[SPOILERS]Lilly to return? (merged threads)

[Tekor]

Hey guys,

I want to see how many peoples besides me would like to have Lilly back in group in the next episode.

She is my favorite character alongside with Carley and Duck,but since those two are already dead i hope i will have an option to at least have her back.

What you guys think ?

[Merc]

She killed my bro and stole my ride.

Woman don't get more kill on sight than that. :mad:

[TikiLouie]

This is a joke, right?

[kingmartykim]

I really liked Lily...i really did until she shot Carley like that...crazy bitch...and i did another play where i take her to the RV but she leaves me like that anyways...so NO

[StanleyStutters]

I wouldn't mind seeing her in another episode, but she's not getting back in the group. She became extremely paranoid, murdered a member of the group, stole the RV and abandoned everyone.

[Bearcules]

Hey guys,

I want to see how many peoples besides me would like to have Lilly back in group in the next episode.

She is my favorite character alongside with Carley and Duck,but since those two are already dead i hope i will have an option to at least have her back.

What you guys think ?

Lilly killed Carly because the stress of being the alpha and the loss of her father caused her to snap. I can understand the cause of her snapping but the death isn't justified. If I were Lee I would not feel safe with Lilly around Clem or myself.

[jaynasty78]

Sure id love to see her back. JUST SO I CAN GET JUSTICE FOR CARLY. But i would let her kill Ben first just so i wouldnt have to get my hands dirty.And where was the throw Ben over the side of the train option?

[darham175]

Lilly can't be in the next episode because she's on her way to Woodbury, which according to google maps is west of Macon whereas Savannah is east.

[kingmartykim]

Only if she comes back naked

[ozzmann]

I'd like to see her come back......as a Walker so I can put a bullet in her brain!

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[Faramis]

It is unlikely we will see her in Ep4. But for Ep5? I would say it is very likely, that she will come back and there will be that moment of wrath, justice and redemption (not neccesarily in this order). It would be very fitting, considering what she has done.

[kingmartykim]

It is unlikely we will see her in Ep4. But for Ep5? I would say it is very likely, that she will come back and there will be that moment of wrath, justice and redemption (not neccesarily in this order). It would be very fitting, considering what she has done.

True...also if she tells me that she buried Carly and apologizes for what she did....that would be a big PLUS!

[Norskatt]

I would have shot and killed her in Episode 3 if I had the chance.

[adam5555]

she can come back if she wants but she would be safer hanging with the walkers then with me.

[FoxxyFox]

She will for sure come back but not in the next episode and I want her to make a comeback, because every group need a troublemaker you can love or hate ;)

[ozzmann]

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[Rock114]

You like her? After she murdered your friend right in front of you, with no evidence, just because she had a hunch? And then the hunch turned out to be wrong? Cold blooded murder man, there's not much Lilly can do to come back from this.

[ruairi46]

You like her? After she murdered your friend right in front of you, with no evidence, just because she had a hunch? And then the hunch turned out to be wrong? Cold blooded murder man, there's not much Lilly can do to come back from this.

to be fair she wasent aiming for carley/doug she was aiming for ben, and it was him so it was a good hunch.

[Sergiy]

She was on edge, her father was killed. It was in the heat of the moment, and quite honestly I shot Jolee after a very brief conversation, so I'm not one to Judge.

But yeah, I'd quite like Lilly to catch up with the group.

[Lone_Wanderer]

Well, when I said Lilly, that I will go with her, before she left me in the dust, the game said that "Lilly will remember that".

So maybe we will see her again ?

[Sergiy]

But then, the game told us Shawn would remember that too... he died about 10 mins later.

[big-augen]

Well, when I said Lilly, that I will go with her, before she left me in the dust, the game said that "Lilly will remember that".

So maybe we will see her again ?

She will, but we'll not see her again in the game. If you guys want Lilly, read the coming novel and/or the comic books.

Oh... and by the way, I hate Ben!!!

[Sergiy]

[Comic spoilers]

Well Lilly is only in once scene in the comics..

[Tekor]

She will, but we'll not see her again in the game. If you guys want Lilly, read the coming novel and/or the comic books.

Oh... and by the way, I hate Ben!!!

Why ? Maybe i am missing something but in the game it's not being said where is she going and storyline doesn't actually follow comic books?

[darham175]

Lilly is the woman that shoots Lori and the baby at the prison. Kirkman has already stated that this game is canon so in order for the two to connect Lilly has to be on her way towards Woodbury so that she can run into Rick's group in the comics.

[Tekor]

Lilly is the woman that shoots Lori and the baby at the prison. Kirkman has already stated that this game is canon so in order for the two to connect Lilly has to be on her way towards Woodbury so that she can run into Rick's group in the comics.

I didn't knew the game is canon to the comic books but i checked it out and yes it is BUT highlight me please because Lilly doesn't die in the comic and wikia says "In The Walking Dead Survivors' Guide, Lilly is listed as presumed living. " so there is a chance that she is coming back in later episodes i believe.

[Cooperal]

Lilly is a self-centered bitch and that's putting it nicely. I helped her and she betrayed my trust. She ignored me and killed my woman. Even despite (unknowingly) killing the wrong person, she tried to justify her act by throwing out own murders back at us. She didn't know the difference. She killed someone that posed no immediate threat, intentionally, based on an emotionally fuelled hunch.

None of mine or Kennys kills managed to tick every one of those boxes. Oh but I can think of someone who DID try that before her. Larry when he punched me in the store. Oh did I mention I found some pills to save his life just moments before he did that?

Not only did she use our own murders against us, she suggests that they all just drop that it happened, like she apparently did when Kenny killed Larry.... she didn't in the slightest. Another quote from her "but I'll die". Yes, with any luck, justice will be served.

She is corrupt and self-centered. She doesn't have the decision-making skills to be fit for a leader, that much is certain. She diesn;t want to help anyone from outside the group, but when it comes to an abandoned full of loot it's "wrong" to take it? Whether she's right or wrong about a bunch of things, her reasoning is always off.

[Lone_Wanderer]

But then, the game told us Shawn would remember that too... he died about 10 mins later.

Yeah, you've got a point.

[wrex08]

What, Lilly shoots Lori? I think I found my new favourite character right here.

[Khazmo]

I'm actually hoping we'll see her again in a Season 2 of the game.

[L e x]

I'm actually hoping we'll see her again in a Season 2 of the game.

I thought the game is just 5 episodes and that's it?



Seeing Lilzzz in episode 4 might be too soon but I think she might make that episode 5 appearance.

[ZacTB]

I hope Season 2 is a whole different story not related to Lee or Clementine. Cameos of characters (not Lee or Clementine though) who were in the first Season and also comic characters, obviously, would be good. I like the idea of playing as a female character.

Edit: I really, really hope Lilly doesn't return. Not because I don't like her, just I liked the way she left (only if you decide to not take her with you in the RV like I did though) and the whole shock factor around it. Having her return would completely ruin it.

[Khazmo]

The game is just 5 episodes, but if it makes them enough money, expect a sequel season to come out. Afterall, it will cost less to make a sequel, due to being able to reuse so many assets from season 1, whilst making more money.

Personally, I think this season will end in one of two ways, both of which lend into a season 2:

1) Lee dies, which means that Telltale avoid having to carry over any decisions from the first season, and can use a new character instead.
2) All but Lee and Clem die, meaning that for season 2, they can give us a new group to go with, and the actions of the first season do not matter much.

I can't see it ending any other way

[ComixFan]

No. At this point I think putting a character that would *have* to leave the group at some point because she "needed to be elsewhere" was a mistake from the start. Glen should have been the only Cameo group member and his departure was handled exceptionally well. Lily's should have been as well, not sacrificing two characters just to send her packing. Her coming back will only serve as a reminder of TellTale's blunder in this regard.

[skepticalguy90]

to be fair she wasent aiming for carley/doug she was aiming for ben, and it was him so it was a good hunch.

Oh, she was aiming for Carley. At point blank, she shot her right in the face.

[darham175]

No. At this point I think putting a character that would *have* to leave the group at some point because she "needed to be elsewhere" was a mistake from the start. Glen should have been the only Cameo group member and his departure was handled exceptionally well. Lily's should have been as well, not sacrificing two characters just to send her packing. Her coming back will only serve as a reminder of TellTale's blunder in this regard.

Just because Lilly ends up in Woodbury doesn't neccesarily mean she headed there straight away, she probably knew about the group heading to Savannah and therefore could have headed that way herself. She could still show up in 4 or 5 so long as she has time to end up in Woodbury. Anyone wanna throw together a timeline for this stuff?

[skepticalguy90]

I'd like there to be a season 2 where Lily shows up. Just in time for me to put a bullet between her eyes.

[Sox&Rocks22]

No, I think her part in the series is done. Actually when I realized she is a character that shows up later in the comic, I kinda wanted her gone only because I know she survives and 90% of the fun in this game is not knowing whos gonna bite it next. Now that characters like her, Glen and Hershal are out, it really means that we're in unpredictable territory from here on out.

[YamiRaziel]

What, Lilly shoots Lori? I think I found my new favourite character right here.

Totally! Lily's my girl! She redeems herself for killing the Governor. In my opinion Carley kinda deserved it. She always wanted to stay in the gray, not taking responsibility and decisions. Well except Lee (who's a man) there was nobody for Lily to talk to. Katjaa is with her husband, Ben is a moron, Duck is Robin...oh and I forgot. I"M BATMAN!!! :D :D
But yeah, I think Lily needed some heart to heart conversation with a woman and if Carley actually did try to help somehow, because despite being a good shot, she was pretty useless. But no, she had to stay on everybody's good side. And for the record Lily was right - it was either Carley or Ben. It wasn't me obviously because I found out, Kenny despite being an asshole had too much in stake, it couldn't have been the kids as well so... Carley or Ben. It's Ben's fault for not being a man!
It's funny how most were willing to accept Kenny offing Larry (because it was dangerous) but Lily killing Carley is soo bad. You know Larry could've actually survived but a traitor who led a group of 10-15 bandits + walkers and got poor little Robin biten, that's not a threat?
I'm glad Lily got away. She was too awesome for this group. Except Lee and Clem. I would've run with Lily and Clem and ditch the others. Prior to Carley's death I probably would've taken her with me if she asked too nicely... having 2 women is definitely better than only 1 :D
All in all, Lily is a survivor and a leader, one who had too much with stupid group. I bet most of our group will die. She is destined for greater stuff :P

[JCMcAdams84]

She might make it back by 5 but not in 4 because it'll happen days after 3 at the most. It really depends on the amount of in game time that goes by. She has a whole story arch outside of the game to go trough and if there is enough time between 4-5 she might comer back depending on what happened in her other story.

[SonnyN18]

She might come back in Season 2 if TellTale wants to follow the story of Lee Everett

[Metiphis]

Lilly crossed a sanity line. You don't get to take someone's life just because they told you off and you have empty suspicions. Sorry, she has to make her journey alone now. If they let me get rid of Kenny over the salt lick block incident I may have as well. Let me do CPR for like 20 more seconds before you get all head crushy Kenny. ... aww who can stay mad at that well maintained mustache. Get over here yah scamp you.

[YamiRaziel]

...aww who can stay mad at that well maintained mustache.

I can. Kenny made Lily cross that sanity line. Not only he killed her dad but he kept pushing her to her limits. So who's to blame really?

[Dead_Man_Walking]

to be fair she wasent aiming for carley/doug she was aiming for ben, and it was him so it was a good hunch.

In my Carley playthrough, she didn't aim for Ben. She just took Carley out, pointblank. With the circumstances of the situation, I can understand what mindset she was playing on, and at that time (Since no one knew it was Ben) I might have forgiven her sometime down the road.

If she does come back, though, she better apologize with a hot bath, a t-bone steak (Medium rare) and a bottle of booze. :D That's a good start. :P

[Metiphis]

I can. Kenny made Lily cross that sanity line. Not only he killed her dad but he kept pushing her to her limits. So who's to blame really?

Certainly not the mustache.

[Razzak]

I would like to see Lilly back even when that bitch killed my Carley and then stole my ride :)

[Valik08]

I think Lily play her role in Season 2.But this is my suggestion

[Peace&Love]

Damn it. I thought this was a bring back Carley poll so I voted no... Fuck Carley and bring back Lilly ^^

[Fishsticks]

If you left her outside the Rv then you see her run off
If you kept her either way she takes the RV.
So she is most likely still alive
What is your guys idea of if she will be back.

[tragictwist]

Well, we know what ultimately happens due to the comics... I have a small idea that she may come back, but since she has a novel coming out soon, her character may be fully explored at this point.

[Magic Emperor]

If she comes back, she won't be warmly received by me. And I don't mean Lee; I mean me.

[kirby18]

I hope not. Like I said before tt has brilliantly kept it a realistic story without eliminating plot twists. I know lilly knows where we were going to go (savanah) but its a huge stretch if she hapoens to find us randomly. In the show, comics and this far in the game there havnt been any unbelievable plot twists which is why i dont want/ I dont think well see lilly again (or for that matter carly) i would slightly lose respect if we do

[ZombieBlaster]

If she killed Ben instead of Carley and she runs off and she goes back, I might give her a second chance. But because she killed Carley, the only thing she'd be seeing is a gun on her head when she gets back

[JOHIsaac]

I liked her but she took the RV without knowing if we would make it without transporation. For me, she just left us behind. I'll not integrate her in the group again and if I am forced to I would abandoned or kill her at the first posibillity.

[YamiRaziel]

She won't come for sure. Most of you want to kill her and some of us would accept her back. Still she needs to be alive in order to her Woodbury stuff.
She might make a cameo of some sort though.

[gregularity]

I hope not. Like I said before tt has brilliantly kept it a realistic story without eliminating plot twists. I know lilly knows where we were going to go (savanah) but its a huge stretch if she hapoens to find us randomly. In the show, comics and this far in the game there havnt been any unbelievable plot twists which is why i dont want/ I dont think well see lilly again (or for that matter carly) i would slightly lose respect if we do

Of course we'll see her again. Look, I agree with you that TWD - in whichever medium - is based more solidly in realism than most other zombapocalypse stories out there, but it *is* still a story, and will therefore never be 100% realistic - and, IMO, shouldn't be. It's a work of art: you have to allow it some licence.

(Spoilers for Ep 3 ahead)

This game is full of literary tropes that abound in most fiction, which you'd never see in "real life". The most common technique is ironic foreshadowing: e.g. Duck finally gets his moment to shine with the whole Robin detective thing, then promptly dies; Clementine learns how to use a gun, and is then paralysed by fear when she's called upon to do so (we all knew she'd end up being faced with this); and on multiple occasions, we're told "X will remember that", only for "X" to die two minutes later. Like any work of art, it's entirely designed to provoke a reaction.

So, does that all fit your definition of "realistic?" It shouldn't! If we're being ultra-realistic, I don't think quite as many people would have died by now. The group would either all have died of starvation/dehydration long ago, or else they'd be living for months on end without anything interesting happening (they are, after all, in the middle of nowhere). The mundanities and minutiae of real life are thus ignored. Consider this: why doesn't anyone ever go to the toilet? Why don't we ever see anyone eating or sleeping? Wouldn't that make it even more realistic? The answer is that this is a story. Stories are crafted and there's nothing wrong with that; they sometimes deliberately approximate realism, but they can never emulate it.

Lily will be back. It's the "Chekov's gun" principle: "If, in the first act, you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise, don't put it there."

[Rock114]

Well, I don't think she survived her part in the comics because it looks pretty bleak for her and the few Woodbury soldiers still alive. I'd be shocked if she survived that, and even more shocked that she would come back to us, because she sure as hell won't survive seeing my Lee again.

[HorrorGod]

I honestly don't think she will. She has run her course in the video game.
The game, comic, and novel series are all set in the same universe. Separate from the TV show.

Lilly is in the Comic. She is part of the Governor's group.
The 2nd novel "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury" will supposedly be about Lilly and how she becomes part of his group.

I have a feeling the book may even go as far to open up with Lilly being on her own on Foot or in a RV, depending one which scenario they choose from the game.

[kirby18]

Of course we'll see her again. Look, I agree with you that TWD - in whichever medium - is based more solidly in realism than most other zombapocalypse stories out there, but it *is* still a story, and will therefore never be 100% realistic - and, IMO, shouldn't be. It's a work of art: you have to allow it some licence.

(Spoilers for Ep 3 ahead)

This game is full of literary tropes that abound in most fiction, which you'd never see in "real life". The most common technique is ironic foreshadowing: e.g. Duck finally gets his moment to shine with the whole Robin detective thing, then promptly dies; Clementine learns how to use a gun, and is then paralysed by fear when she's called upon to do so (we all knew she'd end up being faced with this); and on multiple occasions, we're told "X will remember that", only for "X" to die two minutes later. Like any work of art, it's entirely designed to provoke a reaction.

So, does that all fit your definition of "realistic?" It shouldn't! If we're being ultra-realistic, I don't think quite as many people would have died by now. The group would either all have died of starvation/dehydration long ago, or else they'd be living for months on end without anything interesting happening (they are, after all, in the middle of nowhere). The mundanities and minutiae of real life are thus ignored. Consider this: why doesn't anyone ever go to the toilet? Why don't we ever see anyone eating or sleeping? Wouldn't that make it even more realistic? The answer is that this is a story. Stories are crafted and there's nothing wrong with that; they sometimes deliberately approximate realism, but they can never emulate it.

Lily will be back. It's the "Chekov's gun" principle: "If, in the first act, you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise, don't put it there."

I get the foreshadowing but even that has been used at a modest pace. The only thing I can agree with you is with Clem and knowing she would have to use the gun almost immediately. As for the rest of your post and examples you are missing my point!

Well firstly the storyline is pretty realistic given a zombie apocalypse... there would be bandits, there would be mutiny, and there would be of course walkers. I dont intend it to be "ultra realistic", but the story is pretty realistic and that makes the game that much better. Maybe it wouldnt happen at that pace but the events that happen, could happen in reality. Where as we dont see people eating, sleeping, going to the bathroom, in all cases they have been mentioned or heard of. For example, you have to hand out food in episode 2 and basically every time you leave the motel it is for food, they each have their own rooms in the motel which impies they sleep, and Clem asks lee to go to the bathroom in episode 1 (weak example but still)

What I am trying to say is that given the unrealistic occurence that a zombie apocalypse does happen the events in the story line have been realistic without plot twists that have detracted the realism from it. With that being said I hope Lilly, Carly, Duck, Katjaa dont come back alive or as walkers because even though its a story, its a story with realistic expectations.

Also I dont read the comics but as from what I hear and watching the show, and thus far in the game, there havnt been any unbelievable plot twists. The closest thing I can think of is when the girl in the show (i forgot her name) comes through the barn as a walker...thats it. I think The walking dead prides themselves on keeping it realistic. And they have kept their word and it doesnt look like its changing. Lilly is gone for good.

[YamiRaziel]

Man, Lilly can't come back as a walker because she's alive. She survives and even appears in the comic book.
Not only that but she's apparently the main protagonist of this book
http://www.amazon.com/The-Walking-Dead-Road-Woodbury/dp/0312547749/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_y
which I just can't wait to read!

[FoxxyFox]

Like I said in a other thread we will see her in the last episode nearly the end and helping Lee & Clem by giving them "Mercy" or something along the lines.

[YamiRaziel]

You mean like they are both turning into walkers and she's the one to finish them off? That will be so awesome :D

[HorrorGod]

Like I said in a other thread we will see her in the last episode nearly the end and helping Lee & Clem by giving them "Mercy" or something along the lines.

I'm assuming you have that theory based off the trophy/achievement called "Mercy."
I have a feeling it may have something to do with Clem's Mom. Because the next trophy/achievement after that is "The March House." Which is where Clem said her parents would be.

The last 2 trophies/achievements for the game are called "Stay Close to Me" and "What Remains." Both are for completing Chapter 7 and the final episode.

I have a feeling that Lee and Clem will be on their own by the time this is all over.

[FoxxyFox]

You forgot after "The Marsh House" the "What's in the bag?" achievement... when Lilly does not comeback in this season then I wonder if we will see her in Season 2. I mean Lilly got the RV and no matter what she survived that ZA ;)

[HorrorGod]

when Lilly does not comeback in this season then I wonder if we will see her in Season 2. I mean Lilly got the RV and no matter what she survived that ZA ;)

I doubt we will see Lily come back in the second season of the video game.
I have a feeling where her story ends in episode 3, will continue on in
"The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury." In which she is supposed to be the main protagonist.

She is part of the comic series (issues #46 thru #48.); and the TellTale game, the comic, and the novels are all part of the same TWD universe.

[YamiRaziel]

Why is her dad origin different in twd wiki?
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Everett_Ray_Caul
I can't wait for "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury."
She's such an interesting character and I would gladly read/play/see more of her.

[Ninja Gaijin]

Good riddance.

[Magic Emperor]

Andy St. John: "Lil-ly! Come back and FINISH THIS!!" *waits for Lilly to return for a fight*--

Oh, sorry, I'm thinking of the wrong episode.

[thestalkinghead]

i think she takes the RV even if you leave her on the side of the road she survives long enough to follow the road and get it once the group has left with the train, i think she will be seen again but maybe not in a way we can reconcile with her or kill her

[mz3]

she come back as a walke:Dr

[HannahHomicide]

in my play through; she killed Doug in attempt to kill Ben, so I left her on the side of the road; in the cut scene, in shows a few zombies coming towards her. I kinda doubt she's coming back o.< I used to really respect her; even though she was right about Ben taking the supplies, she shouldn't have tried to kill him, he is basically just a kid >.<

[HorrorGod]

Why is her dad origin different in twd wiki?
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Everett_Ray_Caul
I can't wait for "The Walking Dead: The Road to Woodbury."
She's such an interesting character and I would gladly read/play/see more of her.

No idea.

RK has said that the Comic/Novels/and TellTale game are all part of the same TWD universe. And the Lilly in the TellTale game IS the same Lilly from the comic (she only appeared in 3 issues, but has a MAJOR role in those 3 issues.)

I'm hoping IF she is in fact the same Lilly that is supposed to be the main character of the 2nd novel, that this question is answered. (RK has said "it may or may not be the same Lilly." But he is a very secretive guy.)

But seeing as Lilly teams up with the Governor's group. And the title of the book is "The Road the Woodbury" (Woodbury being his camp.)
I can't help but think it is the same Lilly.

[YamiRaziel]

I'm positive it's the same Lilly, it's just probably her dad's origin that is messed up, which will be a huge letdown. I'm sure that it wouldn't be difficult to mention that her father was murdered by a douchebag called Kenny :D

I'm so eager to read that book :)

[HorrorGod]

I'm positive it's the same Lilly, it's just probably her dad's origin that is messed up, which will be a huge letdown. I'm sure that it wouldn't be difficult to mention that her father was murdered by a douchebag called Kenny :D

I'm so eager to read that book :)

Maybe her Dad's origin isn't messed up like we think. We see her Dad's name is Larry in the TellTale game, yet she tells others it was "Everett" in the comic.
Hopefully the novel will give more insight into this, her state of mind, et cetera.
Maybe she lied in the comic. :)

Would be awesome if the novel picks up with her being solo on foot (or in an RV) Depending on what scenario they use after she left Lee's group in the video game. I too can't wait to read it! :)

[big-augen]

RK has said that the Comic/Novels/and TellTale game are all part of the same TWD universe. And the Lilly in the TellTale game IS the same Lilly from the comic (she only appeared in 3 issues, but has a MAJOR role in those 3 issues.)

It was ONE issue and she doesn't have a major role in it, but a major impact on Rick.

[darham175]

"What's in the bag?"

Lee's Wife's head/Carley's head.

[YamiRaziel]

Maybe her Dad's origin isn't messed up like we think. We see her Dad's name is Larry in the TellTale game, yet she tells others it was "Everett" in the comic.
Hopefully the novel will give more insight into this, her state of mind, et cetera.
Maybe she lied in the comic. :)

Would be awesome if the novel picks up with her being solo on foot (or in an RV) Depending on what scenario they use after she left Lee's group in the video game. I too can't wait to read it! :)

Totally and seeing Lilly running desperately on the cover of the book... I love it.. looks so... touching :D

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120809233916/walkingdead/images/1/1c/THE_WALKING_DEAD_Road_to_W.jpg

I'm glad there are other Lilly fans around :P
About her father... my problem is that it's not only his name that is different but his origin story is different, at least according to wiki. I hope they will find a way to tie it nicely.

[darham175]

Haven't any of you ever heard of stepdads? Her biological father could have died and then she was raised by Larry from the game.

[Rock114]

Don't think we'll be seeing Lilly again in the game, as she's destined to go to Woodbury and do her thang. Plus, in her last comic appearance the situation is pretty bad for her and the few Woodbury survivors with her, so it's a reasonable guess to say that she died there. Of course, since Kirkman said he wouldn't develop her character more, I think that means TellTale could have her survive or something.

I hope she doesn't see us again, because she'll be looking at me through the scope of a rifle.

[YamiRaziel]

Their fate is uncertain but she's still listed as alive. I'm inclined to think she survived... I mean, that girl blew the governor's head off. She's a total badass when it comes to surviving and doing what needs to be done.

[townparkradio]

I registered simply to voice one small objection, not that anyone will care.

I played episode 1 at a friend's house and instantly fell in love with Lilly. She's a hard woman with just enough heart to survive in this zombie world. I bought the game to do more. Episode 2 was great, it taught me that this hard woman could understand, and admit her own mistakes, but still remain tough. She reminded me so much of someone I loved very much.

Then in Episode 3 she went insane, for reasons that don't even work within the narrative. Though I know I can't go back in time and unspend money I've already spent, I bought this series for her. Now she's gone, we're left with generic rude people, and I can't find a reason to care about the rest of the story. In some small way I envy people who own a 360 and could buy individual episodes. I would not buy Episodes 4 and 5 if I had the choice.

As it is, I am uninstalling the game and will not bother even downloading Episodes 4 and 5. There's nothing for me in them.

[townparkradio]

The worst offense? The game would not allow me to instantly kill the traitor once the traitor fessed up to me. What kind of story is this?

[Gman5852]

Well she was under a lot of stress from leading her own group, then her father gets more and more sick so she gets more worried, then her father is murdered BY a(and possibly 2) member(s) of her group, and she snaps. Makes perfect sense to me.

Plus she had to leave anyway, she is a character from the comic series and has a role to fufill there anyway. It was predicted at the start she would hate the group and leave.

[Cyreen]

Buy the book:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51e2HX7hmsL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

I understand Lilly is the protagonist.

[townparkradio]

Well she was under a lot of stress from leading her own group, then her father gets more and more sick so she gets more worried, then her father is murdered BY a(and possibly 2) member(s) of her group, and she snaps. Makes perfect sense to me.

Plus she had to leave anyway, she is a character from the comic series and has a role to fufill there anyway. It was predicted at the start she would hate the group and leave.

I know nothing about this series. I went into this fresh and new. You saw her through different eyes than I did. I also do not understand why killing Kenny on the spot was not an option. Kenny murdered a living human being. No matter what choices you make, Larry never tries to kill Duck. Though he talked a big game, he waited to see if there was an actual bite.

Kenny flatout murdered.

[townparkradio]

Buy the book:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51e2HX7hmsL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

I understand Lilly is the protagonist.

I did some research. Not sure it's the same Lilly. Everett and Larry aren't even remotely similar names.

[Kiel555]

Wow, you liked Lilly from the beginning...that's great. I said some bad things to her that I wish now I could take back when we first met at the pharmacy (I know I can just replay the game but I don't do that) and wish that I had done more to support her. I only started to side with her when Kenny said I could not be neutral and must choose a side. I did and have no regrets as Lilly became my best friend on par with Carley.

Lilly will be sorely missed. Maybe lightning can strike twice and TTG will introduce a character that we will like as much as Lilly in e4 or e5 or even next season.

Welcome to the forum by the way.

[townparkradio]

Wow, you liked Lilly from the beginning...that's great. I said some bad things to her that I wish now I could take back when we first met at the pharmacy (I know I can just replay the game but I don't do that) and wish that I had done more to support her. I only started to side with her when Kenny said I could not be neutral and must choose a side. I did and have no regrets as Lilly became my best friend on par with Carley.

Lilly will be sorely missed. Maybe lightning can strike twice and TTG will introduce a character that we will like as much as Lilly in e4 or e5 or even next season.

Welcome to the forum by the way.

Thanks. Not likely to stay long.

I won't be downloading episodes 4 or 5.

[townparkradio]

And I obviously won't be buying any "Next Season" either.

[Kiel555]

I did some research. Not sure it's the same Lilly. Everett and Larry aren't even remotely similar names.

I've got the book on preorder. Check back in October and I'll let you know if this is the same Lilly. I have my doubts as well but if it is....I want to read more (even if it's not should be a good story).

[John Schutze]

And I obviously won't be buying any "Next Season" either.

Hey, don't do it.
Maybe Lilly can come back.......or not....who knows?

[Merc]

I know nothing about this series. I went into this fresh and new. You saw her through different eyes than I did. I also do not understand why killing Kenny on the spot was not an option. Kenny murdered a living human being. No matter what choices you make, Larry never tries to kill Duck. Though he talked a big game, he waited to see if there was an actual bite.

Kenny flatout murdered.

Kenny protected his own. They didn't know how fast people turn--and there's no way you could come back from cardiac arrest like that WITHOUT some medical equipment. He did exactly what I would have done in that situation, if it meant making sure the kids were safe.

[kirby18]

I registered simply to voice one small objection, not that anyone will care.

I played episode 1 at a friend's house and instantly fell in love with Lilly. She's a hard woman with just enough heart to survive in this zombie world. I bought the game to do more. Episode 2 was great, it taught me that this hard woman could understand, and admit her own mistakes, but still remain tough. She reminded me so much of someone I loved very much.

Then in Episode 3 she went insane, for reasons that don't even work within the narrative. Though I know I can't go back in time and unspend money I've already spent, I bought this series for her. Now she's gone, we're left with generic rude people, and I can't find a reason to care about the rest of the story. In some small way I envy people who own a 360 and could buy individual episodes. I would not buy Episodes 4 and 5 if I had the choice.

As it is, I am uninstalling the game and will not bother even downloading Episodes 4 and 5. There's nothing for me in them.

Geez, grow up dude. The game is rated M for a reason. Stop acting like a baby because a video game character you liked left. I hope you see how utterly rediculous that sounds.

Btw I have no clue what you are talking about, the writing and lilly were excelently developed and its obvious why she lost control. No point to just create an account to hate a game for a very stupid reason. If the game didnt work, wont load, didnt save, etc than you might be able to complain but because tt wrote it the way you didnt dont get your panties in a bunch.

[townparkradio]

Geez, grow up dude. The game is rated M for a reason. Stop acting like a baby because a video game character you liked left. I hope you see how utterly rediculous that sounds.

Btw I have no clue what you are talking about, the writing and lilly were excelently developed and its obvious why she lost control. No point to just create an account to hate a game for a very stupid reason. If the game didnt work, wont load, didnt save, etc than you might be able to complain but because tt wrote it the way you didnt dont get your panties in a bunch.

You reason and discuss like an eleven year old. You also seem to have no idea what mature and intelligent story-boarding is about. I'll be looking for an ignore feature in case I do stick around here a bit.

[ADomenick91092]

Then in Episode 3 she went insane, for reasons that don't even work within the narrative.

You're kidding, right? She wasn't the most stable of characters before her father's head was smashed in right in front of her, and you find her snapping to be far fetched?

[kirby18]

You reason and discuss like an eleven year old. You also seem to have no idea what mature and intelligent story-boarding is about. I'll be looking for an ignore feature in case I do stick around here a bit.

haha im freakin dying dude thanks for making my day

Your getting worked up over a freakin character in a game !! :D :D and Im the eleven year old. Typical response for a kid below the age of 15. Oh and I have no clue about intelligent story boarding??? Ill be the first one to say I dont, but you do? The response to the story has been overwhelmingly positive. And was that supposed to be an insult .. holy shit dude u r funny.

I just tell it as it is. Please reply. PLLLLEEAASSSEEE!!!!

[townparkradio]

Kenny protected his own. They didn't know how fast people turn--and there's no way you could come back from cardiac arrest like that WITHOUT some medical equipment.

You might wish to learn something about heart conditions sometime. Kenny's actions in the real world would have earned him a manslaughter conviction at the bare minimum. A person in cardiac arrest does not move or act like that. Angina, even severe, is not "cardiac arrest". A vasodilator is ideal in even the slightest of attacks, but a person has decent recovery chances of even a major attack with nothing but relaxation. The heart CAN fail due to angina (and likely one day will) but that was not what heart failure looks like.

A person in acute heart failure (cardiac arrest) turns red, swells up like a balloon, and coughs up pink foam.

Kenny murdered Larry, and was eager to do it.

[Gman5852]

I did some research. Not sure it's the same Lilly. Everett and Larry aren't even remotely similar names.

Telltale originally said that the Lilly ingame IS that Lilly, but apparantly didn't realise that Kirkman gave Lilly a dad in that book. Also note that Everett is Lee's last name.

[townparkradio]

You're kidding, right? She wasn't the most stable of characters before her father's head was smashed in right in front of her, and you find her snapping to be far fetched?

As I did not come into this expecting her to be some lunatic from "later in the series" I got the chance to take her at face value. The woman presented in episodes 1 and two would be alive long after most of us had succumbed to our own stupidity, and would likely be leading a large group. Contrary to popular belief from cartoons and weekly TV shows, long term military service (like the lead of a mechanic's pool has likely had) turns out very few imbeciles.

[townparkradio]

Telltale originally said that the Lilly ingame IS that Lilly, but apparantly didn't realise that Kirkman gave Lilly a dad in that book. Also note that Everett is Lee's last name.

That's a shame. That being the case, I am not likely to pick up the comic book, given the lunatic that the magical canon fairies made her into for Episode 3 is probably the same lunatic she is in that comic book.

[Cooperal]

"I'm not playing because the story didn't go the way I wanted it"

Fair enough. Moving on.

[townparkradio]

I said my piece, ran into some preexisting canon, medical ignorance, and immature discussion, a fun time was had by all. Take care, ya'all.

[townparkradio]

"I'm not playing because the story didn't go the way I wanted it"

Fair enough. Moving on.

Actually what I said was the story makes no sense. Your comment added nothing at all, beyond an attempt to prop up your ego at the expense of others. Much like comments you make in real life, I imagine.

[ADomenick91092]

You might wish to learn something about heart conditions sometime. Kenny's actions in the real world would have earned him a manslaughter conviction at the bare minimum. A person in cardiac arrest does not move or act like that. Angina, even severe, is not "cardiac arrest". A vasodilator is ideal in even the slightest of attacks, but a person has decent recovery chances of even a major attack with nothing but relaxation. The heart CAN fail due to angina (and likely one day will) but that was not what heart failure looks like.

A person in acute heart failure (cardiac arrest) turns red, swells up like a balloon, and coughs up pink foam.

Kenny murdered Larry, and was eager to do it.

It really doesn't matter what you want to call it. I'm one of those who tried to help Lilly resuscitate Larry, but what Kenny did was likely in their best interest. It only took that teacher in the beginning of episode 2, what, a minute to turn after he died?

Imagine what would have happened if Larry turned before Kenny had smashed his head in. Keep in mind that Larry was somewhere around 6'4 and 250-300 lbs.

[Gman5852]

That's a shame. That being the case, I am not likely to pick up the comic book, given the lunatic that the magical canon fairies made her into for Episode 3 is probably the same lunatic she is in that comic book.

I so want to spoil what happens to her right now. I'll put it in spoilers if you really want to know what she does in the comics.

In the comics, there is a horrible, horrible character called "the governor" this guy is a murderor, rapist, kidnapper, etc... and runs an entire town without anyone knowing what he does to other groups. Lilly works for the governor oblivious as well. He declares war on the main group of the comics(Rick being that groups leader), and Lilly is among the soldiers that fight with the governor. The governor flat out wins the fight, and slaughters half the cast single handedly, of which, was Rick's wife and newborn daughter... who Lilly murdered herself. She didn't know about the baby, and realises who the governor truly is and kills him in cold blood, then she sees she is out of ammo and a group of walkers start to get near. It is unknown if she is alive or not

[ADomenick91092]

As I did not come into this expecting her to be some lunatic from "later in the series" I got the chance to take her at face value. The woman presented in episodes 1 and two would be alive long after most of us had succumbed to our own stupidity, and would likely be leading a large group. Contrary to popular belief from cartoons and weekly TV shows, long term military service (like the lead of a mechanic's pool has likely had) turns out very few imbeciles.

Nobody went in expecting her to turn into anything. Nobody said she was an imbecile, far from it actually, but her being ex-military doesn't mean that she can't crack under pressure eventually. You keep saying that her snapping and killing Carley doesn't make sense, but it does.

[kirby18]

Actually what I said was the story makes no sense. Your comment added nothing at all, beyond an attempt to prop up your ego at the expense of others. Much like comments you make in real life, I imagine.

Alrite you said youll stop posting, stop trying to boost your ego and have "the last word" we understand what you said. And we have stated our opinions. Bye.

Also, not to egg you on here which I know I will do, but I honestly think you have a slight disability if you dont understand the story or think the story doesnt make sense. You can make an argument that its fictional and not realistic enough, but regardless the story makes sense.

And are we wrong to say that to sum up what you are saying based on your original post is that exactly:

"I dont like what happened in the game, so Im stop playing it"

Because the truth is that is 100% what you are saying.

[HorrorGod]

It was ONE issue and she doesn't have a major role in it, but a major impact on Rick.

She appears in 3 issues. Know your facts.
And when I say a major role, I mean of course the impact she has on Rick.... And what she does afterwards.

[DreadMagus]

Oh wow, a book about Lilly's time between the game and comic?

Cool. :)

[Zeruis]

It would be nice to explore her character after what happened after the prison attack. Have one last "angry Lee" moment with her.

[Lars80]

You might wish to learn something about heart conditions sometime. Kenny's actions in the real world would have earned him a manslaughter conviction at the bare minimum. A person in cardiac arrest does not move or act like that. Angina, even severe, is not "cardiac arrest". A vasodilator is ideal in even the slightest of attacks, but a person has decent recovery chances of even a major attack with nothing but relaxation. The heart CAN fail due to angina (and likely one day will) but that was not what heart failure looks like.

A person in acute heart failure (cardiac arrest) turns red, swells up like a balloon, and coughs up pink foam.

Kenny murdered Larry, and was eager to do it.

You can fall over and die from infarction in seconds. Depends how severe it is and where it is located in the heart.
One thing is for sure, when Larry dropped dead, was unconcious and not breathing. He was gone. CPR would have have been enough to bring him back.

[StrawberryRainPop]

If you left her outside the Rv then you see her run off
If you kept her either way she takes the RV.
So she is most likely still alive
What is your guys idea of if she will be back.

i hope she does. I actually tried to be civil with her even when she took the RV.

What happens if you take the RV with her?

[big-augen]

She appears in 3 issues. Know your facts.
And when I say a major role, I mean of course the impact she has on Rick.... And what she does afterwards.

Tell me he issue numbers, please.

EDIT: Oh boy, I just found her on a panel of issue #46. You can see her in the background. OK, that makes TWO issues, mate. She isn't in issue #47. Last time we see her is in issue #48.

However, she has a major impact in only ONE issue.

[chaz99]

Why are parts of the last message blacked out?

[YamiRaziel]

Damn it. I thought this was a bring back Carley poll so I voted no... Fuck Carley and bring back Lilly ^^

She's the leader this group deserves, but not the one it needs right now :p

[HorrorGod]

Tell me he issue numbers, please.

EDIT: Oh boy, I just found her on a panel of issue #46. You can see her in the background. OK, that makes TWO issues, mate. She isn't in issue #47. Last time we see her is in issue #48.

However, she has a major impact in only ONE issue.

Thank you for checking. Looks like we were both wrong. :)

[Zeruis]

Nope. It's time for her to ruin Rick's life now.

[YamiRaziel]

Nope. It's time for her to ruin Rick's life now.

and also rid the world of one of the sickest dictators alive. It was a necessary evil.
Plus she was manipulated into thinking Rick's group were the enemy. I can't get why people blame her for that.

[Freeze]

I always hated Lilly , She was like Shane in the TV show except she was obsessed with power as opposed to Lori. She always had to be running things. I hope she doesn't come back but if she does it will be in Season 2 after she escapes the prison and decides Woodbury isn't safe.

[V1V4L4]

Lilly was left to a very open ended fate, i won't say what happened because more people need to read the comics and see what happens.
And, without you know who Woodbury would be safe, right?

[YamiRaziel]

I always hated Lilly , She was like Shane in the TV show except she was obsessed with power as opposed to Lori. She always had to be running things. I hope she doesn't come back but if she does it will be in Season 2 after she escapes the prison and decides Woodbury isn't safe.

She's nothing like Shane in the TV show...
Shane is obsessed over his friend's wife and does not give a fu** for the group (except maybe for Carl).
Lilly might be headstrong but she does care for the group. She deals with the shit no one else bothers to. To be honest most of those in the group look a bit dumb. In episode 2 like half the party complained that they won't receive food. I mean c'mon... it's obvious there's not enough food for everybody. Food won't magically appear (just as Carley won't magically return :p). Lol, I'm such a horrible person for saying things like that.
Lilly never betrayed my Lee and though she killed Carley/Doug she though she was doing what was right at the time. There was a traitor and it needed to be dealt with. Plus she has been through a lot since ep 2.
Shane hasn't gone through anything and he's a cop. He's supposed to be mentally healthy and not snap without strong external motivators.

[TF_Havens]

i would f**k her world up, i would light that bitch up like a freaking chrismax tree, after i'm done with her there won't be nothing left, so.....no

[N7.]

Hi, I think Lilly is a real nice character!

I really like her, I would like to see her in the next Episode

she hasn't a kind heart but she could be a real worthly character

[Maugly]

If she'll show up in the next episode, can I personally feed her to walkers?

[Xarne]

/looks at responses
lol holy cow talk about water on a grease fire

[Xarne]

Then in Episode 3 she went insane, for reasons that don't even work within the narrative. .

Did you miss the part where Kenny drops 45lbs of salt lick onto her father's head after she begged him not to? Not the best way to see your Dad go out, especially by your current nemesis. While being held captive by cannibals. During a Zombie Apocalypse

[Rodia]

I voted yes. That ought to spice things up.

[V1V4L4]

Did you miss the part where Kenny drops 45lbs of salt lick onto her father's head after she begged him not to? Not the best way to see your Dad go out, especially by your current nemesis. While being held captive by cannibals. During a Zombie Apocalypse

Not to mention that he may have been alive the whole time, but fuck it i'm Kenny and i'm a hypocrite.
She may not of had the biggest heart or cared for Kenny but at least she took care of him and his family no matter how they(kenny) felt about her.

[Zombies are Awesome!]

Fuck no! that crazy bitch can go to hell!. if i see her again i will shoot first and ask questions later

[SonnyN18]

She's nothing like Shane in the TV show...
Shane is obsessed over his friend's wife and does not give a fu** for the group (except maybe for Carl).
Lilly might be headstrong but she does care for the group. She deals with the shit no one else bothers to. To be honest most of those in the group look a bit dumb. In episode 2 like half the party complained that they won't receive food. I mean c'mon... it's obvious there's not enough food for everybody. Food won't magically appear (just as Carley won't magically return :p). Lol, I'm such a horrible person for saying things like that.
Lilly never betrayed my Lee and though she killed Carley/Doug she though she was doing what was right at the time. There was a traitor and it needed to be dealt with. Plus she has been through a lot since ep 2.
Shane hasn't gone through anything and he's a cop. He's supposed to be mentally healthy and not snap without strong external motivators.

She didn't have to kill someone just to get the job done

[RafaelBrasileiro]

fuck no! That crazy bitch can go to hell!. If i see her again i will shoot first and ask questions later]
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[DreadMagus]

This season?

Not just no, but hell no.

Next season.... sure.

[Freeze]

and also rid the world of one of the sickest dictators alive. It was a necessary evil.
Plus she was manipulated into thinking Rick's group were the enemy. I can't get why people blame her for that.

They probably blame her cause she was the one who shot Lori? Lol. Did it even matter if the Governor died after they captured the Prison? Not like they could've stayed there cause of the fences. He was bound to be a walkers meal along with the rest of his gang. Rip Lilly :( you crazy ass bitch.

[Freeze]

She's nothing like Shane in the TV show...
Shane is obsessed over his friend's wife and does not give a fu** for the group (except maybe for Carl).
Lilly might be headstrong but she does care for the group. She deals with the shit no one else bothers to. To be honest most of those in the group look a bit dumb. In episode 2 like half the party complained that they won't receive food. I mean c'mon... it's obvious there's not enough food for everybody. Food won't magically appear (just as Carley won't magically return :p). Lol, I'm such a horrible person for saying things like that.
Lilly never betrayed my Lee and though she killed Carley/Doug she though she was doing what was right at the time. There was a traitor and it needed to be dealt with. Plus she has been through a lot since ep 2.
Shane hasn't gone through anything and he's a cop. He's supposed to be mentally healthy and not snap without strong external motivators.

Never betrayed Lee? Lol. I'm done.

[Cyreen]

Lilly might be headstrong but she does care for the group. She deals with the shit no one else bothers to.

She took on those responsibilities in order to have control.

...she killed Carley/Doug she though she was doing what was right at the time. There was a traitor and it needed to be dealt with.

She wasn't doing anyone any favors when she pulled that trigger. That was all about Lilly's will and her perceived loss of power.

i would f**k her world up, i would light that bitch up like a freaking chrismax tree, after i'm done with her there won't be nothing left, so.....no

I kinda like this one, colorfully descriptive. :)

[Xarne]

Lily is not ever coming back, most likely halfway to Woodbury by now

[Rock114]

Lilly DID back her father up for throwing a kid out to be eaten by a bunch of dead folks. Only because it was her father you say? That makes it even worse. But I don't see how people can blame her for what she did at the prison, because she and EVERY other single person in Woodbury was MANIPULATED into thinking that Rick's group was evil. And she took out the governor. She gets props for that.

She took out Carley for no reason: She loses some of said props.
Was willing to let me die outside the pharmacy: Loses slightly more props.
Would let Larry reanimate and kill everyone in the meat locker, including Clem: Loses many props.
Steals RV: Gains props. (crappy radiator, can't go far)
Has awesome voice actress in the game. Love it when she screams after Larry gets crushified (just the way she did it so well, i'm not THAT bad of a person): Gains more props.
Leaves me to die at the Dairy: Understandable, props unaffected.

She currently has -4 props in my game. Kenny has 13, Clem has ∞, and Larry has -6,486.

[YamiRaziel]

Lilly DID back her father up for throwing a kid out to be eaten by a bunch of dead folks. Only because it was her father you say? That makes it even worse. But I don't see how people can blame her for what she did at the prison, because she and EVERY other single person in Woodbury was MANIPULATED into thinking that Rick's group was evil. And she took out the governor. She gets props for that.

She took out Carley for no reason: She loses some of said props.
Was willing to let me die outside the pharmacy: Loses slightly more props.
Would let Larry reanimate and kill everyone in the meat locker, including Clem: Loses many props.
Steals RV: Gains props. (crappy radiator, can't go far)
Has awesome voice actress in the game. Love it when she screams after Larry gets crushified (just the way she did it so well, i'm not THAT bad of a person): Gains more props.
Leaves me to die at the Dairy: Understandable, props unaffected.

She currently has -4 props in my game. Kenny has 13, Clem has ∞, and Larry has -6,486.

You have to keep in mind that many of those change depending how you play the game. In my game Kenny is more -number than anyone could possible be :)

[ashesandwine]

I am so sick of people defending Lilly by saying she snapped under pressure. What if she did. So what? Why should I forgive her just because she snapped? All I care about is that she killed an innocent over a hunch and that victim was a good friend of mine. Telltale needs to bring her back so I can put a bullet through her head.

[YamiRaziel]

I am so sick of people defending Lilly by saying she snapped under pressure. What if she did. So what? Why should I forgive her just because she snapped? All I care about is that she killed an innocent over a hunch and that victim was a good friend of mine. Telltale needs to bring her back so I can put a bullet through her head.

Don't be ridiculous. You're sick of people defending Lilly? How many people, except me, are doing that? Five? Six?
If you do put a bullet through her head, you won't be very different than her and if you hate her that much... why would you wanna be like her?

[Scropps]

So Lilly is headstrong yet gets easily manipulated by the Governor. I just can't see how that flows.

[kgruscho]

Lilly's actions with Carley around are WAY more unhinged than with Doug, making it in my mind a practically different character.

Lilly in Doug world, has modestly founded but ultimately correct suspicions that Ben was working with the Bandits behind the group's back. She tries to be judge, jury, and executioner, then Doug gets in the crossfire and she realizes how bad she just got.

Lilly in Carley world, has completely unfounded suspicion of Carley and intentionally kills Carley in the heat of an argument. She basically justifies it after that.

so Lilly in Carley world is undeniably the worst killer/person in the group so far. Lilly in Doug world is working for the group but taking the extreme of what she knows to be right. She is being a bit hypocritical because she kills the living with far less rationale than Kenny killing the maybe-living, but she is just forcing the group to protect themselves from Ben's two-faced cowardess.

Ben in Carley world practically lets Carley get killed in hopes of living, which makes him real scum. Whereas in Doug world, he was just saving his own ass without letting anyone take the fall. Frankly, Ben probably saved the group by bargaining with bandits for a bit.

[YamiRaziel]

kgruscho, I wouldn't call it an unfounded suspicion. Carley is a suspect and she acts the way that an innocent probably won't act. Just because you all like her and know that it isn't her doesn't make her less of a suspect.

[Mr.Happy]

If both Lee and Lilly survive to season 2, telltale should make Lilly the only available romance option for Lee. Just be sure to include lots of guilt ridden sex, violent outbursts and a nice gradual descent to insanity, like Lilly starting to treat Lee as some sort of replacement "daddy".

Or barring that, add a romance option where you get hurt because the romance itself, not the world around it, is fucked up. Would be nice to actually play a game where romantic relationships are, at least potentially, stuff of horrors, like the rest of the world.

[skepticalguy90]

kgruscho, I wouldn't call it an unfounded suspicion. Carley is a suspect and she acts the way that an innocent probably won't act. Just because you all like her and know that it isn't her doesn't make her less of a suspect.

Yeah, you're completely guilty when you deny being guilty and defend other people from unjustified accusations (unjustified in that Lily had no proof it was Ben). You don't see the police shoot a suspect in the face, just because they have a hunch about that person. Lily fell off the deep end and murdered an innocent person.

[bazenji]

She killed my best friend AND she also shot Doug. She should be glad we left her with her shoes so she could run from the walkers.

[YamiRaziel]

She killed my best friend AND she also shot Doug. She should be glad we left her with her shoes so she could run from the walkers.

With that attitude you should be glad she didn't break your neck :p

[Carley]

She's sittin' pretty in Woodbury my friend.

[YamiRaziel]

So Lilly is headstrong yet gets easily manipulated by the Governor. I just can't see how that flows.

Apparently you're not familiar enough with the Governor...

[DreadMagus]

Has anything been written about what happens to her after.... her comic appearance?

[YamiRaziel]

Has anything been written about what happens to her after.... her comic appearance?

I think that Kirkman purposefully left it ambiguous. He said he's done with the Prison arc although Lilly is still listed as alive if I'm not mistaken. His reluctance to weave Lilly back to comic book TWD doesn't mean that other medias and parties (game for example) won't continue her story.

[DreadMagus]

That's what I was hoping to hear.... Lilly for SEASON 2!!! Come on, TTG, you know you wanna!

[zubie]

In my opinion Carley kinda deserved it. She always wanted to stay in the gray, not taking responsibility and decisions.

da fuq?

So deciding not to take sides, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, meant she deserved getting her face blown off? Nevermind while she had her head turned.

You don't have to like Carley but to say she somehow deserved what she got boggles the mind. She never caused tension within the group and was wrongly accused of stealing supplies. Really, all she did was pick a bad time to ream out Lilly.

But yes, Lilly is a brilliantly written character and it would be cool to see her return sometime.

[YamiRaziel]

da fuq?

So deciding not to take sides, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, meant she deserved getting her face blown off? Nevermind while she had her head turned.

You don't have to like Carley but to say she somehow deserved what she got boggles the mind. She never caused tension within the group and was wrongly accused of stealing supplies. Really, all she did was pick a bad time to ream out Lilly.

But yes, Lilly is a brilliantly written character and it would be cool to see her return sometime.

What I meant was that in my opinion if a person does not participate in though choices regarding the group, well he can't throw his vote all of a sudden and demand that people take it seriously. I don't think I'm phrasing it very well but what I mean is that Carley never tried to take responsibility for the bad decision the group made. Now of all a sudden she tries to prevent the investigation of the traitor where actually she's one of the main suspects. Had she not been suspected she would probably do nothing once again.
Instead of proving her innocence she starts talking back and playing the "don't tell me what to do, I'm awesome card".
Yeah, it was kinda like she was asking Lilly to do something extreme.

As for Lilly coming back in season 1 or 2... I'm not sure they'll do it. Most of the players are still pretty pissed off with her and unless they allow us to kill her, I doubt fans will accept it as possible scenario. I would definitely love to see more of her.

[Luigi01080]

I had done for her in previous episodes, but doubt lily will return after stealing the rv.

[Are You Sewious]

The new crew really doesn't appeal to me, besides Clementine I feel nothing to the others. Kenny has changed and won't be the same. Chuck's wierd and Christa doesn't bother me and why hasn't Ben died? Although I think Omid's a funny and breath of fresh air to the group. Lilly will regain that old vibe a little

[Rock114]

I don't hold out much hope of Lilly survivng her scene in the comic, but she still could. I'd like to know if she did or not, but that's about the extent of it. I feel that with a book, and being a major character in the game, she's run her course. Her coming back in season 1 would take some pretty magical writing I think, with the group covering so much distance so fast while she went in the opposite direction. I'd prefer to just let Lilly be, and have the writers not take a chance at screwing up her awesome character.

[Snake Liquid]

Well, when I said Lilly, that I will go with her, before she left me in the dust, the game said that "Lilly will remember that".

Kinda the same way it says "Carley will remember that" about three seconds before she gets her head blown off?

Lilly's gone. She's gone to Woodbury. She's an official comic book character, so that's canon confirmed.

BTW, I love your user name. Fallout 3 is fantastic.

[aDeadManWonderland]

to be fair she wasent aiming for carley/doug she was aiming for ben, and it was him so it was a good hunch.

Only if you had Doug. She aimed for Carley and shot her.

Sucks we cant kill Lilly because of the comics, it'd be nice to at least kill Ben.

[Viser]

That's what I was hoping to hear.... Lilly for SEASON 2!!! Come on, TTG, you know you wanna!

You know, that would actually be pretty cool. If you found her after she took over the prison with the rest of the survivors from Woodbury, she wouldn't have canon-protection and could die like everyone else.

[YamiRaziel]

Do you want her as protagonist or an NPC?

P.S If they ever decide to bring Lilly back in the comic book I would like to her to meet Rick. They are both very, very similar and have done terrible things. However, the prison scene would be something that would make their relationship quite interesting.

As for those of you who wonder if Lilly survived or not, well if there's someone who would survive that comic book scenes, it's probably her.

[thestalkinghead]

kgruscho, I wouldn't call it an unfounded suspicion. Carley is a suspect and she acts the way that an innocent probably won't act. Just because you all like her and know that it isn't her doesn't make her less of a suspect.

just because you didn't like her and wanted a lilly & Lee relationship, doesn't make her suspicious, to me the hinted relationship between Lee and Carley implied trust, and innocent people would defiantly defend other people because they know they are innocent and therefore wouldn't have any reason to keep quiet

[YamiRaziel]

just because you didn't like her and wanted a lilly & Lee relationship, doesn't make her suspicious, to me the hinted relationship between Lee and Carley implied trust, and innocent people would defiantly defend other people because they know they are innocent and therefore wouldn't have any reason to keep quiet

I've never said I wanted a Lilly & Lee relationship. I'm glad with what I have in the game. Just because you're all so desperate for a Lee/Carley relationship doesn't mean that we all are.

Hinted relationship implies trust? Yeah, because women have never seduces men just to accomplish their ulterior motives...

[thestalkinghead]

I've never said I wanted a Lilly & Lee relationship. I'm glad with what I have in the game. Just because you're all so desperate for a Lee/Carley relationship doesn't mean that we all are.

Hinted relationship implies trust? Yeah, because women have never seduces men just to accomplish their ulterior motives...

i didn't really care for any relationship aspect of the game, but you are so pro lilly it's unbelievable.

that scene with Carley didn't mean that the second she heard about the missing supplies she decided to seduce Lee, it was saying that there relationship had been building up over the months and we were seeing the start of it getting more serious.

anyway i was more of a Doug (not in that way :) ) fan and i just had a carley save for variety.

[YamiRaziel]

i didn't really care for any relationship aspect of the game, but you are so pro lilly it's unbelievable.

that scene with Carley didn't mean that the second she heard about the missing supplies she decided to seduce Lee, it was saying that there relationship had been building up over the months and we were seeing the start of it getting more serious.

anyway i was more of a Doug (not in that way :) ) fan and i just had a carley save for variety.

Yeah, I'm pro-Lilly but that doesn't mean I'm desperate for a romance. I just like Lilly's character.

As for stealing the supplies, you can't know for how long she've been in camp bandits. What is the best way to cover your betrayals? Side with the leader of course, he's calling the shots and he would never suspect you, especially if you're romantically involved.

Apparently it wasn't true, but it looked like a plausible theory.

[FarmerJoe]

So Lilly is headstrong yet gets easily manipulated by the Governor. I just can't see how that flows.

Maybe because her former group didn't give her the time,support and understanding she needed after suffering such a traumatic loss.Trauma can affect even the strongest of minds. Someone like the Governor would of delighted in taking advantage of such a fragile state of mind she must of suffered from when she arrives at Woodbury.The grief and guilt she must of felt after the prior events of her time in her former group could of clouded her judgment to his real character. Once she realise who he truly is and how he has been manipulating them all along, she is the one to finally stand up to him and thus puts an end to his evil.

[YamiRaziel]

Maybe because her former group didn't give her the time,support and understanding she needed after suffering such a traumatic loss.Trauma can affect even the strongest of minds. Someone like the Governor would of delighted in taking advantage of such a fragile state of mind she must of suffered from when she arrives at Woodbury.The grief and guilt she must of felt after the prior events of her time in her former group could of clouded her judgment to his real character. Once she realise who he truly is and how he has been manipulating them all along, she is the one to finally stand up to him and thus puts an end to his evil.

This is the second time there is nothing for me to say after your post! Bravo, nicely said!

[FarmerJoe]

This is the second time there is nothing for me to say after your post! Bravo, nicely said!

Thank you.
I really like Lilly but can also understand why a lot of people may hate her now after what she did. Personally she was the best leader for the group but some members didn't really deserve her. Some may think of her as a mad bitch but if you decide to treat her like shit why are you so surprised that she returns the favour?

My first play through I went with my gut instincts and for me Lilly made the more sense.
Playing my silent and indecisive Lee afterwards only confirmed my respect for her. In the meat locker Kenny just shoves Lee to the ground and calls him fucking useless while Lilly will later come to the aid of Lee twice,even if Lee didn't even try to help her dad.
This showed to me who was truly the better and bigger person.
I'll miss her.

[YamiRaziel]

Thank you.
I really like Lilly but can also understand why a lot of people may hate her now after what she did. Personally she was the best leader for the group but some members didn't really deserve her. Some may think of her as a mad bitch but if you decide to treat her like shit why are you so surprised that she returns the favour?

My first play through I went with my gut instincts and for me Lilly made the more sense.
Playing my silent and indecisive Lee afterwards only confirmed my respect for her. In the meat locker Kenny just shoves Lee to the ground and calls him fucking useless while Lilly will later come to the aid of Lee twice,even if Lee didn't even try to help her dad.
This showed to me who was truly the better and bigger person.
I'll miss her.

Man, you are reading my mind! :D

[xXNinjaScoreXx]

I saved Doug, So I can't really blame Lilly for trying to shoot Ben but accidentally shooting Doug, she didn't mean to shoot Doug, and I wanted Ben to die, so what I want is maybe in Episode 4 or 5, you can see Lilly either with the RV (If you took her with the group) or maybe at a camp that she made (Making her stay behind) But either way I want to see her, but not to join the group again.

[Xarne]

Do you want her as protagonist or an NPC?

P.S If they ever decide to bring Lilly back in the comic book I would like to her to meet Rick. They are both very, very similar and have done terrible things. However, the prison scene would be something that would make their relationship quite interesting.

As for those of you who wonder if Lilly survived or not, well if there's someone who would survive that comic book scenes, it's probably her.

Im not Kirkman, but odds are he would brain her the second he made the connection between her role and how the prison story arc went down.
If not him, DEFINITELY Carl

[Xarne]

Personally she was the best leader for the group but some members didn't really deserve her.

This. Some people would rather die than survive if survival means 'doing meany things.'

[YamiRaziel]

Im not Kirkman, but odds are he would brain her the second he made the connection between her role and how the prison story arc went down.
If not him, DEFINITELY Carl

Carl thinks he's tough but he is nothing if Rick's not there. Imagine if Kirkman kills Rick :D

[Xarne]

Carl thinks he's tough but he is nothing if Rick's not there. Imagine if Kirkman kills Rick :D

Judging on his current progress; his reaction would be something to the effect of
'That stump made him a weak link anyway'

Besides, the kid is capable of killing multiple walkers on his own. He'll definitely be a survivor but wont have a shred of humanity left in him by the time he reaches Rick's age

[YamiRaziel]

He'll be the new Governor...

[Xarne]

He'll be the new Governor...

Hmmm the Governor was charismatic; his people saw him as an upstanding citizen and he was able to convince them Ricks group was the new 'Axis of Evil'
but behind closed doors he was depraved and disgusting.

I think Carl would be the exact opposite. Terminator exterior and with a calculating mind on people's strengths and weakness without taking a shred of compassion into his frame of thought, but a clear (albeit black and white)sense of right and wrong going on inside his head