community what the hold up is. An "The game will b there ASAP" isnt a answer you should give.. i mean c'mon. This is the last product i will buy from them, period. And ofc i am warning everyone in rlf about the problems and the lack of careing for fans across the ocean. Europe is pissed off and fed up with the delay it's getting. If anyone knows a way of getting my money back, pls let me know.

[R.I.P-Bill]

I'm very pleased with my experience so far. For those who don't appreciate the episodic gaming approach, I'm sorry you're frustrated but it's what they do. It's how they work. And I think the "Choice Matters" element will really bring episodic gaming the attention and praise it deserves. Without space in between, you wouldn't have this fantastic hand in how the game unfolds or great semi-in-jokes. Like if you keep Carly at the end of episode 1, they make a joke about the battery puzzle with the radio in episode 2 and you can't tell me that's not in response to the people flipping over that. I mean, you can try to tell me, I guess. I won't believe you, though.

I'm stoked that we're only two episodes in and the game has already reached such a high caliber and epic story. This would usually make me afraid that the subsequent releases will start to slide but in Telltale's hands, I'm confident the story will continue to improve. Wouldn't surprise me if after episode 5's release, Telltale unleashes a zombie Apocalypse onto the world. The game was only their training. And now the real games begin...

For those pissed at waiting, that sucks. But making such a tailored experience means building multiple games within one and that takes time.

[Kiel555]

I'm sure the community has varying opinions about TellTale at this point. What do you, the player, have to say regarding their execution of the Walking Dead Game so far?

Personally, I've done my best to remain hopeful, thinking that the two-month wait for episode 2 was typical of TellTale's release strategy. We finally get episode 2 and, lo' and behold, we have an assortment of bugs to contend with. Some are having their saves corrupted, choices from the previous episode don't tranfer, some were unable to start the game to begin with, and others are simply unable to download the second episode at all. On top of this, many are already speculating that the third episode won't release until next month!

My hope is running out, and disappointment is gradually setting in at this point.

This is the first TTG product I've tried. I can say that I am a completely satisfied customer and TTG can count on my continued demand for their products. I like this game and have had no technical issues with the game. Very happy with this style/format of an adventure game (I actually prefer strategy games like CivV)

As far as the delay goes, I've recovered but it sure would be cool if TTG threw in a bonus episode where Lee and Carley go back to the farm, find Mark, put him down and bury him. He was one of us and our friend damn it!

[Lanfranc]

For those pissed at waiting, that sucks. But making such a tailored experience means building multiple games within one and that takes time.

I'm sure Episode 2 is quite masterful, but unfortunately, a number of us (Mac users) can't even download it yet now almost a week after the release, so it's so-so with the tailored experience so far.

[Instant Karma]

I 'discovered' this game June 25th, so I didn't have to put up with that 2 month wait between episodes, although it does worry me that I might have to wait until mid-August for the next one. However, I've been extremely happy with the game so far, so I'd say I have a good opinion of them.

[zgamer]

I think TTG has talent when it comes to storyline, voice acting and characterisation and I think The Walking Dead universe suits their style of making video games more than any other IP I can think of. That's why I think they should make season 2. To me, TTG's The Walking Dead is the only game that has conveyed real emotions. Trust me, as a fan of video games that try to portray real characters, TTG beat contenders like Quantic Dream and BioWare by far.

However, as much as I enjoyed TWD, I don't think they can rest on their laurels. To me, they are probably the best company but they could fall by making mistakes (Too much linearity like in Jurassic Park).

All in all, I think Telltale Games' strength lie in

1. Story, characters, voice-acting

2. The Walking Dead universe

3. Non-linearity by introducing choices and consequences

Though I've become a big fan, I can't guarantee I'll be interested in any game they present (Other than TWD SEASON 2 of course lol)

Pretty much agree with those strengths. Ever since Sam and Max Season 1, I have admired how strong the writing has been in so many of their games. They are usually pretty good at capturing the qualities that make their respective properties feel true to their source material, whether it is the goofy vibe of Sam and Max or the character driven drama of the Walking Dead.

Of course, not all of their games are hits. Jurassic Park was a good idea in concept, but in execution the story completely lost weight in the last two episodes and the gameplay throughout was just shallow (I usually don't mind this "cinematic game" style but it did not work there).

The main issue to is that they SERIOUSLY NEED TO UPDATE THEIR GAME ENGINE! They have only made small increments since Sam and Max and it is SERIOUSLY showing its age. They need to take a risk and create a new engine or their games will just not be able to support any bigger and better games they could be making.

That said, I am willing to give Telatle a shot still. They have made mostly enjoyable games so far and I think they still have some juice left in them. I think it boils down to a few key things they need to do:

1.) Try to experiment with more solid original properties. The few they have pumped out just feel underdeveloped next to their mainstay adapted ones. Bioware had to have Mass Effect to get out of KOTOR's shadow so Telltale needs a distinguishably original property of their own.

2.) A new engine. After using the same engine over and over and over, we are seeing it being pushed to its limit with The Walking Dead. Even if the game still looks fantastic, I think it could be even better if they worked on restructuring the engine to smooth out the glitches and bugs. Time consuming yes, but I think it would pay off.

3.) Put a bit more funding into production values. The cutesy computer orchestrated music can be fine in games like SBCG4AP and Back to the Future, but in The Walking Dead it is starting to feel a bit too low tech. If they could get more funding to put higher quality into music, graphical power and such, it can really amp the value of the game.

4.) Solid release schedule. Delays are nothing new in the gaming world and more often than not we are forgiving of delays if there is a solid expectation for when it will be delayed to. As much as I was angry that Bioshock Infinite and The Last of Us were delayed, knowing they had more or less a solid "coming out at this time" date plan helped. It is just frustrating when a company delays something and only announce a release date shortly before the game or content's release (I am looking at you Bioware and your Extended Cut!). So if we had more assurance of a release date or at least an expected by estimate, we would be more patient with the wait I feel

[Zeruis]

Pretty much agree with those strengths. Ever since Sam and Max Season 1, I have admired how strong the writing has been in so many of their games. They are usually pretty good at capturing the qualities that make their respective properties feel true to their source material, whether it is the goofy vibe of Sam and Max or the character driven drama of the Walking Dead.

Of course, not all of their games are hits. Jurassic Park was a good idea in concept, but in execution the story completely lost weight in the last two episodes and the gameplay throughout was just shallow (I usually don't mind this "cinematic game" style but it did not work there).

The main issue to is that they SERIOUSLY NEED TO UPDATE THEIR GAME ENGINE! They have only made small increments since Sam and Max and it is SERIOUSLY showing its age. They need to take a risk and create a new engine or their games will just not be able to support any bigger and better games they could be making.

That said, I am willing to give Telatle a shot still. They have made mostly enjoyable games so far and I think they still have some juice left in them. I think it boils down to a few key things they need to do:

1.) Try to experiment with more solid original properties. The few they have pumped out just feel underdeveloped next to their mainstay adapted ones. Bioware had to have Mass Effect to get out of KOTOR's shadow so Telltale needs a distinguishably original property of their own.

2.) A new engine. After using the same engine over and over and over, we are seeing it being pushed to its limit with The Walking Dead. Even if the game still looks fantastic, I think it could be even better if they worked on restructuring the engine to smooth out the glitches and bugs. Time consuming yes, but I think it would pay off.

3.) Put a bit more funding into production values. The cutesy computer orchestrated music can be fine in games like SBCG4AP and Back to the Future, but in The Walking Dead it is starting to feel a bit too low tech. If they could get more funding to put higher quality into music, graphical power and such, it can really amp the value of the game.

4.) Solid release schedule. Delays are nothing new in the gaming world and more often than not we are forgiving of delays if there is a solid expectation for when it will be delayed to. As much as I was angry that Bioshock Infinite and The Last of Us were delayed, knowing they had more or less a solid "coming out at this time" date plan helped. It is just frustrating when a company delays something and only announce a release date shortly before the game or content's release (I am looking at you Bioware and your Extended Cut!). So if we had more assurance of a release date or at least an expected by estimate, we would be more patient with the wait I feel

This. Besides the Technical errors, the game is gold.

[MojoMaster]

4.) Solid release schedule. Delays are nothing new in the gaming world and more often than not we are forgiving of delays if there is a solid expectation for when it will be delayed to. As much as I was angry that Bioshock Infinite and The Last of Us were delayed, knowing they had more or less a solid "coming out at this time" date plan helped. It is just frustrating when a company delays something and only announce a release date shortly before the game or content's release (I am looking at you Bioware and your Extended Cut!). So if we had more assurance of a release date or at least an expected by estimate, we would be more patient with the wait I feel[/B]

Big BIG difference though, is that they have already "sold" the product on the basis of a schedule that they have now broken.

They have taken people's cash for all five episodes and have communicated nothing with regards to the delays.

That is completely unacceptable, whichever way you want to look at it.

Yeah, it's "only a game" but they have still sold a product and not delivered on the conditions they set out in the beginning.

They should be giving the customers a discount at the very least.

[greenj2]

The love I have for their 'Walking Dead' games is matched only by the disdain I have for their contemptible treatment of it's fans and paying customers over the past month or so. Delays are excusable, silence isn't.

In future, any small amount of communication at all would go a long way towards improving my overall opinion of them.

It also makes me wonder what horrible truth they were hiding that made them think complete silence would be a better alternative. I don't think TTG are stupid, no game developer would risk alienating their fanbase unless they had a damn good reason for it.

[CapnJay]

It also makes me wonder what horrible truth they were hiding

"It's PEOPLE!"

[TrickyZombie]

ASIDE FROM GAME-BREAKING GLITCHES THAT CORRUPT YOUR SAVE FILES AND ERASE THEM AFTER 3rd PLAYTHROUGH OF EPISODE 2( PS3), FORCING YOU TO REPLAY THE GAME AD NAUSEUM WITH THE UNCERTAINTY OF NOT WORRYING IF IT WILL BE FIXED, AND THEN HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE FRUSTRATION OF NO ANSWER IN SIGHT, TO THEN REALIZE THIS PROBLEM WILL BE EVIDENT THROUGH ALL EPISODES... pretty decent. Although treating a TellTale representative with the same affection you'd give a Zombie if you had a hammer in your hand, might make me feel better.

[greenj2]

It also makes me wonder what horrible truth they were hiding that made them think complete silence would be a better alternative...

"It's PEOPLE!"

:D

"Look for yourselves. Episode 2 is upstairs with NO FUCKING RELEASE DATE!"

[CapnJay]

:D

"Look for yourselves. Episode 2 is upstairs with NO FUCKING RELEASE DATE!"

Kenny: Did you find something Lee?
Lily: Lee what the hell are you talking about?
Larry: Don't humor him it's always something with this guy. Now sit down TTG has made you a game.

[ozzmann]

In my opinion TTG is a typical business. The bottom line is that dollar bill so thats what comes first. Cant say as a customer I like it but the primary function of most if not all businesses is to make money.:D


http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/202420-1/Harassment-role-reversal-smack-dat.gif? (http://forgifs.com)

[coolsome]

I like TTGames Lego games especially Lego Batman.

[Vainamoinen]

coolsome... you're not only in the wrong thread. You're at least in the wrong sub-forum if not in the wrong world. Get out before I call the "Whatever" guys.

[coolsome]

Get out before I call the "Whatever" guys.

Are they like the Nobodies off Kingdom Hearts?

[SirPurple]

I like TTGames Lego games especially Lego Batman.
Traveller's Tales make the Lego games. They are excellent. Please don't confuse them with the shoddy Telltale lot!

[8Bit_System]

Traveller's Tales make the Lego games. They are excellent. Please don't confuse them with the shoddy Telltale lot!
But I love the shoddy Telltale lot!

Have fun playing virtual Lego in the future SirP urple.http://www.freedomscientific.com/lsg/imgs/200810_images/HatsOff.jpg

[ozzmann]

TTG delivers a great gaming experience (albeit late) I will buy more games from these guys for sure. (and flame them a little when appropriate):D

[Master of Aeons]

I love most things Telltale does, but hate Strongbad. That was a mistake.

[CapnJay]

making a homestar runner game before the creators dissappeared into an alternate universe and stopped updating their website {i know they had babies but a TTG dev is working on this game and he's a new dad he should get a special credit} was a bad idea?

[BiscuitDude]

I like TT Games, S&M, HomeStar, BTTF, JP, WD. I like the stories and gameplay, but I'm always disappointed by the technical execution and the post-release support which is non-existent as far as I can gather. Whereas some game companies seek to rectify buggy products, TT just seem to let it slide, like the problem will just disappear by itself.

[The_Ripper]

I like TT Games, S&M, HomeStar, BTTF, JP, WD. I like the stories and gameplay, but I'm always disappointed by the technical execution and the post-release support which is non-existent as far as I can gather. Whereas some game companies seek to rectify buggy products, TT just seem to let it slide, like the problem will just disappear by itself.

This.

Plots and gameplay are damn good and I love this things from them. But technically the games have some bugs that are so obvious (like the cursor disappears on JP or the savegames issue with TWD) and Telltale, once they completed the season, they forget about giving support to the game or fixing this bugs with patches.

I can understand that, because of episodic releases there is no time for beta testing... but at least fix this issues when you've completed the season!

[Lanfranc]

It's safe to say that after three weeks of not being able to download WD ep. 2, one week with no replies to my email, and not even a single word about the issue in public, much less a solution to it, my opinion of Telltale has deteriorated to a point I would not have imagined possible just two months ago.

It is certainly the last time I have bought a game directly from them. I guess whether it will be the last time I buy their games at all will depend on how they deal with this in the next couple of weeks or so. I'm not optimistic.

[The_Cheshire_Cat]

This.

Plots and gameplay are damn good and I love this things from them. But technically the games have some bugs that are so obvious (like the cursor disappears on JP or the savegames issue with TWD) and Telltale, once they completed the season, they forget about giving support to the game or fixing this bugs with patches.

I can understand that, because of episodic releases there is no time for beta testing... but at least fix this issues when you've completed the season!

Yeah, I thought about that too.

I think the best thing they can do is finish the game and release it when it is complete and then maybe sell add on's and the like. That way they can have a continued stream of revenue and it is still profitable to smash bugs and the like.

And when I say add on's I mean story lines and options that may have not been available from the first release.

[Marvel13]

Go into the Walking Dead game, bombs and won't open after I have already completed episodes 1 and2, reboot and then get in, but it now asks for a user id and password and all of my saved games are gone? Was there some of phantom update to the software I didn't know about? Not impressed with this event, bugs, story line or game play.

[Master of Aeons]

The only bug that ever stopped me from enjoying my game was in Back to the Future when doors didn't work in an area. Aside from that, I still don't have any problems.

[Thasic]

The only game I have from Telltale is Walking Dead. From the standpoint of game design, they have done an adequate job. I like the game, it is interesting and entertaining.

From the standpoint of customer service, they are terrible. I hesitate to purchase another game from them in the future. If I had not already paid for the entire Walking Dead series (and failed to get a refund when the second episode was so late) I would probably not continue to purchase the new releases. Being late with the game is not my primary issue. Not keeping the customers informed of what is going on, that is piss poor business ethics. Are these guys a bunch of twelve year olds pretending to run a business? If this is the way they normally do things, Telltale is not long for the world.

BTW, the fact they managed to finally get the second episode out does not make up for the lack of information. I can't think of anything Telltale can do to get back in my good graces, ever. Some may say I'm just one guy so why should they care. Well, I guarantee numerous others feel the same way and just don't show up to the forums to vent. When a friend asks any of them about Telltale or Walking Dead game, what are they likely to say? An Indie company like Telltale survives on word of mouth and good will of their customer base. They have lost that with me and many others.

[Demopan]

I'm mad, because I have a game-crippling bug that doesn't allow me to play episode 2 at all and so do many others, and absolutely nothing has been done about it by them or can be done about it by us.

[TheWildcard]

The only game I have from Telltale is Walking Dead. From the standpoint of game design, they have done an adequate job. I like the game, it is interesting and entertaining.

From the standpoint of customer service, they are terrible. I hesitate to purchase another game from them in the future. If I had not already paid for the entire Walking Dead series (and failed to get a refund when the second episode was so late) I would probably not continue to purchase the new releases. Being late with the game is not my primary issue. Not keeping the customers informed of what is going on, that is piss poor business ethics. Are these guys a bunch of twelve year olds pretending to run a business? If this is the way they normally do things, Telltale is not long for the world.

BTW, the fact they managed to finally get the second episode out does not make up for the lack of information. I can't think of anything Telltale can do to get back in my good graces, ever. Some may say I'm just one guy so why should they care. Well, I guarantee numerous others feel the same way and just don't show up to the forums to vent. When a friend asks any of them about Telltale or Walking Dead game, what are they likely to say? An Indie company like Telltale survives on word of mouth and good will of their customer base. They have lost that with me and many others.

Sums up exactly how I feel. First game with this company and will likely be my last.

[CapnJay]

I think Jake should answer the questions he can twice a week in the Questions thread.

[Woodsyblue]

When LucasArts killed off its adventure game department in favour of producing high-revenue earning licence games with bad gameplay it was dark days, but when Telltale rose from the ashes and helped make adventure games relevant again it was a brilliant f-you to all the greedy publishers out there that care more about profits than making great games. But now, in the face of everything they were built on, Telltale themselves have turned to producing high-revenue earning licence games with bad gameplay.

http://i.imgur.com/h3f7nl.jpg

[SteveG]

But now, in the face of everything they were built on, Telltale themselves have turned to producing high-revenue earning licence games with bad gameplay.

To be honest most of the current problems have little to nothing to do with the IP being used. In my opinion the main "problem" is that Telltale is now trying to release their games on all platforms at the same time. In the past the PC version would be released first and then the Mac and console versions would be released a few weeks or months later. This gave the developers enough time to properly concentrate on each platform.

Now that all versions are released within a few days of each other there is significantly less time to iron out any platform-specific bugs and release times have increased overall. As a PC gamer I wish Telltale would go back to the old release schedule.

[Woodsyblue]

But it's not just the bugs that are a problem, it's the lack of gameplay. In The Walking Dead there are moments where, literally, all you are asked to do is to walk forward, not to mention the times when there is only a single possible thing to on the screen to click in order to progress to the next cut scene.

Telltale don't make real games any more, just interactive movies that sell on the strength of their licence.

[SteveG]

Telltale don't make real games any more, just interactive movies that sell on the strength of their licence.

Let's not be too hasty with declaring that Telltale no longer makes "real" games. Remember that we are only a year removed from the "Back to the Future" game which was pretty much a classic adventure game in terms of player interactivity. I have a hard time believing that the upcoming "King's Quest" game won't done in a classic adventure game style as well.

[CapnJay]

and then just to spite woodsyblue TTG makes a true adventure game

TEXT adventure game that is

[Woodsyblue]

Remember that we are only a year removed from the "Back to the Future" game which was pretty much a classic adventure game in terms of player interactivity.

This is sarcasm, right? I mean you are aware that any legitimate player interactivity in Back to the Future is just an illusion and that it had the most non-existent gameplay (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23810) of any supposed adventure game I've ever played. BttF:TG is where this whole interactive movie train started. To be honest, in my opinion, Jurassic Park and The Walking Dead are better games because at least they aren't pretending to be adventure games. I mean the puzzles are just as weak but at least that's not what the games are based around anymore.

Edit: If you don't want to read that entire post I think this quote sums it up best:
It becomes quickly apparent that the idea of an open area is simply a visual illusion that quickly falls apart if the player decides to do anything unexpected. The entire town is a thin hallway, and Marty can essentially only walk in circles along that thin path, with one hallway branching off near the soup restaurant. Exploring this section for the first time gives an impression that the rule is "Look, don't touch". Marty can't walk on the grass. Marty can't walk on the street. Marty can't touch or pick up anything, only look and observe. What interaction there is take pains to inform the player that, no, they do not actually matter.

[Master of Aeons]

This is sarcasm, right? I mean you are aware that any legitimate player interactivity in Back to the Future is just an illusion and that it had the most non-existent gameplay (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23810) of any supposed adventure game I've ever played. BttF:TG is where this whole interactive movie train started. To be honest, in my opinion, Jurassic Park and The Walking Dead are better games because at least they aren't pretending to be adventure games. I mean the puzzles are just as weak but at least that's not what the games are based around anymore.

Edit: If you don't want to read that entire post I think this quote sums it up best:

Interesting. Most of it is valid, but I disagree anyway. I think all adventure games are pretty rail-roaded, but play them anyway. You just need a lot of distractions and sidestuff to click on as you do so. Monkey Island 2 and Sam and Max season 1 come to mind. The story doesn't change, events are largely movies, and there's only the right answers and time-wasters, but that's what I buy.

I'd prefer more time put into every release so I can spend nine hours replaying and clicking new stuff, but I've never really been disappointed by anything they've made. Except Strongbad.

[Woodsyblue]

I believe a core component of adventure games is the puzzles. It's something that's really hard to get right, too easy and people complain there isn't enough to it, too hard and people say it's illogical, but when an adventure game finds that perfect balance it's bliss. The problem is Telltale isn't even trying anymore, they are too worried about leaving people behind that they end up punishing those that don't need their assistance.

Another major part of adventure games is interactivity. How many things can you interact with on the screen and how large can your inventory get (hopefully without getting unnecessarily bloated). Sadly, this portion of the latest Telltale games have been flat-out lacking too, no matter which way you look at it. There is just nothing to do but go where they tell you to go and engage cut scenes. And don't say the lack of interactivity is because of their episodic size, because the older Telltale games like Sam & Max and ToMI were plenty more interactive than this!

[Juicius Maximus]

Classic adventure games with bottomless inventories, tons of objects and characters to interact with, and a bevy of inessential dialog, are fun. But do you really see that formula applying to TWD? My suspension of disbelief is already nosediving every time Lee's axe disappears in his pants, or wherever, but I guess that's none of my damn business.

When Tim Schafer made Full Throttle, he said that the puzzles should be consistent with the character you're playing, the game world, and the story. Comparing the game to DOTT, he said Bernard and Ben have only a sandwich in their inventory and are trying to get through a looked door. Bernard is going to jimmy the lock with the toothpick, and slide the mayo'd bread underneath to catch the key on the other side. Ben is going to kick the door down and eat the sandwich.

[Woodsyblue]

But I'm not asking for games like BttF and TWD to be old-school adventure games like DotT, I'm merely saying that they should incorporate actual gameplay, not just the illusion of gameplay. It has to be more than 'click the only hotspot on the screen' or 'walk forward until you get to the next cut scene.'

It's easy not to see how shallow these games really are, if you do what they tell you to do and click on what they tell you to click without trying anything else it can actually feel like you are playing a game. But this is a lie. The experience is on rails and the player has no freedom. It's all cut scenes wrapped around dialogue-trees and one-dimensional scripted events with the occasional insultingly easy puzzle thrown in for good measure. The player doesn't participate, only observe.

[Milosuperspesh]

woodsy i think you're missing the 'point' of point and click games....

and twd was never mean't to be a 'puzzle game'

[Lanfranc]

It's easy not to see how shallow these games really are, if you do what they tell you to do and click on what they tell you to click without trying anything else it can actually feel like you are playing a game. But this is a lie. The experience is on rails and the player has no freedom. It's all cut scenes wrapped around dialogue-trees and one-dimensional scripted events with the occasional insultingly easy puzzle thrown in for good measure. The player doesn't participate, only observe.

That's because the dialogues are the essential part. The freedom lies in the interactions with the game characters and the ability to shape the narrative. It is a railroad to a certain extent, but one with a large number of switches where you get to decide which direction to take – do you support character A over character B, do you save C or D, etc.

I would even say that this is actually a more participatory game experience than in a conventional adventure game where you absolutely have to give the red herring to the troll guarding the bridge in order to advance, because there the story is fixed in advance. It's just an illusion of freedom.

[Coldyron]

I thought Telltale was amazing when they first came into relevance, releasing the first two Sam and Max seasons with Gametap. The Strong Bad game was great too, but after that they slowly started going downhill until they hit rock bottom with the Jurassic Park game. The Walking Dead might be their most well made game, but I'd like to see a return to the pure point and click games.

[Master of Aeons]

When Tim Schafer made Full Throttle, he said that the puzzles should be consistent with the character you're playing, the game world, and the story. Comparing the game to DOTT, he said Bernard and Ben have only a sandwich in their inventory and are trying to get through a looked door. Bernard is going to jimmy the lock with the toothpick, and slide the mayo'd bread underneath to catch the key on the other side. Ben is going to kick the door down and eat the sandwich.

My favorite games have puzzles relevant to the character. The way you solve puzzles as Guybrush or Sam versus Agent Tethers or Lowe from The Dig should really matter. I think they did a good job with Marty not being as Adventure game-ish as other properties, and - despite how limited the playability was - I wasn't disappointed.

But I'm not asking for games like BttF and TWD to be old-school adventure games like DotT, I'm merely saying that they should incorporate actual gameplay, not just the illusion of gameplay. It has to be more than 'click the only hotspot on the screen' or 'walk forward until you get to the next cut scene.'

I really see both sides of this argument and am in favor of Telltale making both styles of games: "cash-ins" which are fun, have limited gameplay, cater to the LCD and are based on popular licenses; and classic games, which are more like Sam and Max and Monkey Island.

On what Woodsyblue said though: the only time I was disappointed with a TTG adventure game was when I played Sam and Max S3E1. Every puzzle had the same solution and I really felt like I was just following a movie. But even during Jurassic Park I never felt railroaded. Weird, I know.

[Juicius Maximus]

That's because the dialogues are the essential part. The freedom lies in the interactions with the game characters and the ability to shape the narrative. It is a railroad to a certain extent, but one with a large number of switches where you get to decide which direction to take – do you support character A over character B, do you save C or D, etc.

I would even say that this is actually a more participatory game experience than in a conventional adventure game where you absolutely have to give the red herring to the troll guarding the bridge in order to advance, because there the story is fixed in advance. It's just an illusion of freedom.

^super true. The "puzzles" in this game are really the choices. Dialogue, food distribution, the saving of lives. Unlike a puzzle solution, there's no wrong answer, but there's no real right one either. The more we play the game, the more unforseen consequences pile up from past decisions. Thus, we agonize over how to progress in the game, but emotionally rather than intellectually. I believe one's appraisal of TWD as a "game" is directly proportionate to one's ability to empathize with it's characters. If one deems TWD "not a game," I think there's an interesting and worthwhile debate to be had in whose hands that perceived failure's blame lies: designer or player?

[der_ketzer]

I'm sure the community has varying opinions about TellTale at this point. What do you, the player, have to say regarding their execution of the Walking Dead Game so far?

The gameplay has gone to hell completely. But at least this is the first game that has writing that keeps me playing. Unlike Jurassic Dildo I actually like the characters & story in this game.

[Master of Aeons]

*Woman uses one Jurassic Dildo.*
*Another appears at her side*
Clever girl.
*Woman is torn apart*

[Woodsyblue]

woodsy i think you're missing the 'point' of point and click games....

and twd was never mean't to be a 'puzzle game'

You are right, TWD is not a point and click adventure game, and it was never meant to be a puzzle game, but I've never said anything to the contrary. What I'm trying to say is that when you do get to the gameplay segments they are extremely weak and contain little interaction. Clickable hotspots are few and far between and the puzzles which are in there are so easy you can solve them without even paying attention.

You say I am missing the 'point' of point and click games, would you care to tell me what the point is then, because it seems like you are just being snide. I've been playing adventure games for the last 20 years, if I actually am missing the point of them I would be rather shocked.

[Juicius Maximus]

Woodsy, I can't speak for Milo, but it seems like you have a perfectly valid opinion about what constitutes good adventure gaming. I think you're missing the point of TWD. This game shouldn't be judged by hotspot density or puzzle complexity, because that's not what it's about. Those things would only serve to bog down the narrative and rob it of any immediacy. The "difficulty" or "challenge" of this game lies in the emotionally, morally fraught decisions forced upon the player. If you don't see it that way, you're either playing it wrong or the designer has failed to engage you emotionally.

[Vainamoinen]

If The Walking Dead game actually is a new kind of genre, it is at its very beginning. The first baby steps in unknown territory, so to speak.

TWD is close to the traditional adventure in its storytelling focus and narrative mechanisms mostly. It adheres to some puzzle traditions in a very rudimentary form also, but as everyone has already perceived, that's hardly what the game is about. If I had to coin a new genre name for TWD, I'd get dangerously close to the "interactive movie". But it would fall short of explaining the definitive merits the game has.

The main question for TTG at the moment seems to be to test different approaches to player immersion into a more complex story. The QTEs in Jurassic Park have worked to that effect for some players, but for me they absolutely didn't. On the contrary, TWD generates immersion through choice in dialogue (definitely a feature also borrowed from the adventure game tradition by the way), and this kind of "social activity" works surprisingly well for me considering the as of yet doubtlessly imperfect implementation of the technique, the lack of other engaging gameplay elements in the series and my general dislike of the zombie genre.

I will never be satisfied with TWD because of the above mentioned flaws alone, but I am convinced that Telltale is on a very interesting path for the future. Possibly even the future of adventure gaming: If I had to attribute an existing genre name on TWD, it would be exactly that, and I have pleaded elsewhere to treat TWD as an exemplary adventure game even. After all, should the pinnacle of the adventure genre only be the story of some guy who solves ancient machinery puzzles and has a knack for macgyvery item combinations? The adventure can do more.

That said, Telltale must reevaluate interactivity in their games yet again, especially scene exploration mechanisms and rewards, and the player's influence on pacing. The shortcomings of these elements in TWD are obvious, and I think they were definitely aimed at during game design.

[Milosuperspesh]

what they said..

twd is a new beast compared to existing titles it is similar to point and click but adds to it, for me vain nails it and agree with him mostly i think he was being bit harsh but valid

just cos a game is point and click/qte doesn't make it that type of game.

look at brutal legend an rpg/3 person slasher/ rts game/music sim yeah it sucked cos it tried to everything and not very well and the demo was actually alot more fun than the game it's self.

ttg are trying new things with twd as with all 'public' testing of a concept its going to have problems bttf and jp where forebears to twd and mistakes have been learned from when ttg make season 2 most of these problems should be addressed.

[Woodsyblue]

This game shouldn't be judged by hotspot density or puzzle complexity, because that's not what it's about. Those things would only serve to bog down the narrative and rob it of any immediacy. The "difficulty" or "challenge" of this game lies in the emotionally, morally fraught decisions forced upon the player.

Oh, I admit the choices in the game are the most compelling part. I will give credit where credit is due, the story so far is fantastic. The second episode in particular was quite gripping and engaging. But I believe a game like this needs to balance good storytelling with good gameplay and while TWD got the storytelling part down I just find the gameplay lacking. Like Vainamoinen, I remain unsatisfied. I am aware that a game like this needs a faster pulse, to use the Hollywood action film term, but Telltale's answer to this is to patronise the player. The game doesn't trust that the player has a brain. The moments where you actually get to control Lee are so restrictive and un-interactive that they may as well be cut scenes.

Without strong, or at the very least decent, gameplay, these games are really just interactive movies. I know that's what a lot of people want, just the story, but I don't think it's enough.

Edit:
ttg are trying new things with twd as with all 'public' testing of a concept its going to have problems bttf and jp where forebears to twd and mistakes have been learned from when ttg make season 2 most of these problems should be addressed.

I wouldn't count on it.

[The_Jesus_12489]

good post woodsyblue. I couldn't agree more. Great story, lacks gameplay element. I never really feel like my decesions change the story THAT dramatically. If it was my choice we would have gotten the hell off that farm as soon as the electric fence "accidently" turned back on.

[Master of Aeons]

Wood: Do you have any thoughts on the progress of Quantic Dream v. the path of Telltale Games?

[Woodsyblue]

Wood: Do you have any thoughts on the progress of Quantic Dream v. the path of Telltale Games?

I've never actually played a Quantic Dream game. I'd love to try Heavy Rain but I don't own a ps3. I do have Indigo Prophecy on PC, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

[Master of Aeons]

I've never actually played a Quantic Dream game. I'd love to try Heavy Rain but I don't own a ps3. I do have Indigo Prophecy on PC, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Indigo Prophecy sucks, but it's useful to see what they were thinking of in development, then playing Heavy Rain. You should play Heavy Rain (or watch a Let's Play) and then tell me what you think of both approaches to "interactive storytelling".

[Zeruis]

Let's see...TT doesn't seem to be doing anything for its mac users, so I thought I would just join up with the 360 users...then out of nowhere TT announces the iOS release date...which just happens to be within two days from now. Let's hope they don't screw this up.

[JPG619]

I have nothing with TTG right now. I have played Back To The Future and Jurassic Park and liked both games and is loving the Walking Dead. I am not mad about being late with games since I know making a game is hard from the start because I have technical background and understand what it takes to make the games.

[CapnJay]

If someone gives me a new Xbox harddrive that actually can play Originals game {because mine got the internal emulator formatted } Then i'd love to chime in with Indigo Prophecy

[Hazl]

Not to good, i wonder what the fanbois breaking point for waiting is, a year, two years, three years?

I didnt set up the schulde, TT did, montly episodes they said, not every other month, or whenever its ready, montly episodes.

This whole episodic gaming thing, is a load of crap.

[Hazl]

People are silly getting angry about an episodic release schedule. If they are not happy with it, then they should just purchase the games which are already finished. Or they should wait until all the episodes are finished and released, then buy them all at once.

Why would i buy another game from TT, i bought this game because it was TWD, i could care less about TT and their craptaistic episodic gaming bullshit.

[Vainamoinen]

Learn to edit your posts. Double posting is annoying.

Also, if you don't have anything new to say...

[fanganga]

What's telltale's record been like on the previous episodic games?

[The_Cheshire_Cat]

Why would i buy another game from TT, i bought this game because it was TWD, i could care less about TT and their craptaistic episodic gaming bullshit.

Fight the power!

What's telltale's record been like on the previous episodic games?
I would be really interested to know.

[thestalkinghead]

TWD is defiantly a point and click adventure game, it's not an interactive film, i have played an interactive D&D film and in that they had different scenes for each decision tree in different locations, but the interaction was only at the end of each scene and feels totally different to TWD game.

TWD game feels like a point and click adventure game accept you dont combine found items to solve a puzzle, you combine dialogue(and some other) choices instead to get the out come YOU want, i do think they should try and match interactive films in decision making impact, like a location that you only go if you make certain choices, it wouldn't be a waste of resources to make parts of a game that most people wont see, i believe its is a fundamental part of a game to have parts everyone wont see if the game has decisions in it

[Antioche]

I don't really care enough to wait for the next episode.

I've said my piece about TTG, & will continue to as the months pass. Whenever they come up in video games; I explain the situation with the walking dead, & the dissapointments with their release format.

Not only will I never; but NO-one I know will likely ever purchase anything from them again.

[Antioche]

Not to good, i wonder what the fanbois breaking point for waiting is, a year, two years, three years?

I didnt set up the schulde, TT did, montly episodes they said, not every other month, or whenever its ready, montly episodes.

This whole episodic gaming thing, is a load of crap.

Ayup...what he said. Shoulda read through the posts & just "liked" that comment.

[ozzmann]

Why would i buy another game from TT, i bought this game because it was TWD, i could care less about TT and their craptaistic episodic gaming bullshit.

What do you want, a handout? I got sixty cents in my pocket....

[Master of Aeons]

What do you want, a handout? I got sixty cents in my pocket....

*smashes his head with a salt lick*

[ommmnomnomnom]

TWD is defiantly a point and click adventure game, it's not an interactive film, i have played an interactive D&D film and in that they had different scenes for each decision tree in different locations, but the interaction was only at the end of each scene and feels totally different to TWD game.

TWD game feels like a point and click adventure game accept you dont combine found items to solve a puzzle, you combine dialogue(and some other) choices instead to get the out come YOU want, i do think they should try and match interactive films in decision making impact, like a location that you only go if you make certain choices, it wouldn't be a waste of resources to make parts of a game that most people wont see, i believe its is a fundamental part of a game to have parts everyone wont see if the game has decisions in it I've played pretty much all the ways you can in 1 and 2 the changes are actually quite minimal, save these people or spare them, piss of this guy and he saves you/doesn't, it's great storytelling, but it's definately doesn't have as many choices as first hoped, but it's early days so :)

[Girlbrushthreepwood]

My opinion about TT at the moment? think it can be summed up in 4 words "The honeymoon Is Over"

[CapnJay]

My opinion about TT at the moment? think it can be summed up in 4 words "The honeymoon Is Over"

So your finally able to get out of bed and get some work done?

[Master of Aeons]

So you're the Elaine Marley of Escape from Monkey Island?

[dankirk]

My opinion about Telltale?

My favorite moments on the computer have been playing Telltale games. Am I looking forward to episode 3? Hell ya! Can I wait until its released? Yep, I'm patient, and I know it will be great. No rush.

[CapnJay]

I'm looking forward to an address in an upcoming episode being 2112 So they can slip a Rush joke into a game they're trying not to Rush.

[godzilla999666]

I honestly think after reading the comments on here, interactive movie is a good description. In episode one it felt to me that i would have 15 min of cut scenes to watch, then 3 min if dialoage choices and 2 minutes of actual play. Not much of a game, more movie than game. Episode 2 was better, but still at least half the time was cut scenes. This is my first telltale game and will be my last. The delays wouldn't be bad if tgier was communications. One post after episode 2comes out about a vague date about when the episode might be done, done not released is not communication. Honestly do you think any feedback about episode 1 affected episode 2? I do not. If i am wrong, then it would not have hurt telltale games to say that " blah blah" which people in episode 1complained about has been changed to " blay blah" in episode 2. Just a simple statement like that could of helped thier public image greatly. If they cared about thier customers and public image, they would be addressing the communication issues, not saying nothing. Jake and the other employees could be addressing this but sadly remain silent on this front.

[Goldrock]

I honestly think after reading the comments on here, interactive movie is a good description. In episode one it felt to me that i would have 15 min of cut scenes to watch, then 3 min if dialoage choices and 2 minutes of actual play. Not much of a game, more movie than game. Episode 2 was better, but still at least half the time was cut scenes. This is my first telltale game and will be my last. The delays wouldn't be bad if tgier was communications. One post after episode 2comes out about a vague date about when the episode might be done, done not released is not communication. Honestly do you think any feedback about episode 1 affected episode 2? I do not. If i am wrong, then it would not have hurt telltale games to say that " blah blah" which people in episode 1complained about has been changed to " blay blah" in episode 2. Just a simple statement like that could of helped thier public image greatly. If they cared about thier customers and public image, they would be addressing the communication issues, not saying nothing. Jake and the other employees could be addressing this but sadly remain silent on this front.


You do relize the game is meant to be played like a cinematic and it is a adventure game right? just checking all their games are the same way ill continure to support their games but telltales lack of communication is really annoying the communication after the late release is not really considered communication to me they need to send that crap out before they delay game not after.

[Master of Aeons]

...more movie than game.
...This is my first telltale game and will be my last.

I know it's pointless to ask if you played Sam and Max Seasons 1-3 or Tales of Monkey Island, but is this your first adventure game as well? If you just bought this because it has The Walking Dead on the cover, then I guess I sorta feel sorry for you.

If you had played Adventure Games or games like Heavy Rain and grew up on Choose Your Own Adventures, I think you'd have liked it more.

[El_Dores]

Sam and Max Seasons 1-3 or Tales of Monkey Island

Sam and Max was epic, especially the C.O.P.S, but though they didn't do Monkey Island Justice.

Personally feel a bit scorned by TTG, just a post to say "hi guys, we're on track" would help, but I've been warned to stay away from their marketing staff

[Milosuperspesh]

You do relize the game is meant to be played like a cinematic and it is a adventure game right? just checking all their games are the same way ill continure to support their games but telltales lack of communication is really annoying the communication after the late release is not really considered communication to me they need to send that crap out before they delay game not after.

exactomondo goldrock.

but the kicker is not everyone realises this simple fact,

because in this current generation most games are fps (cod shite)
so these anti twd 'cos the gameplay sucks' are used to and expect everything through a sniper scope or a shotgun (gearofwarnubs).

Imo ttg deserve credit for trying to broaden our minds with other game styles in some cases resurecting the old classic..

also i feel cod and battlefield are spoiling the industry
a) constant repetition of plots,
b) graphics aren't really being changed much from each sequel to the next.
c) the game play imo can be boring.
d) dlc / map packs seem to get more expensive
e) the new membership schemes on top of the game
f) when some thing new and original comes along no one cares cos they're used to the above garbage..

maybe this is contradiction but i do enjoy crysis 2 single player looking forward to c3 and borderlands 2 ;)

[likeaboss123]

the xbox 360 version is pretty much bug and glithch free i dont have a pc or mac or at least one thats it capible of running this game and i dont have a ps3 so cant say crap about those but in my opinion the xbox version is the prefered way to experience this game my only complaint is the same the realese dates are too long but everything else is fine and i will suport this franchise until the end>

[Master of Aeons]

the xbox 360 version is pretty much bug and glithch free i dont have a pc or mac or at least one thats it capible of running this game and i dont have a ps3 so cant say crap about those but in my opinion the xbox version is the prefered way to experience this game my only complaint is the same the realese dates are too long but everything else is fine and i will suport this franchise until the end>

...LlKE A BOSS

[Milosuperspesh]

well boss seems to have got lucky

as there is a few people who have xbox bugs so either they got fixed before you bought it or they did something stupid and messed up the game..

whats your secret ?

i am on the pc version and i'm bug free also !

[Zeruis]

well boss seems to have got lucky

as there is a few people who have xbox bugs so either they got fixed before you bought it or they did something stupid and messed up the game..

whats your secret ?

i am on the pc version and i'm bug free also !

Well, it's lucky for you. Nothing but bugs on my mac version. I think I'll be switching over to Ps3 if Telltale does nothing for this.

[SouthWardRB]

I bought the season pass as it were a better deal than 25$. I REALLY hate how its not released every week or two. Nevermind every 2 MONTHS!
I swear if Episode 5 isnt released before 2013 I'll demand my money back and Season 2 for free. Or else I'll make sure ALOT of people DONT buy TWDG.

[Master of Aeons]

I bought the season pass as it were a better deal than 25$. I REALLY hate how its not released every week or two. Nevermind every 2 MONTHS!
I swear if Episode 5 isnt released before 2013 I'll demand my money back and Season 2 for free. Or else I'll make sure ALOT of people DONT buy TWDG.

Haha.

[godzilla999666]

They are taking so long, and have annoyed enough people, how can you believe they would get to do a season 2? And don't blame the walking dead, blame telltale games.

[Zeruis]

They are taking so long, and have annoyed enough people, how can you believe they would get to do a season 2? And don't blame the walking dead, blame telltale games.

Uh, I guess it's because of the fact that the game is awesome, despite it's technical flaws. Take a look at Sam and Max, for example. It was awesome, and TT decided to continue on with the story.

[Milosuperspesh]

I bought the season pass as it were a better deal than 25$. I REALLY hate how its not released every week or two. Nevermind every 2 MONTHS!
I swear if Episode 5 isnt released before 2013 I'll demand my money back and Season 2 for free. Or else I'll make sure ALOT of people DONT buy TWDG.

oh south ward if only you'd read the info before you bought the game...

bless ya little cotton socks

'hugs'

[godzilla999666]

Telltale may not have the choice to do another, depends on thier contract with kirkman.

[Bob Page]

disappointed in them. lied about the release dates, put out a very bugged/glitchy product, haven't seen any announcements regarding the game deletes for ps3 users. i like this game but after it's done, i'll never support them again

Wel, l I expectet that much from them. The game ran fine on my PS3, apart from a bit lag in audio/video. My dissapointment is that they have learned nothing since Tales of Monkey Island...

BTW
I saw that my PSN+ had downloaded an update for the game this morning.

[strela]

Awesome :) this is one of their better games so far.

[Bob Page]

What's telltale's record been like on the previous episodic games?

I can only comment on Tales of Monkey Island, just the same as this one, big delays on every episode.. No glitches for me though (I bought that on PC).


BTW, just curious, are TellTale emplies reading this forum ?and if you are, I (and most certain a lot of other people) would be gratefull for your comments on this...

[cubevision]

I think the Episodes released so far are great. That said, I bought this game at the start of summer vacation on the assumption that the releases would be monthly and I'd be able to have the full game by the end of August. If I had any idea that the current release schedule would be even possible when I purchased the game, I would've waited until the game was completely finished before buying. As much fun as the game is, the currently released portion is not at all worth what I paid and if offered the choice, I would rather have had the $25 to spend during the steam summer sale.

I can't see myself purchasing an unfinished telltale game again, although I can easily see myself buying the games after they're finished and put on sale. (Steam's summer sale had Jurassic Park for $15 and Tales of Monkey Island for $8.50 at some point; even the Telltale package was a good deal and I might've gotten it if TWD wasn't included / I didn't have to pay for something I already have)

For the short version, I like the concept of the episodic release, but I hate the implementation. My opinion of Telltale? They dropped the ball. They should've produced more of the game before released the first episode so that they could've just added the last bits during the months between releases. Instead, it seems as if they started with less and are playing catch up.

[Goldrock]

well telltale seems to be having more fun rolling in the spotlight that in the end will bite them in the ass if they are not communicationg the the players. i swear ive seen so much press on the episodes out its gettin annoying starting to make them look like they have big heads.

but yeah one of their best by far. on the gameplay and story side of things in the adventure game genre.

[Zeruis]

If people are swearing enough about the bugs and release dates, why not just wait for the retail release of season 1? I'm pretty sure THAT will be bug-free.

[CapnJay]

If people are swearing enough about the bugs and release dates, why not just wait for the retail release of season 1? I'm pretty sure THAT will be bug-free.

Your an Optimist

[Master of Aeons]

And I'm a skeptic! Skepticism, skepticism, skepticismmmmmmm!

[Milosuperspesh]

i'm a pecimistic optimist.

i see the bad in the good, good in the bad and then good, bad and the ugly...

[godzilla999666]

The good is the storyline so far. The bad is the delay in releasing episodes. The ugly is after all the complaints about poor communications between episode 1 and 2, the company is doing the same between 2 and 3.

[Milosuperspesh]

ttg have said mid august..

so why should they waste their breath confirming it over and over ?

only if it is changed / delay or an actually 100% certain release date...

[godzilla999666]

They said done, not releasing mid august. A simple blog post saying releasing mid august would calm some people done, or a post about why there was delays in the first place.

[pwnah]

I hate companys that have little to no communication at all with there fan-base, meaning after i get my walking dead fix, i will not give them any more money

[pwnah]

ttg have said mid august..

so why should they waste their breath confirming it over and over ?

only if it is changed / delay or an actually 100% certain release date...


If the release date has changed to 5 months from now, Do you honestly think they will tell us?

I highly doubt it

[Milosuperspesh]

If the release date has changed to 5 months from now, Do you honestly think they will tell us?

I highly doubt it

they would tell us when they know it is ready..

they would probably say sorry folks we can't make mid august but we'll tell you when..

[godzilla999666]

At least that would be some sort of communication!!!!

[Zeruis]

It's funny on how the news of PAX Prime on the TT blog has almost all comments concerning the release date of the third episode.

[gonzobonzo]

im pissed off that a couple hours of game play:mad: is all i get for $30 i didnt read tha fine print. on the other hand damn this game is bad a#$ for sure love these kind of games like heavey rain and stuff. i guess ill wait a couple weeks seens how i got tha season pass.:D

[Milosuperspesh]

im pissed off that a couple hours of game play:mad: is all i get for $30 i didnt read tha fine print. on the other hand damn this game is bad a#$ for sure love these kind of games like heavey rain and stuff. i guess ill wait a couple weeks seens how i got tha season pass.:D

welcome to the forums

from hate to love in one post


impressive

[yourgamesbroke]

i for one will never buy an unfinished game again its clear to me that most of the devs are on other projects since they already have our money we are not a priority.

[Milosuperspesh]

i for one will never buy an unfinished game again its clear to me that most of the devs are on other projects since they already have our money we are not a priority.

really? how clear crystal or mud ?

if you'd bother to read stuff the mac/ios versions/ports are being handled by a seperate team.

ep3 has a dedicated team working on it.

not sure on some of my spelling...

[Gman5852]

My opinion about TT at the moment? think it can be summed up in 4 words "The honeymoon Is Over"

That was a pretty dang long honeymoon for signing up in 2009 :p

[Milosuperspesh]

That was a pretty dang long honeymoon for signing up in 2009 :p

but for most of the 3 years guybrush has only recently found his/her voice on here ;)

no offense

[Master of Aeons]

but for most of the 3 years guybrush has only recently found his/her voice on here ;)

no offense

She did spend a large chunk of it as a solid gold statue.

[pompeiiamgotterdammerung]

i like the first two epidoes so far. i like the direction theyre going in, terms of gameplay.

"dynamic decision based cinematic survival horror" i like to call it.

ive heard about alot of bugs. (especially episode 2) so far ive not encountered anything severe or game breaking. (knock on wood)

i'd be real interested in getting the rest of them, especially if they offer some kind of package deal where you can get them, as they are released, all for one price.

lee is a great main character. the faces he makes during some of his responses really cracks me up sometimes.

i really like clementine too. you get so hopped up on the game you really do feel like its your responsibility to keep an eye out for her.

imo, thats the mark of a real good game, you forget youre merely playing one. :)

[NickPope]

This game is awesome.Reminds me of the old Kings Quest,Gabriel Knight games i used to play on DOS OS.Any one remember Stick in the Mud?Or the Police Sketch part in Gabriel Knight?That was way before its time.

[Master of Aeons]

I played six seconds of Gabriel Knight. I think I was just being a snob. Should I go back?

[The Real Jaybles]

Imho, Telltale is what it is. Hey it might not be perfect but who on this rock is exactly that... Perfect!!! They bring us games and thats all I need to know. Okay, the releases of TWD have been delayed... So what? Your not going to make me believe thats all complainers are grade A+ no-lifers who only sit waiting till the next episode to comes out? For the people who like to complain about it, take it as a lifelesson. Don't buy games in advance and/or on pre-order. Wait for 6 months or so and then buy the bundle when it's all complete. You ignoramouses who didn't read how it would be delivered now have learened how Telltale works and that peabrain sized puddle of grey mass on top of your spines has actually learened something.

PS: Even though TTG has changed the release notes on the comming episodes the original EULA and Rules you agreed with when you bought games from them stated that they can delay games releases if it's necessary for the betterment of the end result.

In conclusion, you go TTG your doing a good job and I salute you for the efforts you go through to deliver us good games!!! I actually want a good game instead of a buggy, glitchy mess that is delivered faster!!!

[NickPope]

I played six seconds of Gabriel Knight. I think I was just being a snob. Should I go back?
That was 20+ years ago.I tryed getting my copy to work,but it was not worth it.Save some time and just watch the gameplay vid,but if you like the old school games go for it.The Police Sketch part was way before its time.The CD was Gabriel Knight Sins of the Fathers.

[Zeruis]

i like the first two epidoes so far. i like the direction theyre going in, terms of gameplay.

"dynamic decision based cinematic survival horror" i like to call it.

ive heard about alot of bugs. (especially episode 2) so far ive not encountered anything severe or game breaking. (knock on wood)

i'd be real interested in getting the rest of them, especially if they offer some kind of package deal where you can get them, as they are released, all for one price.

lee is a great main character. the faces he makes during some of his responses really cracks me up sometimes.

i really like clementine too. you get so hopped up on the game you really do feel like its your responsibility to keep an eye out for her.

imo, thats the mark of a real good game, you forget youre merely playing one. :)

If you're looking for a complete package, there's a retail release after season 1 is finished.

[Valo]

Personally, I have been a fan of TTG for a while and I still remain loyal. I understand the anger that those who have paid for season passes have, but I also understand that TTG wants to put out a quality game. I don't mind the delays between episodes as long as the game they produce is as exciting as it has been. The characters are all ones that I can get attached to in one way or another. Larry, I liked him because I hated him being an ass and Clem is adorable and I've come to care about what happens with her over these two episodes. I love all the games that TTG has put out and I'll remain a loyal customer. If an episode gets pushed back, sure I'll be bummed, but I have other games I can play in the meantime. I'm looking forward to Episode 3 and hope it comes out soon.

[TruthAndMoreTruth]

The Walking Dead is my first TT game and I doubt that I'll buy from them again.

[coolsome]

Waaay to early to tell.

[Cyreen]

Being a Sam and Max fan, I've bought many games from Telltale and look forward to more. For those who don't like episodes, buy when the game is complete, who says you have to be first in line, first done?

[Milosuperspesh]

Being a Sam and Max fan, I've bought many games from Telltale and look forward to more. For those who don't like episodes, buy when the game is complete, who says you have to be first in line, first done?

the same people who like to brag about the new stuff to sound cool, who think being the first to complete a game gives them the right to then spoil it for everyone else or because being the first to make a video would get them more views/ad money before others..

[Cyreen]

Well those people seem to whine a lot, which just isn't cool at all.

[Master of Aeons]

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[brunner]

While the technical issues are still a problem, I continue to be happy with the gameplay, plot, and characters. Technical issues can be fixed, but fixing a poorly conceived game isn't really an option. I'll take bugs over bad games any day.

Still giving Telltale my money after all these years. :-)

[Master of Aeons]

I'll take bugs over bad games any day.


Yeah, Strong Bad was terrible, wasn't it?

[Vainamoinen]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/557/Xbawks2.png

This is so true, it hurts.

[Warfolomei]

I am patiently waiting for a game that comes out in separated chapters, so they must be doing something right.

[Milosuperspesh]

This is so true, it hurts.

yup, i had a guy on deus ex hr 360 version he was so chuffed he got it and beat it in pretty fast time i think on hard..

i then told him i did it on legendary in a quicker time plus other hard achievments like pacifist/foxiest of the hounds 150g total

what happened ?

he was silent and never spoke to me again :D

[Warfolomei]

O.O You let Malik die ???
Wait, is this why there was a sneaking mission with Glenn ?

[Milosuperspesh]

O.O You let Malik die ???
Wait, is this why there was a sneaking mission with Glenn ?

i saved her in my first run lol tooka few tries like...

but i gotta be honest i felt really shitty letting her die, i was her flyboi...

glenn and his need for 'weapons' hehe

[Master of Aeons]

There is a special hell for people who let Malik die and don't feed Clem.

[CapnJay]

the hell is malik?

[indirect]

I love TWD. It's a great story telling game.

I am pretty upset at the wait time between episodes however. I don't mind them perfecting an episode - but I'd rather have them stuck to their original plan.

the hell is malik?

Pilot from DEHR...

[Dramen]

It's actually a refreshing change of pace for me, to play a decent episodic adventure game. I grew up playing story driven games, before the arrival of first person shooters and their like. So, in that regard, I definitely enjoy the little bit of the game I've been able to play.

The bugs though, have pretty much made the game unplayable for me at this point. Episode 1 was spot on, worked flawlessly, and I enjoyed it. Then came Episode 2....the bugs introduced there, no saved game, black screen, etc. have made me rethink my stance/opinion of Tell Tale. I can live and work around bugs, the lack of any type of achnowledgement or notice in regards to the bugs or possible fixes however , is beginning to leave a bad taste in my mouth.

Will I buy another game from them.......maybe but, I'm leaning towards it being doubtful.

[JordyLicht]

I still love Telltale Games. The way they bring back adventure games is just awesome and something I'd been wishing for, for quite some time. I've bought a lot of games of Telltale Games by now and I'll be a happy customer for quite some time.
As a Mac user I'm pretty much in the minority on this forum, but every game up until The Walking Dead has run perfectly and smoothly on my Macbook Pro. Not that long ago, gaming on a Mac seemed like a ridiculous idea and there were just a few games out there for Mac. Mostly strategic games, which I absolutely loathe, so that was a no-go. Ever since Steam, Feral Interactive and Telltale Games, Mac games have become more and more available. Ofcourse the new Intel processors need some mentioning as well...
I said up until The Walking Dead, but the game itself (episode 1 and 2) ran smoothly and perfectly once again. The download issue was / is the biggest problem, for me anyway. Once I was able to download episode 2, it was smooth sailing from there on. The savegames connected the two episode perfectly, no graphical glitches, and the framerate stayed pretty steady, even on my crappy internal mobile videocard.
Yes, I was annoyed at Telltale Games for the huge downloading issue and I really hope it won't happen again for episode 3, but I still believe they're not amused with these errors either and just as frustrated as their fans and customers.
I see a couple of posts here and there saying that Telltale doesn't care about their customers at all, but I think this is not the case at all. I'm guessing they took a huge risk when they started the company, not knowing if the point-and-click 'fad' would still work. Thanks to the fans, they are able to continue to exist. I don't know the numbers, but I'm guessing online sales are at least 95% of their income and only 5% from retailers.

So yeah, what I'm trying to say is, I'm still a fan :)

[Heartburnkid]

My opinion soured a bit. They still make good games. If they make another of these or Bttf I will buy, just after the seasons are complete or at least on 4/5.

[SwordOfWar]

TellTale does a good job of bringing the Walking Dead to a game format while keeping the core values that make the Walking Dead universe entertaining.

Weather or not you like a TellTale game is strongly dependent on if you like the story/universe that their game is based on.

I never read the comic books, but I have seen the AMC show. This game is hands-down the most immersive experience of The Walking Dead universe so far. I always wondered what it would be like to live in a world liuke the Walking Dead. This is about as close as you can get without actually being there (which would be horrifying and undesirable).

[asdf64]

I dunno why everyone's getting pissy at Telltale now, it's really beyond their control at this point sadly.
I'm just glad they're telling us about it. TWD could very well be my GOTY if all the episodes would be released in this year. Just hoping that Microsoft/Steam/Sony gets off their asses and gives Telltale a date.

[ommmnomnomnom]

I dunno why everyone's getting pissy at Telltale now, it's really beyond their control at this point sadly.
I'm just glad they're telling us about it. TWD could very well be my GOTY if all the episodes would be released in this year. Just hoping that Microsoft/Steam/Sony gets off their asses and gives Telltale a date.

It's been going longer than now hahaha

[fiddilydee]

I never read the comic books, but I have seen the AMC show. This game is hands-down the most immersive experience of The Walking Dead universe so far.

You should probably read the books, because this game is definately not the most immersive experience of The Walking Dead universe so far, not by a long shot.

[strela]

I dunno why everyone's getting pissy at Telltale now, it's really beyond their control at this point sadly.


Nothing better to do most likely, its quite sad...

[fiddilydee]

I dunno why everyone's getting pissy at Telltale now, it's really beyond their control at this point sadly.

Because for the second time in a row they have projected a release, failed to meet it, and refuse to explain. If you're not pissy after that you're an idiot.

Finish a game before you sell it.

[Milosuperspesh]

Because for the second time in a row they have projected a release, failed to meet it, and refuse to explain. If you're not pissy after that you're an idiot.

Finish a game before you sell it.

hmm

episodic gaming ? ttg business model for 6 years ??

When did they project a release for ep3 ? NEVER.. they only pointed out it would be ready in 6 weeks. but did they say we get it/released in 6 weeks NO..

[Cyreen]

I'm sure I've said this before elsewhere, but I'll say it again. Episode games mean that purchasing prior to completion finances a better game as it's made, with added possibly of tweaking the story depending on player reaction.

[godzilla999666]

hmm

episodic gaming ? ttg business model for 6 years ??

When did they project a release for ep3 ? NEVER.. they only pointed out it would be ready in 6 weeks. but did they say we get it/released in 6 weeks NO..

Since you seem like a dedicated fan of theirs, and this is ny first (proabaly last) telltale product, are they always this bad about communicating withe the customers? Do they usually promoted a monthly release only to change it to periodic after everyone has bought the first episode? If this is thier standard practice, I would like to know, cause that would influence my decision to buy season 2. If this is not thier standard practice, then people have a vaulable complaint.

[Milosuperspesh]

ttg where worse before but i only played bttf before twd.

thing is i knew what i was buying; an episodic game which was being built each 'month' for release.

there were delays in between with one or two eps on time, but people still haven't learned from that.. yes bttf had a 2 month gap after ep1 people went apeshit... despite it being posted and mentioned on the sales page/faq/forum..

ttg must have a rule book on what they can and can't say but when the episode is ready ttg make sure ppl can see it.

[Gman5852]

Since you seem like a dedicated fan of theirs, and this is ny first (proabaly last) telltale product, are they always this bad about communicating withe the customers? Do they usually promoted a monthly release only to change it to periodic after everyone has bought the first episode? If this is thier standard practice, I would like to know, cause that would influence my decision to buy season 2. If this is not thier standard practice, then people have a vaulable complaint.

No, Telltale almost always keep a monthly release. It hasn't been a perfect run, but Walking Dead is certainly been their worst when it comes to releasing episodically.

There have been a few exceptions, BTTF was one, but they stated during preorders that there would be a 2 month gap between episode 1 and 2(I think the day of preorders actually), I think Monkey Island had an episode a week off on monthly, and I never even paid attention to Wallace and Gromit if that screwed up. For the most part, all Telltale games that I bought episodically have been done on time.

If I were to guess, they probably were WAY too overconfident with their abilities when it comes to making choices, none of their games have ever allowed that.

[godzilla999666]

Thanks for the honest answer. It confirms that this a new problem they are having with these game.

[Milosuperspesh]

jurassic park ?

[Master of Aeons]

Jurassic Park they delayed until they just released it all at once. It lost an episode in the process, but plays fine. People just don't like the format.

[jayp1980]

Being a Sam and Max fan, I've bought many games from Telltale and look forward to more. For those who don't like episodes, buy when the game is complete, who says you have to be first in line, first done?

This is ridiculous? i would not mind the episode format if they were actually on time. Its my first TT game, I bought it under the assumption it was a monthly thing, and only been let down so far. I did not buy it to be first in line or first down. As I am sure many other users are the same way.

[Cyreen]

Its a game.

If you're not having fun, don't play.

Quit whining. It will be ready when it's ready and the relentless bitching won't get it here any faster.

[Trilobyte]

To answer the question this thread poses, here's my opinion about TellTale at this point:

Until a few weeks ago I'd never heard of them and never played any of their games. I love The Walking Dead and ran across this game on a YouTube walkthrough series and it just looked awesome as hell so I bought it on steam. Then I came here after I ran out of game to geek out on the forums while I wait for e3 to come out. I still haven't played any other TellTale games, but this one is frickin' awesome!

I've been playing video games since I was 6 years old (in 1985) and I've played thousands. I love games of all types (except FPS--I played the first Wolfenstein, the first 3 Dooms, [edit: oh, and Quake too],Turok for 64, and that was it. The FPS style of gaming is just not for me.), but my favorites are story-based and/or strategy based. This game is such a perfect example of the 'interactive movie' type of game I've been waiting to play since I was a little kid. The world feels real, the characters feel real, the story and plot feel real, the drama is real; I get tense, I get nervous, I get flustered making decisions on the fly, I get scared, I get angry, I get sad...this is what it's all about! When's the last time I had so many emotions being triggered by a game? Final Fantasy X, that's when.

So I'd say that after 27 years of gaming, being in the top 3 games that have ever moved me emotionally, gotten me addicted to STORY and CHARACTER instead of mere gameplay, collecting, levelling up, grinding, etc. and just plain old put a big smile on my face--TellTale is rockin' my shit.

Sure, they promised an incredibly optimistic timeline for releases that frankly no one could deliver on, but they also released a video game that is SO FREAKING GOOD that I don't care. Time ceases to exist for me.

So that's it: TellTale broke my relationship with space/time their game is so good. I'm not into fanboy culture, but when I love something, I ain't shy about saying so and vice-versa.

[Master of Aeons]

Final Fantasy X, that's when.


Play Silent Hill 2.

[Xirsche]

This is ridiculous? i would not mind the episode format if they were actually on time. Its my first TT game, I bought it under the assumption it was a monthly thing, and only been let down so far. I did not buy it to be first in line or first down. As I am sure many other users are the same way.

Calm down, d00d. It isn't as if they're just going to up an cancel your delivery of the game. So there's unplanned delays in the release schedule, big deal. It happens ALL the time. The Walking Dead is my first TTG game as well, but I'm perfectly fine with them having to work out kinks in the schedule. It gives them time to put any unfinished touches on the game as well as fix any bugs. Do you seriously want repeats of the first two episodes, or a better episode this time around and the times after? I guess it's a matter of being open-minded and forgiving or not.

Play Silent Hill 2.

Or Silent Hill 3. Or 4. Or hell, the entire series! I find Shattered Memories amazing.

[ommmnomnomnom]

Its a game.

If you're not having fun, don't play.

Quit whining. It will be ready when it's ready and the relentless bitching won't get it here any faster.

stop enticing hate. complaining about whining is a bit hypocritical, just ignore.

[Cyreen]

Really?

I was responding to a specific poster who quoted my prior post.

[jaybreezy]

Really?

I was responding to a specific poster who quoted my prior post.

Lol.. Doesnt matter. You hate enticer you!!! *sarcasm*

[Cyreen]

Lol.. Doesnt matter. You hate enticer you!!! *sarcasm*

Ah hell, in that case I better go earn the title. Give me a minute, I have go open at least 10 pointless threads of mind numbing ranting. :p

[godzilla999666]

Calm down, d00d. It isn't as if they're just going to up an cancel your delivery of the game. So there's unplanned delays in the release schedule, big deal. It happens ALL the time. The Walking Dead is my first TTG game as well, but I'm perfectly fine with them having to work out kinks in the schedule. It gives them time to put any unfinished touches on the game as well as fix any bugs. Do you seriously want repeats of the first two episodes, or a better episode this time around and the times after? I guess it's a matter of being open-minded and forgiving or not.

To all the poeple like this person that says give them time, so they can fix bugs, i have to call bs. After the extra time, the episodes are still buggy, so it's not like if we wait another week, the episode will be bug free. No matter how long we wait, the product will have bugs. The company in my opinion isn't delaying to fix bugs like some people like to think. That excuse is a lot of horse pucky

[Milosuperspesh]

well god zilla

no game is ever bug free especially on pc cos of the millions of specs available, and the ps3/xbox have to pass some testing before they allow a release so if these bugs where present those episodes would not be out..

depending on how people treat there pc's /consoles using hdd or memory cards, too many installed games with lots of saves data gets corrupted..

which is something you can only test so far with..

[Epicgamer12]

My opinion of Telltale games is that they need to release things when they say they are going to because you lose fans and money the way they are doing things now. I wish I worked for them, I bet I could single-handedly get their asses where they need to be!

[jaybreezy]

I wish I worked for them, I bet I could single-handedly get their asses where they need to be!

http://i.qkme.me/35hqq8.jpg

;)

[Xirsche]

To all the poeple like this person that says give them time, so they can fix bugs, i have to call bs. After the extra time, the episodes are still buggy, so it's not like if we wait another week, the episode will be bug free. No matter how long we wait, the product will have bugs. The company in my opinion isn't delaying to fix bugs like some people like to think. That excuse is a lot of horse pucky

Not saying the game will be bug-free completely, but most of the most game-breaking and annoying ones would be weeded out due to the time. And yes, that is your opinion. By the way, don't address me as "this person", I have a name. 'Kay, thanks.

[Master of Aeons]

"We only have two scenes completed!"
"Just get it released! That new guy's crazy!"

[ozzmann]

My opinion? Ask me again next week.:D

[Vainamoinen]

Good thing to say on Monday. Week's still long! :cool:

[ommmnomnomnom]

Good thing to say on Monday. Week's still long! :cool:

Tuesday to twist the knife...hehehe

[Milosuperspesh]

My opinion of Telltale games is that they need to release things when they say they are going to because you lose fans and money the way they are doing things now. I wish I worked for them, I bet I could single-handedly get their asses where they need to be!

their 'asses' are already on the seats in the office making the game

and as for release date have they actually missed a confirmed date ? NO

dumbass...

[ommmnomnomnom]

Well done Telltale.




I like the game.




Keep it up.

[Milosuperspesh]

lol

[Hazl]

their 'asses' are already on the seats in the office making the game

and as for release date have they actually missed a confirmed date ? NO

dumbass...

Actually yes they have, they missed around 5.

Even dumber, dumbass...

[jaybreezy]

Actually yes they have, they missed around 5.

Even dumber, dumbass...

Nope. Sorry. Wrong, wrong, wrong. They have missed 0 confirmed release dates.

[Hazl]

Nope. Sorry. Wrong, wrong, wrong. They have missed 0 confirmed release dates.

No, they missed around 5.

[jaybreezy]

It's slow in here today.

[Milosuperspesh]

yeah it is a bit jay

hazl where are you getting your facts from ?

cos as far as bttf and twd are concerned any confirmed release date that was officialy announced has been met.

but are you thinking of the twd wiki page?

[Hazl]

hazl where are you getting your facts from ?



From Telltale.

[Red Panda]

hazl where are you getting your facts from ?From Telltale. lol terse

[jaybreezy]

yeah it is a bit jay

hazl where are you getting your facts from ?

cos as far as bttf and twd are concerned any confirmed release date that was officialy announced has been met.

but are you thinking of the twd wiki page?

Pretty sure he/she means the "monthly release" that TT didn't meet. Even though it wasn't a confirmed release date.

[Milosuperspesh]

well untill hazl finds the exact post we can only speculate..

also that whole 5 episodes released monthly comment was 'planned' not a guarantee or confirmed.

[Hazl]

well untill hazl finds the exact post we can only speculate..

also that whole 5 episodes released monthly comment was 'planned' not a guarantee or confirmed.

Yes, they were, when you loaded up the game, it said monthly updates, that is a confirmed date.

[jaybreezy]

Yes, they were, when you loaded up the game, it said monthly updates, that is a confirmed date.

Nope.. It's not.

[Abel]

Well done Telltale.




I like the game.




Keep it up.this

Love the game and really don't care which week it comes out.

[Hazl]

Nope.. It's not.

Yes, it is.

[Milosuperspesh]

ok hazl

A confirmed date would be a time/day/month/year and a post on a forum stating it.

Not an faq post made under an 'educated' guess when ep1 was still being made/tested.

[WadeTheButcher]

My opinion... Since they've reworded or removed their orginal expectations I don't have any trust in what they say. They began a project and made statements to entice gamers, but they lacked either the manpower or didn't think everything through. Now they look like inept liars.

Had they finished the first few episodes then began releasing them "monthly" while working on the last 2 or final episode they would have gained many happy followers. I'm sure (at least hope) that they've learned their limitations and work to improve themselves.

I'm angry with them, but they already have my money so what... Despite my disappointment, I'd certainly purchase a season 2 insofar they stood by their word. I love the game so far, if I didn't, I wouldn't check for updates every day.

[Hazl]

ok hazl

A confirmed date would be a time/day/month/year and a post on a forum stating it.

Not an faq post made under an 'educated' guess when ep1 was still being made/tested.

No, a confirmed date is when you buy a product and it clearly tells you that it will have monthly updates.

[WadeTheButcher]

Nope. Sorry. Wrong, wrong, wrong. They have missed 0 confirmed release dates.

This game was advertised with a "monthly" episode release, they've since reworded and or removed anything with "monthly" written in it. This was how it was worded in the PSN description, so TT is months behind their orginal expectations; which means they missed all of their previously planned "monthly" releases.

The battle of semantics is retarded..

[BigDerp]

Walking Dead is great so far, but I'll just say that I think their insistence on every single one of their games being episodic is baffling, when it causes so much frustration and room for error.

Is it just unfathomable to, oh I don't know, make a full game and release it all at once, instead of stretching it out over six months?

I guess I just don't get it.

[Milosuperspesh]

which means they missed all of their previously planned "monthly" releases.

The battle of semantics is retarded..

you say all where missed..again missing the point there was no concrete date set. planning is a state of decision making, setting up the rules to find an answer, it is the path to something therefore open to change, confirmation is the end an absolute.

[Hazl]

you say all where missed..again missing the point there was no concrete date set. planning is a state of decision making, setting up the rules to find an answer, it is the path to something therefore open to change, confirmation is the end an absolute.

There was a date set, 30 days after Ep 1 came out, Ep 2 should have come, that is that the game said when i bought it, not the forum or a faq or whatever, it said so in the game.

Ofc they change that now, but that because they are full of s...

[Milosuperspesh]

There was a date set, 30 days after Ep 1 came out, Ep 2 should have come, that is that the game said when i bought it, not the forum or a faq or whatever, it said so in the game.

Ofc they change that now, but that because they are full of s...


if you mean a sales page ? which version/format ?

as far as i know the 'may' date was probably pure speculation to improve the chance of a sale..

and i bought the season pass for pc and it merely stated ep1 out in late april.till they 'confirmed'.....everything else was coming soon..

[skepticalguy90]

There was a date set, 30 days after Ep 1 came out, Ep 2 should have come, that is that the game said when i bought it, not the forum or a faq or whatever, it said so in the game.

Ofc they change that now, but that because they are full of s...

Oh quit complaining... It gets old after a while. It's one thing if people have something constructive to say, but just complaining that they didn't release on a monthly basis is just stupid. Did you honestly expect them to put out a quality game and release on a monthly basis? Are you genuinely telling me that you'd rather have a crappy product in 1 month than a great product in 2? If not, then just shut up about it.

[godzilla999666]

Yes, i expected them to put out a quality game in one month episodes. This is my first time with telltale games, so i believed what they were advertising and selling. Do you think i shouldn't of believed them?

And in my opinion, they do episodes cause they can't afford the cost of staff to produce a full game all in one go, they must get people paying ahead or along the way to afford staff and finish the game. Just my opinion, based on what I have seen of the company and thier work so far.

[skepticalguy90]

Yes, i expected them to put out a quality game in one month episodes. This is my first time with telltale games, so i believed what they were advertising and selling. Do you think i shouldn't of believed them?

And in my opinion, they do episodes cause they can't afford the cost of staff to produce a full game all in one go, they must get people paying ahead or along the way to afford staff and finish the game. Just my opinion, based on what I have seen of the company and thier work so far.

It seems like maybe you should have done some research before just jumping in.

[Hazl]

Oh quit complaining... It gets old after a while. It's one thing if people have something constructive to say, but just complaining that they didn't release on a monthly basis is just stupid. Did you honestly expect them to put out a quality game and release on a monthly basis? Are you genuinely telling me that you'd rather have a crappy product in 1 month than a great product in 2? If not, then just shut up about it.

Quit defending TT it gets old.

And yes, i did expect that, becasue that is what they told me they would, then they went back on that, after they had my money.

[Hazl]

It seems like maybe you should have done some research before just jumping in.

When the "box" thells you monthly updates, then that is all the research you need to do.