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Please don't read if you didn't finish Episode 3 yet
after Kenny kiled Larry, Lilly become a crazy girl and start to scare of everthing!
So she decide to stay in motel becuse she was scared to faced destiny
When Kenny decided to Leave motel Lilly tried to rejected! and why ? because she was hated of Kenny
So after that bandits attacked to motel and Duck get bitten
So then Duck and kattja died!
and one more thing is that Lilly shot Carly in cold blood because Kenny blow up
her father brain in front of her eyes
Larry had a heart attack and he couldn't do anything after that, so why Kenny killed him ?
So You see ? Everything was Kenny fault
Cyreen
09/08/2012, 12:44 pm
It's all Clem's fault. If she'd just dropped the damn hammer on Lee's head to begin with...
Zeruis
09/08/2012, 01:00 pm
Please don't read if you didn't finish Episode 3 yet
after Kenny kiled Larry, Lilly become a crazy girl and start to scare of everthing!
So she decide to stay in motel becuse she was scared to faced destiny
When Kenny decided to Leave motel Lilly tried to rejected! and why ? because she was hated of Kenny
So after that bandits attacked to motel and Duck get bitten
So then Duck and kattja died!
and one more thing is that Lilly shot Carly in cold blood because Kenny blow up
her father brain in front of her eyes
Larry had a heart attack and he couldn't do anything after that, so why Kenny killed him ?
So You see ? Everything was Kenny fault
Nah, Brah. It was entirely Ben's fault. He was the one who told the group that you would turn if you died. Which prompted Kenny to kill Larry.
Nah, Brah. It was entirely Ben's fault. He was the one who told the group that you would turn if you died. Which prompted Kenny to kill Larry.
Oh shit, I find out just right know why Kenny killed Larry. foolish of me :D
I thought Kenny killed Larry brcause of his screaming :D
Zeruis
09/08/2012, 01:38 pm
Oh shit, I find out just right know why Kenny killed Larry. foolish of me :D
I thought Kenny killed Larry brcause of his screaming :D
That would've been awesome.
That would've been awesome.
Where of this is awesome ?
Zeruis
09/08/2012, 02:10 pm
Where of this is awesome ?
I thought that if Kenny HAD killed Larry because of his screaming, that would be entirely immoral and be a downfall of his character. Hilarious.
thestalkinghead
09/08/2012, 02:14 pm
its Larrys fault for not having a healthier lifestyle, causing him to have the heart condition
I thought that if Kenny HAD killed Larry because of his screaming, that would be entirely immoral and be a downfall of his character. Hilarious.
Because of that I would like to improve my English :D
DreadMagus
09/08/2012, 02:24 pm
I'd like to point out that for someone self taught, your English is pretty darn good.
ryannumber1gamer
09/08/2012, 02:28 pm
I think it's Lilly & Ben's fault. Lilly has been on edge since Episode 2 and started getting angry over every little thing. Ben was the person who betrayed the group and it was him who got Lilly to go completely crazy. . I am still pissed off at Lilly for killing Carley.
I'd like to point out that for someone self taught, your English is pretty darn good.
Thanks a lot. but when we have something that Called internet we actually can't say self taught is a hard work. because internet is a very good teacher
zenstrata
09/08/2012, 03:00 pm
Episode 3 tried too hard. It made me stop caring about any of the characters. At this point I will not let myself become invested in the storyline of any of the remaining characters. I may finish the game sometime. But the loss of so many made me lose most of my interest in future games in the series.
I pretty much figured it was Ben as soon as I thought it over. My theory was he got caught by the bandits and they threatened him sometime, and so he caved and promised to get them stuff to leave him alone. That was my theory anyway. Turned out to be spot-on.
Oh, and I still did not care about duck. Even with the dick grayson snippets in there. When he went to the fence to show me the chalk. I just left him hanging there and did some other things for a while. Funny thing, I got an achievement for 'leaving duck hanging'. Was entertaining.
But back to the way this episode made me feel. Telltale killed off way too many characters at once. As I said, I have lost interest in the storyline. The party is gone. They won't be replaced by the new people because I will not become emotionally invested in any of them from here on out. Not even lee or clementine. The group dynamic built up among the earlier episodes is gone and can not be recovered.
Zargus
09/08/2012, 04:47 pm
Episode 3 tried too hard. It made me stop caring about any of the characters. At this point I will not let myself become invested in the storyline of any of the remaining characters. I may finish the game sometime. But the loss of so many made me lose most of my interest in future games in the series.
I pretty much figured it was Ben as soon as I thought it over. My theory was he got caught by the bandits and they threatened him sometime, and so he caved and promised to get them stuff to leave him alone. That was my theory anyway. Turned out to be spot-on.
Oh, and I still did not care about duck. Even with the dick grayson snippets in there. When he went to the fence to show me the chalk. I just left him hanging there and did some other things for a while. Funny thing, I got an achievement for 'leaving duck hanging'. Was entertaining.
But back to the way this episode made me feel. Telltale killed off way too many characters at once. As I said, I have lost interest in the storyline. The party is gone. They won't be replaced by the new people because I will not become emotionally invested in any of them from here on out. Not even lee or clementine. The group dynamic built up among the earlier episodes is gone and can not be recovered.
Welcome to the harsh reality of The Walking Dead. Enjoy your stay :p
But seriously if you thought that something big was never going to happen and a few characters where not going to be killed off then you where just fooling yourself. Seems like the only ones who are safe at the moment are Lee and Clem. Everyone else is expendable. With that in mind you can still bond with them knowing that sooner or later they will die.
KCohere
09/08/2012, 04:55 pm
Its definitely his fault Lilly went over the deep end. He killed the only person in the world she cared about. Ah, I dont like Kenny anymore anyway. He's been a dick to me to many times, lol.
Oh, and I still did not care about duck. Even with the dick grayson snippets in there. When he went to the fence to show me the chalk. I just left him hanging there and did some other things for a while. Funny thing, I got an achievement for 'leaving duck hanging'. Was entertaining.
I liked Duck. I thought the whole Batman and Robin thing was cute. I feel like so many people are hating on the kid, someone has to give him a break.
sublime90
09/08/2012, 05:48 pm
its bens damn fault because he was dealing with the bandits! Lily had the right idea just the wrong person in mind. thats why i left her ass to die with the walkers and ben is next in line if i get the chance
QuarterPounderVlad
09/09/2012, 08:22 am
Ben's fault.
End of topic...
YamiRaziel
09/09/2012, 09:37 am
Ben's fault.
End of topic...
Okay, boss!
To me it was always Kenny's fault. His family was always the only important thing and it slowly corrupted and destroyed everything the rest of us were trying to build.
RafaelBrasileiro
09/09/2012, 10:11 am
to me, the blame was of Ben and Lilly.
Wrighty
09/09/2012, 10:14 am
So everything wrong Lilly has done can be linked back to one hard choice Kenny made in episode 2? One that may have saved everyone's lives? Seems legit.
I admit it must have been traumatising but that doesn't make what she did any less terrible or Kennys fault. We all have to take responsibility for what we do.
Rock114
09/09/2012, 11:21 am
I think it was pretty much a series of failures on everyone in the group that led to it breaking up. The constant arguing, lack of cooperation and such. Already posted that somewhere, won't be doing it again because I don't want carpel tunnel any time soon.
YamiRaziel
09/09/2012, 01:42 pm
Well as Rock114 is everybody's fault to some extent. In my opinion however, Lilly was trying to hold the group together while Kenny was slowly destroying it every time he put his family before everybody else.
RafaelBrasileiro
09/09/2012, 01:57 pm
Ben has fault of being a fucking coward!
Kenny and Lee (In My game) has fault of killing (I think he was already dead) and Larry,making Lilly so angry!
Lilly is guilty of killing in cold blood Carley (An innocent), no having evidence that she was stealing! T-T
Itīs what l think.
Personally I think it was everyone's fault. If you really hate the people you've been with, you should leave and none of them did until they had to. Lee & Clem should have left with Glenn in Episode 1 because the rest of the group was just nucking futs!
Rock114
09/09/2012, 09:16 pm
Go with glenn, and meet Rick Grimes? And stay with his group through the comics? Rather shoot Clem then myself immedately after if we had to do that.
Go with glenn, and meet Rick Grimes? And stay with his group through the comics? Rather shoot Clem then myself immediately after if we had to do that.
Nah, we wouldn't have had to stay with Rick's group. I just mean we should have left the psycho group we were with when Glenn left.
QuarterPounderVlad
09/10/2012, 05:41 am
Okay, boss!
To me it was always Kenny's fault. His family was always the only important thing and it slowly corrupted and destroyed everything the rest of us were trying to build.
Yep, Kenny cares for his family.
Wouldn't you? Remember, Ben made a SECRET Arrangement with the so called bandits, Which led to the motor inn being overrun. Ben then got Carley killed because of the secret arrangement. Lilly was pissed, And shot Carley BECAUSE Ben did what he did. Kenny's family was wrecked because ...
Guess time!
...Got it? Because BEN Made an arrangement with the bandits, Which got the motor inn overrun, Which got the walkers to come, Which got Duck to be bitten and which got Katjaa murder herself.
Long story short, Ben caused it all because of his secret arrangement, Kenny was only caring for his family because he saw the group was a wreck already.
He did what he needed to do, And Ben Ruined it for him, If I could, I'd tell Kenny that Ben did it all.
YamiRaziel
09/10/2012, 05:57 am
Yep, Kenny cares for his family.
Wouldn't you? Remember, Ben made a SECRET Arrangement with the so called bandits, Which led to the motor inn being overrun. Ben then got Carley killed because of the secret arrangement. Lilly was pissed, And shot Carley BECAUSE Ben did what he did. Kenny's family was wrecked because ...
Guess time!
...Got it? Because BEN Made an arrangement with the bandits, Which got the motor inn overrun, Which got the walkers to come, Which got Duck to be bitten and which got Katjaa murder herself.
Long story short, Ben caused it all because of his secret arrangement, Kenny was only caring for his family because he saw the group was a wreck already.
He did what he needed to do, And Ben Ruined it for him, If I could, I'd tell Kenny that Ben did it all.
Yeah, I got it the first time, do not worry.
To me it was Kenny the one who slowly plagued our group. I don't know if you've seen the TV show or the comic books but do you know what is the difference between Kenny and Rick?
Rick tries to help and save everybody, while caring for his family and Kenny cares ONLY about his family.
Don't worry I blame Ben as well. He threw the final stone that destroyed our group.
QuarterPounderVlad
09/10/2012, 06:08 am
Yeah, I got it the first time, do not worry.
To me it was Kenny the one who slowly plagued our group. I don't know if you've seen the TV show or the comic books but do you know what is the difference between Kenny and Rick?
Rick tries to help and save everybody, while caring for his family and Kenny cares ONLY about his family.
Don't worry I blame Ben as well. He threw the final stone that destroyed our group.
Indeed I have watched the tv Series and read the comics, And yes there's a difference between Rick and Kenny.
Though I like Kenny more than TV Rick. I like comic Rick more than Kenny...
Oh and TV Rick has a disaster kid, Who I'd like to see get eaten by walkers.
Kenny rules, And he didn't DESTROY The group like BEN Did.
TV Rick = Newbie to Walkers.
Comic Rick = Walker Pro.
Kenny = In the middle. After all he had to shoot his kid (or you could shoot him) He saw his wife die, He saw his friends die in a really short time. He knows what walkers can do.
Wrighty
09/10/2012, 08:28 am
Well as Rock114 is everybody's fault to some extent. In my opinion however, Lilly was trying to hold the group together while Kenny was slowly destroying it every time he put his family before everybody else.
How does Kenny tear the group apart from killing Larry, which I think Kenny was right to do. I'd say Lilly tore it apart when she killed Carely and through the paranoia. If Lilly hadn't scared Ben so much, Ben would probably have admitted what he did and Carely wouldnt have died. If it wasn't for Lilly, Carely would still be alive and Ben would have confessed.
You're main argument against Kenny is "He cares more about his family than everyone else". I think that's natural to be honest. And remember I've already adressed the whole "Left my Lee to die" in that other thread.
If kenny didn't killed Larry so then Lilly never shot Carly in cold blood, is it really hard to understand ?
If kenny didn't killed Larry in front of her eyes so then Lilly never scared of leaving the motel
Should I say more ?
Rock114
09/10/2012, 09:38 am
If Kenny didn't smash Larry, everyone in that room could have died. It's possible he WAS dead, and was about to reanimate. I believe it was a chance we couldn't take, and while I'm sorry Lilly had to see it, it was the only way to ensure that the rest of the group had a chance at getting off that farm alive.
Wrighty
09/10/2012, 09:42 am
If Kenny didn't smash Larry, everyone in that room could have died. It's possible he WAS dead, and was about to reanimate. I believe it was a chance we couldn't take, and while I'm sorry Lilly had to see it, it was the only way to ensure that the rest of the group had a chance at getting off that farm alive.
This guy gets it. :)
DreadMagus
09/10/2012, 09:43 am
He had a heart attack, without medical attention he was deader than fried chicken.
And he'd have made a very very big zombie.....
thestalkinghead
09/10/2012, 09:48 am
If Kenny didn't smash Larry, everyone in that room could have died. It's possible he WAS dead, and was about to reanimate. I believe it was a chance we couldn't take, and while I'm sorry Lilly had to see it, it was the only way to ensure that the rest of the group had a chance at getting off that farm alive.
this ^^ again
If Kenny didn't smash Larry, everyone in that room could have died. It's possible he WAS dead, and was about to reanimate. I believe it was a chance we couldn't take, and while I'm sorry Lilly had to see it, it was the only way to ensure that the rest of the group had a chance at getting off that farm alive.
What are you talking about ? when I helped Larry he opened his eyes!!
So he was still alive :(
thestalkinghead
09/10/2012, 10:14 am
What are you talking about ? when I helped Larry he opened his eyes!!
So he was still alive :(
or undead
DreadMagus
09/10/2012, 10:16 am
or undead
No kidding.
Besides, alive or not, he was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off.
thestalkinghead
09/10/2012, 10:18 am
No kidding.
Besides, alive or not, he was a ticking time bomb waiting to go off.
yeah, lilly should have shot him as he was a danger to the group :cool:
RafaelBrasileiro
09/10/2012, 10:18 am
or undead
just to add: a very large undead
DreadMagus
09/10/2012, 10:20 am
yeah, lilly should have shot him as he was a danger to the group :cool:
LOL!!!
Nailed it! :D
Kiel555
09/10/2012, 10:24 am
Episode 3 tried too hard. It made me stop caring about any of the characters. At this point I will not let myself become invested in the storyline of any of the remaining characters. I may finish the game sometime. But the loss of so many made me lose most of my interest in future games in the series.
I pretty much figured it was Ben as soon as I thought it over. My theory was he got caught by the bandits and they threatened him sometime, and so he caved and promised to get them stuff to leave him alone. That was my theory anyway. Turned out to be spot-on.
Oh, and I still did not care about duck. Even with the dick grayson snippets in there. When he went to the fence to show me the chalk. I just left him hanging there and did some other things for a while. Funny thing, I got an achievement for 'leaving duck hanging'. Was entertaining.
But back to the way this episode made me feel. Telltale killed off way too many characters at once. As I said, I have lost interest in the storyline. The party is gone. They won't be replaced by the new people because I will not become emotionally invested in any of them from here on out. Not even lee or clementine. The group dynamic built up among the earlier episodes is gone and can not be recovered.
I'm doing things differently in my game (trying to rebuild the group with Christa, Omid and Charles - we're a crew/team) but I think you may have the desired effect going into e4. I think you're supposed to not care about anyone or even what happens next going into e4 as new characters are introduced and die off....partially due or completely due to your lack of concern for them.
If what you are saying is "I'm now detatched", and others have said similar things as well, then maybe the next "theme" of the game will be to find yourself in a situation where you don't care about anyone and no cares about you either. Then add some walkers just to keep the tempo up.
Just a theory....
I agree it was all Kenny's fault with an assist from Ben. Kenny's fatal flaw is that he never extended the group concept beyond his immediate family. If other people are just there and you are not going to do what they say and they are not going to do what you say then it's time to part ways. Kenny should have packed up his group and been on his way. Instead, he undermined Lilly's leadership of the group, I did my fair share of this too initially, and remained a loose cannon the whole time. Him and Ben destroyed the group.
Rock114
09/10/2012, 10:51 am
The group could have held together if they left the motel after Ep 2. Yeah Kenny didn't do his part to keep us together, but there was no reason to stay in Macon after Larry died. The pharmacy was picked clean and bandits were attacking. Nobody in the group would need constant medication now, since Larry is gone. Staying in Macon was foolhardy with the lack of supplies and abundance of pissed off people with guns shooting at the group. If they had left after the dairy, there wouldn't have been a deal with the bandits, Duck wouldn't have been bitten, and Carley/Doug would still be alive.
Everyone messed up. Not just Kenny, or Ben, or Lilly, everyone contributed to the fracturing of the group.
She's afraid to leave the motel because Kenny blow up her father's brain in front of her eyes.
Would you traveling with someone that blow up your father's brain ?
Where's your logic ?
thestalkinghead
09/10/2012, 11:45 am
She's afraid to leave the motel because Kenny blow up her father's brain in front of her eyes.
Would you traveling with someone that blow up your father's brain ?
Where's your logic ?
by that logic, why is she living with him?
Rock114
09/10/2012, 12:11 pm
The logic is that there were far more reasons to leave Macon after the encounter with the St. Johns than to stay. Bandits roamed the woods and took shots at the motel. The town was bursting at the seams with walkers, and there were virtually no supplies left. Staying meant almost certain death, and while leaving is not a guaranteed foolproof plan, there's still a chance of survival out there. A chance of finding supplies, perhaps even another safe haven. Macon was bust. I believe Kenny put it best when he said it was "Hell on Earth".
YamiRaziel
09/10/2012, 04:28 pm
You can't know what's out there and being caught up on the road in the middle of the winter... that won't end well.
P.S Any idea how much time has passed since ep. 1?
I just started reading The Walking Dead: Rise of the Governor and the book starts 72 hours after dead started coming back. It's referred that it is late September.
thestalkinghead
09/10/2012, 04:32 pm
You can't know what's out there and being caught up on the road in the middle of the winter... that won't end well.
P.S Any idea how much time has passed since ep. 1?
I just started reading The Walking Dead: Rise of the Governor and the book starts 72 hours after dead started coming back. It's referred that it is late September.
i think it's about 3 months and a week
YamiRaziel
09/10/2012, 04:35 pm
i think it's about 3 months and a week
I think it's more like 2 months. If it is indeed 3 months and a week that would make the events of ep. 3 happen in January and that's already winter. I'm not American so I'm not sure when is snow usually expected to fall :D
My prediction is that ep.3 should be around early December and that's why Lilly says they can last through the winter with those supplies.
thestalkinghead
09/10/2012, 04:37 pm
I think it's more like 2 months. If it is indeed 3 months and a week that would make the events of ep. 3 happen in January and that's already winter. I'm not American so I'm not sure when is snow usually expected to fall :D
My prediction is that ep.3 should be around early December and that's why Lilly says they can last through the winter with those supplies.
but doesn't it say 3 months later at the beginning of episode 2 and then kenny says in episode 3 that they got the food from the car a week ago
YamiRaziel
09/10/2012, 04:43 pm
but doesn't it say 3 months later at the beginning of episode 2 and then kenny says in episode 3 that they got the food from the car a week ago
I'm not sure, that's why I ask :) Well the zombie outbreak is supposed to have started late September, but maybe they got it a bit wrong dunno.
thestalkinghead
09/10/2012, 04:45 pm
I'm not sure, that's why I ask :) Well the zombie outbreak is supposed to have started late September, but maybe they got it a bit wrong dunno.
i just checked and it does say 3 months later, i cant be bothered to find the kenny part but its at least 3 months :)
YamiRaziel
09/10/2012, 05:12 pm
So it has to be around Christmas!
thestalkinghead
09/10/2012, 05:15 pm
So it has to be around Christmas!
it must be, maybe Clementine will get her parents as a Christmas present :)
Rock114
09/10/2012, 05:24 pm
Yeah, it says "THREE MONTHS LATER" at the start of episode 2, and Kenny states that you take the supplies out of the truck one week before episode 3 starts. It's the part when Lee is pulling the winch cable toward the trailer at the very start. So in the game, it's been Three months and a week since the pharmacy was overrun at the end of Episode 1.
Well, where would Rick's group be at this time? I'm fairly certain that Shane is already dead, right? If we had a general estimation of where Rick and Co. are in relation to Lee and Clem we could make an educated guess.
DreadMagus
09/10/2012, 05:30 pm
Ah, I had been wondering how we'd been measuring the elapsed time.
YamiRaziel
09/10/2012, 05:39 pm
I don't think Shane is dead yet. My memory is a bit foggy but as far as I can remember there was snow when Shane was killed.
I'm not sure what calendar are Telltale using but I think it's about time it starts snowing!
Maybe ep 4 will be a snowy episode. Episode 3 however feels like autumn... which is a bit unusual for December!
We already know that the wallpapers of the episodes are misleading (Duck being happy and alive at the train). Still the trailer for ep.4 didn't look like December as well.
Rock114
09/10/2012, 05:54 pm
Well, Carley was bundled up more than she was last episode. I guess it could be getting colder, but it seems like we'd be given a more obvious sign than one character with an extra layer on.
Cyreen
09/10/2012, 06:31 pm
What are you talking about ? when I helped Larry he opened his eyes!!
His mouth moves, not his eyes.
So it has to be around Christmas!
How do you figure? I agree, it's three months between 1 and 2 and another week between 2 and 3. Is September when the ZA started in the comics or is that just when Grimes woke up? From the landscape around Macon it's definitely autumn, it looks like October.
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