View Full Version : The New Team Sucks????
AceStarr
09/04/2012, 09:41 pm
Really the New Team Chuck,Omid,Christa
Could you really survive a zombie apoc with em???
I have to say i dont think so
Lee might wanna break off with Kenny and Clem and get a boat to a Island lol
DreadMagus
09/04/2012, 09:44 pm
I think Christa's got her act together. Chuck seems wise, but I don't trust him. Omid... well... every team needs a mascot.
Zombies are Awesome!
09/04/2012, 09:44 pm
Hell no they are awful lol Christa is a bitch, Omid now has a bad leg, and Chuck is a worthless hobo :p
Xarne
09/04/2012, 09:49 pm
Lets see what we've got here:
Lee is still Lee, Clem is still Clem
Kenny, we can probably stick a fork in him
Ben, I hope Kenny sticks a (pitch)fork in him
Chuck is old n kinda scary
Meat Shields #1 and #2...ya the future's not lookin so bright :(
BrokenNintendo
09/04/2012, 09:49 pm
I'm calling it now, Chuck is going to be either a badass or a wise secondary/primary leader. I don't think he's prone to making rash or dangerous decisions. Whether or not he was a hobo has no baring in an apocalyptic world. Also, Christa seems solid and although overbearing she means well. I see Omid as character very akin to Glenn.
BrokenNintendo
09/04/2012, 09:52 pm
Also take into account that Chuck has survived alone for the first 3 1/2 months of the apocalypse and Christa and Omid have done it together. If the comic has taught me anything, the smaller the group of the survivors and the longer they've lasted, the more dangerous/batshit crazy they are.
V1V4L4
09/04/2012, 09:53 pm
I'm calling it now, Chuck is going to be either a badass or a wise secondary/primary leader. I don't think he's prone to making rash or dangerous decisions. Whether or not he was a hobo has no baring in an apocalyptic world. Also, Christa seems solid and although overbearing she means well. I see Omid as character very akin to Glenn.
I'm with you on all these points. Christa seems to have Clem in mind for the most part, her "you can't be too careful" comment may have been harsh but i'm sure she meant well, Omid seems the comic type who wants spirits high, and chuck...well, chuck seems like a bad ass wise man to me, let's give them time.
Ajlan31
09/04/2012, 09:55 pm
Charles and Omid are okay,i don't like Christa, She is Lilly V.2.0
Xarne
09/04/2012, 10:01 pm
Omid, dude, you leave Ep3 on a broken leg? You might as well came into the scene wearing a Red Shirt...Civil War memorabilia...wth?? lol
I never thought of that but if Christa can act as babysitter for Clem/ replace Kat in that regards, awesome.
I'd like to see more Kenny/Lee, Chuck/Lee exploration of the area, looking for places to settle in for the winter.
I would need some kind of fireside scene where Omid and Christa tell us their real story, not that summary we got in Ep3
NessaT
09/04/2012, 10:17 pm
Charles and Omid are okay,i don't like Christa, She is Lilly V.2.0
But she's probably a little nicer considering that she gets laid sometimes, and Lilly didn't.
Jokes aside - I like Christa. We probably don't need another Lilly, but so far, I like her strong attitude. We need more people like her and less of Ben in team.
With the exception of Clem and possibly Kenny, the rest I don't really care about.
P.S. Omid is Doug V.2.0 :D
littlezoe
09/05/2012, 03:28 am
Well personally i only care for Celementine currently... and maybe a little bit for Kenny, because i feel sad for him now... and well, Ben... because i can understand why he did that about the bandits and overall he seems like a nice guy.
Chuck seems like a pedophile by the way he talked about Clem and i don't like pedophiles. He is also an alcoholist, i don't like alcoholists.
Then there is this Christa and Omid... i don't really like them yet... nothing special about them so far and they don't seem to be happy to be there with us. Their text is also white, just like Lee's, so it makes me think they will most probably die soon. Everyone else had distinct text color so far, but they both have white.
Phoenix VII
09/05/2012, 04:17 am
From what I can tell, the new team certainly sucks compared to what you had at the start of the Episode. Katjaa had some medical skills, Doug was good at tech and improvising, and Carley and Lilly were good shots. Chuck has 2 1/2 months of experience at surviving alone and had good advice so he'll probably be good, but Omid and Christa haven't shown any positive skills yet that I've noticed, and Omid in particular gave me a bad impression. He seems to be a bit of a coward since he didn't jump on the train when he needed to and when he snaps at you for helping him first instead of Christa despite his leg it shows that he doesn't have good sense...unless Christa is pregnant which would be a big problem but I'll assume she's not for now. I think Christa could turn out okay since from talking to her she seems to be more knowledgeable about what's going on and what to do.
Actually, between Omid's bad leg and Christa's attitude I'm not expecting them to last for long, and besides, I only really care about Clem, Kenny, and Chuck at this point.
Ultraa
09/05/2012, 04:48 am
Remember Chuck gave us the advice, but I still think its weird he says "if I see another little girl die itll do me in"
YamiRaziel
09/05/2012, 05:50 am
But she's probably a little nicer considering that she gets laid sometimes, and Lilly didn't.
Jokes aside - I like Christa. We probably don't need another Lilly, but so far, I like her strong attitude. We need more people like her and less of Ben in team.
With the exception of Clem and possibly Kenny, the rest I don't really care about.
P.S. Omid is Doug V.2.0 :D
Of course, we don't need another Lilly! We need THE Lilly! :p :D
FoxxyFox
09/05/2012, 06:54 am
I don't understand why nearly everyone say: "Christa is a bitch/ugly....". Just be patient how she work out in episode 4 because there we can see more of her.
Kiel555
09/05/2012, 07:38 am
The new team does not suck. Granted there is a lot of grief over the loss of so many good characters in e3 but the burden of measuring up to past characters should not be placed on Charles, Christa and Omid.
If you give them a chance you may find:
Charles - is an experienced survivor that offers up good recommendations without ordering you around. He favors teamwork and even corrected Kenny at the overpass about us being a crew. I kinda like the way he plays the guitar too.
Omid - He's positive and a scrounger type like Glenn. Unfortunately, he got injured trying to help us.
Christa - Is an attractive and friendly survivor. She looks fondly upon Clem too. Depending on your choices she can be friendly. Just treat her like someone you just met. Don't be too nosey and try the "..." now and again. Build bridges not walls.
YamiRaziel
09/05/2012, 07:40 am
It's funny how people just hate characters they've met like 10 minutes ago.
I do not know anything about them yet so why would I judge them?
My first impression is basically the same as Kiel555.
DreadMagus
09/05/2012, 08:12 am
Christa was.... friendly?
What choices did you make?
Viser
09/05/2012, 08:23 am
Christa wasn't exactly friendly, but she wasn't not friendly either... I don't know, she just seems to care about Clem and hopes you know what you're doing with the kid. That's why she acts the way she does.
Well, I liked Omid, but I feel that broken leg of his is gonna be getting in our way, unfortunately =/
Charles ('cause I'm fancy) seems to be the coolest so far. He looks like a person with a lot of experience and advices to share and help Lee out.
Kenny seems to be depressed and angry, I'm hoping he doesn't do anything stupid that could impair the group...
Ben... well, I still like him, hope I can trust him and he can trust me so the incident on episode 3 doesn't repeat itself. Kinda want to make him my new Bro, since Doug's gone =(
Kiel555
09/05/2012, 09:37 am
Christa was.... friendly?
What choices did you make?
I selected:
"could be who are you?"
"not in the mood for new people"
"Been with her since this all started"
"..." when Christa asks if the other are okay
"plan is to cut the tanker down"
I did not explore ALL the dialogue options. Didn't ask her what she and Omid were talking about. Didn't tell her Clem received pistol training (although I don't think this is a problem).
When she arrives at the depot station and comments how you and Clem dropped 3 walkers I chose "...". When she goes to check outside responded with "me too".
At the train, saved Omid first.
Master of Aeons
09/05/2012, 10:42 am
I like that Christa is a no-nonsense sort of survivor, but Omid's joking with you about everything. Man, they're going to die so horribly.
The Real Jaybles
09/05/2012, 10:46 am
In a zombie apocalypse you don't really have a lot of choise who you team up with, all help is welcome even if it's just to cap someone in the leg to keep the zombies of your own ass (s2-ep3 reference). It'll all work out!
Ultraa
09/05/2012, 10:53 am
What do you say about Ben and Chuck, because when they asked me about what's wrong with them I told them Kenny's story, but I don't know the others:confused:
Wrighty
09/05/2012, 10:59 am
I honestly think I don't know enough about the new people yet to judge.
I mean, sure we've talked but I haven't seen them in a fight and I haven't seen them hungry.
Christa seems forceful, I just pray she's not Lily 2.0.
Omid seems alright and cheerful, hopefully he isn't hiding anything
Kenny is a bro and if Lee helps him get over what happened, he will be a big help.
Not really seen Ben fight, doesn't really seem to contribute much to the group.
Finally Chuck seems wise and helpful but may turn nasty. Maybe when he loses his temper or gets drunk?
Kiel555
09/05/2012, 11:08 am
What do you say about Ben and Chuck, because when they asked me about what's wrong with them I told them Kenny's story, but I don't know the others:confused:
Don't know. I chose "..." and when I did Clem then said the rest of the group was okay. I just didn't want to be on record as saying Kenny, Ben or Chuck was okay.
Murasaki
09/05/2012, 11:11 am
Most likely it won't happen, but my preference from now on is for Lee, Clem and Kenny to go it alone. I can't imagine Kenny lasting the whole distance though. If Ben survives episode 4 it will be a travesty.
These new guys are just... blargh. I know it's too early to have such condemning opinion, but they are nowhere near as half as endearing as the original group and they don't seem particularly trustworthy.
The_Cheshire_Cat
09/05/2012, 12:24 pm
Charles and Omid are okay,i don't like Christa, She is Lilly V.2.0
Yeah, she came off as to bloody abrasive so I was like..later for her. Plus I am pretty sure she is pregnant.
I think that has to do with her stand off attitude and why Omid was so happy to see a little girl, and also why he got so upset when you saved him instead of his wife.
The last thing the group needs is a husband/wife team like Kenny and his wife. When families get into groups its bad news. If anyone dies the others go crazy rouge.
we lost every good characters .we lost every thing
carley:as shooter but she is dead
katjaa:as vet or doctor but she is dead
lilly:as very good shooter but she isn't here
what we have ?
christa:as stupid bit*h
omid:god damnit I don't want talk a bout this
chuck: he's groggy
The_Cheshire_Cat
09/05/2012, 12:57 pm
we lost every good characters .we lost every thing
carley:as shooter but she is dead
katjaa:as vet or doctor but she is dead
lilly:as very good shooter but she isn't here
what we have ?
christa:as stupid bit*h
omid:god damnit I don't want talk a bout this
chuck: he's groggy
I still think chuck is a child molester.
Seriously. This man had candy ready on his person and he sneaks off telling little girls they are going to die.
Who does that?
I mean I know he did the whole "I don't want to see another little girl die" bit but...there is something sneaky about him.
DreadMagus
09/05/2012, 12:58 pm
I think Chuck is the guy on the radio.
Xarne
09/05/2012, 01:24 pm
I love how in this game almost everyone is a perfect ahole to you at the start...but it's you who has to prove yourself to them
JPG619
09/05/2012, 01:27 pm
We will see in EP 4 if this team sucks, so far I just hope the guy with the broken leg dies off this he will slow down the team.
Pianaman
09/05/2012, 01:27 pm
Personally I don't think along the lines of "what asset do they bring to the group?" I'm thinking about characterization, and I think that their personalities are all just as engaging as the other characters we've met so far.
Bcroft
09/05/2012, 02:56 pm
I'm not to excited about this new team
SoulShot
09/05/2012, 03:56 pm
I don't think we know enough about the new guys to make that kind of decision yet. People are complex and don't display all of their skills, reactions and how they deal under constant pressure on first impressions or a few conversations.
I mean look at Kenny he was everyone’s bro in the first episode, after episode 2 though some people had second thoughts.
Zeruis
09/05/2012, 03:56 pm
I told Christa we might be trouble. Then, I said we aren't in the mood for new people, and I told her to mind her own business in the train station. Sounds like a good relationship. Shame that Omid got injured. He's like Glenn. I don't like Chuck's morality, but I won't shoot him.
Phantom Command
09/06/2012, 09:28 am
Chuck seems like the Yoda of the zompox telling Lee how to survive and keep Clem safe although I do wonder what other little girl he saw get killed.
Omid is the love child of Duck and Ben so no, just no ok.
Christa is well, a grade A witch, but a witch with potential.
I've already told Clem were going our own way so we'll see how that works out, maybe take Chuck so he can fight radio guy over Clem if thats their prefrence.
Milosuperspesh
09/06/2012, 10:20 am
anyone else have a problem with christa claiming to be an expert on everything ?
she turns up with her 'whipped' boyfriend saying they don't want a group, no supplies with them, both take a liking to clem and tell lee how to raise her, saying you do this n that all in the first 5 minutes..of meeting us..
she then waits till we handled the station walkers to show up to continue her berating of lee's choices.. personally i think they are connected to mr x on the walkie...
Cyreen
09/06/2012, 10:27 am
she then waits till we handled the station walkers to show up to continue her berating of lee's choices.
I was kinda wondering why she didn't get off her butt and go with Lee and Clem in the first place. Then to criticize them for going...
Lilly 2.0
DreadMagus
09/06/2012, 10:33 am
Well, she's obviously doing something right.
If you check the splash screen for Episode 4, you see her, Lee and Kenny in the sewer....
I mean, I'm not saying that proves she's awesome or anything, but she's clearly not fodder. (no sign of Chuck, Ben or Omid in that screen)
Sergiy
09/06/2012, 02:02 pm
All I'm gonna say is that survivors offer a horrible first impression, but you'll end up loving them by the time they die.
My first exposure to TWD was the TV series, so when Rick first meets Glen - I did not like him, Andrea? Nope.. Now I love every single one of those characters
Same here, when you first run into Lilly, Glen, Carley, Doug and Larry the first impression is horrible, you don't want to be stuck with these people, and by the end of the episode you like most of them.
Milosuperspesh
09/06/2012, 02:09 pm
as far as the tv show none of the characters appeal to me they all have pro's and cons
if i had to pick some i'd say dale, daryl and if pushed i like hershal too...rick is doing ok but his son ain't exactly helping..
8Bit_System
09/06/2012, 07:42 pm
We know nothing about the new group members. Let me take a bold move...
Christa is pregnant, but Omid is not the father, as she was raped by another man. They might have paired up before or after... do we know?
Chuck has been living on the streets for over a decade. People still calling him a hobo are ignorant wallies. If anyone could survive out there, it is him!
Kenny is a friend in a way, but he is broken... I'm not sure he will ever be the same after episode 3.
Ben is a traitor... a traitor, 15 years of age. He shits his own pants looking into the mirror... he is the perfect material to form into a loyal companion.
Clem... is still cute... even wittier than we thought.
Omid has a fucked up leg... not really our problem. I do want to get him through though.
This group is actually better than the original one. The new guys have survived on their one for a while, allowing Lee to concentrate on different matters.
Cyreen
09/06/2012, 08:13 pm
Christa is pregnant, but Omid is not the father, as she was raped by another man. They might have paired up before or after... do we know?
From talking to Christa and Omid, you know they lived together (Omid refers their cat), took the Great American Road Trip and hadn't been home in 6 months. If she's pregnant, I think Omid is the daddy from their demeanor.
8Bit_System
09/06/2012, 08:22 pm
You do understand the word "rape" I guess?
zgamer
09/06/2012, 11:13 pm
Chuck I am cool with. He is a somewhat convenient character given when he was introduced, but I've seen nothing I completely dislike about his personality (if maybe he needs a little more). A hobo character is a nice new character too, since we have never experienced that in TWD.
Omid is kind of a moron. Sure he is energetic and willing to help, but something just screams he will do something stupid that will hurt someone. Even him messing with the levels while Kenny is teaching him makes me a little worried.
Christa....she's just a jerk. It's one thing to be tough, but another when you just judge everyone like you're automatically smarter than them. She's barely said anything complimentary or friendly to Lee and any attempt to is shot down with cynicism. Lilly had her dad to protect, so we could understand her harsh attitude at times (until she shot Carley/Doug). The "pregnant" Christa idea is just an idea so far, so we have no reason to confirm she is acting this way out of some kind of preservation for her child. It just comes off as her being that way naturally.
The problem too is that we had no time to talk to them and develop personalities we care about. They come in literally ten or fifteen minutes before the end and that's never enough time to develop a character (you hear that TDKR?). By the halfway point of Episode 1, we spent enough time with the characters to like them. They really need to give those two a boost next episode or it will be a drag.
YamiRaziel
09/07/2012, 05:29 am
Chuck I am cool with. He is a somewhat convenient character given when he was introduced, but I've seen nothing I completely dislike about his personality (if maybe he needs a little more). A hobo character is a nice new character too, since we have never experienced that in TWD.
Omid is kind of a moron. Sure he is energetic and willing to help, but something just screams he will do something stupid that will hurt someone. Even him messing with the levels while Kenny is teaching him makes me a little worried.
Christa....she's just a jerk. It's one thing to be tough, but another when you just judge everyone like you're automatically smarter than them. She's barely said anything complimentary or friendly to Lee and any attempt to is shot down with cynicism. Lilly had her dad to protect, so we could understand her harsh attitude at times (until she shot Carley/Doug). The "pregnant" Christa idea is just an idea so far, so we have no reason to confirm she is acting this way out of some kind of preservation for her child. It just comes off as her being that way naturally.
The problem too is that we had no time to talk to them and develop personalities we care about. They come in literally ten or fifteen minutes before the end and that's never enough time to develop a character (you hear that TDKR?). By the halfway point of Episode 1, we spent enough time with the characters to like them. They really need to give those two a boost next episode or it will be a drag.
No way, you did not mention TDRK! That character's personality was the same throughout the entire movie, it was just that you didn't know. Rewatchability is something I greatly value in Nolan's movies!
Milosuperspesh
09/07/2012, 06:51 am
in short omid is basically an older version of duck (but not actually duck from the future lol)
Cyreen
09/07/2012, 11:31 am
You do understand the word "rape" I guess?
Yes, thank you. You do understand there are lasting psychological effects of rape? I truly doubt Omid would be excited about children if his partner was a rape victim.
DreadMagus
09/07/2012, 11:56 am
Nor would Christa seem so... well adjusted.
Are You Sewious
09/07/2012, 12:45 pm
I like Omid, he seems like the guy who won't make this completely serious and a power struggle. I think Christa can really offer something considering Kenny's being an a**hole (To be fair, bad day at the office) But CHUCK?!?!
1. His entry was so stupid - Already walked around and introduced himself with non of the others caring to tell you
2. He's a fucking wierdo - He's got a 'way' with Clementine didn't he...
3. What does he offer? - Maybe, he can be like a Dale except more open minded?
Xarne
09/07/2012, 12:56 pm
My take on him was he was a little too peppy. But something else I was thinking, there's blood on his pants after his jump, so not only did he break a bone, it's probably sticking out somewhere. That's going to require medical assistance fast, but it sounds like infection has already set in, based on that small Christa/Kenny dialogue. I think he's just the catalyst to get Christa into the group; she'll have no one and no choice at that point, esp in her condition.
Viser
09/07/2012, 12:57 pm
I like Omid, he seems like the guy who won't make this completely serious and a power struggle. I think Christa can really offer something considering Kenny's being an a**hole (To be fair, bad day at the office) But CHUCK?!?!
1. His entry was so stupid - Already walked around and introduced himself with non of the others caring to tell you
2. He's a fucking wierdo - He's got a 'way' with Clementine didn't he...
3. What does he offer? - Maybe, he can be like a Dale except more open minded?
Well, I'll try my best here.
1. Since he just came up to everyone else, they probably thought he had introduced himself to Lee already? Plus, the way he comes up to makes you wonder if you're in danger or not at that moment, that was pretty cool.
2. I didn't quite understand what you meant there, but she's an adorable little kid, isn't she? That's a rare sight in a ZA. He's probably just concerned about her not dying.
3. What does he offer? Aside from advice that's probably gonna help Lee keep Clementine alive for a longer period of time? And he's got candy, man. CANDY.
Xarne
09/07/2012, 12:59 pm
Studies show 9/10 pedo use candy as their weapon of choice.
Just kidding, I think Chuck is going to be the right hand man Lee needs to finish the season
DreadMagus
09/07/2012, 01:01 pm
I think Chuck is either going to be a hero or a villain. No middle ground.
Cyreen
09/07/2012, 01:04 pm
My take on him was he was a little too peppy. But something else I was thinking, there's blood on his pants after his jump, so not only did he break a bone, it's probably sticking out somewhere.
If that was the case, he wouldn't have been running on it and he wouldn't have made the train. I think it's a similar injury to Lee's after the crash (same leg even).
Viser
09/07/2012, 01:08 pm
If that was the case, he wouldn't have been running on it and he wouldn't have made the train. I think it's a similar injury to Lee's after the crash (same leg even).
According to the trailer, it seems to be a lot worse. Hershel just patched Lee's leg up and a while later you were feeling better already. Christa says that at that rate, they'll have to carry Omid around, and Kenny suggests they just leave him behind.
But well, maybe it was like Lee's leg at first, but since it wasn't treated correctly, it got a lot worse... who knows?
Xarne
09/07/2012, 01:20 pm
Im reading too much maybe, but when Kenny said 'or leave him' that was the the old Kenny
not "I lost my family' Kenny- he had kick in his voice again
Viser
09/07/2012, 01:22 pm
Im reading too much maybe, but when Kenny said 'or leave him' that was the the old Kenny
not "I lost my family' Kenny- he had kick in his voice again
Yeah, I think he probably got over the depression and is now angry at everyone because he doesn't really have anything else.
Xarne
09/07/2012, 01:28 pm
Yeah, I think he probably got over the depression and is now angry at everyone because he doesn't really have anything else.
Or because they all didnt jump on top of Duck before he got bit.
Kenny: "Bandits 'had you in a crossfire', what the hell does that mean?!"
8Bit_System
09/07/2012, 03:26 pm
Yes, thank you. You do understand there are lasting psychological effects of rape? I truly doubt Omid would be excited about children if his partner was a rape victim.
Errr.. I've read about that, sure.
Omid could still be exited... Rick treated the baby as if it was his as well, even though it could well have been Shaun's kid.
They live in a different world than we do. ;)
Cyreen
09/07/2012, 05:35 pm
Errr.. I've read about that, sure... They live in a different world than we do. ;)
No, just... no!
SilencerSteven
09/07/2012, 06:31 pm
. The new team is exactly what we need! Our original group was too trusting, Kenny even admitted he didn't like Lily but still trusts her. Look at this group we got 3 strangers that we don't know we can trust, Ben who betrayed us once and Kenny who is preparing himself for a heroic sacrifice/suicide run. makes for a far better story than friends trying to survive the apocolypse.
Phantom Command
09/08/2012, 04:41 am
in short omid is basically an older version of duck (but not actually duck from the future lol)
There goes my theory:(
Milosuperspesh
09/08/2012, 07:41 am
i looked at the wiki page and saw a chapter in ep4 thats called bed side manner so i wonder if we/lee get a chance to fix omids leg or have to deal with the options of leave/kill/help omid.
celticbhoy32
09/08/2012, 07:45 am
don't like thenew team at all.. loved kat and carley, even duck because they were all such vulnerable characters... i felt as though i was responsible for all of them.. now the only one i care for is clem, even the choice of saving christa or omid when running after the train, i was like, meh don't really care if neither of ye make it on my train... and that's not my lee :mad:
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