Shooting the Girl in the street

[Love88]

Okay so when Lee and Kenny are out hunting for supplies and the girl comes out screaming, and you have the choice to either shoot or not shoot, what did you decide and how does it effect the story?

I chose to leave her as a distraction, I thought the zombies might come after me.

[jaybreezy]

I left her as a distraction also. If she didn't get bit before I got a chance to do something then that would have been different but she was a goner anyway and it gave us a chance to do what we had to do.

[Phoenix VII]

It doesn't effect the story, you just get more time to loot supplies if you don't shoot her.

[Xarne]

My record is 16 items, who can top that

[YamiRaziel]

I shot her and I gathered most of the supplies (do not remember how much exactly). Later Kenny tried to use it against me in the argument with Lilly "Lee, here, shot a girl instead of letting her being eaten alive". Lilly, Katjaa and Carley looked at him as if he had gone mad.
In my opinion Kenny is becoming more of a monster with each episode.
It will be interesting how far he'll go now when his family is dead. Is he gonna wake up or actually get even worse?

[jaybreezy]

How is using strategy (let the already dead girl go) equal Kenny being a monster? He was right. Shoot and it attracts the walkers and they could have easily been surrounded with no escape. Kenny was right in this situatuon so I dont get the "monster" comment.

[thestalkinghead]

shooting the girl helps nobody

[jackslack]

How is using strategy (let the already dead girl go) equal Kenny being a monster? He was right. Shoot and it attracts the walkers and they could have easily been surrounded with no escape. Kenny was right in this situatuon so I dont get the "monster" comment.

It's monstrous. There's no two ways about it: You prioritised your own safety and supplies over giving someone else a merciful, swift ending.

And I did it too. Damn me, but I did it. There was a little girl depending on me, but that's hardly an excuse.

[thestalkinghead]

It's monstrous. There's no two ways about it: You prioritised your own safety and supplies over giving someone else a merciful, swift ending.

And I did it too. Damn me, but I did it. There was a little girl depending on me, but that's hardly an excuse.

the way i see it is, i wouldn't want my death to cause another, so why would the girl?

[Viner16]

My record is 16 items, who can top that

All 20 items, though I left the girl to die.

First time was 17 though, also left the girl to die.

[Xarne]

damn, I knew I missed a shelf...

[Draconigena]

I started picking off the zombies one by one. Kenny interrupts and tells Lee to cut it out and pulls him up. Not sure how many items I got but I felt like I didn't have a choice in the matter.

[NessaT]

I shot the girl the first time - and I got a decent amount of stuff.

I left her for bait the second time - and I got more stuff.

If I have another choice, I'd shoot the girl. There seems to be not much difference in the number of stuff retrieved.

[Cyreen]

shooting the girl helps nobody

Helps the girl.

[greenj2]

Watching other people's playthroughs, I've found that if you shoot the girl, Kenny gives you shit about it during the discussion with Lilly afterwards, regardless of whether or not you're on good or bad terms with him.

Can anyone tell me what happens during that conversation if you don't shoot the girl? Does he mention the incident at all?

It's a powerful moment in the game. You're essentially making a choice between pragmatic survival strategy or performing an act of mercy for a total stranger about to suffer a gruesome death.

In the game I shot her and have no regrets. Were I to face that same situation in real life, I'm not sure what I'd do.

[UnknownFox]

So did anyone else think perhaps, they could shoot the zombies at least to save her in that way? :S

[greenj2]

Initially I did. Then she got bit' on the ankle and it was all over. :(

[bl4ckrider]

I was appalled about how cold they are about it.

They never really consider trying to save her. In my world that would be the most obvious. Instead it's just a matter of cold calculations. In the end I shot her by accident because I was aiming at a zombie, but the bullet magically curved to her head. Apparantly it didn't matter anyway.

But that thing kinda hinted at how cool Lee is about his possible future girlfriend being shot. Doesn't seem to bother him at all.

[Xarne]

she was a dead man walking, she got bit 2x before you even lowered the scope.
Were you going to shoot all 10 walkers and risk a herd? Maybe drag her into the drug store so she can turn while you're looting supplies, or maybe drag her back so she can turn in the compound, with walkers in tow.

[GamingDragon316]

My record is 16 items, who can top that

I got 20 items, which is the limit.

[DreadMagus]

I saw her get bit, so I used her as a distraction.

Wasn't kind, but I had people to feed.

[littlezoe]

I shot her to not make her suffer.

[-Anna-]

I tried to shoot the walker on her, but the bullet curved to her head...

But I'm glad it happened, anyway. One less person suffering and one less walker in the world. c:

[YamiRaziel]

How is using strategy (let the already dead girl go) equal Kenny being a monster? He was right. Shoot and it attracts the walkers and they could have easily been surrounded with no escape. Kenny was right in this situatuon so I dont get the "monster" comment.

What's so difficult to understand? I shot the girl because I still have some humanity left. Kenny wouldn't, but I'm sure that he will pull a Shane on me if his life depends on that.

If you shoot the girl, Kenny will proudly confess to the group. There's a difference between doing what's necessary and bragging about it. Kenny is an idiot. Even his wife doesn't agree with him.

[Kiel555]

Shot the girl. That was a pretty sick idea Kenny suggested. Let a terrified girl die in agony so we can have a little more time to loot Lee's parents store. Just sad. Where is the dignity of men? Have we sunk this low?

Collected 12 items. Lilly was pleased with the haul and a fellow human being did not have to be used in an inhumane way to do it.

[RafaelBrasileiro]

I left her ... I would not kill someone I'd never met, and kill her? would not bring any benefit!
It is a bad thing, but necessary, I had to get the maximum possible supplies for my group!

[DarkCrisis]

At the end game rankings with other players I was honestly shocked that the majority (by a lot) left her to die in agony.

Where was the humanity and mercy?

[jaybreezy]

What's so difficult to understand? I shot the girl because I still have some humanity left. Kenny wouldn't, but I'm sure that he will pull a Shane on me if his life depends on that.

If you shoot the girl, Kenny will proudly confess to the group. There's a difference between doing what's necessary and bragging about it. Kenny is an idiot. Even his wife doesn't agree with him.

So. What if you shoot the girl, attract the walkers and you both die in the drug store? The supplies never make it back to the group and that's that.

You put a stranger out of her misery sure, but you are now dead. The rest of the group is probably dead as well. And I don't want to hear "oh.. well that didn't happen", because at the time it's a damn good possibility that it could happen.

There was nothing MONSTROUS about what Kenny suggested at all. It was a good suggestion for the good of the group, and our group is more important than a stranger who is dead anyway.

[Draconigena]

she was a dead man walking, she got bit 2x before you even lowered the scope.
Were you going to shoot all 10 walkers and risk a herd? Maybe drag her into the drug store so she can turn while you're looting supplies, or maybe drag her back so she can turn in the compound, with walkers in tow.

My thought was to get rid of as many walkers I possibly could and give her a chance to fend for herself - for whatever time she had left. I wasn't about to shoot her, let alone leave her to die with all those walkers around her. Yet the game decided for me, what a shame.

Who knows, maybe she would have had a chance to escape and have the herd of walkers go after her.

[Xarne]

once I saw the bite, I stopped wasting bullets

[Milosuperspesh]

she gets bit even before you have the option to shoot her..

so other than the screaming leave her alone ;)

[Xarne]

and try for a 20 item supply run

[Sisterofshane]

What's so difficult to understand? I shot the girl because I still have some humanity left. Kenny wouldn't, but I'm sure that he will pull a Shane on me if his life depends on that.

If you shoot the girl, Kenny will proudly confess to the group. There's a difference between doing what's necessary and bragging about it. Kenny is an idiot. Even his wife doesn't agree with him.

Yami, I played through that the other day and I didn't see Kenny beaming with pride - I saw him leveling back disgust. He brings up the girl in town to illustrate to Lilly that Macon is a waste of time - that it is about time to leave (counter to her suggestion to stay through the winter).

Based upon the choices with Kenny regarding his own son, I am confident that he will do what is necessary for the survival of the group. Anyone who isn't disappointed of what the ZA has made them do - of what they have become, is insane. EVERYONE has done something unscrupulous in the name of survival.

[Viner16]

Left the girl, she should've ran straight instead of in circles.

Got 20 supplies though, but I don't see how that affects the story besides a bit of dialogue.

[Wrighty]

What's so difficult to understand? I shot the girl because I still have some humanity left. Kenny wouldn't, but I'm sure that he will pull a Shane on me if his life depends on that.

If you shoot the girl, Kenny will proudly confess to the group. There's a difference between doing what's necessary and bragging about it. Kenny is an idiot. Even his wife doesn't agree with him.

Proudly confess??? Wut?

Kenny said what had happened to illustrate how bad things were in Macon now. He was basically sayin the only reason we got what we did was because a poor girl died. He wasn't proud about it at all.

[Bearcules]

At the end game rankings with other players I was honestly shocked that the majority (by a lot) left her to die in agony.

Where was the humanity and mercy?

Bites are 100% lethal and you can not save her. People will get non-zombie illnesses and when cholera spreads amongst your group, tell me how merciful it was to shoot someone who was going to die five minutes after you met her instead of getting enough antibiotics. There are no 'best' options in TWD universe.

[DreadMagus]

At the end game rankings with other players I was honestly shocked that the majority (by a lot) left her to die in agony.

Where was the humanity and mercy?

Two episodes earlier. :cool:

[thestalkinghead]

it would have been selfish of that woman to have asked (if she somehow could) us to risk our lives to end hers sooner, i gave irene the gun no risk to me and the only cost was one bullet, but i left the woman on the street to die, because the risk to us far outweighs any reward she could gain

[Cyreen]

There was just as much chance of Irene drawing walkers as the girl in the street. Lee was at risk at that point anyway if he couldn't get over trailer(with or without Kenny's help). Kenny was fine. Worse case scenario, Kenny leaves the pharmacy for another day and leaves Lee to be munched, but that could have played out whether Lee took the shot or not.

[thestalkinghead]

There was just as much chance of Irene drawing walkers as the girl in the street. Lee was at risk at that point anyway if he couldn't get over trailer(with or without Kenny's help). Kenny was fine. Worse case scenario, Kenny leaves the pharmacy for another day and leaves Lee to be munched, but that could have played out whether Lee took the shot or not.


seriously:confused: :rolleyes: there was a small risk with irene since you had killed the nearby zombies, the woman on the street had the dead hanging off her

[Cyreen]

seriously:confused: :rolleyes: there was a small risk with irene since you had killed the nearby zombies, the woman on the street had the dead hanging off her

That depends on how you played that scene. If you refused to give her the gun and she shoots herself in the parking lot after the balcony breaks, they have to make a run for the car as the walkers arrive.

[DreadMagus]

If Kenny had abandoned Lee - the walkers were focused on the girl, not Lee... she'd have given him a distraction to escape....

[Cyreen]

If Kenny had abandoned Lee - the walkers were focused on the girl, not Lee... she'd have given him a distraction to escape....

He was in a dead end and no doubt she had drawn walkers up the side road beside the pharmacy as well. A gun is only useful for so long. Lee was screwed without Kenny's help at that point whether he took the shot or not.

[DreadMagus]

Only because it's a point and click adventure game. :p

The ladder fell off, but it was still a ladder. He could have wedged it against the Jeep - and climbed high enough to pull himself up.

/speculation

The point is, though, if the zombies are focused on something else then they aren't focused on you. Your chances of survival just went up.

Shoot the girl.. and... well... we know they love the sound of gunfire.

[Cyreen]

I shot the girl. Were I in a similar predicament, I hope someone will be so kind.

[DreadMagus]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not judging you or your choice.

There is no right or wrong in that situation - only "what can you live with"

[thestalkinghead]

That depends on how you played that scene. If you refused to give her the gun and she shots herself in the parking lot after the balcony breaks, they have to make a run for the car as the walkers arrive.

you cant know that, and anyway they were leaving, not only just arriving for supplies

[Cyreen]

you cant know that, and anyway they were leaving, not only just arriving for supplies

Umm... yes I can, I played both versions. If you give her gun, no walkers. If you don't, walkers.

The supplies weren't going anywhere and getting them that day wasn't critical. I would imagine if the walkers had been really bad, they would have left, gone elsewhere, with the plan to try again another day.

There is no right or wrong in that situation - only "what can you live with"

The moral of the story.

[thestalkinghead]

Umm... yes I can, I played both versions. If you give her gun, no walkers. If you don't, walkers.

The supplies weren't going anywhere and getting them that day wasn't critical. I would imagine if the walkers had been really bad, they would have left, gone elsewhere, with the plan to try again another day.

but saying that, why bother picking up any supplies as you know you don't keep them.

also that means no risk by letting irene kill herself

[Cyreen]

but saying that, why bother picking up any supplies as you know you don't keep them

You mean in the grand scheme of things, you don't get to keep them? Saves getting bitched out by Lilly.

If you meant in general, why look for supplies if you didn't need them, than because they might need them eventually and what else did they have to do with their time.

[LokiHavok]

I think you're missing the point.

WHy pick up supplies?
Cause if you don't you have no supplies. Which isn't good for the group.
TWD game isn't meant to be played with foreknowledge of the coming events.

[thestalkinghead]

You mean in the grand scheme of things, you don't get to keep them? Saves getting bitched out by Lilly.

If you meant in general, why look for supplies if you didn't need them, than because they might need them eventually and what else did they have to do with their time.

i meant in the grand scheme, and in that case it doesnt matter because lilly is gone in a few minutes anyway

[Cyreen]

i meant in the grand scheme, and in that case it doesnt matter because lilly is gone in a few minutes anyway

Run a save that way and let me know how it goes.

[thestalkinghead]

Run a save that way and let me know how it goes.

well i may do that, but what i am saying is that if you play the game in the style of not knowing the future, the risk of shooting the girl on the street is in front of you, but the risk with irene is only theoretical and not that likely

[Cyreen]

With no prior knowledge, the risk of drawing walkers was the same in both scenarios.

[thestalkinghead]

With no prior knowledge, the risk of drawing walkers was the same in both scenarios.

no, there are walkers in front of you in one case, and in the other they are just a theoretical possibility

[LordBlake]

I left her with them to gain some time, anyway if she wasn't bitten i wouldn't save her neither. Think about it you're in a world full of zombies with few to none supplies, would you risk your life for a girl and share your few supplies with her knowing that surely she won't be useful to gather new supplies or would you take advantage of her situation for the sake of your group ?. I'd surely do the last thing, it's about survival not about playing the good samaritan, think about it as if it were an inversion you look for revenue not for loss.

[Cyreen]

no, there are walkers in front of you in one case, and in the other they are just a theoretical possibility

That's silly. They're walkers. They are everywhere. They came out of the woods when Glenn was talking to the girl, chances are there were more and depending on how you play, there are.

[thestalkinghead]

That's silly. They're walkers. They are everywhere. They came out of the woods when Glenn was talking to the girl, chances are there were more and depending on how you play, there are.

but the chances or risk just isnt the same

[Cyreen]

There is no right or wrong in that situation - only "what can you live with"

^THIS.

You play your game and I'll play mine. The words chance and risk are pretty much interchangeable in this context.

[thestalkinghead]

^THIS.

You play your game and I'll play mine. The words chance and risk are pretty much interchangeable in this context.

agreed :p

[mooneysuzuki]

Tell Tale did an awesome job with her screams, i actually winced when we walked in the door. Made me question my decision, but you gotta go with your gut.

[Bearcules]

Tell Tale did an awesome job with her screams, i actually winced when we walked in the door. Made me question my decision, but you gotta go with your gut.

I guess I wasn't the only one who was thinking about restarting the game because of this.

[DreadMagus]

I have to admit, the screaming did make me feel guilty.

But I had people to protect... and she wasn't one of them.

[Zeruis]

I tried to shoot the zombies around her, but Kenny told me to knock it off.

[ryannumber1gamer]

My record is 16 items, who can top that

19 Items :)

[tuc]

i choose do not shoot her after thinking lily did not such different thing with governer later

[sublime90]

i shot the girl. because i have something in my chest called a heart.

[Cyreen]

i choose do not shoot her after thinking lily did not such different thing with governer later

Lilly is such a good role model.

[Genetic]

I didn't shoot her, why put Lee and Kenny and possibly the whole group in danger to put a girl out of her misery? I think of the bigger picture in my playthrough, and while it's unfortunate what that girl had to go through it'd be more unfortunate if kenny and lee were killed and the group didn't have any more supplies.

[Sir Fruitcakes]

My record is 16 items, who can top that

I can, my friend, you can gather All of the items if your fast enough, once you hit 20 items Lee will say "I think thats all of them" and then you leave.

[jaybreezy]

i shot the girl. because i have something in my chest called a heart.

You're lucky that gunshot didn't attract walkers who surrounded you and ripped that thing in your chest out.

The people who left her have a heart too.. For the people in the group, not some stranger who is dead anyway.

[Xarne]

i shot the girl. because i have something in my chest called a heart.

ZA wave 1 casualty

[Phoenix VII]

I shot the girl and got 13 supplies which was enough to get me the, "Your backpack has lots of supplies" message, so I'm happy. Don't think I'll ever be able to get all 20 without leaving her though.

[Gomu]

I wanted to save her, but after I saw her get bit, she was done so I just left her.

[jaybreezy]

ZA wave 1 casualty

True that homie!

[YamiRaziel]

Lilly is such a good role model.

Much better than Kenny.

[Cyreen]

Much better than Kenny.

My Lee follows no one.

[zapphoman]

I shot her. What's the point of living if you have no humanity? Might as well be the walkers.

[YamiRaziel]

My Lee follows no one.

Okay. However, most of the time the coin has only two sides. Sometimes it's Lilly's opinion against Kenny's. You got to share one of those opinions in order to agree with them. So it all goes back to what person you are, what person Lilly is and what person Kenny is.
Most of the time people's personalities define their choices and not the other way around.

[Cyreen]

And sometimes I'm of the same opinion as Lilly and sometimes Kenny and when possible, I tell them both to grow up. I suspect that's how a lot of people play.

[DreadMagus]

ZA wave 1 casualty

ROFL.

Indeed.

[Xarne]

And sometimes I'm of the same opinion as Lilly and sometimes Kenny and when possible, I tell them both to grow up. I suspect that's how a lot of people play.

Exactly, its hard for me to take a side because since reading all the threads, I can appreciate both of them equally. Lily's bad attitude rubs alot of people the wrong way, jading their view of her (even though I think she is the better of the two) but, she doesnt have a spouse and child to look after and that is why I can respect Kenny's stance just as much as Lily's. If people werent so put off with her mouth, I think they would see that to Lily, the group is her family.
Not in a Hallmark moment kind of way, but in that she is looking out for them all equally.

[Rock114]

Let's not go turning this thread into yet ANOTHER Lilly V Kenny thread. I've seen enough of those to make my hair go gray.

[Viner16]

Every topic eventually goes Off-Topic XD

[Cyreen]

Let's not go turning this thread into yet ANOTHER Lilly V Kenny thread. I've seen enough of those to make my hair go gray.

Agreed.

It's possible to rationalize any decision you make in this game and because they are all questionable (i.e. killing, stealing), everyone defends their decisions in order to feel justified in making them.

It will be interesting to see how Telltale makes these decisions count.

[jaybreezy]

I shot her. What's the point of living if you have no humanity? Might as well be the walkers.

What does living have to do with having no humanity? Take the shot and you attract walkers which could have easily surrounded the building and killed you both. That lady was dead already. We had people (including Clem) to get back to.

[zgamer]

Not only from the moral implications (leave her to die painfully or mercifully spare her the pain), I think it adds a lot more tension to the looting part because it forces you to act fast. That way you can really push yourself to see how much you can gather on a time limit.

[Donut Funn]

I left her to be eaten.

I had to get supplies for the group, and she was going to die anyway. No point in risking me and Kenny's lives just to put a random girl out of her misery, especially since she would die anyway seconds later.

[Milosuperspesh]

done both now and funny how kenny totally blames lee both times..

[KCohere]

Okay so when Lee and Kenny are out hunting for supplies and the girl comes out screaming, and you have the choice to either shoot or not shoot, what did you decide and how does it effect the story?

I chose to leave her as a distraction, I thought the zombies might come after me.

I chose to shoot her and then Kenny started berating me so I wondered if I made a mistake. I just didnt want to use this poor woman as bait.

[The_Cheshire_Cat]

There should have been an option to ask about her political affiliation and religious views before deciding to save her.

these are important things to know. Not everybody is worth saving.

[DreadMagus]

Lol

[Sir Fruitcakes]

I shot her and I gathered most of the supplies (do not remember how much exactly). Later Kenny tried to use it against me in the argument with Lilly "Lee, here, shot a girl instead of letting her being eaten alive". Lilly, Katjaa and Carley looked at him as if he had gone mad.
In my opinion Kenny is becoming more of a monster with each episode.
It will be interesting how far he'll go now when his family is dead. Is he gonna wake up or actually get even worse?

Go back and listen carefully to what he says, Kenny says it was the first *Smart* thing you've done in awhile, implying he thought it was the right thing to do, he was using it against lily, not you.

[Geryk]

My record is 16 items, who can top that

my record is 15 items.... almost there

[CTCCoco]

I shot her, but the situation didn´t make sense. Those zombies are slow and she run very well, so she can join the group if want... why did she just stays waiting for dead? Stupid.

[JabbaDaHuttX7]

Would have liked the option to save her at the cost of getting no supplies (even if she was bitten first).

[Red Panda]

I let her die b/c she's running around in circles, screaming at the top of her lungs. I suspect that's why most people let her get eaten.

[Bralef]

I let her die. I kinda considered saving her, but then she got bitten.

From the point of view of both the bitten person and the man with the gun, I can say I'd be happy with that decision. If I'm bitten, I'm dead. That's it, Game Over. The only thing you can really do to help me is making my death less painful, but if that's at the possible cost of the well being of people who actually have a chance to survive? Leave me to die. No sense in getting yourselves killed, as well. I have the same way of thinking from Lee's point of view

...At least, that's how I think of it in the theoretical sense. If this were an actual scenario, who knows how I'd react?

[Rock114]

I shot her, but the situation didn´t make sense. Those zombies are slow and she run very well, so she can join the group if want... why did she just stays waiting for dead? Stupid.

She was surrounded and probably not thinking straight. Also, she was bitten in the leg shortly after running out of the store, so she couldn't join the group even if Lee and Kenny had somehow killed all the walkers.

[Araron]

I shoot her.I did it.I just couldnt hear her scream and let her suffer while we collect supplies,a swift,painless death. :) I just wanted to help her. :)

[Galdis]

Let her get eaten, scored full 20 my first playthrough. I even hesitated for about 5 seconds because I felt so bad about leaving her.

Those freaking screams, man. Kudos to the voice actress.

[thestalkinghead]

the story of how she ended up on the street :)

http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3318&d=1348439972

[Viner16]

I left her there.

she could've ran in a straight line silently and survived, she died because she ran in GODDAMN circles...

How did she even make it this far?

[Xyla]

This was one of the toughest choices for me, along with not killing Larry and taking Lilly with me.

I'm not sure if I made the right choice in this matter, but truthfully, is either choice 'right'? In one option we put down a girl who will die regardless so she won't suffer. But doing so, we risk our lives and the lives of our group.

The first time I shot her, but I didn't want to get on Kenny's bad side, since he was already mad at me about not helping him kill Larry. He's one of my closest friends. Plus I only gathered 9 things.

I then with back to try again. This time, I didn't shoot her. I got 17 things. I felt so guilty as I listened to her screams, but otherwise we could die. And if we die... What about the rest of the group?

I have to say, I went with the second choice. I wouldn't of if she hadn't been bitten, but...

Hopefully I made the right decision.

[Riadon]

I let her be eaten (my mother did, also) because my group and its well-being is far more important than a basically-dead woman running around in circles and screaming at the top of her lungs. I don't see how she survived for so long.

Also.....

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[AnnaSan]

I left her because she was screaming so freaking loud, she could've easily outran those few zombies. I felt bad though because Kenny bragged about it to the whole group =.=

[double_u]

Besides affecting Kenny's disposition towards you, TTG could have actually made the scene in the pharmacy a lot harder if you did shoot the girl. As it stands right now, you can still loot everything whether you shot Beatrice or not if you click fast enough.

[CarScar]

I shot her. I put myself in her shoes, I'd want someone to shoot me in that situation so I treated her like how I'd like to get treated. It's as simple as that.

[Mornai]

I shot her. I stand by my signature, and i try to never let another survivor suffer as best i can. As CarScar said, if i too were there surrounded by walkers and had been bitten, i would hope someone would end my suffering rather than let me die in pain and misery.

[Viner16]

Left her to die.

Cuz running in circles was such a smart plan :D

[Toitle_John]

I left her, If she had not been bitten of course I would try to save her, plus I was playing my 'Kenny's Bitch' playthrough. Perhaps when I do 'Lily's Bitch' I'll shoot her.

[ColtPeacemaker00]

Shot her and still got enough supplies to make everyone happy. Next run left her got all the supplies because I was curious to see if it affected the story...it didn't. The choice to shoot or not really has no significant bearing on the outcome of the story and is meant to serve as a moral test. Are you like Lee who still feels compassion for his fellow human beings, or are you like Kenny who is steadily losing it? Shoot her or not, though, it does'nt affect the outcome. However much you bring back, its all still lost to the bandits after your escape during the raid.

[Bidoof]

Left her, she gives you more time to loot the shop, I wasn't gonna shoot her and then gain uneccesary attention to myself. Our group is more important than one stupid woman who clearly decided to get herself into that position and either way she would have ended up dead. And Kenny then goes and tells the group about it well, if I remember rightly he was the one who said to leave her.

Kenny is a bit off sometimes but I can't help but like him... But I left that woman she was just a distraction to allow me to get as much as I could from the shop.

[RichWalk23]

I mercy killed her. From a zombie survivalist point of view, it was a stupid move that would have gotten Lee and Kenny killed, but I didn't regret it one bit.

At least I knew that I spared a complete stranger from having to face an unnecessarily long and painful death, just for a risky chance that I might have a little more time to scavenge a few more items out of the shop before we were inevitably found.

[Rommel49]

I left her, since she was dead either way. If she hadn't been bit and/or Lee was alone, it would've been a more difficult choice.

I took it as a case where morality was in the eye of the beholder. Would it have been any less moral to immediately risk the life of the guy I was with (and I don't like Kenny in the least) and potentially the rest of the group for the sake of a "clear" conscience?

Like a lot of the choices, I saw it as a choice of whether I wanted my poo sandwich on wheat or white bread.

[aerial-ballet]

Like a lot of the choices, I saw it as a choice of whether I wanted my poo sandwich on wheat or white bread.

Nice metaphor!

[GREYxDUZxKRUSH]

Leaving her was easy choice. She is dead already. Im not, so why risk it?

[Cthulhu42]

This is one of the few choices for which I don't have a strong preference one way or the other.

I shot her my first playthrough, left her my second.

[McLuvn TWDG]

the story of how she ended up on the street :)

http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3318&d=1348439972

Hilarious!!! :D

I shot her the first time by accident...i was trying to clear out a running lane for her and restarted the system right when i shot her...i was like WTF??

next time around...i realised it was a moral decision and you cant saver her life...so i chose to save ours. i left her.

stupid girl every first person shooting gamer knows to serpentine SERPENTINE! :p

[Mark$man]

I left her all times but 1, just to see what would happen. Although there is little difference, leaving her was just the right decision.

[Demopan]

I shot her. I mean, being eaten like that is one of the worst fates I can imagine. I wouldn't put that on my worst enemy.

[Mikejames]

I may be a bit of a hypocrite...
I killed Danny for what he did and only felt terrible when Clem saw it, and I stole the food out of desperation before still choosing to shoot the girl in the street.

Maybe it's easier for me to be harshly pragmatic when I don't see whom I'm directly hurting?

[ZeroShoot]

I left her, she was dead in any way, so why waste a bullet? Yeah she suffered, but after 2 minutes it was over, once and for all, if she was alive, I would have saved her, but... that wasn't the case

[CarScar]

I still stand by my beliefs that shooting her was the better option. If I were in her situation I'd dearly, dearly hope someone would shoot me. Being eaten alive, having your skin literally being ripped off your body slowly... God knows how much pain she would have endured if she wasn't shot. I don't want anyone to feel that pain, ever. And if it cost me losing a couple of energy bars? So be it. If Clem misses out on a meal? So be it. I know Clem, I know she'd gladly give up a meal if it meant someone didn't have to suffer for it.

Although, admittedly, it's sappy but I just feel that's what my Lee would do. After he has caused so much suffering too his wife, his parents, his brother, probably all his friends, students, coworkers... All those people who looked up too Lee, befriended Lee, or loved Lee probably suffered after learning what Lee had done... I really wouldn't want to cause anymore suffering in my lifetime, especially suffering to that degree.

[GREYxDUZxKRUSH]

I still stand by my beliefs that shooting her was the better option. If I were in her situation I'd dearly, dearly hope someone would shoot me. Being eaten alive, having your skin literally being ripped off your body slowly... God knows how much pain she would have endured if she wasn't shot. I don't want anyone to feel that pain, ever. And if it cost me losing a couple of energy bars? So be it. If Clem misses out on a meal? So be it. I know Clem, I know she'd gladly give up a meal if it meant someone didn't have to suffer for it.

Although, admittedly, it's sappy but I just feel that's what my Lee would do. After he has caused so much suffering too his wife, his parents, his brother, probably all his friends, students, coworkers... All those people who looked up too Lee, befriended Lee, or loved Lee probably suffered after learning what Lee had done... I really wouldn't want to cause anymore suffering in my lifetime, especially suffering to that degree.

With this thought process your probably dead in ZA. Heart or Smart. I choose smart. Raw emotion and feelings are the enemy in dangerous situtations. The one meal thing theyve been starving since before st johns. If she was savable then ok but shes dead with no chance. We have a chance because of her. Her death has meaning her dying gave us the time we needed to get in and out in one trip. You shoot her its just another meaning less death and you bring down the herd on you. Possibly killing yourself and anyone that needs you to survive. If you didnt get everything out of the pharmacy you would risk return trips which are as dangerous if not more dangerous later. Your alive shes dead enough said lets get this shit and go.

[CarScar]

With this thought process your probably dead in ZA. Heart or Smart. I choose smart. Raw emotion and feelings are the enemy dangerous situtations. The one meal thing theyve been starving since before st johns. If she was savable then ok but shes dead with no chance. We have a chance because of her. Her death has meaning her dying gave us the time we needed to get in and out in one trip. You shoot her its just another meaning less death and you bring down the herd on you. Possibly killing yourself and anyone that needs you to survive. If you didnt get everything out of the pharmacy you would risk return trips which as dangerous if not more dangerous later.
Actually, I agree completely. Although people hold onto the notion that keeping one's humanity is a strength, I believe it to be a crippling weakness. Probably the greatest weakness someone could have come the zombie apocalypse. Breaking your humanity and doing what needs to be done is a strength I don't really see myself capable of doing. I can't honestly see myself doing what needs to be done.

That said I wouldn't exactly call myself a bastion of light, or what have you. Just in this specific case I would do the humane thing no questions ask. I agree with Ben that one's greatest fear come to the zombie apocalypse would be being eaten alive. Can you imagine the pain? I don't even want to think of it, it's just awful. It'd be like getting ripped apart by mini saw blades. You wouldn't even find comfort in knowing your going to leave this fucked up world because the process would be slow. And honestly someone enduring that pain isn't worth getting some more food items from a place that has been scavenged for months now, nearly picked to the bone. It's not like we're starving too, we were much better fed than in episode two due to the Stranger's car.

[GREYxDUZxKRUSH]

Im not saying id be whistling while shes getting eaten. And yes eaten alive would suck donkey balls but these choices would constantly come up. If kenny ended up getting his face chewed off because you were worried about the DEAD girl suffering.....

[Marumochi]

On my good guy playthrough, I think I took too long trying to shoot her so we had to make a bee-line for the pharmacy. Felt pretty bad for doing so.

On my not-so-good-guy playthrough, I left her right away and was able to get the 20 items with plenty of time to spare.

[Cooperal]

I left her. She was already bit before you could fire. People who still have a shot at survival were my top priority. And that meant grabbing those meds as risk-free as possible.

Apparently you actually score more "respect" points from Kenny by disobeying him, thereby demonstrating your compassion, and the strength to do what he couldn't. Don't care.

[Rommel49]

Actually, I agree completely. Although people hold onto the notion that keeping one's humanity is a strength, I believe it to be a crippling weakness. Probably the greatest weakness someone could have come the zombie apocalypse. Breaking your humanity and doing what needs to be done is a strength I don't really see myself capable of doing. I can't honestly see myself doing what needs to be done.

That said I wouldn't exactly call myself a bastion of light, or what have you. Just in this specific case I would do the humane thing no questions ask. I agree with Ben that one's greatest fear come to the zombie apocalypse would be being eaten alive. Can you imagine the pain? I don't even want to think of it, it's just awful. It'd be like getting ripped apart by mini saw blades. You wouldn't even find comfort in knowing your going to leave this fucked up world because the process would be slow. And honestly someone enduring that pain isn't worth getting some more food items from a place that has been scavenged for months now, nearly picked to the bone. It's not like we're starving too, we were much better fed than in episode two due to the Stranger's car.

The problem with that thought process is that if it isn't worth letting a stranger (who's really already pretty much dead) die painfully to scavenge food, medicine, etc. for your group just because there isn't much left, then when would it be worth it?

In a survival scenario, you don't take anything for granted. You're always trying to improve your situation, not make it worse. The way I see it, I have a duty to the group of still-living people I'm with more than I do to some stranger that's going to end up dead by the end of the day no matter what I do. There's only so many potential meals you can turn down before someone does end up paying the price for it... that's a much worse option.

[CarScar]

The problem with that thought process is that if it isn't worth letting a stranger (who's really already pretty much dead) die painfully to scavenge food, medicine, etc. for your group just because there isn't much left, then when would it be worth it?

In a survival scenario, you don't take anything for granted. You're always trying to improve your situation, not make it worse. The way I see it, I have a duty to the group of still-living people I'm with more than I do to some stranger that's going to end up dead by the end of the day no matter what I do. There's only so many potential meals you can turn down before someone does end up paying the price for it... that's a much worse option.
Perhaps, but at the end of the day I still got 18 / 20 items. I missed out on what, two energy bars? I know I wasn't aware of how the situation would have played out when I made my decision but still, it turned out great regardless and I'm glad I put her out of her misery. Because if I hadn't, she would have died in possibly one of the most painful ways imaginable so we could only gain two extra energy bars.

I know we have different views but I'd give up a meal if it meant something departed painlessly rather than painfully. Although the choice would most likely change if my situation were desperate enough.

[GREYxDUZxKRUSH]

But what if that meal you gave up was the difference between being physically able to do tasks. What if you did not find more for weeks. Injury were you cannot move to get more. Shit happens. Could be difference between life and death. So yea 3 bullets, 2 energy bars, or 1 antibiotic could mean a whole lot.

[Jaded X Gamer]

Was no one concerned that screaming panicked woman might see Kenny and Lee and start unknowingly bringing the dead after them if she ran towards them? Or she might survive long enough to start raising dead all over Macon, fucking up possible escape routes? Or get cornered right in front of the pharmacy and her yells end up bringing more dead down upon the building?

Lotta talk about being "smart" but in retrospect, leaving her alive seemed like as much a liability as shooting her. You only see her run back the way she came after you decide to leave her, so you don't really know what's she was going to do before that. She could have just as easily started fleeing towards the pharmacy and started banging on the busted up doors, bringing a ton of the dead after her. And if she ever spotted Lee and Kenny she probably try chasing after them.

Way I see it, both choices carry some inherit risk.

[Riadon]

Was no one concerned that screaming panicked woman might see Kenny and Lee and start unknowingly bringing the dead after them if she ran towards them? Or she might survive long enough to start raising dead all over Macon, fucking up possible escape routes? Or get cornered right in front of the pharmacy and her yells end up bringing more dead down upon the building?

Lotta talk about being "smart" but in retrospect, leaving her alive seemed like as much a liability as shooting her. You only see her run back the way she came after you decide to leave her, so you don't really know what's she was going to do before that. She could have just as easily started fleeing towards the pharmacy and started banging on the busted up doors, bringing a ton of the dead after her. And if she ever spotted Lee and Kenny she probably try chasing after them.

Way I see it, both choices carry some inherit risk.

A guaranteed risk versus a theoretical risk.

There is a big difference.

[Mornai]

A guaranteed risk versus a theoretical risk.

There is a big difference.

Both options are equally theoretical in risk. There is no guarantee until after the choice is made.

[vivec]

I left her. If she wasnt stupid and try to get away i would shoot her in leg and leave

[Rommel49]

Was no one concerned that screaming panicked woman might see Kenny and Lee and start unknowingly bringing the dead after them if she ran towards them? Or she might survive long enough to start raising dead all over Macon, fucking up possible escape routes? Or get cornered right in front of the pharmacy and her yells end up bringing more dead down upon the building?

Lotta talk about being "smart" but in retrospect, leaving her alive seemed like as much a liability as shooting her. You only see her run back the way she came after you decide to leave her, so you don't really know what's she was going to do before that. She could have just as easily started fleeing towards the pharmacy and started banging on the busted up doors, bringing a ton of the dead after her. And if she ever spotted Lee and Kenny she probably try chasing after them.

Way I see it, both choices carry some inherit risk.

Not really. It's a pretty safe bet that the pack of undead chasing her had her full attention. :p Your average person tends to develop tunnel vision in a fight for their life scenario; situational awareness basically goes out the window. Besides, as Kenny says, her screaming will draw the walkers to her... shooting her pinpoints your position for them.

The options aren't really equal in the slightest because of that. Best case, one could claim that leaving her could somehow eventually alert the living impaired to your presence. By contrast, shooting her will alert them to your presence. She wasn't louder than a gunshot. Any undead in Macon she could attract by screaming would be attracted by gunfire.

Had the option been there to kill her quietly, it would've been a harder call (atleast for me).

[Riadon]

Both options are equally theoretical in risk. There is no guarantee until after the choice is made.

When you shoot the girl, it is guaranteed that the walkers will notice. If you don't shoot the girl, there is a chance that she MIGHT bring the walkers to you.

Guaranteed risk < Possible risk