Suggestions on how to improve the forums

[ryannumber1gamer]

I made this thread so people can discuss how the fourms can be improved so i'll start off.

I think the classics part of the thread should be back in the main menu of the fourms with all the rest of the forums topics because since they are in the classics hardly anyone ever replys anymore to them.

[Johro]

How did you manage to make the same typo 3 times in a row? That takes skill.
At this point, I'm starting to think that sign-up security should be increased. Reviewing accounts before granting access, or other safeguards. The spamming is getting ridiculous.

[Darth Marsden]

There's a bunch of typos in his post. I think he doesn't even bother to check something once he's typed it.

I'll agree with the security thing. I've seen more than a few bots slip through the net.

Beyond that, nothing really comes to mind. Maybe ask people to stop making new threads for every little thing that pops into their head? I dunno.

[Friar]

It would be nice if the forums didn't go down every day at around 9AM. But I guess that's necessary.

[DAISHI]

It would be nice if the forums didn't go down every day at around 9AM. But I guess that's necessary.

Bloody hell you must be in England.

[Ribs]

It doesn't email me everyone's password when They sign up please fix

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[Giant Tope]

Lets not do user verification. Our mod staff is way too small for that and it would just drive new people away to wait.

What needs to be done is the creation of a code of conduct for mods because it's kind of the wild west and some people get banned for the smallest things while others doing worse stick around forever. It's just very odd. The whole prevalence of post deletion is also very odd.

While I like our mods, theres just a huge air of unprofessionalism and disorganisation about them, akin to the staff at an anime convention. It's kinda annoying at times to witness.

[Chyron8472]

I made this thread so people can discuss how the fourms can be inproved

I think the forums would be greatly improved if people had proper grammar and spelling.

[Darth Marsden]

Bloody hell you must be in England.Hello!

Yeah, it going dark around 9AM our time is a tad frustrating, since it's when I'm usually still around. But then again, if they moved it back an hour, I suppose someone else would just get upset. Damned if they do...

[Haggis]

Change the blue to red, which is not only the official Telltale colour, but also my favourite colour.

(Or is there some psychological reason for not doing this? As in, red makes forum users more aggressive?)

[Giant Tope]

If we wanted the forums to be a calmer place, youd want to make the place seafoam green. Theres a reason why asylums were painted that color, you know.,other than being easy on the eyes of doctors who just got out of surgery and seeimg a ton of blood...

[DAISHI]

Which of my Brit friends are taking me to Gordon Ramsays this summer?

[Darth Marsden]

Which of my Brit friends are taking me to Gordon Ramsays this summer?I would, but the bank won't let me take out a loan big enough.

[puzzlebox]

Which of my Brit friends are taking me to Gordon Ramsays this summer?

I would, but the bank won't let me take out a loan big enough.

Ramsay has restaurants in NYC and Los Angeles as well. If you'd been able to get to Maze (NYC) during restaurant week just gone, you could've had a 3-course dinner for $35. Although if you're anything like me, you'll spend as much on drinks as you do on dinner. :p

[DAISHI]

Ramsays actually offers low priced fare in addition to its standard, glam menu.

[Darth Marsden]

*sigh*

DAMMIT GUYS STOP RUINING THE JOKE

[corruptbiggins]

Someone should nuke the Walking Dead section. **shudder**

I shouldn't keep going in there but it's like going past the scene of an accident, you can't help but look and look I do. Then I get annoyed and want to punch through my monitor to get at the crazy stupid people. Sick of having to add people to my ignore list...

[ryannumber1gamer]

No most of the Walking Dead discussions are as follows:

''It's been one day over a month wheres my episode 3?!!?!?''
''Look just give them a bit more time and do something else''
''NO! I WANT MY EPISODE 3!!!!''
''You need to give them time''
''I'm going to conplain about this on their fourms!!!'
''(Faceplaim)''

In over words people. Shut up about it now coming a month later. You do know their are games that other fourms members are waiting for like Sly Cooper Thieves In Time & Luigi's Mansion 2 which has been delayed for about 4 or 5 months now till early 2013.

[Alcoremortis]

Have a section of the forum rules clearly state how much $80 is worth. Just for those of us who might not know that or need assistance figuring it out.

[Vainamoinen]

What needs to be done is the creation of a code of conduct for mods because it's kind of the wild west and some people get banned for the smallest things while others doing worse stick around forever. It's just very odd. The whole prevalence of post deletion is also very odd.

While I like our mods, theres just a huge air of unprofessionalism and disorganisation about them, akin to the staff at an anime convention. It's kinda annoying at times to witness.

The impression is fair to share, but I will add that you do not have enough insight to assess the situation completely. You only see when people get banned, but the why necessarily remains a guess for you, one that will go amiss half of the time. You have to make up whether a moderator action was justified by estimating how quick a situation was resolved or by how much of the situation you actually witnessed, and in a whole lot of cases, what the situation actually was. You might have seen one small trigger out of a total of eight and think you've got the whole picture.

As for moderator rules, they exist. Some few behind the scenes, most of them very much out in the open (a "forum rule violation" demands moderator action).

Concerning unprofessionalism, I have been around long enough now to witness how most moderators were nominated, and I could not be more happy with the result. The wild west appeal of the present bunch might be visible, but it's due to trying times that guns are raised. Each of the Magnificent Seven (all right, I didn't count) is a real character with her/his own strong views, areas of expertise and favored areas of operation, and still we have managed to work together as a team. They're doing professional work as volunteers, each and every one, in an organized manner from all parts of the world, and I will not depart an inch from that assessment.

A moderator who bans, infracts, deletes or edits posts or stomps his foot in a thread questions her/himself. ALWAYS. She or he explicitly announces member and reason for ban or infraction in the mod forum. Other mods and occasionally admins assess and give feedback. And we're certainly not nodding off each other. Conflicts among mods sometimes arise, and I welcome them. The moderator I disagree with most often might be the one I value most.


At this point, I'm starting to think that sign-up security should be increased. Reviewing accounts before granting access, or other safeguards. The spamming is getting ridiculous.

Suggestions are being made continuously, and I am rather sure that a solution will come. I just don't know WHEN...

Someone should nuke the Walking Dead section. **shudder**

Takes just five minutes... all gone... DON'T TEMPT ME MAN!!!1!oneeleven!!

[divisionten]

Considering 90% of the stuff in TWD is handled by Vain...

And Vain is right. We each have specialties. I rarely ban, and I usually only do so if its a known bot and/or I'm the only one online (time zones, ftw). Mostly, I make FAQs and clean out spam. But when I do have to bring the hammer, I honestly feel guilty. I don't like silencing pople. But I like it when people harass others even less. I grew up with bullies. I know how hard it is to be on the receiving end.

But Vain is right on one account- ban reasons may not happen because of something you saw. Offending content may have come in the form of a harassing PM, and we must respond to those too.

We have a code of conduct, and there is one for the forums too, the one made by David E. It still stands today as it did when he wrote it a few years ago.

[DAISHI]

Can someone tell me what's so wrong with TWD forum?

[ryannumber1gamer]

There's nothing wrong with it really but it can get annoying seeing piles of threads just to see....

WHY IS EP 3 NOW OUT YET TELLTALE GAMES?!? I'M NEVER BUYING FROM YOU AGAIN!

Not everyone is like that but there is loads of threads and posts like that.

[Gman5852]

Can someone tell me what's so wrong with TWD forum?

A lot of complaining really. Telltale didn't realize that the monthly episodic formula they've had for so long doesn't work when the game has branching paths based on previous dialog, and they are taking the flak for that big time!

Doesn't help that Telltale had a bizarre lack of communication to us during this first delay as well.

[ryannumber1gamer]

I will agree that Telltale should have told us episode 2 was delayed but now it's all just stupid complaining.

[Gman5852]

I will agree that Telltale should have told us episode 2 was delayed but now it's all just stupid complaining.

They have the right to be mad, they were told monthly and it isn't monthly. Some of the stuff they say is bad, but they still deserve to be mad and have the right to complain.

Plus their threats don't mean anything. Odds are the forums here are the minority on telltale's customers, so they aren't taking any damage from this in terms of sales.

[ryannumber1gamer]

But Telltale has done this with piles of their games which they said episodes came every month. Bttf has it.

Episode 1:22th of December
Episode 2: 16th of February
Episode 3:29th of March
Episode 4:29th of April
Episode 5:23th of June.

[Gman5852]

The second episode had that planned from the start, and episode 5 was when the series was almost over and it was obvious Telltale knew what they were doing with those games. The new guys for this game just recieved one episode followed by no news whatsoever about episode 2, just that there was a delay. I think they have the right to complain there, not in this level, but a right certainly.

But that is off topic, the one thing I'd love to have for the forums would be to allow images to work in spoiler tags. That way people can just do that and then people that don't care can scroll over it and not have it load for them, while people that do care can click and see it.

[Giant Tope]

But Vain is right on one account- ban reasons may not happen because of something you saw. Offending content may have come in the form of a harassing PM, and we must respond to those too.

What I mean is that there doesn't really seem to be official conduct of business. Decisions always come off as whether or not it felt right to do by the mod at that time rather than actual code of conduct and I feel like this causes a lot of conflict both internally and externally. From my understanding, you folks get a very general guideline of how to run the place, but overall there isn't a whole lot of structure to it.

It's honestly a huge shame that there isn't really a community manager who really cares anymore about the community and I feel like everyone suffers for it.

We have a code of conduct, and there is one for the forums too, the one made by David E. It still stands today as it did when he wrote it a few years ago.

This guideline was written 4 years ago before there were any community mods onboard the the crew. Along with this, the guideline was written to give something of a resemblance of a structure for the place as the forums became flooded with preteens that were excited for the new Strong Bad game. (Note that the forum games section was created around this time period as well.) If you read them over, it's just incredibly generalized common sense. Before the audience change, the Telltale crowd was incredibly tiny and rather mature. They self moderated themselves with the gentle guidance of the friendly staff from time to time.

The forum has changed a lot since even the last edit of this guideline.

I mean, goddamn, when was the last time bullet point #2 of the guidelines actually happened? I still haven't gotten my goddamn contest prize, and second and third place got them a long time ago.

With the moderating crew being entirely volunteer based at this point and with the forum getting much bigger, there needs to be guidelines and general rules of how to go about business. There needs to be rules on what situations constitutes a warning or infraction, how many warnings/infractions constitutes a ban, and how long a ban should be in which situations, ect. This new guideline needs to be stapled up to the top of the board.

I'm not saying you guys don't work hard. I'm not saying you guys are meanie pants and I hate you guys. Furthermore, I'm not saying that I'm some sort of all seeing genie and I will make this forum better if you just follow me.

I'm saying you guys, as dedicated and nice you guys are to the community, need more structure. I think this would help improve the forum and that is why I posted in this thread.

Another note: I personally don't think posts need to be outright deleted unless they contain gore, pornography, unwanted personal information, or legitimate threats because if they get instantly covered up without anybody knowing about it, then the community would have no idea that sort of action was wrong. Even in the cases of the exceptions, I'd imagine it'd be best if they were snipped out by mods with an explanation. However, that's not my call to make.

[WarpSpeed]

There's a rule that you're not allowed to talk about why a member is banned, probably to avoid criticism that whatever behavior really merited a ban. The result can be stifling, though. Perhaps when someone asks why so-and-so was banned, a moderator could respond, saying this person had ignored three warnings, was getting out of control, and needs a couple of weeks to cool off, or whatever. Then, when inevitably someone yells that that's no reason to ban anyone, just don't respond.

[Vainamoinen]

The second episode had that planned from the start...

Don't drag this here please. I've enough of this as it is. :(
Counts as off topic here. ;)

What I mean is that there doesn't really seem to be official conduct of business. Decisions always come off as whether or not it felt right to do by the mod at that time rather than actual code of conduct and I feel like this causes a lot of conflict both internally and externally. From my understanding, you folks get a very general guideline of how to run the place, but overall there isn't a whole lot of structure to it.


You might think more "bureaucracy" in that area would be a good thing. I do not agree. If mods are always invoking some kind of moderator constitution, they're listening less to the community and to other mods.

We can not just count the number of offenses and then yank a community member out. There can not be a code of conduct listing various offenses and their severity. I am convinced that the attempt alone would massively increase arbitrariness in mod decisions and end in less guidance for the volunteers.

Moderators DO decide on a case to case basis. These are individual personal decisions, and I understand that this irks you. In my experience, what results is a pretty lenient moderation, while the team discussion prevents that a mod is going rogue. We're not the police, we're part of the community. When we take measures, we take the personal into account. When a good guy who has been around for years suddenly starts spewing insulting nonsense, we'd like to know the reasons before possibly kicking him out of a community he or she might need as support. Introducing hard and fast "mechanical" rules, we'd eliminate the personal.

There's a rule that you're not allowed to talk about why a member is banned, probably to avoid criticism that whatever behavior really merited a ban. The result can be stifling, though. Perhaps when someone asks why so-and-so was banned, a moderator could respond, saying this person had ignored three warnings, was getting out of control, and needs a couple of weeks to cool off, or whatever. Then, when inevitably someone yells that that's no reason to ban anyone, just don't respond.

First, we would be talking about the banned member behind his back, making him more angry than he probably already is. Sure I could go on the Walking Dead forum posting "that last one was banned for two months because he tried to organize a shitstorm, made ten insulting, duplicate and disruptive threads total (closed or moved, not deleted), ignored clear warnings, then continuously PM'd moderators accusing them of censorship". But first of all the banned member would have no way of defending himself while the questioning community would have more inquiries even a team of 20 moderators could answer immediately. We won't spend 95% of our time here explaining ourselves. As you can see, we do enough of that already, and I haven't seen this in ANY other forum that way.

Occasionally ban reasons have been announced, and I think I was at the forefront of this once. I don't do this at all today. When someone is actually banned, the decision stands. No discussion. Professionalism and continuous justification of one's acts are at cross purposes here.

As soon as TWD Season is over, I hope bans will be of the utmost rarity again anyway - which will probably lead to more explaining again. ;)

Another note: I personally don't think posts need to be outright deleted unless they contain gore, pornography, unwanted personal information, or legitimate threats because if they get instantly covered up without anybody knowing about it, then the community would have no idea that sort of action was wrong. Even in the cases of the exceptions, I'd imagine it'd be best if they were snipped out by mods with an explanation. However, that's not my call to make.

There seems to have been a central traumatic experience with deleted posts in your forum past. I apologize for it. Fact is - posts are VERY rarely deleted. I sometimes did it (WITH announcement) to give a topic a new chance by killing off the completely derailed discussion elements. Only experimented with it when I started out, didn't like the feel. And at present, a lot of the insulting stuff I usually would have deleted or snipped in the TWD area just "remains" with an infraction - as testimony of the particular user and for future reference. The tone in there is rough - users should know.

Snipping means directly cutting areas of meaning out of a user's message, leaving the other users to actively guess the rest of the effectively crippled original message. An added moderator explanation feels a lot like mockery to the user in question, whose message was undoubtedly obscured. To be honest, to me, deletion actually feels less like censorship than snipping. But I'm coming from the journalistic field of professions in RL, where an edited article often feels worse than one simply not published.

[GuruGuru214]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Vainamoinen]

Here's something to improve the site: Only registered members to post on the blog.

The people who obviously gather there know NOTHING about how Telltale works, yet voice their utmost profanities just because some of them get the third episode next week.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Yeah i agree with you. I live in the UK and i am waiting for Ep 3 for PSN. But you guys don't see me starting 50 threads just to say ''EP 3 IS NOT HERE YET TELLTALE IS CRAP!'' I have 3 steps for people like that.

1.Shut Up and get over it and just play something else.
2.If your conplaining about spoilers then stay out of TWD fourms
3.Stop making the Mod's jobs harder.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Ok i am starting to get annoyed at the amount of bots that's been spaming the fourms a lot lately. I think something has to be done about it. I know mods can't be on all the time but so here are my suggestions.

1.Telltale do something extra to prove that new members are not a bot.
2. Start modding a few more people who have proven they can handle being a mod and my suggestions for people who have proven themselves are:Darth Marsden,Shadowknight1,Der_Ketzer. But since a good amount of you guys have been here longer than me i guess you would know better who have proven themselves.

That's all i can think of right now guys.

[Vainamoinen]

Yes. Even the TWD forum doesn't get on my nerves as much as those spambots this weekend.

But I fear Der_Ketzer would rather jump out of the window than let us make him mod. :D

[ryannumber1gamer]

Yeah i can guess how hard it can be for a mod lately with spambots and the people crying about TWD.

[Darth Marsden]

Oh trust me, the last thing you want to do is give me more power. http://smilearchive.com/s/cwm/cwm/evil2.gif

Besides, I only ever hang out in General Chat, and there's plenty of mods here. All I'd be doing is catching things a little earlier than them, which really isn't enough of a reason to make me a mod.

[ryannumber1gamer]

You already got power?! Wow this is new news.

[Darth Marsden]

Well, I AM a Dark Lord of the Sith. Power kinda comes with the job.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Ah so you have the power to be review horrible movies.

[der_ketzer]

But I fear Der_Ketzer would rather jump out of the window than let us make him mod. :D

That wouldn't help because I'm in the ground floor. But no. No mod duty please. I value what's left of my sanity.

[coolsome]

A make your own Sunday bar bar would improve this place! And every 15th Monday is slap your daughter with a tie day.

[Darth Marsden]

Ah so you have the power to be review horrible movies.While maintaining my sanity, yes. Something like that. :)
And every 15th Monday is slap your daughter with a tie day.Would that be slap 'make her wear one' or slap 'physically assault her with one'? 'cause I could totally get behind one of those.

[der_ketzer]

Would that be slap 'make her wear one' or slap 'physically assault her with one'? 'cause I could totally get behind one of those.

I'll get my tie. You get the daughter.

If it is the first we'll take my ugly green one, if it's the second we'll take my good looking light blue one. If it's neither I still have a REALLY ugly red one.

[coolsome]

Would that be slap 'make her wear one' or slap 'physically assault her with one'? 'cause I could totally get behind one of those.

My lawyer advised me to say its make her wear one..its not.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Just to be clear you guys said you still had sanity left?

[coolsome]

Mines right.

[der_ketzer]

Just to be clear you guys said you still had sanity left?

yes. That's how I know which one of my ties are ugly.

Also I was a mod in a forum before and it was small but man the things I've seen...
Posts by users that were piss drunk and started to insult everyone. I usually sent them a copy of the post via PN and deleted the original and told them that they should post it again if they still mean it after getting sober again.
Hint: they never did.

[coolsome]

yes. That's how I know which one of my ties are ugly.

Hit your daughter with that one.

[der_ketzer]

Hit your daughter with that one.

I have no daughter. But I have a kindergarten right across the street. I'm sure I'll find the daughter of someone there.


And to get back on topic:
I'd really love to get bigger avatars for normal users. 50x50 is way too small.

[Friar]

Just to be clear you guys said you still had sanity left?

Yes. The voices in our heads are quite clear on that one.

[Darth Marsden]

Yes. The voices in our heads are quite clear on that one.Yours are clear? All I hear are violent screams. Usually when I'm trying to sleep. It's quite relaxing, actually.

[coolsome]

Yours are clear? All I hear are violent screams. Usually when I'm trying to sleep. It's quite relaxing, actually.

Its the neighbors fighting over the milkman.

[Darth Marsden]

Its the neighbors fighting over the milkman.No no, that's on every alternate Thursday, and it's more of a back-and-forth insult flinging contest than anything else. Can't get any sleep when they do that. Too busy egging them on.

[coolsome]

No no, that's on every alternate Thursday, and it's more of a back-and-forth insult flinging contest than anything else. Can't get any sleep when they do that. Too busy egging them on.

Better then my neighbors all I can here is the sound of springs.

http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/b/b2/SpringRobots.png/225px-SpringRobots.png

[Darth Marsden]

Well, I think that deserves a...

http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww141/ifqy473/thumbs-up.jpg

[ryannumber1gamer]

I got a suggestion. We need to get this back on subject before the mods lock the thread!

[Darth Marsden]

Aww...

But to second Ketzer's comment, large avatars would be nice.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Maybe a cool background would make the fourms look nice.

[coolsome]

An ostrage would be cool.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Coolsome why are you so random?

[coolsome]

Coolsome why are you so random?

Potatoes.

[ryannumber1gamer]

GLaDOS:Oh hi! So how are you holding up because i'm a potato!

[corruptbiggins]

Going back to the issue of spambots for a moment, I was just wondering if a mod could say if reporting a post/thread is actually a useful thing to do in finding and removing spam stuff or if it's just a waste of time and effort.

[DAISHI]

How about notify to Twitter/Facebook capability.

[coolsome]

Going back to the issue of spambots for a moment, I was just wondering if a mod could say if reporting a post/thread is actually a useful thing to do in finding and removing spam stuff or if it's just a waste of time and effort.

It is useful it helps them clean it up faster and block the bots faster.

[divisionten]

Going back to the issue of spambots for a moment, I was just wondering if a mod could say if reporting a post/thread is actually a useful thing to do in finding and removing spam stuff or if it's just a waste of time and effort.

Definitely helps. We appreciate the heads up.

[ryannumber1gamer]

How about a feature like for example you write this long post but you hit a wrong button my mistake and it takes you back a page or takes you to your homepage and when you go back the post is gone. So i think like a recovery feature on posts would be cool.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Ok that's it i am very annoyed and i'm sure everyone else is too at these bots. We the fourm members have to deal with this crap and the mods have it worst because it's them who have to clean up after the bots and all i can say is Telltale you have to do something about this! It's been around the last month the bots have started spaming more and more and it's getting very annoying.

[coolsome]

Ok that's it i am very annoyed and i'm sure everyone else is too at these bots. We the fourm members have to deal with this crap and the mods have it worst because it's them who have to clean up after the bots.

If you see one report it that's the best way to help the mods clean it up till TTG can sort this problem out.

[ryannumber1gamer]

It's not that Coolsome i know TTG is busy making TWD but i just think it's starting to be unfair to the mods that they have to keep cleaning up all the crap left behind by these bots.

[Johro]

Apparently, this forum needs elevator parts.

[coolsome]

i just think it's starting to be unfair to the mods that they have to keep cleaning up all the crap left behind by these bots.

Amen to that.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Also i have to say that mods are great. I am surprised they can do this. They have to put up with bots,Trolls,People who just joined to say ''TWD ep 2/3 ain't out yet TTG is crap i'm not buying from them again!!!!'' All i can say is Mods should get a metal for all they do and that the To the TTG fourm mods thread is one of the greatest threads this fourms has had.

[WarpSpeed]

Going back to the issue of spambots for a moment, I was just wondering if a mod could say if reporting a post/thread is actually a useful thing to do in finding and removing spam stuff or if it's just a waste of time and effort.

I tried this today, and the spambot (which was in a lesser-used forum) was toast a couple of minutes later, so I'd say it definitely helps.

[der_ketzer]

I tried this today, and the spambot (which was in a lesser-used forum) was toast a couple of minutes later, so I'd say it definitely helps.

It just depends. If no mod is around it will take a wile.

[Vainamoinen]

Definitely helps. We appreciate the heads up.

Of course we do. The only problem at the moment is that at times, eight community members report the same spambot = eight identical e-mails in our inboxes. :D

[corruptbiggins]

Definitely helps. We appreciate the heads up.

Good to know, thanks. I've done it a few times already, but I just wanted to check if I was supposed to be doing that.

Of course we do. The only problem at the moment is that at times, eight community members report the same spambot = eight identical e-mails in our inboxes. :D

That had occurred to me, but I guess there isn't really a better way right now.

[Johro]

Free Pastries. Wouldn't that be awesome?

Seriously though, the bots are getting ridiculous.

[Vainamoinen]

Seriously though, the bots are getting ridiculous.

Do tell!

http://pichost.de/images/2012/09/03/KlgN.jpg

[der_ketzer]

http://clubcreatingkeepsakes.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Discussions.Components.Files/87/3056.2rfvwcn.gif

[ryannumber1gamer]

No offence to TTG but it's their fourms and i think it's about time they finally do something about the bots. Between people complaining about TWD and bots, It is really starting to get hard for Mods. For example look at Vainamoinen's post. That is just the JP thread. The General threads and TWD threads are always spamed by bots and people crying about the release date of the next episode. TTG it's time someone did something about the bots and as i said before it's not fair Mods are left to clean up after the crap from Bots.

On another thing since this is a suggestion thread, Should this thread become a sticky?

[Darth Marsden]

I notice that you don't put a reason half the time, Vain. Now why could that be..?

[ryannumber1gamer]

I notice that you don't put a reason half the time, Vain. Now why could that be..?

Being fair here do you think bots give a crap about why their spam was deleted?

[coolsome]

I want my User CP profile pic as my avatar! (http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/member.php?u=22029)

[ryannumber1gamer]

You really like Metal Gear Solid don't you coolsome?

[coolsome]

You really like Metal Gear Solid don't you coolsome?

How could you tell? TBH the only reasin I picked a smoking monkey as my avatar was cos Big Boss smoked a cigar.

[hangingwithmonkeys]

Maybe TTG can't do anything really about bots. The fact they control it more or less is a good thing. Lots of forums are plagued by bots.

[ryannumber1gamer]

That reminds me coolsome. I got Metal Gear Solid 2 with the making of DVD for £4 pound.

[Darth Marsden]

...it amazes me how much you miss the point sometimes, Ryan.

[Icedhope]

Ryan..This is a thread about how to improve the site and forums.

[coolsome]

I mentioned it cos the avatars are to small to have Big Boss as my avatar not cos I lvoe MGS.

[Vainamoinen]

Well, I for one would be perfectly OK with slightly bigger avatars.

Then again, coolsome of course must never, ever change his avatar. BLASPHEMY.

[der_ketzer]

Well, I for one would be perfectly OK with slightly bigger avatars.

Then again, coolsome of course must never, ever change his avatar. BLASPHEMY.

Well if he does just give him his old one back and make him unable to change it as punishment.
That works in other forums based on vBulletin. :D

This happened in another forum I frequent. A lot of users got their username changed and a RuPaul avatar as punishment or for mocking others that got this punishment. Or in my case I got both by my request because RuPaul is great.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5827/willkr.jpg

[ryannumber1gamer]

I think that TTG should take all the games in the classics mini fourm page and putting all back to the main fourms would be an good idea because hardly anyone vists them anymore and i think if they are back on the main fourms there might be more people who check out those fourms.

[der_ketzer]

They were getting low views / posts anyway. I'd actually put BTTF & Puzzle Agent into that category now. TOMI seems to have enough active users still.

[coolsome]

I think the spam bots are dead!

[puzzlebox]

I think the spam bots are dead!

I think they're just waiting for reinforcements.

[coolsome]

I think they're just waiting for reinforcements.

THE DALEKS!!!!!l!

[Vainamoinen]

Granted, the spambots on this forum and the daleks in Doctor Who are two entities which have overstayed their welcome in about equal measure.

[Darth Marsden]

Are you sure you're a Mod and not a Thief? Because you've just stolen my heart in one glorious sentence.

[coolsome]

Granted, the spambots on this forum and the daleks in Doctor Who are two entities which have overstayed their welcome in about equal measure.


I take exception to that Dalek comment!

http://globalgeeknews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Doctor-Who-Dalek-Knitted-Hat.jpg
I wear a Dalek now Daleks are cool.

[Friar]

I claim this thread in the name of Sontar!



Improvement request that is never likely to be granted: I'd love to be able to change the colour scheme of the forum. Have it as a personalised setting or something.

More likely request: Automated warnings that come up before the forum goes down for it's regular maintenance at 9ish in the morning, so I don't lose a really long post.

[ryannumber1gamer]

I claim this thread in the name of Sontar!



Improvement request that is never likely to be granted: I'd love to be able to change the colour scheme of the forum. Have it as a personalised setting or something.

More likely request: Automated warnings that come up before the forum goes down for it's regular maintenance at 9ish in the morning, so I don't lose a really long post.

Yeah a warning would be good about the maintenance.

[coolsome]

More merchendice! Like Sam and Max season 1- 3 toys!

[Vainamoinen]

Just the forums, coolsome, not the store. And better not make this a "how to improve Telltale" thread. :D

Also, I will claim your spelling of "merchandise" as my own and make people spell it like that until the day I die.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Ok this is it i am pissed off at TTG! Today was the PS store UK update and Ep 3 is not out yet!!! So we are 2 weeks behind now. So now while everyone gets to enjoy and talk about TWD Ep 3, I still have to stay away from TWD thread for spoilers and don't give me crap about it being only Sony's fault for it. It's TTG's game so Sony and TTG can share the blame. You guys do not know how close i am to going to youtube and watching an Playthrough. I won't make a new thread about it not being here as i'm sure everyone knows there's enough of those but i know why people are angry with TTG now.

[Vainamoinen]

Sorry, but that post is so totally off-topic, even coolsome would always do better.

[ryannumber1gamer]

We were talking about the amount of delay threads for TWD here and how it could be improved for mods. I just throught i would mention my throughts on this now since it's not out this week and while i do not like the amount of people conplaining about TWD i can see were they are coming from and i think they have a right for 1 thread to talk about the delay. To be fair most people have gotten it and people like me who are getting the episodes on the UK PSN is still waiting and it's getting harder now because some people assume that everyone has played Ep 3 and stopped using spoiler alert at the start of the thread...I already got it spoiled that Carley/Doug dies because of threads that didn't say spoiler alert and just said about Carley/Doug dying So to get it back on topic i wish people would use spoiler alert more often.

[coolsome]

Granted, the spambots on this forum and the daleks in Doctor Who are two entities which have overstayed their welcome in about equal measure.

Daleks are my fave monsters in Doctor Who.

[Darth Marsden]

Ryan, you're missing the point. This thread (odd little asides - usually started by Coolsome - aside) is about offering suggestions as to how we could improve the forums. It's really not the place to discuss the fact that the new Walking Dead episode isn't out on the PS3. That's best left for the actual Walking Dead section of the forum.

Your rant about people not using spoiler tags... well, it's a valid point, but that's not what you originally said. I do sympathise - it's not nice, something like that being spoilt- but again, not quite the right place to mention it.

[coolsome]

Heres a real suggestion cos now I feel guilty. Backgrounds on your home page and maybe bulletins you can send to people on your friend list as it stands the user home pages are dull and not usful unless you wana send a PM.

[Darth Marsden]

Remorse for your actions? Why Coolsome, you might actually be human after all!

[coolsome]

Remorse for your actions? Why Coolsome, you might actually be human after all!

Yes...keep thinking that..

[ryannumber1gamer]

Really would it really be so hard for people to say in TWD fourms ''Spoiler Alert.. should they bring Carley/Doug back. The most annoying thread that is guilty of this is the Bring Carley Back thread, That is what spoiled Carley/Doug for me. Anyway i still think a background would be good for the fourms.

[Chyron8472]

Remorse for your actions? Why Coolsome, you might actually be human after all!

He's more machine now than man--twisted and evil.

[Vainamoinen]

Re: puzzlebox' deleted post

Two people, one thought. :cool:

[Johro]

If it's bacon, you can count me in too. If bacon isn't doable, I'll take the increased security thought.

[Vainamoinen]

- Captcha + email verification upon registration

- second email verification a week after registration

- first post possible 24 hours after registration

- Inability to open new threads for new members in the first week (support forum exempt)

[WarpSpeed]

Provide an easy way to sign in on an https login screen, for those occasions when I don't want other people on the network to see my super-secret Telltale password.

[Darth Marsden]

- Inability to open new threads for new members in the first week (support forum exempt)Oh Christ, is that needed. It'd make the mod's jobs so much easier.

[Johro]

- Captcha + email verification upon registration

- second email verification a week after registration

- first post possible 24 hours after registration

- Inability to open new threads for new members in the first week (support forum exempt)

Oh yeah.

[der_ketzer]

- Captcha + email verification upon registration

- second email verification a week after registration

- first post possible 24 hours after registration

- Inability to open new threads for new members in the first week (support forum exempt)

http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc346/adjustvolume/SouthParkCircle.jpg

Well it's still better than spambots all the time.:(

[GuruGuru214]

- Captcha + email verification upon registration

- second email verification a week after registration

- first post possible 24 hours after registration

- Inability to open new threads for new members in the first week (support forum exempt)

I was with you on the first one, but the rest is some serious overkill.

[coolsome]

I was with you on the first one, but the rest is some serious overkill.

I think its under kill. We need new users to have 2 forms of photo ID 6 references from friends and family and a £35 million deposit to stop them breaking any rule.

[Secret Fawful]

I was with you on the first one, but the rest is some serious overkill.

I'm honestly on the fence that we shouldn't make it impossible to register with free email accounts, like neoGAF does. It doesn't always keep the assholes out, but it definitely cuts the level of them significantly.

[GuruGuru214]

Keeping spambots out is no good if people can't get in.

[coolsome]

Keeping spambots out is no good if people can't get in.

It does if we wana build a prison for spambots!

[Secret Fawful]

Keeping spambots out is no good if people can't get in.

GAF has 80,000+ members in total. We have 450,000+. Yet, thousands use GAF daily, but only hundreds use ours. Yes, it will cut the member size down, but it will keep it tighter and full of people who mostly act in a mature manner and want to be here.

Everyone should still have access to the support forum and games, but discussion boards might require more drastic guidelines? I'm really struggling on this one, because I'm trying to think of a solution that means more mature registering members but also a continual amount of personal freedom.

In my experience, if people really want to discuss something with a community, they'll go through a few guidelines.

[Friar]

Put it this way, if the forum required a ISP/paid for e-mail address, then I wouldn't be a member. I don't have an e-mail address like that anymore (well I probably have a sky one, but i haven't a clue what it is, and I'm not sifting through all my paperwork to find it).

[divisionten]

I don't have a pay email either, nor do I have a standing ISP with the sheer crazy amount of travel I do. Since joining the forums, I have posted from Japan, South Korea, Mexico, and no less than 10 US states.

[Secret Fawful]

Well, these forums need to be stricter in some regard if you don't want it to be an absolute zoo anymore. The kid gloves need to come off.

[Vainamoinen]

I appreciate the protest. These are just ideas, and all at once are probably not advised.

Still, those security measures are not unheard of, and I am sure that just the captcha and e-mail activation simply are not sufficient. 2K games forums do the 24 hour thing (IIRC, they send the activation e-mail one day after registration), and I guess that keeps a lot of the spambots, less mature people and flamers out. That was like a light bulb over my head when they informed me. The problem is, when you want support, you won't get it immediately - and you should.

We're fighting the same actual people getting back in day after day, they're posting the same crap over and over. Captcha and e-mail verification might hold the spambots halfway at bay. But the fact alone that they have advanced to more of a primary problem is ludicrous. The one-post-multi-account-flame/insult/disrupt wonders like in the TWD forum are the real problem. Keeping the forum as open as possible is a great thing, but as things stand, we need more walls up. The verification e-mail is not more than a red line to cross on the ground, but we don't even have that at the time.

Checking if an e-mail still is valid after a week is sensible. With sites like 10 minute e-mail, giving a fake one is as easy as giving a real one. And this really would be hassle-free. You click another activation link in, say, a month's time, and all's well.

The last point, if you will, is the overkill. Restricting the posts of new members, that signals a real lack of trust in the new member. Not a good thing. It would force new members to find correct threads to post in though, and we have a lot of long term members who still don't care to dig out an existing thread. It would demand a certain patience, and if I know one thing about the people we want out, it's that they don't possess an inch of it. The biggest assholes don't even go through the eight second "hassle" of registration, they just post on the blog. Maybe not this post restriction bit, but we need more hassle upon registration.

Well, these forums need to be stricter in some regard if you don't want it to be an absolute zoo anymore. The kid gloves need to come off.

I want us to be a zoo still. We've got a whole lot of very different characters under one roof, and that is a good thing. But you're probably right with the kid's gloves. Telltale has grown immensely, we can't still pretend that the community will essentially self regulate and moderators just have to post the occasional "let's all be nice to each other again" for things to run smooth. What I had to do in here in the last four months to keep this a halfway agreeable place literally breaks my heart. Scalpel's useless, so I broke out the axe. And let's be absolutely honest: Telltale's growth pains have probably only just begun. The situation will get worse before it gets better - hopefully with a catch of breath in Fables times.

[coolsome]

Its a Time War with the spambots!

[divisionten]

CAPCHA and email verification are all fine and good for spambots, I agree.

I have to say the most interesting way to take care of getting rid of the one-post-and-scram flamers comes from Kingdom of Loathing.

You have to pass a spelling and grammar test. Not a hard one, mind you- even most of the forum members who don't speak English as a fist language could pass. But enough of a thing to annoy and dissuade those who abuse the system and make lots of fake accounts to spam.

[GuruGuru214]

Still, those security measures are not unheard of, and I am sure that just the captcha and e-mail activation simply are not sufficient.

I still say it's too much. And I don't know if you've noticed, Vain, but we already have something in place that restricts the actions of new users. If someone new posts a link or an image in one of their first few posts, that post is auto-moderated. That's why the system exists, so that questionable posts can be hidden from the larger forum until someone from the mod team can look it over and decide if it's legit or not. It's also why spambots have started putting the links in their signatures or registering and then coming back way later to post.

As for the people you've mentioned who get banned and then keep coming back under new accounts, maybe your system could be put into place for new accounts registered from an IP address that already has an account tied to it? It wouldn't help with proxies, but it would cut down on banned users making 50 accounts.

And why are we having this discussion in General Chat?

[Vainamoinen]

And why are we having this discussion in General Chat?

Because ye olde community occasionally resides here, whose opinions we value. We should just be careful not to speak about the usual stuff. ;)

Out of the last 30 auto moderated threads I saw, 30 were spambots. That might not exactly be a representative sample, but it shows that these functions definitely do not catch what I see as the real problem. Auto moderation can only catch mechanically generated stuff with certainty.

We have already experienced that IP bans are completely useless for users who really want to go on our nerves. Also, I recently found out that a lot of countries and providers don't even attach fixed IPs. These guys get a new one every time they visit the site. Let's just say that my belief in IP-based solutions is at a very, very low point.

[der_ketzer]

Captchas (http://www.seosmarty.com/impossible-captcha-it-doesnt-really-matter-if-you-are-human-or-not/) are fun! (http://thethirdagency.com/captcha-collection/)

[coolsome]

You guys need to lose the 60 seconds to report again after flagging a post. These spam bots make like 6 different posts at once.

[Johro]

You probably only need to report one to draw them to the forum section. But hey, if you want to spam the mods,... :p

[coolsome]

You probably only need to report one to draw them to the forum section. But hey, if you want to spam the mods,... :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mfFZ-1eUmE

[ryannumber1gamer]

Ok that's it i'm convinced. TTG need to ether make the fourms more safer from spambots or start modding a few more people. There has been loads of spambots on tonight it's getting very very annoying now.

[GuruGuru214]

We deal with spambots as soon as we see them, and with as quickly as they get reported, they don't last long on here. More mods wouldn't help us catch them faster.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Still there must have been like 10 spambots in around the last 4 hours or so. I just wish TT would do something about them.

[Giant Tope]

...but they do do something about them. they're always removed really quickly.

[ryannumber1gamer]

No that's the mods.

[Secret Fawful]

No that's the mods.

http://i.picpar.com/a1a256a88b39b598c775959367e3a94675db8987.gif

[GuruGuru214]

No that's the mods.

The mods are what Telltale is doing about them.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Yes but Guru mods can't be online all the time. What if the spambots come when everyone is offline?

[GuruGuru214]

The mods were chosen from a variety of time zones so that we can be on when the Telltale staff can't be. Between us all, we have it pretty well covered.

[Secret Fawful]

Yes but Guru mods can't be online all the time. What if the spambots come when everyone is offline?

Then you won't know about it.

[Vainamoinen]

The mods were chosen from a variety of time zones so that we can be on when the Telltale staff can't be. Between us all, we have it pretty well covered.

That the mods come from different time zones is, pretty much, coincidence. Not conscious choice. Had Telltale NOT attracted fans from all over the world, things would look very differently today.

But, yeah, I am impressed that some moderator always seems to be around. Heck, most of the time, the reaction to spam reports is a matter of minutes. Often when these mails JUST arrive in my inbox, I click on the direct link and the spam's already gone.

Still, if moderators were here to "remove spam", I wouldn't have volunteered in the first place. This is a fundamental fault of the present forum mechanics, and it needs to be taken care of quickly. The solution to problem "spambot" is definitely not "more mods". With the surge of new members and general forum heat increase, there are plenty of other problems to take care of, and these require more of a brain also.

[Gman5852]

Ok, considering the fact that Telltale's Sam and Max 25th anniversary blog post is spammed with "NO ONE CARES! WHERE'S EPISODE 4" Makes me think telltale mods should be able to delete posts from the blog/be able to IP ban people from it. So disrespectful.

[coolsome]

Ok that's it i'm convinced. TTG need to ether make the fourms more safer from spambots or start modding

It's not like the spam bots hurt you and the spams usly gone faster then you can say "TTG IS COOLSOME" the only time it sticks is when mods arnt on but thats usly like 4 am my time.

[Darth Marsden]

Ok, considering the fact that Telltale's Sam and Max 25th anniversary blog post is spammed with "NO ONE CARES! WHERE'S EPISODE 4" Makes me think telltale mods should be able to delete posts from the blog/be able to IP ban people from it. So disrespectful.They do that? Oh, for fuck's sake.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Ok, considering the fact that Telltale's Sam and Max 25th anniversary blog post is spammed with "NO ONE CARES! WHERE'S EPISODE 4" Makes me think telltale mods should be able to delete posts from the blog/be able to IP ban people from it. So disrespectful.

I know,When i checked the comments on that blog post i was like ''You are joking me, You only got Episode 3 around a week/2 weeks ago!'' By the way to other posts A. I ment I didn't mean Mods were only here to remove spam, Also on this point i got a tip for spoting spambot users who have not made a post. Their usernames are usually a bunch of random letters. B. I would agree with Vainamoinen. It's not like TTG searched high and low around the fourms for people in certain time zones.

I'm not trying to say Mods are doing a bad job because they do great jobs and spam is usually gone in a few minutes or 20 minutes at the most. But it seems everyday more and more spambots are joining and the more spambots join, there will be more spam.

Back to your point Gman, I think TTG should do S&M Season 4, Tomi Season 2 (Or at least try to get a deal since i hear Lucasarts got a new person to be the boss.) W&G season 2, Strong Bad season 2 (He's been gone for around two years and a new Strong Bad season would be a great comeback) BTTF season 2 so we can find out what happens after the ''To Be Continued'' Part at the end, Then TWD season 2 just so then TTG won't have to keep hearing people going on and on about getting the next episode out as much, So at least people actually wait 1 month before saying ''Where's my episode 4!!!!!''

[Darth Marsden]

I'd like Telltale to try something original for once rather than sequels or 'set in the same universe's. But hey ho.

We do need something to stop the spambots. Beyond that, I think we're doing pretty good, all told.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Yes except.....You still have a Doctor Who game to finish.

[Darth Marsden]

Christ, I'm surprised you even remember that! I didn't. :p

[ryannumber1gamer]

Yeah it was a enjoyable Review/Rant.I'm Hoping you do a longer review on it.

[coolsome]

Christ, I'm surprised you even remember that! I didn't. :p

Ohh about the hats in the game. Do you actually get to wear them or are they just collectible items?

[Darth Marsden]

Yeah it was a enjoyable Review/Rant.I'm Hoping you do a longer review on it.I'll do a full review once I've actually finished it. Apparently that shouldn't be too long, since it's not a very long game, by all accounts. Spoilers though - it's really not very good.

Ohh about the hats in the game. Do you actually get to wear them or are they just collectible items?Just collectables, sadly. When you look at them in the collectables menu you do get a 'funny' comment for each one,which Matt Smith (optionally) say out loud, but that's about it. And the other collectables, pages from River's Diary, aren't shown closely enough to actually allow you to read them, which is very annoying.

Basically, the only reason to collect them is for the PS3 trophies, because they're utterly pointless otherwise. :(

[der_ketzer]

...but they do do something about them. they're always removed really quickly.

Yes. But the number of threads seems to go up.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Funny thing is i reported all those threads (I might of missed 1) Thanks for Silverwolfpet who got here before the fourms were completely flooded...Now back to my second playthrough of TWD Ep 3.

[der_ketzer]

Funny thing is i reported all those threads (I might of missed 1)
That took over 10 minutes. I admire you dedication.

[ryannumber1gamer]

I don't know if your trolling me or you are thanking me.

[coolsome]

I once said I would never use the report function. Now Im reporting everytime I see a spambot! WHAT HAVE I BECOME!!!!!

[ryannumber1gamer]

A helpful member to the fourms......Wow you have changed :D

[coolsome]

spamming jerk

You arse! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralEventHorizon)

[der_ketzer]

I don't know if your trolling me or you are thanking me.

Funny thing is I don't know either.
I usually only report one of the threads. Just because the 60 second delay is annoying.
As I said. I admire your persistence.:)

[coolsome]

Funny thing is I don't know either.
I usually only report one of the threads. Just because the 60 second delay is annoying.
As I said. I admire your persistence.:)

I report any I see but If like 90 appear at once I tell them its flooded in the report (report). Thats probably the best way.

[der_ketzer]

I once said I would never use the report function. Now Im reporting everytime I see a spambot! WHAT HAVE I BECOME!!!!!

Your own mother wouldn't recognise you any more.:eek:

[Darth Marsden]

I find it hilarious that this thread has basically become us bitching about the bots... and there's a bot posting in the thread now. Oh, the irony! The delicious, delicious irony! (Seriously, it tastes like fudge cake.)

[ryannumber1gamer]

I wonder will i get to the end of this episode before tomorrow, Because i want to be part of the help and not the problem, That's why i keep reporting these bots.

[der_ketzer]

(Seriously, it tastes like fudge cake.)

Cake is cake. No matter what it's made of. Unless it's made of lies.

[coolsome]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeelFaceTurn

[ryannumber1gamer]

Do you think the spambots are going to stop for a few hours now?

[ryannumber1gamer]

I find it hilarious that this thread has basically become us bitching about the bots... and there's a bot posting in the thread now. Oh, the irony! The delicious, delicious irony! (Seriously, it tastes like fudge cake.)

No it's not. Bots are a huge problem to these fourms and one of everyones biggest suggestions to help get rid off. It's still a suggestion that we find a way to stop them.

[coolsome]

No it's not. Bots are a huge problem to these fourms and one of everyones biggest suggestions to help get rid off. It's still a suggestion that we find a way to stop them.

I'v got a suggestion! Take a joke!

[der_ketzer]

Do you think the spambots are going to stop for a few hours now?

They never stop.

[ryannumber1gamer]

I'v got a suggestion! Take a joke!

Well i just don't see what's funny about it. Mods have to go through a lot of crap with these bots getting worst. Coolsome you said you always report these bots and so do i but when i had to report over 10 threads in around 15 or 20 minutes just throught how worst this has to be for mods. Only good thing for mods is i don't think Mods have the 60 second waiting thing so they can delete threads faster.

[coolsome]

Well i just don't see what's funny about it. Mods have to go through a lot of crap with these bots getting worst. Coolsome you said you always report these bots and so do i but when i had to report over 10 threads in around 15 or 20 minutes just throught how worst this has to be for mods. Only good thing for mods is i don't think Mods have the 60 second waiting thing so they can delete threads faster.

I feel for the mods but I don't think its such a huge problem that making light of it is deemed unhelpful. cus you know theres muuuch bigger problems in the world. And its pretty funny a bot got in this thread as were complaining.

[der_ketzer]

Well i just don't see what's funny about it.

The problem is you are not the one that determines what is funny and what is not. If you think you are please slap yourself in the face until you wake up, so I don't have to.

I feel for the mods but I don't think its such a huge problem that making light of it is deemed unhelpful. cus you know theres muuuch bigger problems in the world. And its pretty funny a bot got in this thread as were complaining.

+1. The bot/troll posting here while we were complaining about it was the funniest thing I experienced all day.

[ryannumber1gamer]

I am not saying i know what is funny! All i'm saying is I don't think it's funny.

[coolsome]

I am not saying i know what is funny! All i'm saying is I don't think it's funny.

Well bully for you.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Anyone notice they seem to be posting in the BTTF hint & JP hint fourms?

[der_ketzer]

Anyone notice they seem to be posting in the BTTF hint & JP hint fourms?

Nope. I collapsed those subforums because I have 0 interest in those applications of horror & doom.

[ryannumber1gamer]

That's the thing. Hardly anyone vists those fourms anymore.

[coolsome]

Just post a logical paradox on the sign up so bots will explode.

[Giant Tope]

these forums are the great they remind me of when I was in college

watch lithuania vs ireland 2012###
watch china vs brasil 2012###
sports memorabillia
football memorabilla
fifa 2012
fifa 2013 (Telltalegames.com)

[Vainamoinen]

Now that DOESN'T HELP. :o

[coolsome]

I got a suggestion! Theme songs! We NEED them!

[Giant Tope]

Honestly, the handling of bots are something that the mods do best at considering the sheer amount we get. Even then, bots arent really anything but silly.

Id liken the forums to a garden owned by a wealthy family thats watched over by a bunch of groundskeepers. The members are the plants and the bots are weeds. While caring for the plants can take thoughtfulness, the weeds just need to be pulled. They might keep popping up, but there isnt much that you can do but pull.

[Darth Marsden]

They do keep the Mods on their toes, I'll give 'em that. Along with a fist to the face. They can have that too.
(The bots, not the mods. Why would I punch a Mod? They're not sleeping with my sister, are they? Better not be.)

[Secret Fawful]

They do keep the Mods on their toes, I'll give 'em that. Along with a fist to the face. They can have that too.
(The bots, not the mods. Why would I punch a Mod? They're not sleeping with my sister, are they? Better not be.)

I am.

[GuruGuru214]

Thought you guys might be interested to see the combined result of the spambots and the new Walking Dead episode.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/GuruGuru214/reports.png

Gmail groups them kind of arbitrarily, but those 36 at the top are just today.

[coolsome]

cools is spamming you!

[ryannumber1gamer]

How dare that cools!!! Now we just need to find him on the fourms.

[coolsome]

I don't remember doing it that many times tbh.

[Giant Tope]

typically if i see a group of spam threads, i just report one of them and kind of assume the mod will notice all the other ones there as well.

[GuruGuru214]

Those were from everyone, not just you, coolsome.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Yes for example i must have sent around 10-15 reports about the spambot threads today.

[coolsome]

Those were from everyone, not just you, coolsome.

Ohh good. I thought I became obsessive.

[ryannumber1gamer]

...and we went so long before another bot spammed the fourms :|

[coolsome]

Whenever coolsome is not on-line, all the other members should be asking 'Where's coolsome?

[puzzlebox]

...and we went so long before another bot spammed the fourms :|

I think we were just cleaning them up before anyone noticed them. :/

The fabled "new forum" is expected to have something that will at least deter them a little.

[coolsome]

The fabled "new forum" is expected to have something that will at least deter them a little.

Will it have hams and yams and cookies and candies?

[GuruGuru214]

...and we went so long before another bot spammed the fourms :|

Trust me, it hasn't stopped at all. It's slowed just a little, but there's still several every day.

[Vainamoinen]

Whenever coolsome is not on-line, all the other members should be asking 'Where's coolsome?

We are, but we're always deleting our posts before you turn up again.

[der_ketzer]

Whenever coolsome is not on-line, all the other members should be asking 'Where's coolsome?

Well these posts exist. You just cannot see them!
Have you ever wondered why there is sometimes a link to a page of the "Whatever is on your mind" thread but if you click it it directs to the site before that? That's because of these posts.

[GuruGuru214]

Have you ever wondered why there is sometimes a link to a page of the "Whatever is on your mind" thread but if you click it it directs to the site before that? That's because of these posts.

I actually have no idea why this happens and it drives me crazy. I do know that it doesn't happen on earlier pages and I'm determined to get to the bottom of it one day.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Wow you guys must really have been working hard to stop them for around a week or so, Can't really blame you guys for letting one through by mistake.

[GuruGuru214]

We get them all eventually. It's just that sometimes we get them more quickly.

[Vainamoinen]

I actually have no idea why this happens and it drives me crazy. I do know that it doesn't happen on earlier pages and I'm determined to get to the bottom of it one day.

Huh. I think there's a reason why other vbulletin board moderators oppose threads with more than 100 pages. ;)

[JedExodus]

Ban JedExodus in 2013.

[DAISHI]

Can we have a Coolsome button that spawns an awkwardly random thread topic that gets shut down within five posts?

[der_ketzer]

Ban JedExodus in 2013.

Why start late. Why not now?

[GuruGuru214]

Huh. I think there's a reason why other vbulletin board moderators oppose threads with more than 100 pages. ;)

I'm sorry! I was young and had no idea what a nightmare behemoth that thread would become!

Ban JedExodus in 2013.

I think I could manage to ban JedEx until 2013. Would that work?

[coolsome]

I'm sorry! I was young and had no idea what a nightmare behemoth that thread would become!


It is now a sentient life form..YOUR A DADDY!

[Chyron8472]

YOUR A DADDY!

his a daddy?

...oh, "you're a daddy"


ahem.I think the forums would be greatly improved if people had proper grammar and spelling.

[coolsome]

A common grammatical mistake is confusing "your" and "thinking I want your grammatical advice."

[Vainamoinen]

One of the improvements to community rules would in fact be that spelling correction is out of the scope of the forum, i.e. too off topic anywhere. Fuck it, the worst spellers in the TWD community have actually started correcting others. This must stop.

http://s12.postimage.org/uf4zadcz1/spellcheck.gif

[ryannumber1gamer]

One of the improvements to community rules would in fact be that spelling correction is out of the scope of the forum, i.e. too off topic anywhere. Fuck it, the worst spellers in the TWD community have actually started correcting others. This must stop.

http://s12.postimage.org/uf4zadcz1/spellcheck.gif

Wow. Now i know what Darth Marsden meant when he said to me that it was ironic that I helped a new member by fixing his posts.

[Chyron8472]

Wow. Now I know what Darth Marsden meant when he said to me that it was ironic that I helped a new member by fixing his posts.

fixed.

[coolsome]

fixed.

http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/pictures/onetimers/Linguo.gif

[Darth Marsden]

fixed.lol'd. And I don't do that as often as you think, so thanks!

[Icedhope]

It seems this thread has gone off the beaten path..

I think one thing that might improve the community is maybe doing something like doing live playthroughs and have community members interact? maybe?

[Chyron8472]

It seems this thread has gone off the beaten path..
...and that has made all the difference (http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-road-not-taken/). :D

I think one thing that might improve the community is maybe doing something like doing live playthroughs and have community members interact? maybe?We used to to that, with Monkey Island Races and such. I think it stopped when Guru stopped planning them.

[Darth Marsden]

If I could figure out a way to do a live playthrough of Drake, I'd be all for that for a future part. It'd be handy since I'm running out of things to say about it!

[GuruGuru214]

We used to to that, with Monkey Island Races and such. I think it stopped when Guru stopped planning them.

Oversaturation. People wanted races in both the summer and the winter. Then, people wanted Sam & Max races. Eventually, as those subforums started to decline in activity and there was too many races going on, people stopped participating (the last Monkey Island race only had five participants, four of whom finished, and the Sam & Max race only had two), so I stopped running them, and there hasn't been enough interest to justify setting them up again.

[ryannumber1gamer]

Great now the bots have starting making fake threads :|

[coolsome]

Great now the bots have starting making fake threads :|

That was really funny though.

[GuruGuru214]

Could be worse. One time, before I was a mod, I had a troll make a fake account and pretend to be me.

[der_ketzer]

fixed.

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web04/2010/4/21/14/thumbs-up-29608-1271874118-8.jpg

I think one thing that might improve the community is maybe doing something like doing live playthroughs and have community members interact? maybe?

We already had that. And some of the users here are still streaming.

[coolsome]

Could be worse. One time, before I was a mod, I had a troll make a fake account and pretend to be me.

I remember that! Ah those where the days....Wait YOUR A MOD!?

[Johro]

I think you showed us that. The numbers were mixed right?

[GuruGuru214]

No, he added a space, so it was "GuruGuru 214".

[coolsome]

No, he added a space, so it was "GuruGuru 214".

They made some sort of Sailorcuteness one. After I stopped using that name.

[Johro]

coolsome is much better.

[Alcoremortis]

Could be worse. One time, before I was a mod, I had a troll make a fake account and pretend to be me.

I remember that. There was also the time when that one guy just switched his avatar and relavent sidebar information to match various people on the forum and really confused everyone.

[Jennifer]

They made some sort of Sailorcuteness one. After I stopped using that name.
coolsome is much better.
Someone should make Sailorcoolsome. :D

[ryannumber1gamer]

Well that was a huge spam attack, The spambot was spaming the fourms for almost a full hour :|

[GuruGuru214]

It was several. I think I banned at least eight of them.

[coolsome]

It was several. I think I banned at least eight of them.

TO THE SHADOW REALM HAHAAHAHAH!!!!l!!!

[ryannumber1gamer]

It was several. I think I banned at least eight of them.

They are getting worst and worst...On the blight side Coolsome told us that one of his dream games is TTG vs The Spambots :D

[GuruGuru214]

You guys remember when Vainamoinen showed off what the forums looked like for us mods?

Do tell!

http://pichost.de/images/2012/09/03/KlgN.jpg

Here's what we had to put into place just so we could actually look at the forums.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/GuruGuru214/spam_zpsf9d053a2.png

[ryannumber1gamer]

Again yeah it really is getting worst with these spambots. They didn't even stay in the General Fourms this time. They spamed JP hints and Shopping support fourms.

[coolsome]

They didn't even stay in the General Fourms this time.

:eek: The nerve of them!

[GuruGuru214]

Again yeah it really is getting worst with these spambots. They didn't even stay in the General Fourms this time. They spamed JP hints and Shopping support fourms.

Oh believe me, I know.