Do you think Kenny and Lee will live.. or die? [Archive]

VladNet

07/15/2012, 12:18 pm

I don't think about Kenny, he could technically be a secondary protagonist... The only thing I have against their family is Duck.

Lee is the main protagonist, so I dont think he will die, and Lee is like the perfect protagonist, a murderer who is basically taken a little girl because of her parents apparent death.

So ya, do you think they will make it to the end of Episode 5 or on a darker note, will them, along with anyone still in the group die, then the game ends?

franapbsilva

07/15/2012, 12:25 pm

I think they will both live. Maybe Kenny dies in the second season.

Galdis

07/15/2012, 12:40 pm

It depends how "in the spirit" of Walking Dead the writers for the game feel. The only character in the Walking Dead universe with any sort of plot armor is Rick Grimes, which isn't guaranteed when his arc is finished. Eventually, everyone will turn into a zombie since death is inevitable.

I think it's unlikely Lee Everett will survive because of how unforgiving TWD usually is and because it ties up loose ends.

Zeruis

07/16/2012, 06:45 am

Both of them will eventually die. Kenny might die this season while Lee dies in the second.

kirby18

07/16/2012, 06:52 am

I think Kenny will die late this season, maybe episode 5. Lee and Clem arent going to die. I just would lost respect for the game if that happened, even if telltale set it up to be a great plot twist or good ending somehow.

Jonttu1

07/16/2012, 06:56 am

Why are you talking about a second season when the first ones not even close to done?!? Stop being silly. And on the subject I don't know. I hope lee won't die, but he might have to kill Kenny when he tries to feed Clem to the walkers to save Katjaa or something like that.

jaybreezy

07/16/2012, 07:01 am

Jonttu1

07/16/2012, 07:08 am

Probably because TT announced that they would be doing another season.

Well still, completely silly since you have no idea how episode one is going to end and in what kind of state Lee and his group are going to be at the end of it all. All you can do on season two is baseless speculation and that's the worst kind of speculation.

CapnJay

07/16/2012, 07:38 am

We might not get top see kenny the players might see Kenny take off on his boat and assume he got to safety when a hurricane actually smashed it a week later

The_Cheshire_Cat

07/16/2012, 08:02 am

I'm down for a Kenny death.

And then add another woman to the group. Lee can have a little harem going.

coryay113

07/16/2012, 08:21 am

I think lee will live and end up in the hospital that rick wakes up in. Never meet rick but coming oh so close.

Milosuperspesh

07/16/2012, 11:45 am

i say they kill off kenny in ep5 but in his death gargles tells lee about the boat being bullshit..

i say he dies either way a heroic end if you are 'loyal' to kenny or if he hates lee, he gets bit and begs you to end it... lilly obliges his wish then leaves the group..

TheWaltzingBread

07/16/2012, 02:16 pm

Kenny COULD be bacon in one of the upcoming episodes

Avid comic readers will know no main character is safe, especially one of the more recent deaths:

Glen.

So everyone is to be considered bacon until proven sufficiently likeable (I E clem)

thestalkinghead

07/16/2012, 02:25 pm

i would be reasonably happy if i save a family (kenny,Katjaa and duck) and Clementine, while they sail off into the sunset, even if i am left on shore slowly turning into a zombie

Master of Aeons

07/16/2012, 02:28 pm

i would be reasonably happy if i save a family (kenny,Katjaa and duck) and Clementine, while they sail off into the sunset, even if i am left on shore slowly turning into a zombie

I'm pretty sure the family isn't getting on that boat intact. Happiest ending I think is realistic is Clem getting out alive in 40% of the endings.

thestalkinghead

07/16/2012, 02:42 pm

I'm pretty sure the family isn't getting on that boat intact. Happiest ending I think is realistic is Clem getting out alive in 40% of the endings.

yeah, im not gonna bet money on my hopes, but i like kenny and i think that is his ultimate plan, so it's mine as well, also living in a boat is one of my personal zombie apocalypse plans

Sisterofshane

07/16/2012, 03:10 pm

Lee has to make it at LEAST to the end of this season. The whole game is built around his character as the playable protagonist.

Everyone else is fair game. I think that Kenny will be around a lot longer than most people think.

Death689God

07/16/2012, 03:36 pm

I hope Kenny dies, but considering how "Family First" he is... it might only happen if you aren't bros with him. I expect Lee to die, and if you're good with Kenny he dies trying to save you. Where as, if you weren't on good terms with him he'll flee to live a few more days. Clementine's fate will depend on how you raise her. (Seems logical, considering how much focus the Lee/Clem relationship has.)
Who knows about the rest though, I can't really tell. Carly/Doug will probably die, the new girl that'll be coming in episode 3... IDK yet, will have to wait for my verdict on what will happen to her. Katjaa and/or Duck MIGHT live if Kenny lives, I suspect to have to make a Choice between the two of them BEFORE episode 5. (But that, duck vs katjaa choice, I'll admit, is probably wishful thinking on my part.) Ben, well IDK yet but he probably won't make it... He'll probably die in episode 4, or have a chance to die.

Lilly is really the only Character with a Guaranteed free pass. This IS the Comic book Universe, and she DOES have to be alive to Kill Lori

EDIT:
To be honest, I think all of these "pointless choices that don't really matter" we're making now will be what decides who lives and who dies in Episode 5.

Demopan

07/16/2012, 03:57 pm

No one is safe from death, even Glenn got the axe(or bat) in the comic, and he's everyone's favorite.

Death689God

07/16/2012, 04:18 pm

No one is safe from death, even Glenn got the axe(or bat) in the comic, and he's everyone's favorite.

Spoiler Tag bro... SPOILER inside [] to start /SPOILER inside [] to end.

JPG619

07/16/2012, 05:01 pm

I think they might both live, they might have you choose between saving Kenny or Doug/Carley that what might happen in episode 5

CapnJay

07/16/2012, 05:12 pm

I think lee will live and end up in the hospital that rick wakes up in. Never meet rick but coming oh so close.

so thats who was taking care of rick while he was in his coma

Merc

07/16/2012, 06:11 pm

I think they might both live, they might have you choose between saving Kenny or Doug/Carley that what might happen in episode 5

Welcome to my nightmare.

Kenny is a bro. Lee and Doug have Guy Love. I honestly don't know what I would pick. I seriously think I would quit the game for a bit. Same as if in episode 5, if I have to pick between Clem and the group.

CapnJay

07/16/2012, 06:13 pm

Kenny thinks Clementine is infected and plans on killing her then Duck shoots Kenny to Protect Clementine.

Would that be Kirkman Level tragedy?

WingSP117

07/16/2012, 06:32 pm

I think Kenny will be Lee's Glenn.

;-;

Merc

07/16/2012, 07:28 pm

I think Kenny will be Lee's Glenn.

;-;

I'd say Go Softly into the Night, sweet Prince, but I don't think that applies for Glenn. :(

Goldrock

07/16/2012, 07:38 pm

considering how the game caters to choices i think its all will depend on what the players decisions are throughout the course of the series on who lives and who dies.

CapnJay

07/16/2012, 07:41 pm

what if the game has a "golden ending" for following only certain decision paths.

Death689God

07/16/2012, 08:35 pm

what if the game has a "golden ending" for following only certain decision paths.

The Golden Ending unlocks achievement Fools Gold. It can only be acquired by choosing along a line of specific dialogue choices, actions, and item obtaining. (Ex: Choose to say the correct things to the correct people, save the right people, and pick up the candy bars/etc in the right order.) At the end, all of the characters in your group you thought died show up on Kenny's boat, which transforms into a massive cruiser with enough supplies to last you 200 years. It even has a Cake but it's all a lie, as you cut a few years ahead, when your group is just off shore of Japan, a load roar is heard and the entire boat, along with its crew, is obliterated in the cross fire of a Godzilla vs Ghidorah fight.

CapnJay

07/16/2012, 08:41 pm

The Golden Ending unlocks achievement Fools Gold. It can only be acquired by choosing along a line of specific dialogue choices, actions, and item obtaining. (Ex: Choose to say the correct things to the correct people, save the right people, and pick up the candy bars/etc in the right order.) At the end, all of the characters in your group you thought died show up on Kenny's boat, which transforms into a massive cruiser with enough supplies to last you 200 years. It even has a Cake but it's all a lie, as you cut a few years ahead, when your group is just off shore of Japan, a load roar is heard and the entire boat, along with its crew, is obliterated in the cross fire of a Godzilla vs Ghidorah fight.

and lee and clems last words are "TOTALLY WORTH IT"

Heh makes me think of Twelve Thirteens Willy Wonka alternate ending

Death689God

07/16/2012, 08:43 pm

and lee and clems last words are "TOTALLY WORTH IT"

Heh makes me think of Twelve Thirteens Willy Wonka alternate ending

Hey, in the Zombie Apocalypse there are worse ways to go I suppose. :cool:

CapnJay

07/16/2012, 08:46 pm

What really happens in the golden ending. Lee is abandoned with Clem and Carley. Kenny and his family and Ben are on the boat. Lee Clem and Carley think it's the end as Walkers surrounded them then they hear
WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH
A Blue Police Booth appears and a strange man opens the door and says hurry up and get inside. Then the three rush inside and the door closes and the Phone booth vanishes with the Strange man saying "Next Stop, Everywhere."

Death689God

07/16/2012, 09:00 pm

CapnJay

07/16/2012, 09:08 pm

Then the TARDIS gets eaten by Godzilla.

which is actually a recreation of Godzilla created by the Daleks.

Death689God

07/16/2012, 09:33 pm

which is actually a recreation of Godzilla created by the Daleks.

The bad guys win, also that's not Godzilla it's Mecha Godzilla. Godzilla comes later to save the day and make a new, titan sized TARDIS, which he uses to fulfill the Doctors role in the universe after his untimely Death Death, in which the Doctor's killed of for real.

CapnJay

07/16/2012, 09:40 pm

The bad guys win, also that's not Godzilla it's Mecha Godzilla. Godzilla comes later to save the day and make a new, titan sized TARDIS, which he uses to fulfill the Doctors role in the universe after his untimely Death Death, in which the Doctor's killed of for real.

But that can't happen until the question is answered on the fields of Trenzalore at the fall of the eleventh. Doctor Who? /

Death689God

07/16/2012, 09:56 pm

But that can't happen until the question is answered on the fields of Trenzalore at the fall of the eleventh. Doctor Who? /

His name is "Dave Octavius Cthulhu Tarquin Ozora Rogers Wright Hauke Oliver" and "the fields of Trenzalore" is actually code for "the pacific ocean, somewhere near the coast of Japan". The Doctor says his name to Lee, who when the Doctor refuses to tell his actual name, then gives him Hershels Speel on names. Also, he figures "TARDIS is about to be eaten, might as well, besides we're not in the Fields of Trenzalore." oh, the irony.

Milosuperspesh

07/17/2012, 05:21 am

are you two high ?

then the master walks up and says 'sup peeps'

Marv87

07/17/2012, 05:36 am

I actually like Kenny, I wish there was more I could do to help him understand that I'm not always against him. Would be helpful if he was a bit more level headed and understood that not everyone put the interests of his family above those the entire group. (Would equally be helpful for Lilley and some others to understand that Kenny's just trying to do what he thinks is best).

CapnJay

07/17/2012, 05:51 am

I think everyone understands Kenny is trying to do what he thinks is best. they just disagree with his decisions and lines of reasoning.

Dildor

07/17/2012, 08:42 am

No one is safe from death, even Glenn got the axe(or bat) in the comic, and he's everyone's favorite.

Thanks for that.............

On to my opinion now that I've enjoyed Demopan's spoilers. I think there's a good chance of having to choose between CarleyDoug or Katjaa and or duck. It would be a tough choice to keep Kenny's loyalty, or save your friend. I definitly think they are going to keep Kenny in the game until the very end, and then either let him live or even make Lee kill him off for whatever reason.

I think Lee will probably survive to go on to the next season with Clem. A lot of you seem to think Clem is going to die if you don't raise her to be a survivalist, but I think we will see our interactions with her play out in different, less narrative altering ways. If TTG is up to that, or just planning on starting with completely new characters next season I welcome either way!

Death689God

07/17/2012, 07:51 pm

Thanks for that.............

On to my opinion now that I've enjoyed Demopan's spoilers. I think there's a good chance of having to choose between CarleyDoug or Katjaa and or duck. It would be a tough choice to keep Kenny's loyalty, or save your friend. I definitly think they are going to keep Kenny in the game until the very end, and then either let him live or even make Lee kill him off for whatever reason.

I think Lee will probably survive to go on to the next season with Clem. A lot of you seem to think Clem is going to die if you don't raise her to be a survivalist, but I think we will see our interactions with her play out in different, less narrative altering ways. If TTG is up to that, or just planning on starting with completely new characters next season I welcome either way!

They said they'd make a second season, but I don't think they said anything about it concerning the same people.

Dildor

07/18/2012, 12:49 am

Yeah I know! But tell tale tends to like their characters a lot, so I figured it's not out of the question for Lee to be the lead for next season. That said, it's the walking dead so anything goes.

CapnJay

07/18/2012, 12:55 am

You Start Season two and an creepy old man asks Are you a Boy or a Girl?

Boys play as Doug

Girls play as Carley

Death689God

07/18/2012, 03:43 am

You Start Season two and an creepy old man asks Are you a Boy or a Girl?

Boys play as Doug

Girls play as Carley

If you call Liam Neeson a "creepy old man" ONE MORE TIME! James was more of a father to me than my REAL FATHER! *Runs away Crying*

Master of Aeons

07/18/2012, 10:26 am

I think Kenny will die at some point in the series. Even though he has been a big part of the story so far, I still see him as a "flat" character who is expendable.:D

Not before he loses Duck though.

mz3

07/24/2012, 09:36 am

I think lee will live and Kenny dies in the second season.

The_Cheshire_Cat

07/24/2012, 09:41 am

Kenny needs to die ASAP

And who cares about the second season. Is telltale making it? Cause if they are, who knows when that damn game will come out? They can't even get a episode out when they say they will, cant even run a contest when they say they will, hell they don't even know what characters are gonna be in the game they are making.

Shooot, they need to focus on some work ethic, bloody California hippies.

Phantom Command

07/25/2012, 08:47 am

Lee and Clem are the Rick and Carl of the video game world, so although they may lose body parts I think they will survive, at least up to the last 5 minutes of episode 5 where its anything goes.

SteveTheBox

07/25/2012, 09:29 am

Considering Lilly was in the walking dead comic which is like in the Rick season probably, she won't die, but maybe Kenny will but who knows anything could happen.

Lin001

07/25/2012, 10:22 am

I really think that Lee's going to die in the end of this season. In a ultimate choice like " Save your ass or save Clem". And Save Clem it's probaly going to be cannonic. About Kenny, I don't know... He might die trying to protect his family in a noble act ( And then, the forum will be full of people saying that respects him or something, even after he being an ass with some of 'em).

But, who know? Telltale might surprise everyone.

CapnJay

07/25/2012, 11:05 am

Well if it's true that TTG got Larrys name wrong {Apparently in the book his name is Everett} and they ARE working with Kirkman like they say. then it could be that OUR Lily wont make the same choices that Comic Lily makes in which case.

Nothing is true

Everything is Permitted

Lin001

07/25/2012, 11:43 am

Nothing is true

Everything is Permitted

Oh, that's cool. I think I've already heard that somewhere. Where did you get this from?

skepticalguy90

07/25/2012, 05:56 pm

Oh, that's cool. I think I've already heard that somewhere. Where did you get this from?

Assassin's Creed

Noname215

07/25/2012, 06:11 pm

If anything, they actually should kill Clementine. It would leave psychological trauma on Lee the way it did when Lilly, under command of The Governor, later killed Lori and how it left Rick and Carl.

Rock114

07/25/2012, 06:42 pm

I think Kenny probably will die, and Lee and Clem are good until Episode 5. I think Kenny has a good chance of making it that far, but might get axed in 4, or at least a member (or both) of his family. It'd be interesting to see how he behaves if both Kat and Duck are dead, considering literally everything he has done up to this point has been for them.

CapnJay

07/25/2012, 08:00 pm

Zeruis

07/25/2012, 08:46 pm

But what about players?

Won't somebody please think of the players?

Let's just be thankful that the episodes aren't being written or produced by Kirkman. He'd kill off the main characters in the third or fourth episode.

GetOutNearToTheDock

07/25/2012, 09:11 pm

No way man. I think Kenny,Clem,Lee, Duck, and Katja are going to head down to Fort Lauderdale and cruise away in Kenny's boat through the open sea. The end.

Zeruis

07/27/2012, 02:35 pm

No way man. I think Kenny,Clem,Lee, Duck, and Katja are going to head down to Fort Lauderdale and cruise away in Kenny's boat through the open sea. The end.

What, riding off into the sunset together? While I would wish for nothing less of this to happen, the game will have a dramatic ending.

CapnJay

07/27/2012, 03:06 pm

I think a nice ending is something that looks peaceful and fun and then as the camera pans out their actually surrounded by danger.

Master of Aeons

07/27/2012, 05:25 pm

Too easy. Closest to a happy ending I want is to see Lee and Clem make it to the rumored boat and cast off, only to have Clem reveal she was bitten in the final scramble. In the last moments of her life, you can kill her or chain her to the mast. And as she either falls into the ocean or begins to fight against her leash, the boat sails away for absolutely nowhere.

CapnJay

07/27/2012, 06:08 pm

Leaving Lee Batshit crazy

I like learning to read peoples posts "I want to see" doesn't mean "The ending I want forced on everyone" it means in your opinion. I respect your opinion

Zeruis

07/27/2012, 06:48 pm

I think a nice ending is something that looks peaceful and fun and then as the camera pans out their actually surrounded by danger.

Most of all endings I would want to see, I'd like an ambiguous ending. Something that can be interpreted differently by any player. With that combined with an ending like this, I'd be happy.

thestalkinghead

07/27/2012, 06:57 pm

Most of all endings I would want to see, I'd like an ambiguous ending. Something that can be interpreted differently by any player. With that combined with an ending like this, I'd be happy.

i don't like things to end ambiguously, i dont mind ones that are not very ambiguous like the ending to inception (it's only as ambiguous as reality itself) otherwise i think an ambiguous ending is just a cop-out that robs you of an actual ending

Milosuperspesh

07/28/2012, 05:16 am

i don't like things to end ambiguously, i dont mind ones that are not very ambiguous like the ending to inception (it's only as ambiguous as reality itself) otherwise i think an ambiguous ending is just a cop-out that robs you of an actual ending

you mean inception he was still dreaming ending ?

yeah i hate the dream copout endings.

thestalkinghead

07/28/2012, 05:36 am

you mean inception he was still dreaming ending ?

yeah i hate the dream copout endings.

yeah, i just decide the spinning thing does stop and fall over, else the whole film was just a waste of time.

not that ambiguous it basically just gave you two choices it was either all a dream or it wasn't, if it was more ambiguous i would just think of it as not having an ending and it being incomplete, not artistically ambiguous and thought provoking

CapnJay

07/28/2012, 06:23 am

yeah, i just decide the spinning thing does stop and fall over, else the whole film was just a waste of time.

not that ambiguous it basically just gave you two choices it was either all a dream or it wasn't, if it was more ambiguous i would just think of it as not having an ending and it being incomplete, not artistically ambiguous and thought provoking

The true ending is that he needed to get into your head so he planted the idea of watching a movie about a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream in your dream which you think is reality

Milosuperspesh

07/28/2012, 07:44 am

The true ending is that he needed to get into your head so he planted the idea of watching a movie about a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream in your dream which you think is reality

my mind has sploded...

Zeruis

07/28/2012, 10:55 am

thestalkinghead

07/28/2012, 11:12 am

I would like an ending within season 2, like something that has Clem SAFE, and there are signs that Lee is alive, and signs that he is dead(it's The Walking Dead after all). This is as ambiguous that I'd like.

so basically a good ending, but the zombie apocalypse hasn't ended.

yeah, not really ambiguous but still open for interpretation is fine with me.

Zeruis

07/28/2012, 11:55 am

so basically a good ending, but the zombie apocalypse hasn't ended.

yeah, not really ambiguous but still open for interpretation is fine with me.

Yep. Just small ambiguity is fine with me.

zgamer

07/30/2012, 08:41 am

It depends on how they want to play it out. I have a feeling that if the game's ending is really affected by choice, certain characters surviving or not will be relative. Perhaps Kenny survives but his family doesn't. Perhaps he dies saving his son. I dunno. I guess ideally I would like to see that kind of thing happen.

As for Lee, I REALLY would not want him to die. I am personally kind of tired of the whole "The protagonist has to die" argument. Rick's been alive for this long so I think it would be fine if Lee lived at the end. Again, it should be up to choice.

FictionRaider007

07/30/2012, 11:10 am

It's been confirmed that Kenny will appear in Episode 4. And I don't think HE should die, but one his family certainly should. I find Kenny interesting even if it is annoying that you can't explain the reasoning behind your actions.
So, I believe Kenny will survive episode 3 and maybe make it through to the sequel.
If not I think it'd be fun to see Kenny end up like Shane in the comics - Clementine could shoot him. ;)

I think they'll be a choice at the end of episode five whether or not to let Lee die to save someone like Clementine. If he does die then I think for the sequel (or as they're calling it Season 2) they'll have you playing a brand new charatcer who finds the group and joins right after Lee's death otherwise you keep playing as Lee.

Halfstackcrazy

07/30/2012, 12:10 pm

Kenny is simply trying to protect his family at all costs, and that's the way I've chosen to play Lee in regards to Clem. Ultimately, I think maybe that Kenny will die sooner or later, and I'm currently left unsure of the seriousness of his wound with Chapter 2 of the game. This raises a scenario similar to that of Jim in TWD TV series' season 1.

I'd hate to see Lee and Clem perish in any way, although I know that no one is safe in TWD universe. Maybe a trick ending of Lee and Clem finally appearing to make it to save haven, only to see a camera pan to a waiting walker and the final frame being a freeze/look of horror on our heroes' faces. :eek:

I have to side with those of you who think Kenny will not make it to the final final credits.

The_Cheshire_Cat

07/31/2012, 08:34 am

AceStarr

08/02/2012, 05:39 am

For me a video game is different then tv and comic books. To kill your main hero can mess up the series then you have to find strange ways to bring the character back kinda like GOD OF WAR main character Kratos.

CroatianTWDfan

11/21/2012, 02:08 pm

They both die, very sad and disturbing last episode. I've been crying for last 7 hours, I just hate the telltale and what they did to me. I never wept like that.Never. You will pobably feel the same.And every time I listen 'Take us back' by Alela Diane I start to cry.Just sad and depressing. -___-